Wasn't it Feynman who said something along the lines of "You only discover America once"?
To me there's always a new wave to surf. I had a friend waxing bitter in about 1996 about how he'd missed the golden age of garage innovation. That there was never going to be another Apple. There hasn't been, but there was a Google.
The 10,000 hours number seems weird... I tell beginner musicians that there is a certain amount of pain and boredom before it starts to get fun. I usually randomly pull a number between 10 and 25 hrs out of the air.
So 4 hours a day on the piano is 2,500 days. Round up to 7 years. Sounds about right.
Putting hookers back on the streets is good why? This will just push the pros into the personals, though if Craigslist starts charging for personals as well they'll make a lot more money.
Ignore the posts telling you to 'get a life' etc... Why not hook up all the gadgets? It's once every 4 years. If you like politics this is the world cup, only people will really live and die because of the outcome. Info overload can be fun.
I'll have PBS on in the background while I get some work done. Unless there's gunfire in Ohio in which case I'll rush out to buy emergency supplies (read: bottle of Jameson)
Anthony Weiner is on the committee and even if you don't live in the 9th you know he's running for Mayor or Governor in the next couple of years. He's gonna want the science / internet vote.
Also, from what little I can tell, he's not an idiot.
Look, let's just let it rest. If you guys can hang this all on the Bushies and put them in handcuffs I'll genuinely enjoy the turn of events and it'll be great TV. Frankly I think it's a dead end and if you want to investigate look at the flight school and the FBI agent pulled off the case (I don't find the stand down suspicious, just incompetent). I don't think you'll find a smoking gun but I could be wrong.
Not at all. I claim no false credentials - which is very easy to do on the internet - but I'm not at all scientifically illiterate. And I really like certain sciences and don't like seeing them abused. I can, however, actually do a lot of the maths. So why won't S. Jones PhD publish his paper where other PhDs can look at it? It's called peer review. If memory serves, the one Prof who did look at it in private called it flawed.
There is no reasonable discussion with you truthies. It's like your feelings are hurt that people won't sign up. And like the IDers and paper moon types when one of your arguments is disproved (and in many cases ridiculed) you move the goal posts and or change the subject.
As far as I can tell this analysis assumes that the maximum heat attained is the burning fuel which is not necessarily the case. Specifically the physical collapse and compression could create pockets of higher heat.
Not at all dude. Point out any actual science on any page. I'll happily admit I missed it and investigate. But please not pyrocastic (sp?) flow which sounds cool but isn't relevant.
You see, I live in Manhattan and have been over this a lot for years now. There is sketchy stuff around 9/11 but any investigation is only confused by bad pseudo science.
Except read the 'engineers' credentials. Can you say paper thin? And these so called 'engineers' (hey, it's the internet, anyone can be whoever - I'm a famous comic book artist!!) don't present any scientific analysis - they just say: 'I've decided...' and or descend into political analysis. Pyrocastic flow ?!? - give it a rest already.
Rapid onset - give me a break. Pyroclastic clouds - are they a band? Tons of molten metal? Some guy with mutton chops singing 'hunka hunka burning steel'? Stephen Jones - PhD: 'I've written a paper proving everything but I have to keep it secret.'
It's either meaningless psuedo science with some big words, some guy saw / heard something weird or some demolition 'professional' saw some video tape and decided. All the same babble you characters keep repeating to each other.
But, as pointed out, it's like arguing intelligent design: You've already decided. If somebody has a scientific analysis, with like numbers and stuff, that supports your claims they would have probably posted it somewhere by now. They don't.
Obviously I don't have mod points but a Dawkins reference is worth a shout out.
The weird thing is the sheer number of engineers in the world. Some kid in Iran or Russia or China could make a real name for himself/herself in academia by crunching the numbers and finding weirdness.
There's nothing on the website that hasn't been refuted by people with more knowledge then me (see, for instance, the comments section of this post). At least as far as I can tell from a glance. Sorry.
>Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
Whose last media bubble was cold fusion. Who has 'proven' the controlled demolition in a paper he wrote but won't let anyone see.
You guys just can't accept that it was a bunch of underfunded misguided wanna be holy warriors who weren't white. It had to be big omnipotent evil white men. Except these guys couldn't dummy WMD or manage a press conference during Katrina (assuming the finger is pointed that way). And you're being pumped up by people who don't want you looking at the real stuff around the WTC collapse or Iraq war.
I've been over the evidence endlessly because of location - I live a few miles from ground zero. My problem is the arrogant childish denial of science. Skyscrapers are (usually) very well built. Commercial air travel is going on as we speak, cell phones let me call China from the roof of a nightclub without a second thought. This is because when you put numbers in, the same numbers come out. It's not the same as arguing politics or culture. Mathematics is a stern and absolute task master, there's no opinion involved (you PhD math guys let that pass in this case, OK?)
I have no problem with the rest of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff, I like crime fiction but haven't seen a smoking gun, but I find the obsession with proving that it was the 'big bad CIA / Bushies / Jews / Whoever' kind of racist. It's offensive that the idiot left can't accept that it was a bunch of misguided (to me) wanna be holy warriors trying to make a point on a budget. But no, it has to have been omnipotent all powerful evil white men.
> The science is clearly on the side of those who wish to expose the truth about 9/11.
Except you can't make science up as you go along. Yeah, yeah, I know, someone saw an old man with mutton chops singing 'hunka hunka burning steel... ' while dancing on the pile. Somebody heard something weird, too. Read their stuff. Makes less sense than the official version.
Bullshit idiot. I've never met or read anyone who has more maths than me and makes any sense of the controlled demolition arguments. I'd ascribe any level of evil to anyone and despite your trolling all Americans don't always trust this or any other administration, domestic or foreign.
There is some sketchy stuff around 9/11 (see: the flight school, the FBI agent). None of these issues involve reinventing physics and chemistry to suit your cartoon view of the world.
Arguing with truthers is like arguing with creationists. They've already decided, it's a matter of faith. The weird thing is having looked at the structural collapse of the towers, if the official version was controlled demolition and the conspiracy theory was burning jet fuel, from a straight scientific standpoint I'd be inclined to believe the conspiracy. Physically, building catches fire, steel expands, breaks seals makes a lot more sense then Rutger Hauer and why not Whoopy spend a few days planting charges. However, like IDers, truthers decided they can make up various physical laws and ignore others as they go along all the while shouting "science!" (cue: T Dolby). And they get continuously pumped up by right wing trolls who figure quite accurately that they make the left look like a bunch of hairy clowns shouting 'JET FUEL BURNS AT 800 DEGREES MAN' at a fireman's funeral.
The real cover up is that the buildings weren't code to begin with, or rather David Rockefeller etc bent building codes to get them built. And Rudy had all the fuel stored in 7 against the advice of all the professionals. And that the Saucer People, in league with the Bush Administration, used a gravity ray to make the buildings fall faster then gravity and straight down.
Actually if you work some UFOs in I'll sign up. How cool would that be?
IMHO the iPod et al spells doom for the CD. As soon as 'the kids' can transfer music phone 2 phone there goes the music biz. However, as burning and archive mechanism, why not, but no room there for the 'labels'
Somewhat off topic, or in an overlapping corner of the topic -
I don't run Linux anymore, only so many hours in the day, but I do a lot of Actionscript widget coding for $$$. Flash has some memory leaks that range from annoying to deal breaker. I honestly like AS 3 as I don't know Java well enough to write one man dev team internet apps and AS lets me do that. but... If Adobe doesn't solve garbage collection and soon AJAX or (new buzzword) starts looking a lot better for low end desktop / web application development.
Hey I'll sign up to an SVG / Javascript solution if one presents itself but I've been saying that for a while.
Cadmium Telluride is also a direct bandgap semiconductor which yields more watts per kg than the indirect bandgap semiconductor materials. Solar cells become less efficient at converting solar energy into electricity as their temperatures increase but Cadmium Telluride is less susceptible to cell temperature increases than traditional semiconductors generating relatively more electricity under high ambient temperatures. It's also more efficent at converting low and diffuse light to electricity more efficiently than conventional cells under cloudy weather and dawn and dusk conditions.
They also have a recycling plan in place for the lifetime of the product - somewhat at odds with the traditional landfill methods of yore. But, no retail. They don't sell to individuals and only deal with utility companies. Finance trivia: Their stock has grown spectacularly since the IPO and there is a large investment from the Walton family (insert TV joke here)
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Wasn't it Feynman who said something along the lines of "You only discover America once"?
To me there's always a new wave to surf. I had a friend waxing bitter in about 1996 about how he'd missed the golden age of garage innovation. That there was never going to be another Apple. There hasn't been, but there was a Google.
The 10,000 hours number seems weird ... I tell beginner musicians that there is a certain amount of pain and boredom before it starts to get fun. I usually randomly pull a number between 10 and 25 hrs out of the air.
So 4 hours a day on the piano is 2,500 days. Round up to 7 years. Sounds about right.
Putting hookers back on the streets is good why?
This will just push the pros into the personals, though if Craigslist starts charging for personals as well they'll make a lot more money.
Ignore the posts telling you to 'get a life' etc ...
Why not hook up all the gadgets? It's once every 4 years. If you like politics this is the world cup, only people will really live and die because of the outcome. Info overload can be fun.
I'll have PBS on in the background while I get some work done. Unless there's gunfire in Ohio in which case I'll rush out to buy emergency supplies (read: bottle of Jameson)
Who forces you to consume this news? It's the internet for $%#@ sake, google some tech stuff.
Redundant but why not:
If you can't find the file, there's a user problem here.
Anthony Weiner is on the committee and even if you don't live in the 9th you know he's running for Mayor or Governor in the next couple of years. He's gonna want the science / internet vote.
Also, from what little I can tell, he's not an idiot.
Drop him an email
Remember Yahoo's big ad campaign to become a verb. No one Yahoos, everyone Googles
My parents wedding band was a mobius strip. I always thought that was cool.
Nonsense. On a couple of different levels.
Look, let's just let it rest. If you guys can hang this all on the Bushies and put them in handcuffs I'll genuinely enjoy the turn of events and it'll be great TV. Frankly I think it's a dead end and if you want to investigate look at the flight school and the FBI agent pulled off the case (I don't find the stand down suspicious, just incompetent). I don't think you'll find a smoking gun but I could be wrong.
NRN this thread is closed
Not at all. I claim no false credentials - which is very easy to do on the internet - but I'm not at all scientifically illiterate. And I really like certain sciences and don't like seeing them abused. I can, however, actually do a lot of the maths. So why won't S. Jones PhD publish his paper where other PhDs can look at it? It's called peer review. If memory serves, the one Prof who did look at it in private called it flawed.
There is no reasonable discussion with you truthies. It's like your feelings are hurt that people won't sign up. And like the IDers and paper moon types when one of your arguments is disproved (and in many cases ridiculed) you move the goal posts and or change the subject.
As far as I can tell this is science fiction.
> Despite the substantial evidence for the use of explosives at the WTC
Wishing doesn't make it so.
Interesting but proves nothing.
As far as I can tell this analysis assumes that the maximum heat attained is the burning fuel which is not necessarily the case. Specifically the physical collapse and compression could create pockets of higher heat.
Not at all dude. Point out any actual science on any page. I'll happily admit I missed it and investigate.
But please not pyrocastic (sp?) flow which sounds cool but isn't relevant.
You see, I live in Manhattan and have been over this a lot for years now. There is sketchy stuff around 9/11 but any investigation is only confused by bad pseudo science.
So, basically, put up or shut up.
Except read the 'engineers' credentials. Can you say paper thin? And these so called 'engineers' (hey, it's the internet, anyone can be whoever - I'm a famous comic book artist!!) don't present any scientific analysis - they just say: 'I've decided ...' and or descend into political analysis. Pyrocastic flow ?!? - give it a rest already.
There's no science on that site:
Rapid onset - give me a break.
Pyroclastic clouds - are they a band?
Tons of molten metal? Some guy with mutton chops singing 'hunka hunka burning steel'?
Stephen Jones - PhD: 'I've written a paper proving everything but I have to keep it secret.'
It's either meaningless psuedo science with some big words, some guy saw / heard something weird or some demolition 'professional' saw some video tape and decided. All the same babble you characters keep repeating to each other.
But, as pointed out, it's like arguing intelligent design: You've already decided.
If somebody has a scientific analysis, with like numbers and stuff, that supports your claims they would have probably posted it somewhere by now. They don't.
Obviously I don't have mod points but a Dawkins reference is worth a shout out.
The weird thing is the sheer number of engineers in the world. Some kid in Iran or Russia or China could make a real name for himself/herself in academia by crunching the numbers and finding weirdness.
Hey a wikipedia link. Deep.
There's nothing on the website that hasn't been refuted by people with more knowledge then me (see, for instance, the comments section of this post). At least as far as I can tell from a glance. Sorry.
Nothing new there. My personal favorite:
>Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
Whose last media bubble was cold fusion. Who has 'proven' the controlled demolition in a paper he wrote but won't let anyone see.
You guys just can't accept that it was a bunch of underfunded misguided wanna be holy warriors who weren't white. It had to be big omnipotent evil white men. Except these guys couldn't dummy WMD or manage a press conference during Katrina (assuming the finger is pointed that way). And you're being pumped up by people who don't want you looking at the real stuff around the WTC collapse or Iraq war.
I've been over the evidence endlessly because of location - I live a few miles from ground zero. My problem is the arrogant childish denial of science. Skyscrapers are (usually) very well built. Commercial air travel is going on as we speak, cell phones let me call China from the roof of a nightclub without a second thought. This is because when you put numbers in, the same numbers come out. It's not the same as arguing politics or culture. Mathematics is a stern and absolute task master, there's no opinion involved (you PhD math guys let that pass in this case, OK?)
I have no problem with the rest of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff, I like crime fiction but haven't seen a smoking gun, but I find the obsession with proving that it was the 'big bad CIA / Bushies / Jews / Whoever' kind of racist. It's offensive that the idiot left can't accept that it was a bunch of misguided (to me) wanna be holy warriors trying to make a point on a budget. But no, it has to have been omnipotent all powerful evil white men.
> The science is clearly on the side of those who wish to expose the truth about 9/11.
Except you can't make science up as you go along. Yeah, yeah, I know, someone saw an old man with mutton chops singing 'hunka hunka burning steel ... ' while dancing on the pile. Somebody heard something weird, too. Read their stuff. Makes less sense than the official version.
> You're doing as you're told, no more, no less.
Bullshit idiot. I've never met or read anyone who has more maths than me and makes any sense of the controlled demolition arguments.
I'd ascribe any level of evil to anyone and despite your trolling all Americans don't always trust this or any other administration, domestic or foreign.
There is some sketchy stuff around 9/11 (see: the flight school, the FBI agent). None of these issues involve reinventing physics and chemistry to suit your cartoon view of the world.
Arguing with truthers is like arguing with creationists. They've already decided, it's a matter of faith. The weird thing is having looked at the structural collapse of the towers, if the official version was controlled demolition and the conspiracy theory was burning jet fuel, from a straight scientific standpoint I'd be inclined to believe the conspiracy. Physically, building catches fire, steel expands, breaks seals makes a lot more sense then Rutger Hauer and why not Whoopy spend a few days planting charges. However, like IDers, truthers decided they can make up various physical laws and ignore others as they go along all the while shouting "science!" (cue: T Dolby). And they get continuously pumped up by right wing trolls who figure quite accurately that they make the left look like a bunch of hairy clowns shouting 'JET FUEL BURNS AT 800 DEGREES MAN' at a fireman's funeral.
The real cover up is that the buildings weren't code to begin with, or rather David Rockefeller etc bent building codes to get them built. And Rudy had all the fuel stored in 7 against the advice of all the professionals. And that the Saucer People, in league with the Bush Administration, used a gravity ray to make the buildings fall faster then gravity and straight down.
Actually if you work some UFOs in I'll sign up. How cool would that be?
IMHO the iPod et al spells doom for the CD. As soon as 'the kids' can transfer music phone 2 phone there goes the music biz.
However, as burning and archive mechanism, why not, but no room there for the 'labels'
Somewhat off topic, or in an overlapping corner of the topic -
I don't run Linux anymore, only so many hours in the day, but I do a lot of Actionscript widget coding for $$$. Flash has some memory leaks that range from annoying to deal breaker. I honestly like AS 3 as I don't know Java well enough to write one man dev team internet apps and AS lets me do that. but ... If Adobe doesn't solve garbage collection and soon AJAX or (new buzzword) starts looking a lot better for low end desktop / web application development.
Hey I'll sign up to an SVG / Javascript solution if one presents itself but I've been saying that for a while.
Cadmium Telluride is also a direct bandgap semiconductor which yields more watts per kg than the indirect bandgap semiconductor materials. Solar cells become less efficient at converting solar energy into electricity as their temperatures increase but Cadmium Telluride is less susceptible to cell temperature increases than traditional semiconductors generating relatively more electricity under high ambient temperatures. It's also more efficent at converting low and diffuse light to electricity more efficiently than conventional cells under cloudy weather and dawn and dusk conditions.
They also have a recycling plan in place for the lifetime of the product - somewhat at odds with the traditional landfill methods of yore. But, no retail. They don't sell to individuals and only deal with utility companies. Finance trivia: Their stock has grown spectacularly since the IPO and there is a large investment from the Walton family (insert TV joke here)