I'm starting to wonder if Linux should be open to the average user to contribute, or if perhaps it should be restricted to a core group of companies and Linus who can afford lawyers to vet the code.
It's not _that_ open. Try getting a patch without review to the vanilla tree..:) You can send your patches to the mailing list and after review of many it may or may not be accepted.
And besides, isn't IBM one of these "core companies"?
"... the Europeans are also studying whether Microsoft must disclose more information to competitors so they can develop software that interacts with Microsoft's server software, the central brains of computer networks. Microsoft worries that competitors such as Sun Microsystems Inc. would use that information to clone its servers."
You probably read the article as you know about the NDA thing. But then in almost the next line the article says that OpenBSD guys have tried to use the Linux source as guide. To no avail.
Yeah! Let's nail his ass!.. Oh wait, perhaps he's just the tech guy working for the company which registered the domain "raketti.net", Kuopion Puhelin. It's a telecom and net operator after all.
Yeah, it's pretty much fine. But then again if the source is not available it makes 3rd party backdoors etc. pretty much harder to create, don't you think?
Of course this doesn't apply to the backdoors which are inserted by the creator of the closed source app.
Why wait for DVD-player's to get features you need?
We're building a DVD player with my friend which can do DVD, VCD, DIVX, OGG, MP3.. actually everything xine can. And it has 132X64 graphical lcd, custom joystick for buttons, remote control, hard drive, possibly net access for cddb and streaming video and audio.
Most of you probably say "nay, this bloke's just another troll or something", well go check out pics
[disclaimer] I know none of this by experience or such. [/disclaimer]
That's what I meant with the Ximian example. They went and got investors and money but yet Gnome isn't what Mac OSX is. It's not that easy with a large project like KDE or Gnome.
I just find it pretty weird that people are saying what other people should or shouldn't do. I don't want to start a company or get investors. If I had an urge to start a company or if KDE's shortcomings disturbed me I just might.
First of all, I'm not KDE developer but merely a user. I am a programmer though. Anyway, KDE has everything I need (except some Nokia stuff, nevermind).
Back to the point
It's quite not the same thing to develop something and then get the money back from individuals paying some $49->$99 than getting some $150M in front. Look at Ximian. They've done a lot of good to Gnome, but at least I think that Gnome still sucks compared to KDE (I haven't tried G2 though). And why's that? Because Ximian can't put all the money it's got (which is nothing compared to Apple or MS) to improving Gnome since they have to make money too. They do stuff like connector which makes them money but does not help people trying to install a Gnome application.
It's not about acting like anything, it's the basic math. So I repeat: give me the money _in front_ and I create the user experience.
Then again, I could do some KDE programming and have actually thought of doing so, but not full time because I'm pretty happy doing what I do now. That's why I don't want to start a company. Why don't you do it?
And about the installation stuff: LSB is coming to the rescue (AFAIK) with it's filesystem and object file standards.
I just have to answer to this although it's more or less a troll..
[quote] By contrast, look at Mac OSX. Apple decided to make thier next release run on a unix core, and voila, for the first time in 20 odd years, a damn fine user environment for Unix! Methinks it was about time someone gave a shit about the users instead of endlessly insulting them for not being 3l337 enough to use what they were given. [/quote]
Give me the money Apple used to create Mac OSX and I guarantee I can make KDE (and probably GNOME also with the same money) to have all the features and "user perspective" as OSX has. I think that Apple has paid every single developer more than KDE project has received money (paid development, hardware etc) total.
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And how is marketing your product without even mentioning competition FUD? No fear, no uncertainty and no doubt there. Sheesh.
The new communicator (9500) has Wi-Fi, and I think (didn't actually look) the 9500 is pretty much as big as this one.
Try http://www.redhat.com/apps/commerce/developer/sta
Wrong. KDE libs are LGPL, only apps are GPL.
It's not _that_ open. Try getting a patch without review to the vanilla tree..
And besides, isn't IBM one of these "core companies"?
"... the Europeans are also studying whether Microsoft must disclose more information to competitors so they can develop software that interacts with Microsoft's server software, the central brains of computer networks. Microsoft worries that competitors such as Sun Microsystems Inc. would use that information to clone its servers."
Huh? Sun would clone MS servers? Come on.
Well..
You probably read the article as you know about the NDA thing. But then in almost the next line the article says that OpenBSD guys have tried to use the Linux source as guide. To no avail.
Yeah! Let's nail his ass! ..
Oh wait, perhaps he's just the tech guy working for the company which registered the domain "raketti.net", Kuopion Puhelin. It's a telecom and net operator after all.
Yeah, it's pretty much fine. But then again if the source is not available it makes 3rd party backdoors etc. pretty much harder to create, don't you think?
Of course this doesn't apply to the backdoors which are inserted by the creator of the closed source app.
It's there. You pick "Graphics Driver", "GeForce and TNT" and "FreeBSD", press "Go" and you get to the FreeBSD driver page
If you still can't find it click here for a direct link to the driver
You can do if you want to. It's Linux after all.. ;)
Why wait for DVD-player's to get features you need? We're building a DVD player with my friend which can do DVD, VCD, DIVX, OGG, MP3.. actually everything xine can. And it has 132X64 graphical lcd, custom joystick for buttons, remote control, hard drive, possibly net access for cddb and streaming video and audio. Most of you probably say "nay, this bloke's just another troll or something", well go check out pics
[disclaimer]
I know none of this by experience or such.
[/disclaimer]
That's what I meant with the Ximian example. They went and got investors and money but yet Gnome isn't what Mac OSX is. It's not that easy with a large project like KDE or Gnome.
I just find it pretty weird that people are saying what other people should or shouldn't do. I don't want to start a company or get investors. If I had an urge to start a company or if KDE's shortcomings disturbed me I just might.
First of all, I'm not KDE developer but merely a user. I am a programmer though. Anyway, KDE has everything I need (except some Nokia stuff, nevermind).
Back to the point
It's quite not the same thing to develop something and then get the money back from individuals paying some $49->$99 than getting some $150M in front. Look at Ximian. They've done a lot of good to Gnome, but at least I think that Gnome still sucks compared to KDE (I haven't tried G2 though). And why's that? Because Ximian can't put all the money it's got (which is nothing compared to Apple or MS) to improving Gnome since they have to make money too. They do stuff like connector which makes them money but does not help people trying to install a Gnome application.
It's not about acting like anything, it's the basic math.
So I repeat: give me the money _in front_ and I create the user experience.
Then again, I could do some KDE programming and have actually thought of doing so, but not full time because I'm pretty happy doing what I do now. That's why I don't want to start a company. Why don't you do it?
And about the installation stuff: LSB is coming to the rescue (AFAIK) with it's filesystem and object file standards.
I just have to answer to this although it's more or less a troll..
[quote]
By contrast, look at Mac OSX. Apple decided to make thier next release run on a unix core, and voila, for the first time in 20 odd years, a damn fine user environment for Unix! Methinks it was about time someone gave a shit about the users instead of endlessly insulting them for not being 3l337 enough to use what they were given.
[/quote]
Give me the money Apple used to create Mac OSX and I guarantee I can make KDE (and probably GNOME also with the same money) to have all the features and "user perspective" as OSX has. I think that Apple has paid every single developer more than KDE project has received money (paid development, hardware etc) total.
Perhaps Apple's execs have decided that with Mozilla and OpenOffice.org's mac version (out soon :) they don't have to be in the leash of MS any more.
I certainly hope they want to break free.