"Based on logical reasoning; reasonable: a legitimate solution to the problem."
You are correct, but you're assuming that people can't mis-apply the word, in order to "legitimise" their point of view.
It is just a word, a tool, and so can be used for many purposes; to reveal truth, to decieve, to give legitimacy, to undermine it, etc. etc.
After all, if it just meant "in accordance with the law" or "lawful".... which bunch of reprobates makes the law?!!!!!!
As such, it's an entirely subjective word, another way of saying "this is right."
Well, it appears that none of the isps you mention offer what you said they did.
Pipex's only non-cut-off unlimited access is £99 a month, a wee bit more than my 15.99 AOL account.
NTL has a 2 hour cut-off AND makes you sign a 12 month contract [AOL's is 1 month.]
Demon doesn't even have unmetered, it's all pay-per-minute!
How do you know the first intention for sharpening that bit of flint into a sharp edged tool, was due to the desire to invent a better killing tool? You just weren't there.
The spear, for sure (what else?)
The gun, like the spear, is clear cut... so to speak.
The axe, though?
It's concievable that a group killed an animal with rocks, and then used a "knife" to cut the hide more easily, and this then was taken up for killing.
That's why I said, simply, "to cut."
We just don't know the exact intentions behind the technological invention, so we can't say it was designed to kill.
I don't use their crummy chatrooms, or their "channels," I minimize AOL and use my browser of choice, and never look at AOL's content. Never wanted to, never needed to; I don't find it very appealing.
I use AOL because it's the only dial-up isp, that I know of [and dial-up's all I can get where I live at the moment,] that doesn't cut you off after 2 hours continual use.
If a competitor offered a cheaper way to get that, here in the UK [where AOL has 2 million users and the only profit AOL's made in the recent past, and has the lowest complaints of all ISPs] then, if it was a significant reduction in £, I'd up and leave.
For me, at least, it's not the cybering, it's the ability to use the 'net uninterrupted.
Maybe that's why they're a such a success in the UK?
Blair et al, would be very happy if the US Govt. would spy on us here in the UK, so that the UK Govt. doesn't have to get its own hands dirty and risk getting caught breaching the EU Human Rights Act.
I believe a certain US spy station at Menwith Hill, currently performs this same function.
Speaking of which, when's the next "Semtex, IRA, Sarin, Prime-minister, kill the fucker, tourette-telephone-marathon" planned? Anyone know?
Terminator = Good movie, good script, ideas, direction, energy, humour. Nice.
T2 = He's back, but this time he's nice, and has a shiny man to be the baddy.
T3 = He's back, and [yawn] he's nice again, and this time, it's a lass chasing him. Wow. That's truly lazy.
And for a film all about special effects [considering the premise, it has no choice] how come the scene in the trailer, where she jumps onto the car, it's so obvious she's on wires, when her trajectory lifts right at the last second?
I think this film may be a bit phew-wiff.
That's just such an ignorant and arrogant attitude to take.
Personally, it was the first time I'd seen the term used. Naturally, I'd want to know what it meant before I purchased [and already had a pretty clear idea.]
It is, however, pretty close-minded to not realise that it's a marketing con, designed to convey the impression that the camera is better than it is; no mention of the crucial information: the actual number of megapixels, was included in the advert, and this was a deliberate act.
Please take your head out of your penguin arse.:)
Just recently I saw ads in a newspaper for [I think] Curry's [the electrical retailer here in the UK] selling digital cameras.
Naturally one important figure when buying one, is the resolution; how many mega-pixels has it got and at what price?
Currys/Dixons are now selling their digital cameras saying "3.1 megapixel equivalent" and the like!
I resolved if I ever go into a Curry's to make a big fuss, call for the manager and LOUDLY say things about defrauding customers.
Fuck knows what they're exactly talking about, but they're definitely trying to make out lesser cameras to be more.
Simple attempt at duping less savvy camera buyers.
Hmmmm. Stagecoach [bus company from Scotland] went into small areas and undercut small local coach operators, by initially making losses, and driving the competition out of business, leaving consumers with no choice. They amassed huge profits, became dominant, using their now competition-less environments to fund expansion into other areas, and spending millions on campaigning against equal-rights for gay people.
Always, my arse.
"It's worth remembering that all that `eat popcorn/drink coke` subliminal stuff was a hoax. It's not true - it doesn't work."
You should watch Derren Brown's "Mind Control" programmes; he feeds these people in a shopping mall subliminal messages over the tannoy, then speaks to them, distorting his meanings and slipping his message into their minds, and then gets them all [pretty much] to raise their hands in the air, in unison, on his cue.
It can work.
People sharing their music tastes via p2p, from the comfort of their own home, for no profit, does not a "music piracy circle" make.
IMO, P2P copyright infringement, is just like copying a cd for your mate, only bigger; after all the internet brings people together.
These lawyers are not going after people for doing damage to record sales, if that's what the music industry was concerned about, they'd drop their prices, they're being sic'd on them to preserve the high-profit cartel.
And when artists get hurt, it's mostly their own fault for siding with the devil. IMO.
In the uk, you don't need building permission for buildings below a certain height, I believe.
Also, this is very similar to a thing for underground housing designed and built, I believe, by one of the former members of the Prog Rock band "Yes." [it might be a different one.]
These come in pre-formed fibre-glass shells, and can be linked together, and look "way cool" as they say.
"The people that block popup ads are the same people who would *NEVER* click on a popup ad and purchase something, so I'm sorry, but I can't really see what their problem is."
Advertising works on the principle [so to speak] of temptation. So if you can't see the ad, you can't be tempted...ooh...shiny! [click]
Some advertising campaigns do actually work, however, pop-up ads are an abomination.
"I can think of one occupation that's even more important than that -- Motherhood."
Important to whom? ~ Everything's relative [pardon the pun.]
Humans are currently destroying the planet's resourses, and living increasingly resourse-hungry lives. I'm sure we'd all benefit from less people being born; us humans, pretty much every animal on the planet...
I don't know where you got that definition, but in English Law at least it's the the unlawful acquisition to deprive someone of their property , permanently; thus if you had every intention of returning it, despite that person's temporary deprivation, it's still not theft.
"The problem is much like the much-loved "reduced warantee" on hard-drives where all the manufacturers conspire to reduce warantees at the same time, the same could be true for the broadband industry."
But we live in a Capitalist Society... Competition will save us,... Conspire??? Ermm.... I don't understand... [/naivity]
Well I don't know if the original poter was talking about e-mail spam only, or including web site advertisments also, but I see it as a huge problem that you should have to pay for advertisements to be served to you, naturally, unwanted.
I see the perfect solution: have McDonald's outlets in The Sims, AND let us have Sims that crazily run into them, and open up their Uzi on the diners before firebombing the place. >8oD
That's the only way I'd ever buy a McCraphead's sponsored "product."
Slashdot Mirror
Is it just me, or are the terms "World Wide Web" and "Internet" gaining a certain sinister meaning?
:oS
Eek.
"Based on logical reasoning; reasonable: a legitimate solution to the problem."
You are correct, but you're assuming that people can't mis-apply the word, in order to "legitimise" their point of view.
It is just a word, a tool, and so can be used for many purposes; to reveal truth, to decieve, to give legitimacy, to undermine it, etc. etc.
After all, if it just meant "in accordance with the law" or "lawful".... which bunch of reprobates makes the law?!!!!!!
As such, it's an entirely subjective word, another way of saying "this is right."
Saying it don't make it so.
Well, it appears that none of the isps you mention offer what you said they did.
Pipex's only non-cut-off unlimited access is £99 a month, a wee bit more than my 15.99 AOL account.
NTL has a 2 hour cut-off AND makes you sign a 12 month contract [AOL's is 1 month.]
Demon doesn't even have unmetered, it's all pay-per-minute!
Thanks for wasting my time, m8.
Well, I don't know about Pipex or Demon or NTL, I'll check them out, but BT definitely cuts you off after 2 hours.
:)
But if you're right, thanks.
"Legitimate."
I love that word; it's so...
subjective.
Cut what?
Whatever they wanted.
How do you know the first intention for sharpening that bit of flint into a sharp edged tool, was due to the desire to invent a better killing tool? You just weren't there.
The spear, for sure (what else?) The gun, like the spear, is clear cut... so to speak.
The axe, though?
It's concievable that a group killed an animal with rocks, and then used a "knife" to cut the hide more easily, and this then was taken up for killing.
That's why I said, simply, "to cut."
We just don't know the exact intentions behind the technological invention, so we can't say it was designed to kill.
Ok... confession: AOL user here.
I don't use their crummy chatrooms, or their "channels," I minimize AOL and use my browser of choice, and never look at AOL's content. Never wanted to, never needed to; I don't find it very appealing.
I use AOL because it's the only dial-up isp, that I know of [and dial-up's all I can get where I live at the moment,] that doesn't cut you off after 2 hours continual use.
If a competitor offered a cheaper way to get that, here in the UK [where AOL has 2 million users and the only profit AOL's made in the recent past, and has the lowest complaints of all ISPs] then, if it was a significant reduction in £, I'd up and leave.
For me, at least, it's not the cybering, it's the ability to use the 'net uninterrupted.
Maybe that's why they're a such a success in the UK?
"The original intent of the knife was to kill as well..."
Nope... the original intent of the knife was to cut.
Blair et al, would be very happy if the US Govt. would spy on us here in the UK, so that the UK Govt. doesn't have to get its own hands dirty and risk getting caught breaching the EU Human Rights Act.
I believe a certain US spy station at Menwith Hill, currently performs this same function.
Speaking of which, when's the next "Semtex, IRA, Sarin, Prime-minister, kill the fucker, tourette-telephone-marathon" planned? Anyone know?
Terminator = Good movie, good script, ideas, direction, energy, humour. Nice.
T2 = He's back, but this time he's nice, and has a shiny man to be the baddy.
T3 = He's back, and [yawn] he's nice again, and this time, it's a lass chasing him. Wow. That's truly lazy.
And for a film all about special effects [considering the premise, it has no choice] how come the scene in the trailer, where she jumps onto the car, it's so obvious she's on wires, when her trajectory lifts right at the last second?
I think this film may be a bit phew-wiff.
Next question?
:)
Ok....
Why not?
That's just such an ignorant and arrogant attitude to take. :)
Personally, it was the first time I'd seen the term used. Naturally, I'd want to know what it meant before I purchased [and already had a pretty clear idea.]
It is, however, pretty close-minded to not realise that it's a marketing con, designed to convey the impression that the camera is better than it is; no mention of the crucial information: the actual number of megapixels, was included in the advert, and this was a deliberate act.
Please take your head out of your penguin arse.
Just recently I saw ads in a newspaper for [I think] Curry's [the electrical retailer here in the UK] selling digital cameras.
Naturally one important figure when buying one, is the resolution; how many mega-pixels has it got and at what price?
Currys/Dixons are now selling their digital cameras saying "3.1 megapixel equivalent" and the like!
I resolved if I ever go into a Curry's to make a big fuss, call for the manager and LOUDLY say things about defrauding customers.
Fuck knows what they're exactly talking about, but they're definitely trying to make out lesser cameras to be more.
Simple attempt at duping less savvy camera buyers.
...sweet, poetic justice.
Our actions are boomerangs, dude.
"Competition == Good for consumers
ALWAYS."
Hmmmm. Stagecoach [bus company from Scotland] went into small areas and undercut small local coach operators, by initially making losses, and driving the competition out of business, leaving consumers with no choice.
They amassed huge profits, became dominant, using their now competition-less environments to fund expansion into other areas, and spending millions on campaigning against equal-rights for gay people.
Always, my arse.
"It's worth remembering that all that `eat popcorn/drink coke` subliminal stuff was a hoax. It's not true - it doesn't work."
You should watch Derren Brown's "Mind Control" programmes; he feeds these people in a shopping mall subliminal messages over the tannoy, then speaks to them, distorting his meanings and slipping his message into their minds, and then gets them all [pretty much] to raise their hands in the air, in unison, on his cue.
It can work.
"Broadband is to wife, as dialup is to girlfriend.
Think about it."
Man, you're more right than you know.
6 months after signing up to broadband, your ISP starts imposing data caps.
Errr... "music piracy circles"???
People sharing their music tastes via p2p, from the comfort of their own home, for no profit, does not a "music piracy circle" make.
IMO, P2P copyright infringement, is just like copying a cd for your mate, only bigger; after all the internet brings people together.
These lawyers are not going after people for doing damage to record sales, if that's what the music industry was concerned about, they'd drop their prices, they're being sic'd on them to preserve the high-profit cartel.
And when artists get hurt, it's mostly their own fault for siding with the devil. IMO.
In the uk, you don't need building permission for buildings below a certain height, I believe.
Also, this is very similar to a thing for underground housing designed and built, I believe, by one of the former members of the Prog Rock band "Yes." [it might be a different one.]
These come in pre-formed fibre-glass shells, and can be linked together, and look "way cool" as they say.
"The people that block popup ads are the same people who would *NEVER* click on a popup ad and purchase something, so I'm sorry, but I can't really see what their problem is."
Advertising works on the principle [so to speak] of temptation. So if you can't see the ad, you can't be tempted...ooh...shiny! [click]
Some advertising campaigns do actually work, however, pop-up ads are an abomination.
"I can think of one occupation that's even more important than that -- Motherhood."
Important to whom? ~ Everything's relative [pardon the pun.]
Humans are currently destroying the planet's resourses, and living increasingly resourse-hungry lives. I'm sure we'd all benefit from less people being born; us humans, pretty much every animal on the planet...
I don't know where you got that definition, but in English Law at least it's the the unlawful acquisition to deprive someone of their property , permanently; thus if you had every intention of returning it, despite that person's temporary deprivation, it's still not theft.
"The problem is much like the much-loved "reduced warantee" on hard-drives where all the manufacturers conspire to reduce warantees at the same time, the same could be true for the broadband industry."
But we live in a Capitalist Society... Competition will save us,... Conspire???
Ermm.... I don't understand... [/naivity]
Well I don't know if the original poter was talking about e-mail spam only, or including web site advertisments also, but I see it as a huge problem that you should have to pay for advertisements to be served to you, naturally, unwanted.
Can we call that theft?
I see the perfect solution: have McDonald's outlets in The Sims, AND let us have Sims that crazily run into them, and open up their Uzi on the diners before firebombing the place. >8oD
That's the only way I'd ever buy a McCraphead's sponsored "product."