Companies already get paid for approving products, and they have for many decades. It's call the 'Underwriter's Laboratory' and it's the main agency for testing and approval of electrical safety of appliances and electrical devices in the United States.
There hasn't been a rash of electrocutions due to this private agency having the oversight.
I for one would love for there to be private oversight agencies certifying medical products and protecting consumers, similar to how the Underwriters Laboratory (a private agency) operates.
The inefficiency and corruption of government-run operations actually ends up harming us in the long run.
Doesn't it bother anybody that the FDA always starts rambling about quack patent medicine from the 19th century as their justification for existing?? It's a racket! Speaking as someone who worked for years in the medical device industry, there are people at every layer loving things the way they are. Medical devices with less complexity and no more reliability than a Sony Walkman sell for ten times the price.
Gutenberg's second book, after the Bible, was erotic stories.
Do you have historical evidence to back that up?
It sounds like an UL, similar to the fabricated tale about 'The Vatican has a huge library of porn,' which is a fabricated UL started by Kinsey (who DID have a huge library of porn).
Elcomsoft also has a fine line of spammer's tools.
They make products for the management of lists of email addresses, and also a fine product that is used to 'harvest' email addresses from web forums like this very site. Note that until recently that mailutilities.com link was prominent in the product lineup on the main Elcomsoft web pages.
They've been termed 'the spammer's mercenary' more than a few times for selling tools that the typical clueless spammer would never be able to come up with on their own.
The people who say 'kill the fucking spammer, die, die' should be working to destroy Elcomsoft, a company of hackers who work for 'the other side' on the spamming issue.
Fishing through their latest main website incarnation, I notice they've 'cleaned up' the site and there's no link to their email harvesting products directly from the elcomsoft.com web page, as there was within the last month. They've put up a firewall between their 'we're just cool hackers with password cracking tools' and their 'we help the spammers get to your mailbox' product lines. They're learning.
I had a Z80. CP/M to be specific. The whole 64K memory map was full of nice fast DRAM.
I still have a tube or two of Z80 chips here and plan to fiddle with them someday. A Z80, a block of SRAM, an EPROM, and some 8255 and 8251 chips can be a lot of fun.
There are tons of Usenet newsgroups where there are still good discussions going on. All the sci.electronics groups are good, there are places like the computer folkore group. Even some specialized non-tech groups are still interesting. It's easy to identify and filter out the trolls and the people there to fight for the sake of fighting.
I guess I must not hang out in the space where the spamming occurs.
801.11 won't necessarily become regulated. But as usage scales up, it'll become unmanagable. Guess what? The xxAA organizations can give away FREE equipment that uses those bands. *Everybody* would love to have digital remote controls for all sorts of things. Kids can get 'clappers' in their cereal box.
Why would 'the big boys' have to buy laws to prevent it? Wireless internet won't scale to a mass market. If and when it becomes as popular as CB Radio was in it's heyday it will destroy itself as a viable medium. Remember, that 2.4 GHz band is designed to be shared between many uses. Wireless ethernet seems nice now only because it's an elite thing.
It's quite possible to believe that God created the universe that evolution is one part of.
In fact, 'creationists' would build a stronger basis for their faith if they'd just acknowledge this truth. Clinging to their literal interpretation of scripture is vain, even blasphemous.
I think I'll invest my money in the company that provides office supplies to the legal firm that will hammer whomever attempts to provide the circumvention software based on the crack.
They're gonna be needing paper clips and legal pads.
If I record it using 24/96 AD converters, I wouldn't want to degrade it by converting to CD audio in the first place. It's just another good use for the huge recordable media that recordable DVD gives us.
I think a high resolution converson like this, and the finally available large writable media is going to make it worthwhile to start digitizing vinyl. CD degrades the vinyl recording.
titanium: {1} ls -l/usr/bin/vi -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 258000 Nov 16 2000/usr/bin/vi titanium: {2}
258 Kbytes.
'Nuff said.
Editorial: I like using plain vanilla vi, because I know no matter where I find myself (even on the OS/2 boxes I've been forced to endure) there's a vi or vi clone that has all the features I will need.
Re:They're running out of book topics
on
Vi IMproved -- Vim
·
· Score: 1
There's a pretty good tutorial on Ed in the Unix User's Nanual, Supplimentary Documents.
Section USD:12. It's written by Brian Kernighan.
The Abstract begins:
"Almost all text input on the UNIX operating system is done with the text-editor ed."
I think it's a pre-vi tutorial.
Re:They're running out of book topics
on
Vi IMproved -- Vim
·
· Score: 1
If there are sod all quality Rammstein videos now, when there isn't any DRM (ie it's just that people can't be assed digitizing them), how many quality Rammstein vids do you think there would be in a DRM world where digitizing them and uploading them may result in the loss of your box?
Actually, this defeats the arguement that almost everybody in this discussion is trying to make, but:
When DRM has been implemented, there will be a profit incentive for bands like Rammstein to distribute their videos. They won't be free, but they will exist and be available.
Result: considerably more Rammstein videos than are currently available.
but we can no longer rent tapes and buy CDs - content producers don't make them anymore.
Wow. Now maybe you'll get around to making some of your own content to run on all that obsolescent hardware. Instead of just shuffling around images of the content other people have produced.
Naw, it'll never happen. You'll never figure it out. The Microphone jack on your Tape Deck and the video in jack on your VCR are still virgin.
So really, it's just another software-centric thing. A documentation thing so that software people can write drivers.
I thought maybe it would be much more than that, i.e. schematic diagrams, PAL equations, FPGA defintions. But it seems these days like the world is controlled by people terrified of the soldering iron. Oh well.
Slashdot Mirror
I think I learned this in a history class, but it could just as easily something I saw on Buffy.
That alone is a frightening comment. People believe historical references they see on TeeVee shows.
Companies already get paid for approving products, and they have for many decades. It's call the 'Underwriter's Laboratory' and it's the main agency for testing and approval of electrical safety of appliances and electrical devices in the United States.
There hasn't been a rash of electrocutions due to this private agency having the oversight.
Your ignorance is showing, dude.
I for one would love for there to be private oversight agencies certifying medical products and protecting consumers, similar to how the Underwriters Laboratory (a private agency) operates.
The inefficiency and corruption of government-run operations actually ends up harming us in the long run.
Doesn't it bother anybody that the FDA always starts rambling about quack patent medicine from the 19th century as their justification for existing?? It's a racket! Speaking as someone who worked for years in the medical device industry, there are people at every layer loving things the way they are. Medical devices with less complexity and no more reliability than a Sony Walkman sell for ten times the price.
Gutenberg's second book, after the Bible, was erotic stories.
Do you have historical evidence to back that up?
It sounds like an UL, similar to the fabricated tale about 'The Vatican has a huge library of porn,' which is a fabricated UL started by Kinsey (who DID have a huge library of porn).
Elcomsoft also has a fine line of spammer's tools.
They make products for the management of lists of email addresses, and also a fine product that is used to 'harvest' email addresses from web forums like this very site. Note that until recently that mailutilities.com link was prominent in the product lineup on the main Elcomsoft web pages.
They've been termed 'the spammer's mercenary' more than a few times for selling tools that the typical clueless spammer would never be able to come up with on their own.
The people who say 'kill the fucking spammer, die, die' should be working to destroy Elcomsoft, a company of hackers who work for 'the other side' on the spamming issue.
Fishing through their latest main website incarnation, I notice they've 'cleaned up' the site and there's no link to their email harvesting products directly from the elcomsoft.com web page, as there was within the last month. They've put up a firewall between their 'we're just cool hackers with password cracking tools' and their 'we help the spammers get to your mailbox' product lines. They're learning.
300 baud. Because trawling the Compuserv groups was only $6 an hour (half price!) if you connected through the 300 baud modem pool.
I had a Z80. CP/M to be specific. The whole 64K memory map was full of nice fast DRAM.
I still have a tube or two of Z80 chips here and plan to fiddle with them someday. A Z80, a block of SRAM, an EPROM, and some 8255 and 8251 chips can be a lot of fun.
There are tons of Usenet newsgroups where there are still good discussions going on. All the sci.electronics groups are good, there are places like the computer folkore group. Even some specialized non-tech groups are still interesting. It's easy to identify and filter out the trolls and the people there to fight for the sake of fighting.
I guess I must not hang out in the space where the spamming occurs.
801.11 won't necessarily become regulated. But as usage scales up, it'll become unmanagable. Guess what? The xxAA organizations can give away FREE equipment that uses those bands. *Everybody* would love to have digital remote controls for all sorts of things. Kids can get 'clappers' in their cereal box.
Why would 'the big boys' have to buy laws to prevent it? Wireless internet won't scale to a mass market. If and when it becomes as popular as CB Radio was in it's heyday it will destroy itself as a viable medium. Remember, that 2.4 GHz band is designed to be shared between many uses. Wireless ethernet seems nice now only because it's an elite thing.
It's quite possible to believe that God created the universe that evolution is one part of.
In fact, 'creationists' would build a stronger basis for their faith if they'd just acknowledge this truth. Clinging to their literal interpretation of scripture is vain, even blasphemous.
That depends.
There are high end turntables that use an optical stylus. Nothing physically touches the vinyl.
I think I'll invest my money in the company that provides office supplies to the legal firm that will hammer whomever attempts to provide the circumvention software based on the crack.
They're gonna be needing paper clips and legal pads.
If I record it using 24/96 AD converters, I wouldn't want to degrade it by converting to CD audio in the first place. It's just another good use for the huge recordable media that recordable DVD gives us.
I think a high resolution converson like this, and the finally available large writable media is going to make it worthwhile to start digitizing vinyl. CD degrades the vinyl recording.
Geez. Seven megs. What a space-pig.
/usr/bin/vi /usr/bin/vi
titanium: {1} ls -l
-r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 258000 Nov 16 2000
titanium: {2}
258 Kbytes.
'Nuff said.
Editorial:
I like using plain vanilla vi, because I know no matter where I find myself (even on the OS/2 boxes I've been forced to endure) there's a vi or vi clone that has all the features I will need.
There's a pretty good tutorial on Ed in the Unix User's Nanual, Supplimentary Documents.
Section USD:12. It's written by Brian Kernighan.
The Abstract begins:
"Almost all text input on the UNIX operating system is done with the text-editor ed."
I think it's a pre-vi tutorial.
On NetBSD it's even briefer:
/usr/bin/true /bin/sh
titanium: {1} cat
#!
exit 0
Can you get meaningful results out of an SN74S181 ALU if you provide bogus inputs?
That's one of the cool things about TTL chips.
There's really no need to do range checking on inputs, as there's no illegal combination of inputs.
If there are sod all quality Rammstein videos now, when there isn't any DRM (ie it's just that people can't be assed digitizing them), how many quality Rammstein vids do you think there would be in a DRM world where digitizing them and uploading them may result in the loss of your box?
Actually, this defeats the arguement that almost everybody in this discussion is trying to make, but:
When DRM has been implemented, there will be a profit incentive for bands like Rammstein to distribute their videos. They won't be free, but they will exist and be available.
Result: considerably more Rammstein videos than are currently available.
but we can no longer rent tapes and buy CDs - content producers don't make them anymore.
Wow. Now maybe you'll get around to making some of your own content to run on all that obsolescent hardware. Instead of just shuffling around images of the content other people have produced.
Naw, it'll never happen. You'll never figure it out. The Microphone jack on your Tape Deck and the video in jack on your VCR are still virgin.
Wow. I am on Anonymous Coward's foes list.
For understanding what Makefiles and incremental builds are, no less.
You know, there's even an O'reilly book on make. It has the picture of a potto on it.
Why don't you political zealots just bug off and go somewhere else.
Aren't there already enough rant-sites? Why aren't you on Free Republic or Indymedia? They're both on topic for your sort of discussions.
Geez.
Get a clue, dude.
You keep trying to force him to change the subject of his post. It's clear you are avoiding his point.
Yes. 'People are scum.'
That's why a vanguard elite is needed to show them the folly in their ways and lead them to a victorious revolution.
And clearly you're that vanguard elite. You've got it all figured out, eh?
FOAD.
So really, it's just another software-centric thing. A documentation thing so that software people can write drivers.
I thought maybe it would be much more than that, i.e. schematic diagrams, PAL equations, FPGA defintions. But it seems these days like the world is controlled by people terrified of the soldering iron. Oh well.