The problem is, in the Open Source world, when it gets broader and more used, the tines on the fork tend to spread out wider, and the cacaphony of Babylon grows louder and more confused.
In other words, it doesn't scale well because there's no center.
Well, if you limited your sample of windows apps to a little totalitarian subset of the Apps made using a particular toolset, that would still likely represent a larger selection of software than the entirety of Apple applications.
When you live in a tiny little world of limited choices, things are more consistent. Nothing new in that.
Note that it doesn't run under linux, since then they'd be forced to give away the source.
Back when I ran Linux at home (three or four years ago now) I used Motif as my Window Manager. That was before OpenMotif, so I purchased a proprietary non-open-source Motif (SWiM Motif, I believe it was called). There was nothing at all preventing me from running it on Linux, even though it most assuredly wasn't Open Source. If I remember correctly, I paid a fairly substancial amount of money ($100?) for it.
Clearly, the issue is, we are going to hell in a handbasket because people are getting in trouble for distributing copyrighted material illegally.
Furthermore, we all log onto slashdot so we can rant and ramble and rationalize why it shouldn't be illegal, etc. etc. and come up with excuses and reasons why it isn't illegal anyway and shouldn't be wrong, etc. etc. etc.
*yawn*
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Wearing a bad pair of slacks and shirt that don't match are also an 'initiation of force' then, I take it.
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Now, hold on just a minute.
There were political economists before Marx. There have been political economists since Marx. Marx did not found the discipline of 'political economy' nor was he even necessarily the most profound political economist of his time.
All economics is NOT 'just refining Marx's work' any more than it's the direct descendant of any of the other 19th century political economists. That's as ridiculous as saying that all economics is just refining Henry George's work.
Sheesh. Let's knock Karl off the pedestal already, okay?
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The Founding Fathers weren't terrorists.
Check your history book before getting back to the discussion.
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Strong environmental laws do NOT fit within a capitalist system.
Perhaps a well educated public who know which companies pollute and which don't.... but not an artificial force (goverment) which contrives up rules to interfere in the marketplace.
Seems like common sense that one would prefer drinkable water, rivers that don't burn and air that makes the sky look blue instead of brown.
I challange you to go out and try to find anyone (except maybe a crank contrarian or two) who is in favor of undrinkable water, rivers that burn, and brown skies.
You and your 'movment' traffic in caricatures.
Just try to get real once in awhile. The cigar chomping capitalist is just a picture on the cards in the Monopoly game.
Besides which, the store which has the loud obvious tone that goes off when you enter the store isn't the one where you should worry about your privacy....
Heck, that good old diode array was LOADS easier than toggling in the bootstrap code on the row of switches on the front panel. Joe Everyman needed LOTS of diodes!
The TRS-80 is STILL revolutionary. How else can you bring a laptop computer to a LUG meeting that has a word processor in it's ROM coded in Assembly Language by Bill Gates himself if you don't have a TRS-80 Model 100???
I am not sure what you mean when you say 'the original one.'
They've had those 100 in one and 10 in one kits for decades and decades. I had a 10 in one back in about 1968. I don't think they had one as big as a 100 in one back then.
Are you going to make the ludicrous claim that the Napster business plan expected the business to thrive based on people exchanging home recordings and legal MP3 files??
Lots of carpenters use red trucks to deliver tools and supplies to building sites. That doesn't mean that they're the only people who should be informed if there's a fire on the site.
The PS2 already has Linux for it, and the only way to get it is to buy the Linux kit from Sony, which doubles the price.
That was a rather smart move by Sony. Produce a Linux kit for their system. Price it high enough to keep it expensive, but reduce that 'itch' to such a degree that the critical mass of people interested in producing a free Linux port will never materialize.
Apple Computer did the same thing with MkLinux, which over the long term resulted in there being effectively no legacy Macintosh support in the main linux source tarball. They kept hackers from crawling around in their proprietary stuff and reverse engineering all of it.
Doubtless you just amble into the mall and buy whatever happy-shiney peripherals are on the endcap.
For people like us who do a portion of our hardware ourselves, it's just a pain in the ass to not have serial ports available to connect them. 'Solutions' like USB are made to keep the entry cost of developing external hardware up in the 4-6 figures.
Fuck you, Bill Gates, and fuck your 'ban legacy ports from machines that want the Win-logo.'
or residents who don't want to be cold-called by for-profit companies.
Sorry, crap like that just makes me angry. Why should not-for-profit companies and organizations get an exemption? It strikes me as favoritism and the kind of cronyism politicians excel at.
"But... but... I am calling on behalf of the children..."
When I saw AOLandfill in the title, I thought it might be a much cooler topic. A lot of used Sparc Ultra machines are showing up on eBay lately retired from use by AOL, and I thought maybe there was a good dumpster dive to go on.
Microsoft's MAC address range is probably owned by them, not by an OEM they used. MAC addresses, while hardware-bound, are not the sort of thing embedded by a chip vendor, they're more likely to be plugged in by someone further up the line (i.e. the board manufacturer.) And the blocks aren't even necessarily owned by a manufacturer. A few years ago somebody on Usenet who had gotten a big block of MAC addresses for some project he was doing handed out some of the extras. I voluneteered to take a block, so I 'own' a block of 256 MAC addresses that are uniquely mine. It's sort of handy, as I buy and mess around with old Sparc hardware. Often it arrives with a dead NVRAM which means I have to assign it a MAC address of some sort.
I wasn't aware that any major PC-maker wasn't offering a bios menu to fuck around in, for the inverterate Micro$oft hater to remain mired in, refusing to boot further into 'that dastardly thing!'
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The problem is, in the Open Source world, when it gets broader and more used, the tines on the fork tend to spread out wider, and the cacaphony of Babylon grows louder and more confused.
In other words, it doesn't scale well because there's no center.
Well, if you limited your sample of windows apps to a little totalitarian subset of the Apps made using a particular toolset, that would still likely represent a larger selection of software than the entirety of Apple applications.
When you live in a tiny little world of limited choices, things are more consistent. Nothing new in that.
Note that it doesn't run under linux, since then they'd be forced to give away the source.
Back when I ran Linux at home (three or four years ago now) I used Motif as my Window Manager. That was before OpenMotif, so I purchased a proprietary non-open-source Motif (SWiM Motif, I believe it was called). There was nothing at all preventing me from running it on Linux, even though it most assuredly wasn't Open Source. If I remember correctly, I paid a fairly substancial amount of money ($100?) for it.
Yep.
Reality hit, just like slamming into a brick wall driving drunk in daddy's Mustang.
The joy ride is over.
Doesn't mean life won't go on, though.
That wasn't his point.
If some crack dealer sells you a phoney rock and the two of you get busted during the deal, you're in trouble, even though it has no cocaine in it.
another greedy bastard has found a way to make ridiculous money off of someone elses work
You mean, like the people who (erroneously) thought they could get away with that and invested in Napster?
Clearly, the issue is, we are going to hell in a handbasket because people are getting in trouble for distributing copyrighted material illegally.
Furthermore, we all log onto slashdot so we can rant and ramble and rationalize why it shouldn't be illegal, etc. etc. and come up with excuses and reasons why it isn't illegal anyway and shouldn't be wrong, etc. etc. etc.
*yawn*
Wearing a bad pair of slacks and shirt that don't match are also an 'initiation of force' then, I take it.
Now, hold on just a minute.
There were political economists before Marx. There have been political economists since Marx. Marx did not found the discipline of 'political economy' nor was he even necessarily the most profound political economist of his time.
All economics is NOT 'just refining Marx's work' any more than it's the direct descendant of any of the other 19th century political economists. That's as ridiculous as saying that all economics is just refining Henry George's work.
Sheesh. Let's knock Karl off the pedestal already, okay?
The Founding Fathers weren't terrorists.
Check your history book before getting back to the discussion.
Thanks.
Strong environmental laws do NOT fit within a capitalist system.
Perhaps a well educated public who know which companies pollute and which don't.... but not an artificial force (goverment) which contrives up rules to interfere in the marketplace.
I challange you to go out and try to find anyone (except maybe a crank contrarian or two) who is in favor of undrinkable water, rivers that burn, and brown skies.
You and your 'movment' traffic in caricatures.
Just try to get real once in awhile. The cigar chomping capitalist is just a picture on the cards in the Monopoly game.
Besides which, the store which has the loud obvious tone that goes off when you enter the store isn't the one where you should worry about your privacy....
Heck, that good old diode array was LOADS easier than toggling in the bootstrap code on the row of switches on the front panel. Joe Everyman needed LOTS of diodes!
Er, or something...
The TRS-80 is STILL revolutionary. How else can you bring a laptop computer to a LUG meeting that has a word processor in it's ROM coded in Assembly Language by Bill Gates himself if you don't have a TRS-80 Model 100???
I am not sure what you mean when you say 'the original one.'
They've had those 100 in one and 10 in one kits for decades and decades. I had a 10 in one back in about 1968. I don't think they had one as big as a 100 in one back then.
I liked building the AM radio broadcaster.
Well, gee. That's a whole lot of fancy words.
Are you going to make the ludicrous claim that the Napster business plan expected the business to thrive based on people exchanging home recordings and legal MP3 files??
Lots of carpenters use red trucks to deliver tools and supplies to building sites. That doesn't mean that they're the only people who should be informed if there's a fire on the site.
The PS2 already has Linux for it, and the only way to get it is to buy the Linux kit from Sony, which doubles the price.
That was a rather smart move by Sony. Produce a Linux kit for their system. Price it high enough to keep it expensive, but reduce that 'itch' to such a degree that the critical mass of people interested in producing a free Linux port will never materialize.
Apple Computer did the same thing with MkLinux, which over the long term resulted in there being effectively no legacy Macintosh support in the main linux source tarball. They kept hackers from crawling around in their proprietary stuff and reverse engineering all of it.
Doubtless you just amble into the mall and buy whatever happy-shiney peripherals are on the endcap.
For people like us who do a portion of our hardware ourselves, it's just a pain in the ass to not have serial ports available to connect them. 'Solutions' like USB are made to keep the entry cost of developing external hardware up in the 4-6 figures.
Fuck you, Bill Gates, and fuck your 'ban legacy ports from machines that want the Win-logo.'
For just a moment there I thought you were suggesting he put up a big poster depicting 'Weeping Jesus on the cross.'
Scared the hell out of me.
or residents who don't want to be cold-called by for-profit companies.
Sorry, crap like that just makes me angry. Why should not-for-profit companies and organizations get an exemption? It strikes me as favoritism and the kind of cronyism politicians excel at.
"But... but... I am calling on behalf of the children..."
FOAD.
When I saw AOLandfill in the title, I thought it might be a much cooler topic. A lot of used Sparc Ultra machines are showing up on eBay lately retired from use by AOL, and I thought maybe there was a good dumpster dive to go on.
Microsoft's MAC address range is probably owned by them, not by an OEM they used. MAC addresses, while hardware-bound, are not the sort of thing embedded by a chip vendor, they're more likely to be plugged in by someone further up the line (i.e. the board manufacturer.) And the blocks aren't even necessarily owned by a manufacturer. A few years ago somebody on Usenet who had gotten a big block of MAC addresses for some project he was doing handed out some of the extras. I voluneteered to take a block, so I 'own' a block of 256 MAC addresses that are uniquely mine. It's sort of handy, as I buy and mess around with old Sparc hardware. Often it arrives with a dead NVRAM which means I have to assign it a MAC address of some sort.
I wasn't aware that any major PC-maker wasn't offering a bios menu to fuck around in, for the inverterate Micro$oft hater to remain mired in, refusing to boot further into 'that dastardly thing!'