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Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines

An anonymous reader writes "There is a new Quicktime Trailer avalible for Terminator 3 up and avalible to download. Features include shiny chrome, blue LED's a-plenty and a few seconds of a CGI'ed army of Terminators." Looks like a pretty fun movie.

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  1. I agree completely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FP!

  2. I won't ever see this one by ekrout · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are *some* disadvantages to having a girlfriend.

    Oh well, I'm sure You've Got Mail II will be pretty cool.

    Sigh.

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    1. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funniest damn thing this anonymous coward has read in a while. Perhaps you'll get more pleasure out of the "Kate and Leopold Special Extended Edition"

    2. Re:I won't ever see this one by image · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Oh well, I'm sure You've Got Mail II will be pretty cool.

      Ha. Although I suspect it will be called You've Got Mailer.

      Or, You've Got More Mail.

      No wait, I Still Know You've Got Mail.

      Thanks folks, I'll be here all week.

    3. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shouldn't that be

      You've got spam 2000?

    4. Re:I won't ever see this one by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "There are *some* disadvantages to having a girlfriend."

      Shh! Don't admit you won't see it because of a girlfriend, call it an MPAA boycott!

    5. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably stole that post from someone else too, didn't you? Dipshit.

      For anyone who doesn't recognize this guy, take a look at his journal. Basically he rips off other people's posts to collect karma points for himself, thereby toying around with the system in general and getting on people's nerves. Don't rate him up, it's what he wants.

    6. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      screw you, screw you up your stupid ass. Most likely film you'll be seeing soon is You've Got Male II - a scat porn written by Jon Katz and staring Michael and Malda.

    7. Re:I won't ever see this one by v8interceptor · · Score: 1

      You've Got Mail, Would You Like To Buy a University Diploma?

      or:

      You've Got Mail From Nigeria!

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    8. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I had a girlfriend that I could think of lame excuses to mention on slashdot...

    9. Re:I won't ever see this one by LFS.Morpheus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking You've Got Spam, but I guess that'd be the name of a porn movie.

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    10. Re:I won't ever see this one by loconet · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ha. Although I suspect it will be called You've Got Mailer.

      For a sec I read .... "You've got to nail her"

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    11. Re:I won't ever see this one by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Why not You've Got Bad Grammar?

      You have mail...

      Oh, wait, this is AOL/TW. Gotta remember it's the media industry's ultimate goal to achieve duckspeak.

    12. Re:I won't ever see this one by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 1

      Yours maybe, but not mine. :-)

    13. Re:I won't ever see this one by Regul8or · · Score: 1

      Lets get something straight. She's not your girlfriend then, she's just a sexual objective. You'll see the big picture as time goes on.

    14. Re:I won't ever see this one by Big+Sean+O · · Score: 2

      Haha...

      Silly ekrout! You got a girlfriend that takes you to chick-flicks.

      You should have done what I did: waited for a woman who drags me to Spiderman and The Two Towers, and then marry her.

      Granted, it took me 20 years to find her.

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    15. Re:I won't ever see this one by tezzery · · Score: 3, Funny

      Come on baby.. the new robot is a girl. this movie empowers women!..

      (it's worth a try)

    16. Re:I won't ever see this one by yobbo · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking something along the lines of Dude... where's my mail?

    17. Re:I won't ever see this one by RayOfLight · · Score: 1

      You definitely need to get out more.

    18. Re:I won't ever see this one by btellier · · Score: 2

      I don't get it. Spam is a luncheon meat or internet bulk mail. Maybe You've Got Male Genitalia with due respect to Family Guy.

    19. Re:I won't ever see this one by samael · · Score: 2

      You don't have friends you can go with?

      I've had my current girlfriend for a year and a half but I don't go everywhere with her!

    20. Re:I won't ever see this one by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      Oh well, I'm sure You've Got Mail II will be pretty cool.

      I thought You've Got Mail was great! Not as good as Wall Street or The Thomas Crown Affair but I love movies where ruthless businessmen get exactly what they want. One day, I'm going to be just like them.

    21. Re:I won't ever see this one by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 1

      I know who you mailed last summer

    22. Re:I won't ever see this one by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

      Or how about:

      You've got spam!

      Starring Alan Ralsky :)

    23. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, he can't even go someplace for 2 hours alone without telling her where he is it sounds like. I'm sure she wouldn't approve of him having friends.

    24. Re:I won't ever see this one by vangrubt · · Score: 1

      A little advice for a fellow geek. Get rid of that hag (no offense intended) and pick up a new girlfriend at the movie. I can guarantee a lifetime of happiness*

      *(or severe beatings from a morphing arm)

    25. Re:I won't ever see this one by Jahf · · Score: 1
      If you celebrate Xmas, befriend me [slashdot.org] (538 fans)!

      Cool, I was looking for an excuse to have just -one- foe here on the dot. :) Nothing personal ...

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    26. Re:I won't ever see this one by EvilAlien · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a girlfriend destined to never become a fiancé... =P

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    27. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a girl and I own the 2 terminator DVD's and can't wait to see 3! I thought You've Got Mail was hoaky...

    28. Re:I won't ever see this one by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      My wife complained because we couldn't make the midnight showing of two towers.>:) I adore her.

      Kintanon

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    29. Re:I won't ever see this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ummm, I feel this is fully a joke because I think it is only in sitcoms and comedy routines where this happens. I would never listen to a woman that said I could not watch this. I can't even imagine me ever approaching the type that would demand this to be more precise. This is sort of a "Saving Silverman" type of relationship and I feel it is just as real.

      Not to say it isn't funny however...

    30. Re:I won't ever see this one by c0dedude · · Score: 2

      Oh well, I'm sure You've Got Mail II will be pretty cool.

      Yeah, me too, in the sense that being dragged through a million AOL popup ads would totally rule. And having to watch grass grow for three hours would kickass.

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  3. More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by DigitalDad · · Score: 0, Troll

    Has Slashdot become an outlet for Hollywood? I thought we were against these people...

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    1. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by carpe_noctem · · Score: 0, Troll

      I know you're going to get modded down for being ot, troll or whatever, but I think you've got a damn good point. Does every damn crappy new movie need to get press on /.? Why do we have to fuel their fires?

      Seems to me that if we are really interesting in fighting the MPAA/RIAA, we should just boycott their crap and not give them any attention at all.

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    2. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well hell, all they need to do is change the headlines a little:

      "New Terminator Movie to boycott"

      and they could shut up ALL the whiners, and the movie would get just as much publicity.

    3. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heheh why do I get the feeling you went to the Ted Kazinski Charm School? I can see you now, leaning out your apartment window, shaking your fist at people coming in and out of Blockbuster Video...

      We're nerds, we like sci-fi movies, sheesh.

    4. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Has Slashdot become an outlet for Hollywood? I thought we were against these people..."

      I'm not sure if you noticed this or not, but the movies that Slashdot covers are, coincidentally, scifi/fantasy and are of interest to the vast majority of the people who visit this site.

    5. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      true enough. First TTT, then T3 (the trailer for the latter of which was before my viewing of the former).

      more geek, less chic

    6. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1, Troll

      "I know you're going to get modded down for being ot, troll or whatever, but I think you've got a damn good point. Does every damn crappy new movie need to get press on /.? "

      You should get modded down as a troll. I'm not convinced you put any real thought into what you're saying. Let me point out a few things to you:

      a.) It's well known that most /. visitors love sci-fi and/or fantasy.
      b.) It's well known that every movie reviewed on /. fits into category A. By definition, this is not 'every damn crappy new movie'.
      c.) It's well known that it is common for Hollywood to make a highly anticipated movie, and turn it into a big steamy pile-o-poo(tm).
      d.) If a movie's bad, we'd like to know if it's worth avoiding.

      Why do you even care? It's not like this article took the place of a story like "Microsoft Destroyed in Earthquake". I guess what I'm really trying to say is "Quitcherbitchen and STFU." You can very easily filter out stories about movies.

    7. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well its news for nerds, and nerds love famous fictitious characters. No, its true. I just got back from LOTR, and there were people dressed up in star trek outfits and someone else had a lightsaber! I'm like what fucking movie did you guys think you were seeing? Its like they just want to congregate and dress up to show how nerdy they are. But I shouldn't complain, cause I like to laugh.

    8. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by sfe_software · · Score: 2

      They have addressed this issue in the FAQ. Anyway it seems like it will be a pretty cool movie -- too bad I have to wait until July to see it :(

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    9. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by DigitalDad · · Score: 0, Troll

      Thing is, I really don't care if I get modded down for being OT or a Troll. Throw me into negative numbers if people need to, my life won't change.

      I just see all these postings about the newest sci/fi movie and the next post is how or why we should boycott Hollywood. I just don't understand. In addition, there's not one but TWO articles this time.

      This is just my opinion, but I don't see promotion of a new movie as NEWS. I don't care what the FAQ's say, to *ME* it's not news. To me this is akin to someone posting how awesome the new software offering from Microsoft is. If people feel the need to slam me because of my opion, then by all means, fire away. It won't be the first time.

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    10. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      you can get anything your want at Alice's restaurant...

      Look, Dad, you don't want to be so grumpy with a typo in your sig.

    11. Re:More movie reviews / trailers / etc??? by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 2

      So far Slashdot has been decent enough to link stories about movies that are actually worth seeing. Spirited Away, The Two Towers, maybe T3(I won't hold my breath on this one.) I don't think they've overdone it, and I do appreciate hearing everyone's comments/reviews about a particular movie that I might want to see.

      But I do agree that there's legitimate concern. This is how it starts...the mafia offers you the big bucks once they realize they can get lots of exposure here. I don't think you're up to that, but try to be conscious of the danger(and I'm sure you are). If that kind of thing takes hold here....Slashdot will be just another thing people will forget about. You may be able to milk it for a few years....but you and your editors would be hitting the want-ads soon enough. I know times aren't easy right now, but please don't sell us out like that.

      The primary commodity here at Slashdot is word of mouth. Product placement/endorsement endangers that.(Including modding Troll those who question the values of the endorser)

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  4. MOD PARENT +0 PFFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pfft

  5. T3 Looks ShitE by korea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know it's unavoidable, but Arnold is getting old and just looks strange as the Terminator. And the fact that the new "girl" bot looks a regression of design versus the t1000 :| Damn I feel bad for saying this. If it's any consolation, I -hope- that this movie is good.

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    1. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the fact that the new "girl" bot looks a regression of design versus the t1000.

      I don't know about you, but if that's a regression, I'm all in favor of them sliding further and further backwards.

    2. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "And the fact that the new "girl" bot looks a regression of design versus the t1000 :| Damn I feel bad for saying this."

      As long as she has machine-gun jubblies, I'm in!

    3. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by zaffir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No kidding. I don't want another "the super machine came back in time to kill you and i'm here to protect you" story. I was hoping to see the the rise of the machines part of the story fleshed out - like the title indicates. But this looks just like the other two, only with better CGI.

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    4. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by naChoZ · · Score: 1
      I'm already looking forward to the filthy critic review...

      Seriously though, they could've made something cool out of part 3, something creative with the changing of fate maybe. Something deep. But no, go to imdb and look at the tagline:

      Eight Years Ago. The Machines Who Rule The Future Sent An Unstoppable Terminator To Assassinate The Young John Connor. They Failed. In 2003. The Machines Will Try Again.
      Give me a BREAK! More spooge from collective asses of hollywood's finest.

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    5. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by CommieLib · · Score: 2

      One thing that has always bugged me about T2 and now T3 is that they didn't repeat a really cool tiny, tiny detail that made Arnie look really creepy in T-1.

      No eyebrows.

      Something so small that you don't notice it unless you're told about it. Something easily overlooked by a machine designing a human. And God knows, something easy for wardrobe to whip up before a shot.

      The only thing that occurs to me about it is that it makes Arnie look really creepy and now he's the hero. Too bad.

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    6. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by JourneymanMereel · · Score: 1

      In my neck of the woods they showed this preview with the Lord of the Rings so I saw it about 1:30 this afternoon. The best line in the trailer was "She'll be back" near the end of it.

      Hmmm... if that's the best thing I can say about the preview (minus the blonde, of course :) then maybe it's not something I'm gonna waste my money on... then again, there is the blonde.

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    7. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      You're right, I never did notice that. Except it looks like he will have eyebrows in T3.

      Either way, there's been a script floating around the net for like 5 years now (perhaps longer?). I'm so dissapointed that they're not using it, and that they're using the same story again with a "terminatrix" that I probably won't see it until it rolls around to video. For those of you unfamiliar, the script that's been floating around had T3 take place entirly in the future durring the metal wars.

    8. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know it's unavoidable, but Arnold is getting old and just looks strange as the Terminator.

      Three words: digital waddle removal. One of the shots up for bidding on T3 was digitally smoothing over the skin under Ahnult's chin. He's a 55 year old man now, and it's loose and wobbly enough that they need it cleaned up in post.

    9. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by theArtificial · · Score: 0

      indeed. i don't think a chick can play the role...

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    10. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by jjsoh · · Score: 1

      "pain is weakness leaving the body."

      OT, but I have a friend that tells me this ALL the time, even using it as part of his e-mail sig. You wouldn't happen to be a practitioner of TKD, would you? Then I'd understand. Not so much in agreement, but why you would say it. Heh. :)

      Oh well, too bad I'm allergic to pain. X(

    11. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard from IGN that the new Terminator was made of pure energy.

    12. Re:T3 Looks ShitE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what you should be asking, is "I wonder if she travels back in time, NAKED!"

  6. someone PLEASE tell me ... by dlasley · · Score: 1

    that arnold has opted out of this one ... ?

    please?

    anyone ... ?

    oh, drat!

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  7. WINNAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +10 AC frequency bonus!

  8. We need a direct link people!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone post a direct link to the .mov so I can watch it in mplayer. TIA!

  9. No no, "BOYFRIEND" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's okay ekrout, you can admit it publically.

  10. I can see Arnold now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arnold: "You have been targeted for termination."
    Scene: Arnold lifts up his walker/machine gun to finish the job and yells.
    Arnold: Owwww my hip!

  11. Looks like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    she...it

  12. Re:Mpeg version! (Thanks) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works great.

  13. You have a typo: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Bucknell engineering major" should read "Raging homosexual pedophile". HTH. HAND.

  14. Obligatory Slashdotting joke ... by BabyDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Terminator 4: Skynet gets Slashdotted"

    1. Re:Obligatory Slashdotting joke ... by Joey7F · · Score: 2

      True, it is slashdotted already...

      Looks more like the decline of the machines...

      --Joey

    2. Re:Obligatory Slashdotting joke ... by ickyfreak · · Score: 0

      imagine a beowolf cluster of those

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    3. Re:Obligatory Slashdotting joke ... by Siva · · Score: 1

      Skynet gets Slashdotted

      you FOOL! that's not Terminator 4, that's the ending of Terminator 3! you've ruined it for everyone!

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  15. Return of the elderly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, ar-nulds back....and so is rocky, scare eh?

    1. Re:Return of the elderly? by Cyno01 · · Score: 2

      So's Mad Max in case you hadn't heard.

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    2. Re:Return of the elderly? by JebusIsLord · · Score: 2

      and Indiana Jones too

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    3. Re:Return of the elderly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you think your being funny with your nick, but consider this a warning: the Lord does not take kindly to those who abuse His Name. Poking fun at God's only Son is not going to win you any points at the Gates of Heaven. Think about it.

    4. Re:Return of the elderly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The son of god is named Jebus? Wow. The publishers of the Bible really ought to correct that typo in their next edition. Anybody know an email address for them?

      Or, in other words, stfu you ignorant twat.

    5. Re:Return of the elderly? by JebusIsLord · · Score: 2

      Nah its ok, it really is a stab. Tell this "Jesus" fellow he can suck it.

      I have lots of karma, bring it on :)

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  16. Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Myriad · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I just watched the trailer and am quite disappointed!

    I was under the impression that T3 was going to tell the story of Skynet coming on-line and the war - taking place entirely in the future.

    Instead we get the same concept as T2: an new, advanced Terminator is sent back in time to kill people (presumably Connor once again), and it appears a new Terminator is sent back to protect them, again (Arnold).

    The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.

    All these years and all they could come up with is the Baywatch Effect?

    Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better then that.

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    1. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cameron isn't directing it. Jonathan Mostow is.

      http://us.imdb.com/Title?0181852

    2. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by melatonin · · Score: 3, Informative
      Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better then that.

      Cameron's not doing this one. He's only credited to coming up with the characters. This movie is purely milking the cash cow.

      On the plus side, those Terminator box sets should be going cheap now. I think I'll pick one up.

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    3. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, James Cameron has nothing to do with it.
      He is credited for the original characters/story only.

    4. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Pr0xY · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, Cameron has absolutely nothing to do with Terminator 3....so you can't blame him

    5. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as I know, Mr. Cameron has *nothing* to do with T3... there was a story posted some time ago about how T3 came into being, and JC was NOT happy with the sequence of events... and lost control (or something) of the franchise.

      My understanding is that this is getting made because Arnold wants it.

    6. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by MalcalypseTheYounger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would imagine it should say something that Cameron decided not to direct it. Maybe he already knows that no amount of directing can save this movie from being a mindless summer blockbuster for horny net geeks?

    7. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by TrevorB · · Score: 2

      The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.

      Red Leather? Does that mean she's as cool as Ka D'Argo?

      Sorry, I can't find the original slashdot comment. For those who know what I'm talking about (black leather, not cool enough for red leather, repeat)... well, you're as lame as I am...

    8. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.

      I'm betting it tops $100 million in the first weekend.

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    9. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by bottlerocket · · Score: 1

      Actually, James Cameron has nothing to do with this one. It's being directed by Jonathan Mostow, the guy who brought us U-571.

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    10. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by SparkyMartin · · Score: 1

      This movie is purely milking the cash cow

      This is the first Terminator movie in over 10 years and the third in 19 years-I'd hardly call that a cash cow. For comparison how many Star Trek movies and series were developed or in production since 1991? 4 TV series and 5 movies if I count correctly. Star Trek is a cash cow, well was, up to the last movie.

    11. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Dot+Com+Drew · · Score: 1

      Ok the story of Skynet coming online would be something that I would want to see. Is this in any of the books? I'm too lazy do some googling and I know someone here has read all the books.

      Answers, anyone?

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    12. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      congrats, you have made "Baywatch Effect" a new proverb

    13. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 2

      Did you just watch a different trailer than I did? All I saw was the Warner Brothers logo for 8 seconds, then it turned into liquid metal and dripped onto the ground, then reformed into a big block that said T3. That was it. Where is the buxom chick in the red skintight outfit or Arnold or an army of terminators? I didn't see shit.

    14. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by dh003i · · Score: 2

      The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit

      Not to be the stereotypical guy, but that sounds good to me.

    15. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by mskfisher · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Buxom" and "large breasts" are synonymous.

      Just FYI.

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    16. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Did you just watch a different trailer than I did?

      You bet. The one referenced is a LONG download (at least at the "Large" size), and runs for a couple of minutes.

    17. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by commodoresloat · · Score: 2
      The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.

      Dude, I am so there.

    18. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1

      Bah, forget it. Stupid web cache had the old teaser cached at that address. The new trailer doesn't look much better though. Skynet never gets built, terminators can never happen, this movie should not be released. Period. If you want to make it Terminator 1.5 fine. Have her come back and try to kill Sarah Conner, but Skynet is gone after they destroyed it years earlier. Also, that reminds me, wasn't the LAST movie grasping at straws on sending back a liquid metal guy? I thought in the original movie the only way the terminators could time travel was because they were covered in an organic skin which is why they showed up naked. Naked metal guy didn't have skin, but metal. Why could he travel in time while an arnold without skin couldn't? If they can send machines back in time, why not send 300 terminators back or a big atomic bomb to destroy the city where John Conner lives. Duh.

    19. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There could be a new twist! Maybe this female terminator is sent back in time to seduce John Connor and have his cybernetic love child and THEN kill him, leaving the child to grow up as the uncontested ruler of the earth and then go further back into the future to overthrow the Romulan senate and rule the universe! Yahtzee!

    20. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Snoopy77 · · Score: 1

      Director1: Hey, this story line is really no different.
      Director2: Hmmm, your right. Hey what if we make the Terminator a blonde bomshell?
      Director1: Yeah! And maybe she can be a lesbian and seduce ...
      Director2: Ummm No.

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    21. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because skynet doesn't have a big enough special effects budget

      also it would have to sing a song or something for the rest of the ~2 hours or whatever that the movie is supposed to run

    22. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was disappointed too. I was looking forward to someting along the lines of the "Burning Earth" Terminator miniseries of comics that came out a decade ago... Dark future, after the war, all that stuff.
      This looks like T2 with the villian having a sex change. Sigh.

    23. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Tuffnut · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you've been misinformed. James Cameron is not the director of the new Terminator 3 film. It was directed by Jonathan Mostow.

    24. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by zoloto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      he probably was encased into a flesh bubble, then shedded the skin when he arrived. as for the sending a nuke or 300 terminators back, they didn't want to disrupt the timeline entirely. it might have threatened the terminators alltogether ..

    25. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Gadzinka · · Score: 1

      Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better then that.

      You really believe that after the "Titanic"...? ;)

      Robert

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    26. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      >>The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit.

      >>All these years and all they could come up with is the Baywatch Effect?

      And this is a bad thing?

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    27. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by MongooseCN · · Score: 2

      ...evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts...

      Where else are you going to hide human terminating bombs?

    28. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by detritus. · · Score: 1

      No, they'll probably save that for the 3 prequels to follow.

    29. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by PD · · Score: 1

      I'll watch the first 5 minutes. You know, the part where they transport in. I already know how it's going to end.

      First we crush her, then we melt her. Then the gratuitous nudity before she dies. Roll credits.

    30. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey there meatstack, you watched the teaser, not the full trailer....

      she is hot

      even if cameron directed it, it still would be shit, the man is a huge asshole anyway, none of the diahhreah he calls movies would stick even if you tried nailing it to a wall

    31. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 2

      Director1: Yeah! And maybe she can be a lesbian and seduce ...
      Director2: Ummm No.


      What do you mean no? Not a fan of the ladies, are you Trebek?

    32. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was under the impression that T3 was going to tell the story of Skynet coming on-line and the war - taking place entirely in the future.

      That's what Terminator 4 is for.

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    33. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Albinoman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If memory serves the city where John Connor lives is also the city where Skynet sits. The hand of the Terminator gets left behind in T2. Plus Im sure that there was more than one scan of that chip + the people working on them. Only one floor of Skynet got fuxored. Skynet, Im sure, also has insurance that would pay for this. Also the idea for that chip has to come from somewhere. It wasnt always sent back in time. Someone had to come up with it.

      The organic thing was in the first movie, not second. Better time travelling thingy?

      The objective of time travel is not to change the past, but to change the present. Change the past and you might never happen.

    34. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't make fun of the horny net geeks.

    35. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Peter_Pork · · Score: 1

      That's right. You only need a sexy blonde in the movie and people will pour into the theaters, so why should Hollywood care about plots and explore the interesting side of the franchise (i.e., the rise of Skynet)? Good plots require time to develop, and a thinking audience. This is way too complicated in a very simple business... We are here to make $100 million, not a good movie, so let's put more sexy blondes and forget about everything else. Wait and see. T3 will work, so Hollywood will get yet another reinforcement of their movie industry model. Give people what they want. Help them be even more braindead. Skynet, please, come and save us from our pitiful future!

    36. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2

      What would have been great is if Arnold played the actual human being that the original T800 model was based on. No robotic parts inside, just 100% human guts.

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    37. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by CptCook · · Score: 1

      Hasn't James Cameron decided to devote his life to Titanic-related stuff now??

    38. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by MouseR · · Score: 2

      No robotic parts inside, just 100% human guts.

      And a few silicon implants.

    39. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      "Organic" doesn't necessarily mean "carbon based."

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    40. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by coldtone · · Score: 1

      I was under the impression that T3 was going to tell the story of Skynet coming on-line and the war

      As far as I can see that is exactly what it is. Notice the shots of the small flying robot and this one. I'll bet that what's going on is that Skynet is online and building an army to wipe out humanity. For some reason it couldn't launch a nuke strike so its going about domination some other way. The T-X is sent buy the future skynet to protect its younger self.

    41. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lovely Ms. Loken wears a b-cup bra. Beautiful, but not over-the-top big.

      If you want to get even baser, her legs are HOT.

    42. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Aronymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      If this flesh-encasing theory was feasible, why didn't Michael Biehn (can't remember the character's name) stuff some clothes and advanced weapons in a turkey and bring it with him, giving himself some kind of advantage?

      Hell, why didn't Arnie bring anything in a meatbag with him either?

    43. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U-571....Oh my god in heaven...the pain! The Pain!

    44. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he already knows that no amount of directing can save this movie from being a mindless summer blockbuster for horny net geeks?

      So what you're saying is that you can't improve on perfection?

    45. Re:Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5 by zoloto · · Score: 1

      it would have disrupted the time line if anyone or the technology was caught... send them back naked and people will think they're crazy. send them with gobs of weapons will attract the national guard

  17. Blah by Madsci · · Score: 1

    Isn't it time someone 'terminated' useless, spawn-of-the-last-one, techno pics? I mean, really, is there someone out there who thinks, "Yeah, finally, T3, and more Ahnold."? If there is, I that much more disgusted with our species.

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    1. Re:Blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I am very dissapointed in our species because there are people that think so much of their opinnion, and so little of other people...
      I think this movie is going to rock, and I am definitley going to see it... just because... it's going to be simple entertaiment...

  18. I hear.. by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 3, Funny

    In this one Arnold passes a kidney stone made of pure medal.

    1. Re:I hear.. by delstar+dotstar · · Score: 2, Funny

      No - iss leekwit medal.

    2. Re:I hear.. by Jhan · · Score: 2

      Heh... Which reminds me of The Best Terminator Quote ever:

      Mei brean is a neoral net praocessor. Tha more contact I have with heaumans, tha meaore I leaurn.
      --

      I choose to remain celibate, like my father and his father before him.

  19. Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Google by ciurana · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Google

    Thanks,

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  20. only that by lingqi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gosh I really wish they can just let these things die.

    Really...

    Why does the movie industry have to pimp a franchise until it runs out of money, but at the cost of running out of charm too?

    Take MIB - it was nice, well, self contained. MIB2 was not NEARLY as good, but they just HAD to drag everyone back to make another sequel (and probably one after that too)

    Arnold is like how old now?

    And there is gonna be another Rocky? - so will I see dentures flying in the ring?

    Creativity just seem really lacking these days. Can't we go and start some new pop legend, instead of feeding on old ones till our brains shrivel?

    *matrix is the only "new" one i can think of it off the top of my head. Fight Club maybe too - and I really hope there is no sequel to that*

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    1. Re:only that by RumpRoast · · Score: 1
      Another Rocky? You are kidding, right? Please, tell me you are kidding.

      Perhaps this one features Mr. T as well? Maybe they could get Survivor to supply the theme song.

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      My Ass hurts.
    2. Re:only that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      Why does the movie industry have to pimp a franchise until it runs out of money, but at the cost of running out of charm too?


      I agree. What the hell is up with making another Lord of the Rings sequel? The original movie was just fine and I think it ended clearly and left no loose ends. Frodo takes the ring off the Mount Doom with Sam and throws it in the lava pit to rid the world of that evil and the other guys (don't know their names... the elf guy and the guy from Indiana Jones and the other dude with the beard) can just go off back to their own people and live happily ever after. Why do all these movies have to be dragged out into 2 or 3 sequels these days? It destroys the franchise and makes the original that much less interesting. Could you imagine if they did this idiotic shit with books? Who would buy a book when they KNOW there's going to be two others they'll have to buy to finish the story?

    3. Re:only that by detritus. · · Score: 1

      Oh, and a spoiler for the new Rocky movie, Rocky wins the fight.

    4. Re:only that by .@. · · Score: 2

      Matrix? Original? The sound you're now hearing is Lewis Carroll, spinning in his grave. Or any of a number of other authors from whom various plot devices were borrowed.

      Original, indeed.

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      .@.
    5. Re:only that by NukeIear · · Score: 1

      Actually, Plato is rolling over in his grave, it's his cave metaphor that they use.

    6. Re:only that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creativity just seem really lacking these days. Can't we go and start some new pop legend, instead of feeding on old ones till our brains shrivel?

      You are right about this. We have people saying that LoTR and HarryPotter was a big waste of time and money...What about J-Lo can't that Getto girl quit movies and quit trying to be in every headline? ANy one see 8 Mile?

    7. Re:only that by Eil · · Score: 2


      I agree, but to some degree *every* movie, book, and story borrows from something before it. Scholars and literary critics have noted frequently that there haven't been any original plots developed since Shakespeare's work.

      The difference between The Matrix and everything else is that the Wachowski[sp] Brothers pulled their fantastic story together from so many different places. (And admit as such.) Contrast that with almost all of the rest of today's movies and you'll see that they tend to mostly borrow from only one, two, or at most three sources. It's particularly disgusting when the sources are movies already themselves. IMHO, that's basically stealing.

    8. Re:only that by jez9999 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But J-Lo has quite a nice ass, can you say the same thing about LotR or Harry Potter? :-)

    9. Re:only that by Craig3010 · · Score: 1

      Isn't Liv Tyler in LOTR2? If so, then she has J-Lo beat bigtime with her DSL alone!

  21. clueless movie website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have just been erased! ---------------- Ignore the "Full Screen" button as it doesnt function.

    1. Re:clueless movie website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, it worked for me before. The "Full Screen" link is just slashdotted.

  22. They should get George Carlin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to play the terminator...
    He could say "Adios, motherfucker!"

    1. Re:They should get George Carlin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I read trolling all day...I've been around since that "naked and stoned" shit and I've seen a lot. And that actually made me laugh out loud in a public place. Goddamn you, sir.

  23. I love fembots! by deathcloset · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Seven of Nine like you have never seen her before!

    1. Re:I love fembots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what are you talking about? That chick isn't seven of nine. Furthermore, she has nothing on seven of nine.

  24. Trailer before TTT by OpMindFck · · Score: 1

    "She'll be back"
    I never thought that I might not want to go see T3 until I saw that trailer. Very weak looking movie. Course, they have lots of time to CG it up for us. Since we all know that more CG makes for a better movie, right?

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  25. Budget by tw1z · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given the stratospheric budget on this one ($150 MM at last check), it is really amazing that they aren't even attempting a twist... I mean come on, how hard is it to push everything forward 50 years and show the skynet war details, or do a prequel, or something besides Terminator 2 redone with better effects... it's such a predictable shame when production companies are given such incredible budgets and they destroy such seemingly indestructible plot concepts

    1. Re:Budget by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

      with a budget like $150 M they can actually build a real, functional skynet and instead of making a movie, make the whole series a self-fulfilling prophecy. ;-P

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    2. Re:Budget by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      comment on this post with the terms "self-fulfilling prophecy", "retroactive abortion" from the first movie, and one other rumination on time travel paradoxes, and i swear, your nose will begin to bleed.

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      intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
    3. Re:Budget by Neil+Sausage · · Score: 0

      It's much easier to budget effects than creativity and while it may be "amazing" how poor T3 looks in the plotline department, it's hardly unsurprising. Perhaps it's melodramatic to write but creativity usually suffers at the hands of a large budget because the producers and the studio want to ensure their profits. This means they hire more writers which instead of producing an additive effect on creative quality, essentially removes the drive of the film - assuming there ever was one besides having a couple stars and a bland hook to land moviegoers - and either wears it down to the lowest common denominator plotline (see most any sequel) or into a schizophrenic mess (Rollerball, so I've heard). It's only when the plot is the drive behind the film that it has a reasonable chance of successfully making it through the hell of being a big budget studio film (LOTR, 2001).

    4. Re:Budget by mskfisher · · Score: 2

      $150 MM... that's like... $300,000.

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    5. Re:Budget by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      I'd be happy for a terminator 2 but without the kid actors. The kid playing John Connor really sucked. His bad acting (and his stupid lines) ruined the movie for me. So much so that I didn't even buy the laserdisc when I saw it for $5.00. OTOH Terminator 1 was a masterpiece. I still have the laserdisc, although it's not the THX version.

      So a remake of T2 is totally fine by me. I just hope they don't try to give the hot 22 yr old model babe any lines because she's clearly a model, not an actress. Hopefully, as with Species, she won't be able to talk :).

      Having said that, this director sucks, and there's no way that the director of U-571 and Breakdown is going to be able to make this work.

      It will make lots of money though, and that's all the studios need to know. If James Cameron, or Ridley Scott, or an equivalent Sci-fi/Action director is not willing to do it, then IT SHOULDN'T BE MADE.

      I genuinely attribute these decisions directly to the cynicism of the studio execs. They're not even *pretending* to care anymore. They know people will see the movie no matter what they do and no matter what the critics say about it. And they're right.

      --
      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    6. Re:Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      T2 costed $100M in 1991. $150M now is pretty low.

    7. Re:Budget by pythorlh · · Score: 0
      C:\>tracert life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness

      Denied Access. Route blocked at dhs.gov.us

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    8. Re:Budget by CptCook · · Score: 1

      Thank you... that made me laugh for the last 5 mins!!

    9. Re:Budget by Guipo · · Score: 1

      you know...has anyone really seen this movie yet, or just the preview. Brings in the old addage, Dont judge a book by its cover. Why dont we just wait till its out, before we already KNOW what its about.

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    10. Re:Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be happy for a terminator 2 but without the kid actors. The kid playing John Connor really sucked. His bad acting (and his stupid lines) ruined the movie for me

      Yet but he's in movies and you're not! Enought said!

      It will make lots of money though, and that's all the studios need to know. If James Cameron, or Ridley Scott, or an equivalent Sci-fi/Action director is not willing to do it, then IT SHOULDN'T BE MADE

      Oh so what, there are no other good directors out there? Amateurs like you probably said the same thing when JC directed the first Terminator. "What, who is this guy, I never heard of him" "Why didn't they get xxx instead. It will be so terrible"

      OTOH Terminator 1 was a masterpiece. I still have the laserdisc, although it's not the THX version

      Terminator 1 was a masterpiece? Or did you mean you "masterbated your piece" when you watched it? It was a good movie, still is, but hardly a masterpiece. Oh I just got back from the bathroom and I now have some abstract artwork I just made on some toiletpaper (if you know what that is). Personally I think it's shit but I'm sure a person of you stature will think it's a "masterpiece."

      And who the fuck uses laserdisks nowadays? Still use 8" floppies and 8-track as well? Crawl back into your Y2K bunker.

  26. Modders by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Features include shiny chrome, blue LED's a-plenty
    So someone case modded a T1000?
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    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
    1. Re:Modders by zephc · · Score: 2

      She needs more heat sinks and fans because she's HOT HOT HOT

      [/joke]

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    2. Re:Modders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, uh, and check out her exhaust fan!

  27. Been there done that!! by mrdscholl · · Score: 1

    And yet again Hollywood proves that there out of ideas...

    Oh I'm soory this evil terminator has boobs.
    Thats COMPLETELY different.

    1. Re:Been there done that!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no, evil Terminator has a goatee... ... just not on her face..

    2. Re:Been there done that!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have it on good authority that evil Terminator actually sports a landing strip. There are some pics floating around the 'Net. Google for more.

  28. Sucker by magic · · Score: 1
    Well, they got me to install Quicktime 6 to be greeted with error -2129.


    I'm disappointed-- this movie looks like a spoof of T2, not a quality sequel.


    -m

    1. Re:Sucker by Farmbubba · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, I have 2 computers with that problem, mac and PC. Don't go for the "full screen"; "Large" works just fine.

    2. Re:Sucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      QT6 does rock still, though.

      The Full Screen link was slashdotted.

    3. Re:Sucker by Pope · · Score: 2

      As long as you weren't greeted with error ED-209, consider yourself lucky! :)

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      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
  29. Re:their not there by mrdscholl · · Score: 1


    now i'm the boob

  30. Kristanna Loken by Cadre · · Score: 2
    ...I'm all in favor of them sliding further and further backwards.

    Amen.

    I bet she likes it rough... :-)

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    All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    1. Re:Kristanna Loken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The machines aren't the only thing rising! Whew!

    2. Re:Kristanna Loken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rise of the machines, indeed....

    3. Re:Kristanna Loken by seann · · Score: 0, Troll

      NSTRUCTIONS:
      PC: right click on image and 'set as wallpaper'
      MAC: drag the image off onto your desktop


      Wow, It's that simple to set a background for a Mac?
      Use-a-bil-i-ty!

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    4. Re:Kristanna Loken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hope that's not the only way to do it cause then I'd have to resize my window to do it, and that would suck a fat .... It's probably the only way to do it though cause Apple thinks their way is the only way.

    5. Re:Kristanna Loken by jez9999 · · Score: 2

      MAC: drag the image off onto your desktop

      So, how do you make a local copy of the image and put it on your desktop, or create a shortcut to the image on your desktop then?

    6. Re:Kristanna Loken by domc · · Score: 1

      Wow, it's kinda strange to see Kristanna's name mentioned on my favorite web site. Kristanna and I, and a couple friends lived in the same house for about four months in the late 90's. Very nice girl; I can't wait to see her kicking Arnie's ass!

      domc

    7. Re:Kristanna Loken by seann · · Score: 1

      probably hold some kind of CTRL key, or "right click, save to desktop"
      kinda how Konqueror has a "Copy to:" and it expands the directorys in a menu view.
      very handy

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    8. Re:Kristanna Loken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're pretty dumb.

  31. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uh

    you needed to use your +1 bonus for that?

    post responsibly.

  32. What's WRONG with you people? by Geekwad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can no one else see that this 'film' looks like complete shit. From the first line in the trailer .. "John Coonnoorrr... It's ttiimmeee.." it goes straight down-hill. What is this? Arny can't even play the TERMINATOR. The lines sound .. BAD .. not writing-wise.. but delivery-wise. Yes, there are only two of them (The second being the completely worthless "She'll be back.") but Arny reads them BADLY. Did no one else notice?

    And a female terminator? Does no one else see something wrong with that. I sincerely hope they didn't just do that for lame PC reasons. Why would the machines opt to make a smaller-framed, less physically imposing killing machine? The only way to justify it would be to have some sort of seduction bullshit and that would be stupid in its own right. Christ. So disappointing.

    I'm not even going to go into the fact that Arny is the ONLY member of the cast/crew who's come back for this. Cameron is gone and for good reason. He knew there was nothing to be done with the Terminator franchise after T2. T2 was as good as a film about futuristic cyborgs can get and it was the best action film of its (if not any) era. That's why Cameron's turned his attention to making True Lies II a good movie.

    God. I can't even count everything that's outlandish and ridiculous about T3. Yeah, we're all gonna see it .. but can we at least have a little backbone NOW and say that this trailer is shit?

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    1. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by RumpRoast · · Score: 1
      Actually, a female terminator could be an effective assasination tool..

      I'm sure no-one involved in making this movie could have written that movie though. Also they wouldn't have met the explosion quota.

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      My Ass hurts.
    2. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for helping the geek stereotype that all we do is sit around and bitch about how much smarter we are than everyone else.

      you should win a prize.

    3. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah a bad arse terminator is more likely to crawl into my bed than a buxom blonde killer ....

      I think not.

    4. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Geekwad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The point of the terminator is to TERMINATE. Now, yes, that means infiltration. But how many hot chicks do you think they have walking around around in Post-Apocalyptic Los Angeles?

      If they even think of having some sort of lame seduction scene, their cinematic integrity will go out the window faster than Axel Foley.

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    5. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by C32 · · Score: 1

      AMEN!
      I consider myself both a geek and a Terminator fan (I own the special editions of both movies and various comics/games), but this trailer just REEKS of Sequel-itis and crappy B-movie linies/acting/script...
      I SERIOUSLY doubt I'll watch this movie more than once.

    6. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by shird · · Score: 2

      What possible use does a robot have for tits? - or hair, or fingernails etc. They were designed like this to trick humans into believing they are humans.

      A hot buxom blonde is more convincingly human than some 6 foot Arnie. Besides, the T3000, or whatever the liquid metal guy was, could turn into anything, including I guess a chick - strange that he always took the form of some menacing cop which the others could identify. oh well.

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    7. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Wayfarer · · Score: 2
      Why would the machines opt to make a smaller-framed, less physically imposing killing machine?


      RIFF. What kind of scientist would make a robot look like that and instill her with puritan views?

      TORG. An evil scientist. Try to keep up here.

      RIFF. I wonder if she's fully biologically functional.

      TORG. Either that or she's full of sharp jagged metal parts and...

      RIFF. YEAAAAHH! Question withdrawn!

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    8. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arny reads them BADLY. Did no one else notice?

      Yeah, during the first two films, and every other movie he's ever done. Hello, this man is not known for his superb acting abilities.

    9. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by neoform · · Score: 1

      you do realize that the film isn'r due out for more then 6 months, meaning they aren't done filming. They always shoot the action scenes (most expensive) first when making movies, then they do the rest. That said they story parts of the movie haven't been shot much yet, so yeah the trailer is all action.

      Also i don't think the "She'll be back" will actually end up in the movie.. it's a teaser type thing to say anyway, not something they'd actually put in the movie.

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    10. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Geekwad · · Score: 1

      No. That's just not true. Arnie may not be the best actor in the world but he played the Terminator well. He delivered those lines convincingly. In this trailer, he reads them like a 12 year old child.

      You've gotta at least agree on that point.

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    11. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      And a female terminator? Does no one else see something wrong with that. I sincerely hope they didn't just do that for lame PC reasons. Why would the machines opt to make a smaller-framed, less physically imposing killing machine?

      When the new terminator gets sent back in time, "it" encounters a hooker and takes her shape for (most of)the rest of the movie. Just like the cop outfit last time? I bet in this movie J. Conner spends most of his time chasing "her," and she, bombarded by a bunch drunk guys, never gets a clear chance to kill him.

    12. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      And a female terminator? Does no one else see something wrong with that. I sincerely hope they didn't just do that for lame PC reasons.

      No, they did it for the laughs. You just know there's going to be a scene where some dude (or group of dudes) tries to pick her up or rape her and she'll kick ass and everyone in the movie theatre will cheer.

    13. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Geekwad · · Score: 1

      But this terminator isn't shape-shifting.. So it was designed to be a female.. Not like the T-1000 which could take any shape it wanted.

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    14. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Geekwad · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I really think they could've done without such things. I mean.. we've seen it all before. Like.. wow, people think it's a real person but .. WHOA! It's a cyborg! Watch out guys! Those pool sticks won't do much to a CYBORG! Tee hee! He's gonna kick your ass! -- yeah, it's been done.

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    15. Re:What's WRONG with you people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure you wont be sleeping with anyone. Even if your some leader of resistance forces, she'd kill you pretty quick.

      no seXor for you.

  33. Terminator designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was going to refer to the trailer myself, this morning - but I never did - anywho:

    Does anyone feel that the stylings of the original skynet army has been lost, with the new designs?

    That small hunterkiller (in the corridor) and that thing on wheels (T-105) doesnt look "shynet" to me. The old designs were all much more mechanical to the look. The new ones consist of amorphic forms, and seem to have a style of their own. Somehow, they're just not that intimidating. They look like something sony would have produced. Hell, Nr 5 is scarier than that thing

    The T-800, the original hunterkiller and hunterkiller tank were much more intimidating.

    Dont even get me started on TX.

  34. Re:or is it they're by mrdscholl · · Score: 1

    its been a long day

  35. on the bright side... check out her OS. by commodoresloat · · Score: 2

    According to the trailer, the new Terminator is called the "T-X." Maybe she's running OS X?

    1. Re:on the bright side... check out her OS. by C0LDFusion · · Score: 1

      Yes, but when we get to Terminator 4, it'll be T-XP. And finally, in Terminator 5, Skynet switches to T-inux.

      Skynet's open source Terminator will have a team of programmers finding bugs and won't crash. SourceForge will be single-handedly responsible for the downfall of humanity.

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    2. Re:on the bright side... check out her OS. by Zak3056 · · Score: 3, Funny

      http://www.apple.com/switch

      So, like, I tried to sent an assassin robot back in time and it was like "beep beep..."

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    3. Re:on the bright side... check out her OS. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2

      Female Terminator? No way - she's gotta be running HK/OS (Hello Kitty OS)!

    4. Re:on the bright side... check out her OS. by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 1

      So, like, I tried to sent an assassin robot back in time and it was like "beep beep..."

      just spewed muffin and coffee all over my monitor, thank you very much!

  36. Don't cry for Arnold by core+plexus · · Score: 1
    I'm laughing at these people talking about how old Arnold is. Lift up your shirt and take a look at yourself. Think you look better than Arnold, who is probably old enough to be your Granddad? You don't. I'd like to see a poll here regarding fitness, or the lack of exercise. An honest poll.

    Truth Hurts.

    1. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 2

      > I'm laughing at these people talking about how old Arnold is. Lift up your shirt and take a look at yourself. Think you look better than Arnold, who is probably old enough to be your Granddad? You don't. I'd like to see a poll here regarding fitness, or the lack of exercise. An honest poll.

      A poll would be nice except....

      This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.

    2. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      The real reason he shouldn't be in this one (and shouldn't have been in T2 either) is that it is stupid for terminators to look alike. Reese said the terminators were infiltration units, and their main feature over an earlier model was that they were so hard to spot. From a plot point of view, recycling Arnie in Terminator movies is even dumber than reusing Sigourney in Alien movies. Nothing personal against the actors -- it just doesn't make sense.

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    3. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by KCRWreck · · Score: 1

      I'll repeat to you what my father told me when I asked him whether he could catch a ball that an outfielder dropped:
      "No one is paying me to make those plays."

      I wouldn't be the one replacing Arnie, but I'll bet there are 1000 muscle-bound actors that can not only replace him but can do a better job.

    4. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by dpt · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't Arnold's level of fitness, which I'm sure is fine.

      It's that robots don't age, and Arnie clearly has. Unless they can grow the outer "skin" to look like different ages, or something, which leads to another big problem (apart from just "why bother?") - the "two terminators looking the same" bug ...

      This was something I could forgive T2 for (as it was generally quite good). You would never make the outer "skin" of two terminators look alike. It would defeat the whole purpose, unless you were sure that two human resistence "cells" weren't communicating ... but why bother? They would clearly just be all different.

      Finally, this leads into the lameness of the "kill the young John Connor with time travel" story. Again? Clearly, *this* movie should be set in the future, showing the war. If you absolutely had to have Arnold in it, it could be as the human that "our" particular terminator design was based on. It would explain the aging, and would lead to a nice setup where we *think* he's a terminator early on, and it turns out he's just a human. Which would be reminiscent of the good guy/bad guy switch that occurred early on in T2.

    5. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by core+plexus · · Score: 2
      I don't intend to be an asshole, or a lawyer, but you defeated your own argument. Observe:

      "It's that robots don't age, and Arnie clearly has." Didn't Robin Williams (sorry-bear with me) in Bicentennial Man" age? Or whatshisname in AI (sorry, again). I say we create robots (and I'm still holding out for an interface for my computer like Andromeda or the Borg Queen), we can age them if we so desire. Look at Data (STNG).

      Then: "You would never make the outer "skin" of two terminators look alike. It would defeat the whole purpose, unless you were sure that two human resistence "cells" weren't communicating ... but why bother? They would clearly just be all different."

      Sadamm Hussein aside,(and all his surgical "clones") given the primitive technology of the present, I believe you could make 10,000 terminators, albiet with less distinctive features than Arnold and they'll all get away with whatever you task them to do. People have faulty memory, and people and technology, especially primitive technology, is easily compromised.

      I don't intend to write a paper on this subject here, but suffice to say the info is available out there. I appreciate that we have the opportunity to have this stimulating exchange. Thank you.

    6. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by dpt · · Score: 1

      but you defeated your own argument

      No, because you would want different looking robots, but not two looking the same, but at different ages! Not for the sort of infiltration/kill-em-all mission shown in T1. None of these robots would be able to pass for human long enough for "non-aging" to be a problem, they simply don't behave very "human" at all and aren't able to live as, and with, humans. Building auto-aging abilities would be a waste until they were able to behave "human" as well. "I'll be back" just isn't going to fool anyone :)

      Didn't Robin Williams (sorry-bear with me) in Bicentennial Man" age? Or whatshisname in AI [snip] Look at Data (STNG)

      All these cases are long term relationships with humans. No terminator could manage that.

      People have faulty memory, and people and technology, especially primitive technology, is easily compromised

      But the resistence would be distributing photos, with the caption "Beware this man!!". So memory doesn't come into it. All the guards and soldiers would recognize Arnie on sight. They *have* to look like completely different people. Every one. It's clearly an error in T2 that this wasn't explained, but I can live with it.

    7. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFLMAO. I want to see the results of that poll.

      I was disappointed in the trailer. The few seconds they showed really look like T2 all over.

      It looks like it might be worth watching when it hits HBO. If they keep it up, maybe they can screw it up as bad as Highlander.

      Hmmm - Does Skynet run Linux or NT/2000?

      Can a T3 thread get turned into a holy war?

    8. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by biglig2 · · Score: 2

      It always seemed to me to be not unreasonable that they make Terminators is small batches that look the same (this would seem an efficency in getting the most out of a design without having them all the same), and that the Future John has acquired just one batch.

      No, what bothers me about the plot of all three is that no-one has had the entirely obvious idea of taking a phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range, coating it with terminator skin, and sending that back with the terminator.

      (Mutters to one self "fiction....real life....fiction...real life")

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    9. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words, you read the latest Terminator novel (at least it was the latest as of a few months ago), in which a female terminator was sent back in time to fix everything that went wrong in T2. (Building a small gang of terminators herfelf with cpu's brought back from the future.) Sarah and John find the template for the 'Arnold' Terminator, who turns out to be a good guy.

    10. Re:Don't cry for Arnold by dpt · · Score: 1

      In other words, you read the latest Terminator novel

      I didn't even know there were such things.

      Sarah and John find the template for the 'Arnold' Terminator, who turns out to be a good guy

      What can I say? Great minds think alike, perhaps ;)

      It's still a much better and interesting way to get Arnold into the plot, than having him be the terminator again.

  37. Direct Link by FAH+Q+AUSS+HOLES · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Direct Link by marcushnk · · Score: 1

      AArrrgghh nooo!

      Quick! Summon the army of Lawyers!
      You've just circumvented the DCMA!!!

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    2. Re:Direct Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that sig a reference to the shahadah?

  38. Re:Slashdot Top Members (Updated 8pm Tonight) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You shouldn't put a link to your profile in there, Erik; some pissed off moderator(s) might decide to mob all your logged-in trolls down a bit.

  39. Re:YOU FAIL IT! by psoriac · · Score: 0, Troll

    What new variation to the IN SOVIET RUSSIA line is this?

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  40. some backup evidence by lingqi · · Score: 1, Interesting
    from movie-page.com, updated Dec 12, 2002:

    Rocky VI: MGM is nearing a final deal with Sylvester Stallone to write, star in and produce another "Rocky" installment, which will return the franchise to its indie-style roots. THR sources close to MGM say that -- given the right script -- the studio and Stallone hope to continue that trend with a "Rocky VI" budgeted in the $10-$15 million range. The story line for "Rocky VI" would find Stallone as a 50-year-old Rocky Balboa who is now at work running a youth center. He is lured out of retirement from the ring for one last fight (...again).

    So, yeah... another Rocky.

    I think personally that even after Stallone dies, they will CGI him and make more Rocky films (They are doing this to Bruce Lee, btw). Maybe until the universe implodes, will we finally get a rest?

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    1. Re:some backup evidence by Wobbly+Bob · · Score: 1
      I think personally that even after Stallone dies, they will CGI him and make more Rocky films

      ...and now, Pongo's review of Rocky Five ... Thousand. Pongo?

    2. Re:some backup evidence by haggar · · Score: 1

      So, you're of the opinion the universe will, after all, implode? ;o)
      Have you got evidence of the existence of the "dark matter", to make up for the necessary mass?

      BTW, I agree with your view of the sequels. I thought ALL the Alien sequels were lame compared to the original. Actually, Terminator 2 was the only good sequel I can think of, ever. Let me think......
      NO, I was wrong, the Godfather trilogy is totally awesome. But I think that's really it.

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    3. Re:some backup evidence by haggar · · Score: 1

      OK, here IS another sequel that was really good: Evil Dead III. Both Evil Dead II and III were great, even though very different in concept, available budget and style. Evil Dead I, well, I don't really count that one in the series, it was more a (good) proof of concept.

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    4. Re:some backup evidence by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 2

      Empire Strikes Back?
      Back to the Future, PII?
      The Two Towers?
      Max Max: Road Warrior?

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    5. Re:some backup evidence by haggar · · Score: 1

      Didn't like any of those movies. I mean, not only the sequel, but the original movies. I didn't see Two Towers yet, so I reserve my judgement on that.
      But I did watch the whole Mad Max series, the Star Wars series and Back to the Future series... really NOT my type of movies. And certainly not SciFi. Star Wars? Western in space. bah

      In fact, I have none of those movies in my otherwise rather large DVD collection.
      sorry to disappoint you.

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    6. Re:some backup evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars? Western in space. bah
      In fact, I have none of those movies in my otherwise rather large DVD collection.

      Be kinda hard to have Star Wars in your DVD collection. Hasn't been released yet.

    7. Re:some backup evidence by Sketch · · Score: 1
      Actually, Terminator 2 was the only good sequel I can think of, ever.

      I always considered it more of a remake than a sequel. Watch the two back to back and you'll see that almost every major scene in T1 is redone in T2, some in almost identical ways.

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    8. Re:some backup evidence by haggar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OK, that sentence, well, it was more my thinking aloud. Of course Terminator 2 is NOT the only good sequel ever. I think it is one of the better sequels, but as I added later, the Godfather trilogy, Evil Dead II and III, 2010 as a sequel to 2001 is very good (although 2001 is outstanding), Sergio Leone's "Man without a name" trilogy... yeah, I have met some worthy sequels, and now you make me regret for thinking aloud for a moment. You're not being quite fair ;o)

      Now, to your point: I totally agree! They didn't develop all that much on the basic idea, now did they? However, the reason I enjoyed Terminator 2 was in part because I found interesting the idea that humans managed to utilize their enemie's weapon, by reprogramming it, I liked the idea of Arnold switching sides, and the new model of Terminator - a shape shifter. And I thought it was really well directed and visually appeasing. So, it had a few things going for it.

      However, a third remake, which actually doesn't seem to bring nothing new compared to Terminator 2? No thanks. I'll maybe see it on TV when it comes out in a few years, out of curiosity. Maybe.

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  41. Read the FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the Slashdot FAQ, fucktard.

  42. WTF? How Does This Happen? by Myriad · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Can someone tell me how my post could have been scored 5, then down to 4, without a -1 showing up in the moderation totals?

    As of when I wrote this:
    Moderation Totals: Insightful=2, Total=2 for a current score of 4. But:

    Moderation of "Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5" sent by Slashdot Message System on 08:23 PM December 18th, 2002

    A user has given a Insightful (+1) moderation to your comment, Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5, attached to Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines. Your comment is currently scored (5).

    And:
    * Moderation of "Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5" 08:21 PM December 18th, 2002
    * Moderation of "Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5" 08:21 PM December 18th, 2002
    * Moderation of "Err, Maybe It Should Be Terminator 2.5" 08:23 PM December 18th, 2002

    Now that's some funky Slashdot math...

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    1. Re:WTF? How Does This Happen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You lose a point by commenting directly to your own post.

      oooh the paradox. you posted from the future..how very on-topic.

  43. One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My gf is far more openminded ;-)

    1. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by unicron · · Score: 2

      I agree.

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    2. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with this post.

    3. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Insightful!

    4. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by rscrawford · · Score: 1

      ...and my wife will probably be grabbing me out of work early on opening day. :)

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    5. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by computer_redneck · · Score: 1

      >>My gf is far more openminded ;-)

      My Fiance' and I saw Nemesis and we will probably go see this as well. Though we did go and see Kate and Leopold.

      Computer Redneck
      Squeal like a pig for me.

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    6. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm married to a geek. Not only does she appreciate sci fi, she can do simple Unix system administration duties. I am SO in love.

    7. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your OXY 10 bills must be through the roof...

    8. Re:One of the disadvantages of YOUR girlfriend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dont need to call him a she, marriage among homosexuals is possible in most civilized countries.

  44. boobz? by binarybum · · Score: 1


    What in the world does a super high tech killing machine from the future need boobs for? I have no problem with breasts, I'm sure they're great fun, but with the artiliry that robot is packing I hardly see the need for seduction or milk production so what gives? Perhaps they'll be justified as detachable missiles like in an episode of Voltron I recall (this might be the only audience in the world where someone might actually recognize that reference).
    I'm hoping that the hairspray of the future isn't flamable too, because she seems to have a lot of it and with all those sparks flying around, trouble is abrewin' (Ahhh!! my hair heater!).

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    1. Re:boobz? by psychogentoo · · Score: 1


      maybe the boobs are like the ones on the "Fembots" in Austin Powers...the extra boobage is for the ammo?

      mmmm...extra ammo.

    2. Re:boobz? by wikthemighty · · Score: 1

      All the spare metal taken to reduce the body from Arnold-size had to go somewhere.

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    3. Re:boobz? by brucehappy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you are referring to a cartoon called Tranzor-Z....the female looking mechs were always launching said rockets.

    4. Re:boobz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FEMBOTS!!!!!!

    5. Re:boobz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>I have no problem with breasts, I'm sure they're great fun

      Haven't seen any up close lately, have you?

    6. Re:boobz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      athf! yes!
      (#adultswim on dalnet)

    7. Re:boobz? by illmedia · · Score: 1

      I have 3 words for you:

      It's. A. Movie.

      Quit analyzing so much and either see it. Or don't...

    8. Re:boobz? by DreamTheater · · Score: 1

      Funny...not only am I a die-hard Voltron fan...I actually suggested to my wife last night that the new terminator is female so that her boobz can detatch as missiles. This is presumably to get around the T1000's deficit of not being able to morph into complex machinery.

    9. Re:boobz? by binarybum · · Score: 1
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  45. Trained in destroying. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Its trained in destroying other cybernetic organisms."

    You mean, it takes T-1000's and sends them off to be on the X-Files?

    I'd hardly call that "destroying".

    But then, I'd call anyone who could banish a T-800 to the world of Last Action Hero to be one mean bitch.

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  46. Nevermind... by Myriad · · Score: 2

    Oh, nevermind.. the system just sent me an "Undo Moderation" message. I'd never heard of that one before... sorry!

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    1. Re:Nevermind... by ag3n7 · · Score: 1

      I believe it happens when a moderator decides to post in a thread...

      All moderations are undone.

  47. Johnny Five Alive?! by Cadre · · Score: 4, Informative

    Speaking about bots from this movie. The conceptual art of one of the robots looks remarkedly similar to a character from an older movie...

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    1. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by Malicious · · Score: 1

      JOhnny5 Meets Shockwave

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    2. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by mgs1000 · · Score: 2

      Seems to be an evolution of Shockwave, the Decepticon. I wonder if it transforms into a ray gun.

    3. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like one of the cyborgs in Marathon (old Mac game; kinda like doom with a storyline), minus the humanoid head. Does it shoot bouncing grenades too?

    4. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by KnightStalker · · Score: 2

      Guess we're all confused. It reminded me of Maximilian from The Black Hole. :-)

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    5. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't have thought so. Shokwave could only transform into a tape deck, making it the most boring Transformer to play with. Ravage and Laserbeak, which transformed from tapes into a panther and flying bird/laser shooting thing were prety cool though.

      Goblin

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    6. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by mgs1000 · · Score: 1

      That was Soundwave! And I agree, those tapes were waaay cooler than the tape deck.

    7. Re:Johnny Five Alive?! by Loligo · · Score: 1

      I was thinking one of the players from Cyberball, the old arcade robot football game...

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  48. No Cameron by Patik · · Score: 5, Informative

    James Cameron is not in this one. Maybe that's why it doesn't look so good?

  49. Cameron's not at the helm this time... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better than that.

    James Cameron is sitting this one out, AFAIK. He didn't direct this one, and I think he only got writing credit on the IMDB listing because he has to, since he created the characters.

    I think he felt there was no need for another sequel. To a degree, I agree with him. But on the other hand, I'm looking forward to checking out the continuation of the story on the big screen.

    I'm so dying for a continuation of the story, in fact, that I've devoured the books that have been written to do so. There are two so far by S.M. Stirling, and one so far by Russell Blackford. They are not related to what's going to happen in Terminator 3, they take different paths. Having read all of them, it takes a little effort to keep the storylines straight. But it's definitely worth it-- the books make reference to the most minute details mentioned or seen in the movies, which (obsessive Terminator fan that I am) I find very satisfying.

    ~Philly

  50. The reason why this is a poor movie by acehole · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, for the benefit of the people who havent really looked into this movie I'll provide the following information.

    First off, I was quite interested in this movie so I found out if James Cameron was directing it, he is not... my interest dropped a fair bit.

    Secondly, they tried to get Linda Hamilton to reprise her role as Sarah, she refused to do it after looking at the script. Not a good sign.

    I've looked at the storyline, and this sounds shockingly familiar to a fanscript I read back in '98. Although there are a couple of differences, the overall plot is exactly the same.

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    1. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Linda Hamilton thing worries me the most.

      James Cameron can get another job that pays assloads of money, but what the hell is Linda Hamilton going to do that would pay as much?

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    2. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by Swanktastic · · Score: 1
      Secondly, they tried to get Linda Hamilton to reprise her role as Sarah, she refused to do it after looking at the script. Not a good sign.

      Not to push celebrity gossip too much on Slashdot, but it probably has more to do with their divorce after he cheated on her than the script...

    3. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by acehole · · Score: 2

      Actually, that didnt have anything to do with it, there were two reasons why she refused to do the movie, one was that after looking at the script she wasnt happy that her character wasnt being taken in any new directions.

      The other reason was that James Cameron was not directing, she didnt want to be involved in the project unless he was directing.

      I guess the whole cheating thing is water under the bridge.

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    4. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Informative

      James Cameron can get another job that pays assloads of money, but what the hell is Linda Hamilton going to do that would pay as much?

      She already finished that project, it was called "Divorcing James Cameron."

      She pulled in big bucks for that one, whew!

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    5. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by oneirogen · · Score: 1

      > Secondly, they tried to get Linda Hamilton to > reprise her role as Sarah, she refused to do it > after looking at the script. Not a good sign. especially considering the last movie she was in that did any business was...well, terminator 2... --

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    6. Re:The reason why this is a poor movie by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      Secondly, they tried to get Linda Hamilton to reprise her role as Sarah, she refused to do it after looking at the script. Not a good sign.

      Am I the only person who thought she was cute in both Beauty & The Beast and T2?

  51. Or... 1.5? by Xformer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I seem to recall that, in the 2nd movie, they stopped the whole time loop (which would take an act of divinity or Hollywood to create) that brought SkyNet into being in the first place. I guess they'll have some explanation in the movie where it wasn't REALLY ended, or something...

    In a way, I guess it's kind of like all of the Highlander sequels (with the obvious exception of #2)... Connor has the prize, then he doesn't, then he does, then he doesn't, then Duncan eventually kills him and they both get nothing.

    Every law of time and space shattered into itty bitty pieces, all for The Almighty Buck.

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    1. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      once you still missing with timelines things get confusing. if you go back in time and kill your-younger-self doesnt the instance of your-present-self cease to exist or is it seperate now because it has 'forked' the timeline.

      so in relation to t2 the alternate future where skynet reigns supreme could still be going while the new timeline (with no skynet could be starting)... oh no, ive gone cross-eyed!

    2. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe before skynet sent the t1000 back, they sent this chick not-as-far-back and then sent the t1000 back after she failed (from skynet's point of view).

      this is time travel! if you want to have a prequel that actually takes place AFTER the first two movies, that's okay!

    3. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I seem to recall that, in the 2nd movie, they stopped the whole time loop (which would take an act of divinity or Hollywood to create) that brought SkyNet into being in the first place. I guess they'll have some explanation in the movie where it wasn't REALLY ended, or something...

      In the first movie, the terminator lost an arm, which started the time loop. In the second movie, this arm was destroyed. But remember that he had lost another arm 10 minutes before that (it's still jammed in a gear somewhere when the movie ends).

      But it's just a movie, try not to think about it too much... (in T2 John realizes this doesn't make any sense and says something like "it really messes with your head")

    4. Re:Or... 1.5? by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 3, Informative

      Only problem is, they didn't destroy the Terminator's arm, that was torn off in the giant gear. They destroyed the arm that was left by the original Terminator, but Arnie only had one arm when he took the molten lead bath. There's still an arm (and thus a chip) floating around somewhere. Hence, the ability to make a sequel.

    5. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      One minor little problemo, the chip wasn't in the *ARM* the CHIP was in the TORSO, which DID get destroyed, so while they have an arm floating around somewhere in the steelmill, the chips are both gone, unless of course they have a plot twist, like a schematic from the chip, or the chip really being a fake and the real one was held somewhere else for just such an occurance happening.

    6. Re:Or... 1.5? by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2

      Wow, you really seem pretty sure about how these theoretical time loops work - perhaps you should be a physicist? :-)

      Consider this: if they stopped the time loop, then Skynet wouldn't exist. So no Terminators. So no-one to come back and stop the time-loop. Which never happened. Except it did, but one of the Terminators helped stop it, so it didn't. But Terminators don't exist, because the time loop was stopped.

      And so on.

      It's just a story :-)

      Tim

    7. Re:Or... 1.5? by Dimensio · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if they'll introudce a plot device as outlandish and unbelievable as Cyberdyne keeping offsite backups.

      Naah. Too unbelievable.

    8. Re:Or... 1.5? by Schnapple · · Score: 2
      Well back when I saw T2 I knew they could make a sequel. When Cyberdyne was destoyed, then the Terminators couldn't exist, like you said. So at that point in time the T-1000 should have disappeared. As well as the T-800. But they didn't, so that means they still existed, so something happened to make sure Cyberdyne still made terminators.

      This reminds me of the line in Austin Powers 2 where when he thinks of time travel too much his brain freezes up.

      The great part about science fiction is that nothing has to make sense or have any continuity, and people still like it. Can't really do that with period pieces or westerns. But 50 novels about Kirk and Picard kicking ass throughout the universe? Sign me up!

    9. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unless of course you consider the possibility that time is not a self-correcting single continueum, but is a multiverse branching off and leaving pocket universes lying around for things that migh have happened. Please go easy on my spelling/grammer, i'm drunk.

    10. Re:Or... 1.5? by jez9999 · · Score: 2

      HAHAHAHA! Hilarious :-) I did think it was a bit funny that shooting the crap out of some guy's computer could stop all future development of computer chips.

    11. Re:Or... 1.5? by jgerman · · Score: 2
      The great part about science fiction is that nothing has to make sense or have any continuity


      Err no. The definition of science fiction means that things DO have to make sense. There has to be real science or resonably justified extrapolation of current science in order for something to qualify as science fiction.


      Star Trek (and Wars) is Science Fantasy. Not that there's anything wrong with that (if you discount incredibly bad television and movies in the case of ST) but it is NOT Science Fiction.

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    12. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no chip left. The chip came from the remains of the original terminator's head. So all that is left is the arm.

    13. Re:Or... 1.5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Chip is in the cranium, not the arm.
      The chip off the first terminator was in the steel, and then Arnie took the plunge.

      What I don't get is if Skynet was never produced because the chips didnt exist, and the creator saw otherwise, then the future should have changed so that it wasnt possible...

      Don't you just LOVE temporal paradoxes?
      (go watch a few hundred Dr. Who episodes!)

    14. Re:Or... 1.5? by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 1

      Isn't there a robot that get's prominently mentioned called the T-1? T-1 looks primitive, like it was made in the present day. T-1 T-800 [Arnie] T-1000 [Robert Patrick].

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    15. Re:Or... 1.5? by Phantasmo · · Score: 1

      Here's how it'll actually go:
      at the end of the film, it'll turn out that the whole Terminator/Skynet thing was only Sarah Conner (who's still a child) having a nightmare.

      The next day at school, she draws a bunch of pictures of Terminators. Miles Dyson comes to the school to pick up his son, sees the pictures and gets the idea to develop the chips, which results in Skynet...

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  52. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by Graff · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    you needed to use your +1 bonus for that? post responsibly.

    That looked pretty damn responsible to me, way to use that +1 bonus ciurana!
  53. OMG OMG OMG!!! by tcc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who's been waiting for T3??

    I know that T2 is *MY* cult movie.

    - Superb effects at the time (one of the first heavy-3d film actually and one of the few with a good storyline, especially with the crap coming out since a few years

    - Superb storyline (for an action movie)

    - Superb ending (something that Hollywood is usually good at screwing up (dragonheart comes to mind) on of the main hero "DIES", something you won't see often, because good guys always live and win with hollywood.

    - Overall, one of the best rounded movies in the 90s, I have yet to see a movie that will sustain me that much all long and heck even make me cry at the end (another rare thing with action movies, or totally screwed up that makes you want to laugh (or cry because you lost 10$ :) )

    Heck if T3 would be just 1/2 as good as T2 was, I'd pay 50$ to see it!

    Producers relying on 3D renderings should always look at T2 to learn how to balance that technology, I never seen anything that was as balanced as T2 in the 90s; the CGI effects were coexisting with the storyline (and not only being a CGI festival covering the rest that would be crap, like Hollywood is selling nowadays).

    Can't wait.

    Heck while at it, why not announce Neuromancer the movie, that would make my day! :)

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    1. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by MrEd · · Score: 2
      why not announce Neuromancer the movie, that would make my day! :)
      Hey, it came out a few years ago! Yes, I know it totally lacks the cyberpunkish and philosophical bent of Neuromancer. Unfortunately it stole its fire and any attempt to do a Neuromancer movie would have audiences crying 'matrix ripoff'.


      All that bellyaching being said, I hope someone does take the risk and do it up! Or "Snow Crash" for that matter.

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    2. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Rew190 · · Score: 2
      - Superb ending


      This is why I already don't like T3. T2 did indeed have a great ending, and an emotional one at that. There was a very good sense of closure, and now that's ruined a bit, unless T3 blows me away. With the coming of this new movie, the impact of that ending is going to be decreased. T3 will probably have the same kind of plot- Terminator tries to kill Connor, Connor and co try to take out Skynet.


      Does anyone else think the female terminator is a bit of a cliche Hollywood trick? Why does Connor look like a thin nerd when in T2 we see him ripped and ready for war? Why didn't they get Eddie Furlong?


      I fear that this movie will detract from the series as a whole. Much like the Alien movies, folks will say "Oh yeah, they were decent movies, but 3 and 4 sucked."


      Please, prove me wrong T3.

    3. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Mitreya · · Score: 2
      I have very similar feelings about T2... (dunno about crying, but the plot was good... and action/special effects were good...) big rarity.

      Seeing that Cameron is no longer in on this one and that the movie is no longer about the future and skynet but rather a rehash (T1000 replaced with T-X, but other than that I see no changes... and while reuse is good, futuristic skynet fighting would fit better with the series I think...). Note that T2 was not simply a rehash of T1 since the idea was *different*. I was wondering about T3 for a while (and the best I came up with was to have T-1000 protecting John Connor this time :)

      I am no longer so optimistic

    4. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by tbmaddux · · Score: 4, Interesting
      T2 flowed naturally from the end of T1 (moreso if you watch the T1 DVD and see the deleted scenes that explicitly name the factory where the first terminator was crushed). I'd always wondered "what the hell happened to those smashed bits of Terminator?"

      Plus it sets up a classic time travel conundrum: Terminator goes back in time to kill the mother of its enemy, fails and is destroyed, but its broken bits become the very meme that result in the creation of Skynet. T2 twists that around so that another terminator has to terminate itself in order to prevent Skynet's creation.

      T2 was also profoundly anti-violent (not non-violent, anti-violent) for an action film. It was the only Schwarzenegger film to date in which he killed no people (I would have said nobody but he did kill the T-1000 and himself). And Sarah's dream was pretty damn scary! T2 still stands as an all-time S.F. film favorite of mine.

      T3 has none of that appeal. At best T3 looks like it could be good in the same way that Star Trek IV was. Fun, winking at itself. Probably best ignored by serious fans, and it could really really suck.

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    5. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by PaddyM · · Score: 2

      It couldn't have been that good. I remember laughing every time I saw Terminator 2 doing anything because of how Robert Patrick was so robotic. And how he always WALKED when everyone else was RUNNING, but he actually started RUNNING when other people were DRIVING.

      And every time he said, "...NOO" I just had to chuckle.

    6. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by j3ss · · Score: 1

      O.K., Neuromancer the movie (in case you didn't know) has been in the planning stages for a loooong time. Here is a Link. That provides a lot of good information.

      And for those of you who have not read the actual William Gibson book, NEUROMANCER, here is a link to an online version of it, go here.

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    7. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $.50 says the "OMG" guy is probably 13. Or 12. Sounds more like 12.

    8. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by rseuhs · · Score: 2
      Oh, come on, T2 was just like T1, only with better effects, a much, much worse story and Arnie switching sides.

      It's the very same scheme:

      1) Evil terminator is sent back to kill Connor.

      2) Good guy is sent back to protect her/him.

      3) Evil terminator and good guy die.

      The end.

      T1 was great because of the man-against-machine paradigm and because the Terminator was intimidating, but still not invulnerable (he got quite messed up after that carwreck) while the T-1000 is pretty much undestructible by conventional means and is still 100% operational 15 minutes before the end of the movie.

    9. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by ThrasherTT · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how The Matrix and Neuromancer overlap except for the fact that both contain an AI. I, for one, wouldn't even begin to think "Matrix ripoff" if Neuromancer were to be made into a movie... a dark, 'realistic' future featuring a drug-addled anti-hero and a souped-up hot chick? I mean, sure... it has cyberspace, but Neuromancer's vision of cyberspace isn't one of a place where people hang out and pretend like it's reality... its a shitty visual representation of data, more like the Matrix screensaver than the Matrix in the movie.

      I'd almost rather see Neuromancer made into a miniseries, as the writers would have more screen time to play with, and there would be less risk to the producers.

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    10. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Furlong is in rehab, from what I've been told, and is too strung out to do the role. I'm gonna take the movie for what it is, a good excuse to watch stuff blow up, which is all I pretty much go to a movie for anyway.

      p0d (on vacation)

    11. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Succa · · Score: 2

      Does anyone else think the female terminator is a bit of a cliche Hollywood trick?

      Four words: The Next Karate Kid

    12. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by canadian_right · · Score: 2

      Surely you meant "Johnny Mnemonic", the so so movie made from the William Gibson short story of the same name. That was 1995, a wee bit before the Matrix. Sony's web site: Johhny Mnmenic

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    13. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's been waiting for T3??

      I was, until I heard what the plot was going to be. ;-)

      I know that T2 is *MY* cult movie.

      Anything that makes over a hundred million dollars isn't a cult movie.

    14. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by haggar · · Score: 2

      Can't wait.


      Please do wait. Think: maybe this movie is not worth your time, maybe it sucks? Maybe it's a carbon copy of Terminator 2?

      Maybe, just maybe, you are not a headless sheep that will be brought to watch whatever shit Hollywood poops out just to get to your buck?

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    15. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by gslj · · Score: 1

      Rseuhs writes:

      " Oh, come on, T2 was just like T1, only with better effects, a much, much worse story and Arnie switching sides.

      It's the very same scheme:

      1) Evil terminator is sent back to kill Connor.

      2) Good guy is sent back to protect her/him.

      3) Evil terminator and good guy die.

      The end. "

      Wrong. In the first movie, we had an enemy that was indestructable because it was so strong, so hard. When I heard that a sequel was coming, I was pretty sceptical about it. We'd done the ultimate strength thing: what could be stronger than that? The answer turned out to be really Taoist: water is stronger than rock; liquid is stronger than steel. Thus, the T100 kicked Arnie's butt.

      Cameron might have come up with something similarly ingenious for T3, but I've no faith in anyone else doing it. And, from the fact that Cameron isn't involved, I guess he hasn't come up with any great ideas for it, either.

      -Gareth

    16. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Spunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's a fascinating analysis of the Terminator time travel issues here. Other movies are covered on the site as well.

    17. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by vidnet · · Score: 2
      Who's been waiting for T3??

      It has been my dream for years. Currently I'm on dialup.

    18. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Eil · · Score: 2


      I think Snow Crash made into a movie would have about as much critical success as Sphere did. Great book on both counts, but too much is lost in the transition to the big screen. Plus, directors tend to get special-effect-happy with these kinds of stories.

    19. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by .sig · · Score: 2

      Actually, even the T-1000 was not invulnerable. In the special edition DVD with the restored scenes you can see the effects of the battle on it. (possibly it was only due to the freezing sequence, but it is still a weakness) In the last 15 minutes of the end it is far from 100% operational, and in fact is having quite a bit of difficulty controlling it's shape.
      (For the record, this is how John knew which one was his mother when confronted by twin Sarah's. The terminator's feet were morphing to match the floor, something that few humans are capable of)

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    20. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by vectra14 · · Score: 1

      heck omg wow like this movie like wow T3 like heck omg machines wow heck like :-)

      "- Overall, one of the best rounded movies in the 90s, I have yet to see a movie that will sustain me that much all long and heck even make me cry at the end (another rare thing with action movies, or totally screwed up that makes you want to laugh (or cry because you lost 10$ :) )"

      try.. i don't know.. requiem for a dream? or american beauty? or a non-american movie (yes, those do exist, believe it or not)

    21. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by rseuhs · · Score: 2
      Well, that whole ending scene is nonsense anyway.

      There is this T-1000 which can run as fast as a small motorbike with only one objective: Kill John Connor. Then John Connor stands before him, just 3 meters away, yet he doesn't just catch him, he continues to cry for help, why?

      Then after Sarah runs out of ammo he's waving his index finger. What was that for? Does he have an ego?

      No, I'll stick to my opinion: T1 was great, T2 was crap.

    22. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Kallahar · · Score: 2

      Just to clarify, that's not really a connundrum, it just implies that existence is scripted and pre-determined. Therefore I choose to not believe in time travel :) Unless, of course, it is in the style of Orson Scott Card's Pastwatch which is first plausible time travel theory I've seen.

      Travis

    23. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      T1 is one of my all time favorite movies, but I found T2 to be a huge disappointment. It has an excellent storyline and *great* action sequences (the initial confrontation between the Terminators was incredible), but it was hard to take seriously because of the following:

      1) The Terminator was written to act more human as the movie progressed. This was an afterthought on the part of the writers... he was originally going to be more like he was in T1 and they decided they needed to add more emotion to the story. I have no problem with that in theory, but its execution was messy... everyone in the theater laughed at lines like "Why do human's cry?" and "I understand now why humans cry".

      2) Sarah's monologues sounded totally forced and were uneeded.

      3) The ending was total cheese. The T1 saying "I have to go John" and Sarah shaking his hand made me and much of the theater groan.

      4) There were too many attempts at levity. Arnold saying "I need a vacation" was just awful. "Bad to the Bone" playing after the bar was slightly amusing, but I would've much prefered the gripping "Dunt dunt dunt dunt. Dunt dunt dunt dunt." music that was used so much in the first movie.

      Overall, the movie didn't have the same intensity of the first one... with the above changes, it would've. Someone needed to make a renegade edit!

    24. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Why didn't they get Eddie Furlong?

      Apparently they considered getting him back early on, but some genius decided he wasn't right for the role. (!?!) So they cast someone else instead, evidently in hopes of making John Connor seem tougher or whatever.

      Granted, last movie I saw Edward Furlong in, he did look like he was still in his teens...

      --mark

    25. Re:OMG OMG OMG!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe the overwhelming sentiment on ./ is that T2 is 1) considered "a good movie" and 2) considered better than Terminator. T2 just basically stole the exciting thrill and feeling you got of being chased by an unstoppable machine that Terminator had introduced and spruced it up with higher budget effects. Additionally they softened it up to target a slightly younger audience giving it wider apeal. But better, I say nay. The first movie is much grittier and has a stronger theme, which is mostly neutered in T2. Sheesh, geeks flock to Robot on Robot violence as if it were girl on girl sex. The writers of T3 will probably read this and bingo bango they have a concept for T4 girl on girl termintor action!.

  54. Terminator 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Model F-69

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  55. identical terminators unwise by ColGraff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What, you think all the Terminators look alike? They were created by Skynet, remember, to infiltrate human enclaves. If every single Terminator is a tall white scary guy who looks like Ahnold, then they're no good for covert infiltration. The "hot female" chassis is probably just one of many designs for the pre-T1000 series, with, yes, the added advantage that a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator.

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    1. Re:identical terminators unwise by RumpRoast · · Score: 1

      Are there Terminator conventions? I bet it's just a side booth at the Trek shows.

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    2. Re:identical terminators unwise by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1

      So why are the Arnold Terminators the only ones these futuristic nimrods can capture and reprogram? How about a black female Terminator coming back to save John Conner next time. Maybe Oprah could play the part. As for the female terminator, I hope her breasts are missile launchers like Aphrodite X in Tranzor Z. Otherwise, what is the point, they're just obstructions and are not logical to have on a cyborg.

    3. Re:identical terminators unwise by Rew190 · · Score: 2

      a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator.

      Whenever the bad terminators "manipulated" a human, it was to kill/try to kill them. The only deviation I can think of is when T1000 tries to make Sarah call out to John. I do however go for the idea that the female chassis was made to be effective at infiltration.

    4. Re:identical terminators unwise by haggar · · Score: 1

      Aphrodite X? They translated that as "Aphrodite A" in the italian version of the series... which was called "Mazinga Z", btw. Memories from my childhood.
      Sheesh, "Mazinga Z" was aired in Italy 20 years ago!

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    5. Re:identical terminators unwise by jnana · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a nice set of breasts could be a woman's strongest weapon against 50% of the world's population. Do you know how many spies have been defeated by a nice set of breasts? Obviously they made it a beautiful woman for the ratings, but you could argue that it makes a better cyborg.

    6. Re:identical terminators unwise by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Funny

      yes, the added advantage that a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator.

      Notwithstanding how stupid this conversation really is, I have to wonder if a psychological advantage is needed when you have missiles flying out of your arms?

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    7. Re:identical terminators unwise by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 2

      What, you think all the Terminators look alike?

      If you've played T2: The Arcade Game then you know the answer is yes.

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    8. Re:identical terminators unwise by AnnaBlack · · Score: 1

      the added advantage that a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator.
      Hang on, you mean you define the terms humans as "heterosexual males attracted to buxom blondes"? If so, you seriously need to do some study of the range and depth of human cultures. Or perhaps in the future humanity is controlled by spotty American geek teenagers. Yeah, that'll be it.

    9. Re:identical terminators unwise by OldStash · · Score: 1

      What, you think all the Terminators look alike?

      If they do come in different shapes and sizes then it was a pretty mean trick sending the model which tried to kill Sarah back to save her.

      On another note; why not send the terminators back to 1984 when the original film took place? Instead of sending the T-800 back to pick Sarah up from the asylum, why not send it a bit further back to help out Reese? Each film would then be a rehash or the first, but with more and more terminators.

    10. Re:identical terminators unwise by Pastey · · Score: 1

      Except you forgot one point.

      Directly from the trailer, this terminator was designed, "to destory other cybernetic organisms".


      I guess even killer robots from the future get horny sometimes?

    11. Re:identical terminators unwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "hot female" chassis is probably just one of many designs for the pre-T1000 series, with, yes, the added advantage that a female Terminator could have certain psychological advantages in manipulating humans over a male terminator. "I have a detailed knowledge of human anatomy."

    12. Re:identical terminators unwise by jez9999 · · Score: 2

      Wow, that sure as hell would be an effective weapon. 'Just let me take my top off first... you can look if you want, you know...'

      boom...

    13. Re:identical terminators unwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, in the two first movies they had something looking like Mr Universe (indeed, Arnie did win that title), so thus there was the universe's most good looking guy infiltrating the female population . Now, since so many feminists are demanding to equality between sexes, it's nothing but fair that we men also get a bit of infiltration.

  56. Progression of sequels... by nemo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Terminator: Human protects Sarah from Terminator
    Terminator2: Terminator protects Sarah+John from advanced Terminator
    Terminator3: Terminator protects John from Barbie.

    1. Re:Progression of sequels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Collect terminator underpants (or bras in T3)
      2. ???
      3. Profit

    2. Re:Progression of sequels... by limbostar · · Score: 1

      Terminator: Human protects Sarah from Terminator
      Terminator2: Terminator protects Sarah+John from advanced Terminator
      Terminator3: Terminator protects John from Barbie.


      Terminator4: Terminator protects John+Barbie from Sarah?

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    3. Re:Progression of sequels... by s88 · · Score: 1

      Terminator4: Terminator protects public from Hollywood making Terminator4.

    4. Re:Progression of sequels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      T3: Terminator protects John from a hot chick. John gets pissed.

    5. Re:Progression of sequels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Terminator: Human protects Sarah from Terminator
      (Profit!)
      Terminator2: Terminator protects Sarah+John from advanced Terminator
      (PROFIT!!!)
      Terminator3: Terminator protects John from Barbie.
      (PROFIT!!!! and bad reviews)

  57. I was disappointed by I+Am+The+Owl · · Score: 2
    I thought the whole movie would be following along the lines of how the machines took over and came to power, but after viewing the trailer, it looked like it was going to be just another plotless shoot-em-up.

    As an aside, did anyone else just realize what an appropriation of the Terminator universe the Matrix was?

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  58. Arnold is Bad! ...and not in a good way. by His+Nastiness · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or does Arnold's acting seemb bad in this trailer? And I don't mean cheesy-Austrian-bad acting I mean BAD !!!!! AS in worse than usual. He sounds like someone trying to "do" Arnold. I don't care how good the movie is if he can't belt out another one of his Oscar caliber performances I just won't see it.....probably.

  59. IN NAZI GERMANY... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you could be arrested for rising something!

  60. John Connor by tetro · · Score: 1

    Wasn't John Connor supposed to be older? This dude looks younger and way less imposing than he should be. I thought he was a leader of an army.

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    1. Re:John Connor by swissmonkey · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, you don't need to be strong and tall to lead an army.

      Hitler was far from being strong and tall, yet he led an enormous army(to defeat, thank god).

    2. Re:John Connor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This movie's set at the start of the war; John Connor was around for quite a while after that, judging by his appearance in T1.

    3. Re:John Connor by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Err.. Wait? T1?
      I thought that was some random guy who John sent?

      You really mean to say John sent himself back to fuck his mother and inseminate her to give himself a life?

      IMHO that sounds quite sick if that really was the script writers intention...

    4. Re:John Connor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, do those linux zealots use a penguin as the logo of their OS?

    5. Re:John Connor by geekster · · Score: 1

      Watch the movie again, you see John in the future.

  61. Surely... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with the title 'Rise of the Machines' you would expect a little focus on said rising of said machines. Just another good series ruined I guess

  62. Playing under linux by Rufus211 · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you like me that are on linux and want to see this, here are some tips:

    1) The latest version of mplayer does play all QT, including this one. The needed codecs are here along with a short how to.

    2) The standard view-source and play whatever it lists doesn't work. All trailer's on apples website are now redirects. Add an "m" before the size for the real movie (t3_tlr_480.mov becomes t3_tlr_m480.mov).

    3) mplayer http://... usually doesn't work (sits there at 0% cache). Just wget it.

    4) Here's a direct link to the large trailer.

    5) While I'm at it, here's a link to the large X2 (X-Men 2) trailer.

    1. Re:Playing under linux by TeknoHog · · Score: 2
      > The standard view-source and play whatever it lists doesn't work. All trailer's on apples website are now redirects. Add an "m" before the size for the real movie (t3_tlr_480.mov becomes t3_tlr_m480.mov).

      MPlayer outputs the redirect links. Which is probably where you got the "m".

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    2. Re:Playing under linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playing under Linux - on x86 only. :(

    3. Re:Playing under linux by niloroth · · Score: 1

      And yet people wonder why windows has the market share it does on the desktop. My mom, and everyone in her office would never be able to figure this out, but IE can do it all automaticly. Hell, I am useing Mandrake 9.0 and this is a chore. And thats suposed to be the easy desktop distro.

      Justin

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    4. Re:Playing under linux by 13Echo · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the links, and the info.

      I've also been using the new MPlayer for the QT6 files, and it works great. Those people that are downloading it; make sure that you get the experimental win32 codec pack, and the QT codec pack. I also compiled mine with the QT support, as the instructions said to do- but it may not be neccessary.

    5. Re:Playing under linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The support is still experimental, previous to last month the possibility of playing quicktime in linux didn't even exist. Give it awhile until it gets into a non "pre-release" version of mplayer and they refine it a bit more.

      Perhaps you should write apple, telling them to support quicktime for other platforms, while you're waiting.

    6. Re:Playing under linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This problem is not caused by Linux, it is caused by Apple not wanting people to use other OS'es than windows on intel systems.

      IE doesn't do anything automatically, it just redirects to "please download quicktime", which mozilla also does, but there is no quicktime for Linux (again, because apple want people to use windows). When you have the quicktime plugin installed, quicktime will do it automatically.

    7. Re:Playing under linux by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      Blame Apple, not Linux. If trailors were released as say actual MPEG4/DivX movies, all of us could play them, with any media player we wanted, for free, with almost no hassle. But they choose not to do that, despite apparently "pushing" for standards.

      Right. "MPEG4 is the future" says Apple. I think we'll all take you more seriously when you start releasing all those trailers in an open format. Until then, it's just hot air from their PR department.

    8. Re:Playing under linux by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      As possibly useful bits of extra info:

      Get the win32 codecs pack, the HOWTO is out of date somewhat, and

      Configure with the --with-win32libdir=/usr/local/lib/win32 option (if you're installing to /usr/local). I had to set this explicitly, otherwise I got errors about not being able to find codecs.

      Oh, and the T3 trailor - probably isn't worth it. I'm trying the XMen2 trailor now :)

      Finally big thanks to the MPlayer and Wine teams, who make this possible.

    9. Re:Playing under linux by Monkeyfarmer · · Score: 1

      This alone is why Linux is never going to be a mainstream OS... WHO WANTS TO DO ALL THAT SHOT JUST TO WATCH A QUICKTIME!!!!??? Mod me, I don't care... Keep Linux on servers and development environments...

    10. Re:Playing under linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for the instructions and link, I was at a loss on how to play this. I *thought* had installed mplayer correctly, but without a direkt link I wouldn't have gotten the file to play, anway :)

      Thanx!

    11. Re:Playing under linux by catenos · · Score: 1

      This alone is why Linux is never going to be a mainstream OS... WHO WANTS TO DO ALL THAT SHOT JUST TO WATCH A QUICKTIME!!!!???

      First understand that this is not a Linux problem per se, but an Apple one. I would be curious what you would do on Microsoft Windows, if the QT plugin would be only published for Linux. Don't laugh: consider what could be in 5, 10 or 20 years. So my real point is, within some years at most, Linux versions for apps will be published by default.

      Second, understand that you have to go through these install steps, because QT support in mplayer is brand new. Soon enough, it will be as easy to install as any other package.

      Using Mandrake Cooker (that's the dev version) you already can enjoy this. I had to do nothing except

      urpmi mplayer

      or alternatively, if you like doing it with your mouse, simply check the box right of mplayer in the graphical installer and press the Install button (btw, you have to have non-USA aka PLF in the sources list).

      The remark about mplayer hanging (for me it's at 19%, not 0%) and the need to use wget still stands, but that is only a simply bug in an prerelease which will not last for long.

      So in short: be cautious when you use the word "never". It may turn out to mean "soon".

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  63. No, we need non-lazy AC's!!! by o0o · · Score: 1

    Here ya go..
    Damn lazy cowards..

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  64. SO lets all pass the hat. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 2

    Im sure we could scrape up enough donations for the linda hamilton webcam.

    Im only mostly kidding.

    Ive got paypal...

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    1. Re:SO lets all pass the hat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll see your paypal and raise you a bucket of cum.

    2. Re:SO lets all pass the hat. by bblgoose · · Score: 1

      I think i speak for a sizable proportion of /.ers when i say "ugh! gross!"

  65. Awww by plip · · Score: 1

    Awwww... she's dangerous. How cuuute.

  66. A reason for the Baddie being a girl. by MHall(Just3Ws) · · Score: 0

    Remember, in the second movie the T-1000 assumed the shape of the first being it came into contact with IIRC. Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the same thing with the T-X? I mean, if it time travelled into a downtown metropolitan area it might meet a female that looks like that and take her form. Unfortunetly, that would mean one less beautiful woman on the planet. Ha, I already got mine :-).

    1. Re:A reason for the Baddie being a girl. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone who has an intimate relationship with a woman, please step forward. Ah ah, not so fast, MHall(Just3Ws).

  67. It's the Ageinator by dh003i · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Awnawld Swaartzinager, the ageinator...he make you grow old real fast. He zap you with age gun, and you get baad wrinkals and grway hair.

    Is this round of Terminator going to feature a high-tech walking roller?

    The terminator movies were good movies to watch -- once, for each of them. I'm just hoping that Terminator 3 is a little bit better than the disaster 3's we've had to endure so far: Jaws 3, Friday the 13th 3, Halloween 3, Jurassic Park 3, etc.

  68. Rise Of The Machi.. er Humans??.. by o0o · · Score: 1

    If a blonde, leather wearing TX looking like that (espescially wearing all leather) was sent back for me, there'd definately be a rise of this human.. Hubba hubba..

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    1. Re:Rise Of The Machi.. er Humans??.. by Slur · · Score: 2

      Heh, is it like living tissue over a metal endoskeleton?

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    2. Re:Rise Of The Machi.. er Humans??.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's Rise of The Sex Machines!

  69. Tired of the small screen by Rainier+Wolfecastle · · Score: 1

    Since most of you are probably going to check out Lord of the Rings this weekend anyway, you'll notice that the T3 trailer is showing there too.

    Just try not too groan or laugh in dismay at the end of the trailer...

  70. mpaa.org by passion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ironic how just yesterday there was discussion of boycotting the MPAA, and here - just about 100 pixels below the trailer is a link to mpaa.org...

    Are we going to do this, or is a boycott just vaporware? Oh, I see - I'll watch the TT tomorrow, and after that I'll quit. I can quit anytime! They have a link to a really lame writeup on how piracy affects movie sales - they use the example of Star Wars: Phantom Mencace, that once it got to Asia, it was so pirated that nobody wanted to see it anymore. Bah! I say that everyone knew how badly Jar-Jar fucked it up that they didn't want to see it anymore.

    Let's pick a weekend for a big movie opening - at least a few months from now, so that we'll have time to organize and boycott it for a weekend. Then, we'll intentionally all go and see it on, maybe a tuesday afternoon - just to show them how many we are that protest their anti-piracy policies.

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    1. Re:mpaa.org by Rew190 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Posts like these are old and tired- I wasn't aware that everyone who didn't like the MPAA was boycotting it. Did I miss something?

      I don't like the **AA's, that's for sure, but not enough to stifle my interest in movies/music that I find genuinely worth experiencing or at least learning more about.

    2. Re:mpaa.org by bitflip · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is about nerds, and stuff that matters to them. A given story may "matter" to a large chunk of the audience, but its not even implied that it will matter to all of them.

      If the site's slogan was "Boycott the MPAA", and the URL was "boycottmpaa.org", I'd understand your confusion. If you want to have a discussion about boycotting the MPAA, seek a site that specializes in it, or create one.

    3. Re:mpaa.org by passion · · Score: 2

      my post was not of confusion, but in regard to irony.

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  71. Time Travel by VTg33k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit."

    I wonder, do we get to see her travel back in time naked and kill someone who just happens to be wearing a skin-tight red leather body suit?

    1. Re:Time Travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The only difference is newer special effects and the evil terminator is a buxom blonde, with big breasts, and wearing a tight red leather outfit."

      Shh... you had me at buxom.

  72. missing it by ppmax · · Score: 1

    hrumphm--

    the one thing that made the original terminator so good was the fact that it mirrored the mood and vibe of 1984: "skynet" was so...orwellian. does anyone remember what life was like in 84?
    cold war
    threat of nuclear annihilation
    a glimmer of hope in a world of darkness...

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  73. Apple.com bandwidth by jakedata · · Score: 1

    OK, the Apple website seems un-slashdottable. I just played the trailer at high resolution with no delay at all. So, how much mega-bitty-thingies do they have anyhow?

    1. Re:Apple.com bandwidth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not Apple's servers/bandwidth. It's Akamai's. They're not getting Slashdotted any time soon. :)

    2. Re:Apple.com bandwidth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try going to the Apple web site directly after Steve Jobs's Macworld keynotes.

    3. Re:Apple.com bandwidth by Pope · · Score: 1

      It's not actually Apple's bandwidth, it's Akamai's. They're the ones who pioneered large, distributed bandwidth for stuff like this. Notice the insanely long URL that points to the actual .mov file, it's been linked above.

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  74. Fall of a decent series by vudufixit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wasn't too thrilled about this film knowing that James Cameron wouldn't be involved in any way.
    Kind of ironic that in the trailer, they play the classic Terminator riffs composed by Brad Fiedel, considering that they replaced him with an entirely different composer who's not even using Fiedel's cues from the first two films!
    This reminds me a bit of the transition from Alien and Aliens to Alien3. It looks like in both cases, the producers have thrown out the charm, technical crew and composers from the first two and just put anybody in there.
    As I recall, Alien3 had a spectacular opening weekend, then poor word of mouth killed it in subsequent weeks, because people expected something worthy of the two predecessors, and didn't get it.
    T3 could very well end up in the same situation.

    1. Re:Fall of a decent series by Pope · · Score: 1

      Well, there's a good reason for that.
      No one expected a sequel to Alien, and Aliens came out 6 years later. Alien 3 came out 6 years after that one. Movie people, especially techies/FX folk, don't sit around waiting to be called to work on something they did 6 years previous: they're always looking for the next project. It's not as simple as you're implying.

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    2. Re:Fall of a decent series by vudufixit · · Score: 1

      Brad Fiedel and Adam Greenberg, and many others came back to work on T2, over five years after the release of the first Terminator film. Certainly, T2 benefitted from that. I agree that no one sits around hoping to rejoin a team they were once part of. However, there are more workers than work in Hollywood, and no one turns it down, unless they are already engaged. It's the producers' job to marshall talent. It's up to them to ask composers, FX artists and cinematographers to return for a sequel. Said technicians can (and usually do) say, "yes I'll do it" when given the chance. In the case of T3, it looks like the producers intentionally discarded elements that made the first two films great. I think sequels suffer when the producers try too hard to bring new blood onboard. Some of the effects in Alien 3 are horrible (Amalgamated Dynamics and Boss Film vs. LA Effects and Stan Winston) compared to the first two films, despite a decade plus of advancements in FX technology.

  75. No James Cameron == bad movie by Schwern · · Score: 4, Informative

    A quick look at the cast & crew will tell you that T3 is going to be a big budget train wreck. The most glarring omission? James Cameron. He directed and wrote T1, directed, wrote and produced T2. He's nowhere to be found on T3. Very Bad. Nor do we get William Wishner Jr., co-writer of both T1 and T2. Very, very bad.

    So who do we have instead?

    Director: Jonathan Mostow
    Of "U-571" infamy.

    Writers: John D. Brancato and Michael Ferris
    The people who brought us "The Net", "The Game" and the terminally medicore "Interceptor".

    Writer: Tedi Sarafian
    He wrote the script for "Tank Girl".

    Actors...
    The only returning actor is Arnold, because you can't have the movie without him. Neither Linda Hamilton nor Edward Furlong are coming back.

    Given the exodus of the original cast and crew and the lame second string players they've brought in for replacements, I can predict it won't be worth $10.

    Rent the T2 Special Edition instead.

    1. Re:No James Cameron == bad movie by PD · · Score: 1

      The Game and Tank Girl were great movies.

    2. Re:No James Cameron == bad movie by Maserati · · Score: 2

      The biggest problems with U-571 were screenplay and script. Those *are* huge factors, but given those factors, the direction was just fine. Of course there's the "nobody better would sign on to that script" factor...

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    3. Re:No James Cameron == bad movie by mgblst · · Score: 2

      The game was a great movie, with a wicked, original concept, but with a stupid, stupid ending!

  76. Why no beginnings of the war... by hiryuu · · Score: 2

    I wonder if the reason why they're not showing the actual "Rise of the Machines," the early days of Skynet's sentience, and the beginning of the actual human/machine war is that the Matrix plumbed that particular notion fairly heavily. After all, both movies share said war as a basic premise and bit-o-history in the plot. Maybe they want to avoid the comparisons, or would prefer to stay more action movie and less speculative fiction?

    I'm not sure this even merits being called my two cents.

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  77. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by vladkrupin · · Score: 1

    better than having a bunch of people look at that nastiness. I'd use +1000 if I could

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  78. Looks bad to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    looks like a rehash.. I think I'll chose this film for my MPAA boycott :)

  79. Hasta la Vista, Arnie... by Maul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Stop terminating a dead horse.

    Seriously, though, I don't understand why they are making this movie, or at least why they are making it the way they are now.

    First off, Arnold is a bit too old now. 5-8 years ago, maybe it could have happened. Not now, though, despite the massive amounts of makeup.

    Second off, looks like they are just turning this into a cheeseball cliche action movie. Very little originality, lots of mindless action, special effects, and the obligatory hot chick.

    Now, the trailor gives away very little except that the machines have sent thier latest robot back in time to kill us. The original Terminator must also go back to stop that machine. Sounds a lot like the Plot of Terminator 2.

    I might be wrong. It might end up being a good movie. I just doubt it.

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    1. Re:Hasta la Vista, Arnie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have had sexy agent reyes from the x-files be the new terminator, then she could go back and fight agent doggett.

  80. Terminators must be running buggy OSes... by happyhippy · · Score: 1

    ...if not one, but two of them can be reprogrammed to do the opposite of what they are supposed to do ie kill humans.

    1. Re:Terminators must be running buggy OSes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, by that definition, any program is buggy, because it can be re-programmed to do something completely different...

    2. Re:Terminators must be running buggy OSes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Skynet just hasn't gotten around to porting Cyberdyne's version of DRM technology into commented assembly source code on a CSM-101 T-800's 65c02 microprocessor. If they're good enough for the humans' space-travelling probes, they're good enough for the machines' time-travelling cyborg assassins.

      And that DRM is going to add some overhead to those RWTS routines and impact field performance, too. Remember: there's no need for a Terminator to have more than 144 KiB of floppy disk storage.

  81. "I have detailed files..." by mraymer · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Here is an excellent site with lots of info on T3, including interviews with Stan Winston (the famous SFX guy), Arnold, and others.

    Also, whenever there's talk of T3, the question comes up, well, didn't they stop it from happening? Obviously not, and here's how. Arnie tore off his own arm after the T1000 stuck it in that machine in the steel mill. So, they used his arm for the research instead of the original Terminator's arm and CPU. Also, I've heard the idea that Cyberdyne Systems had off-site backups. ;)

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    1. Re:"I have detailed files..." by happyhippy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Didnt the young John Connor throw the arm into the lava?

      I havent seen T2 in a while

    2. Re:"I have detailed files..." by demaria · · Score: 3, Informative

      That was the arm from the original Terminator, not the Good One.

    3. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They real question: how does humanity stop T4 from happening? I vote thermonuclear devices.

    4. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how does humanity stop T4 from happening?

      C5

    5. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Resident+Geek · · Score: 1

      Ah, but that wasn't the only arm...

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    6. Re:"I have detailed files..." by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Well, killing James Cameron is obviously not going to work. The studio has already thought of that one and has taken pre-emptive measures. OTOH, T4 could be great if the studios cared even a little about something other than $$$$. The term "Independent film" is redundant. What hollywood spews out is nothing more than a bunch of 2 hour long trailers. Expect to see the original good idea mutilated even more in the name of profits. Nothing good can come of this.

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    7. Re:"I have detailed files..." by dpt · · Score: 1

      Arnie tore off his own arm after the T1000 stuck it in that machine in the steel mill. So, they used his arm for the research instead of the original Terminator's arm and CPU

      That's got to be the lamest explanation they could use. How could an *arm*, ie. some metal and hydraulics, possibly help you design the "neural net" processor required for Skynet itself?

      This is even dumber than the "using human body heat for energy" thing from The Matrix, but as that was a great film I'll overlook it.

      However, if this is the explanation used in this movie I will simply assume it's too stupid to warrant parting with money to see. Please, someone, say it isn't so. Even the laziest Hollywood hack couldn't be this brain-dead!

    8. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The arm thrown into the molten steel hopper was that of the original T1 terminator, taken from the Cyberdyne lab. The T2's arm was left where it was caught and torn off.

    9. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2

      Actually, the explanation I prefer is this: prior to the events of the first Terminator movie, there must have been some company other than Cyberdyne which, eventually, created the technology for Skynet to exist. This had to have occured, otherwise Terminator 1 simply couldn't happen (who would come back and leave behind a chip for Cyberdyne to find if no one created Skynet in the first place). So, destruction of Cyberdyne simply means that the original company will move forward with its plans and create Skynet anyway...

    10. Re:"I have detailed files..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The term "Independent film" is redundant

      The term "Independent film" is synonymous with crap and garbage and make the most boring movies in history. Independant film studios simply are amateurs who don't have the skills to make it in Hollywood. These studios simply have not had any big hits yet, and as soon as they do they let themselves be purchased by the big studios, for much $$ for their owners of course.

  82. D�j� Vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember seeing the preview for Austin Powers III, you know the one with the midgets. Thinking o my god this must be a joke. Thank the sequel gods, it was. I wish I could say the same thing about T3.

  83. Really bad by geek · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the future we will be hunted by teenage blondes that look like Buffy the vampire slayer.

    This movie is going to be a joke. No James Cameron is bad enough, but making Buffy the vampire slayer into the terminator is just over the top.

    Yes I know it's not the real Buffy chick, but honestly, does it matter? It's the same cliche.

    1. Re:Really bad by Steve+G+Swine · · Score: 3, Funny
      In the future we will be hunted by teenage blondes that look like Buffy the vampire slayer.
      Freeze me now, thaw me then...
      --
      "Consider yourself a member of a virtual corporation with Mr. Torvalds as your Chief Executive Officer." - Linux Advocac
    2. Re:Really bad by quacking+duck · · Score: 1
      Yes I know it's not the real Buffy chick, but honestly, does it matter? It's the same cliche.

      You know you've made an impact on the hollywood landscape when a concept that attacks a cliche (a small, blond girl kills monsters rather than screaming and running away from them) becomes a cliche itself ;-)

  84. infiltrator liekness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T3 is suppoesedly based on the book T2:infilitrator by SM Stirling. In the book, there is a female, but she aint a terminator, she is closer to a human, hell she is human, just heavily improved with computer parts. EG when connor shoots her in the head, the computer part can still move the body, but cant see and has to rely on sound. Also, there are four terminators that she constructs, but connor makes a taser 4 times as powerfull which takes them out without a problem.

  85. Rocky VI by dl107227 · · Score: 1

    And with the announcement of Rocky VI in the works I can now die a happy and content man.

    1. Re:Rocky VI by geek · · Score: 2

      Rocky V was my favorite in the series. I don't know about a 6th movie tho, it's a little hard to pull off after Rocky gets dain bramage.

  86. umm by geek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We aren't the fucking borg man. I didn't agree to any boycott nor has anyone I know. Maybe you did, but don't dare include me in your "we".

    1. Re:umm by passion · · Score: 2

      I never said that you and I were doing anything. I pointed out that there was mention of a boycott discussed on this very site just 24 hours ago, (this was a topic chosen by the /. editors) and now they've chosen to publish something that goes entirely contrary to that. Ironic, wouldn't you say?

      ...the second part was intended as a joke, and you obviously didn't read the whole thing, damn - why am I wasting my time replying to this?

      --
      - passion
    2. Re:umm by antistuff · · Score: 1

      Your wasting your time replying for the same reason you made the post in the first place....

      STOP TALKING TO HEAR YOURSELF

    3. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, and the "boycott the MPAA slashdot crowd" agreed to boycott the MPAA.

      Today, the "movie going slashdot crowd" is talking about going to see T3.

      Those are two distinct groups of people, with one thing in common: Both spend too much time on slashdot.

  87. There's no subtext here, honest! by duck_prime · · Score: 5, Funny
    There are *some* disadvantages to having a girlfriend.
    Yes, like wasting time trying to think of sly ways to advertise the fact on Slashdot.

    ;)
    1. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Wulfwise · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA This is the first post I really found funny :8)

      --
      "If it walks from the refridgerator ... set it free ..." - A wise sage
    2. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by btellier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very interesting that you point this out. I hadn't really considered the male angle of this phenomenon, only the female angle.

      Ever notice how women on the internet almost always advertise their gender? Stained wife-beater, Hitler moustache, playground lurking perverts not withstanding, ACTUAL women truly enjoy the Internet lifestyle. This only increases exponentially with how geeky the forum is. If it's a simple screenname/handle/nick, they might be "jane125851", but if it's an MMORPG forum they might also post a pic (real or otherwise, it doesn't make a difference). I think women who are otherwise jilted by men are very attracted to the Internet, and can become addicted to the way that men act around them in a non-confrontational setting. And not without good reason either. Nerdmen on the Internet are so smitten with women with similar tastes (being on the net constitutes "a taste") that they will do virtually (pun intended) anything to please them.

      I could go on and on, but I guess my point is that male geeks on the net like to advertise that they do have women, female geeks on the net like to advertise that they want attention.

    3. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Afrosheen · · Score: 2

      female geeks on the net like to advertise that they want attention

      I don't know about the geek women where you live, but in Texas, they just want a ham sandwich and some cheesy poofs. The geek ladies here are fat, lazy, and homely. I can't speak for all of them but for the dozen or so I've met (except one really hot tattooed chick that ownz at Quake3), it's no wonder they'd rather date online.

      In cyberspace, no one can hear your potential mate scream.

    4. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by mjpaci · · Score: 2

      Cybercows?

    5. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Merlisk · · Score: 1

      ...female geeks on the net like to advertise that they want attention.

      And this differs from female non-geeks how? :)

      --
      Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld
    6. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by domsol · · Score: 2

      Well, I'll admit that your experience runs entirely contrary to mine :)

      This is possibly generational -- us old-folk learned pretty quickly to get gender-neutral handles or endure the annual September onslaught of (presumed to be) freshmen trying out their college accounts.

      Granted, most of the women I know online work in high-tech (or bio-tech) and don't spend much time in, um, MUDS or chat rooms or whatever.

      Me, I would prefer to be identified as a woman if it meant that they'd quit spamming me with penis-enlargement and "hot teen sluts" mail....sigh.

      --
      > My comment can be quoted whenever, wherever, so long as you bloody well provide attribution! >
    7. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incorrect. You don't take the women stealthing as neuters or males into account because we're not obvious.

      It's true there are women who love the attention. It's not as clear that they're a majority.

      With respectful regards,
      A Stealth Female

    8. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a lot of relatively 'stealth' females online. Some of us actually pretend to be guys to avoid annoying people.

    9. Re:There's no subtext here, honest! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some men want attention so much that they're using female nicks. It's so common that there's no point to try quess peoples gender by their nicknames.

  88. analysis of robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see. Do robots have a sex? Are there girl robots? Boy robots? No. They are just robots. They don't reproduce. It is a waste to give them a sex. It is a waste to give a robot a penis or boobs because they don't need it.

    The whole point of the Austin Powers "fembots" was that they were a joke. No one would expect a robot to look like that, except in the case of a pleasure robot, like in Blade Runner.

    This is all just crap. I'm so sick of Hollywood. It's better to just ignore MPAA and RIAA and the other scam artists.

  89. SPOILER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    She doesn't realize she's a machine.

  90. So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by duck_prime · · Score: 5, Funny
    I just watched the trailer and am quite disappointed!
    I hear Terminator 3.11 is going to be awesome.
    1. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by JourneymanMereel · · Score: 1

      Just wait 'till they change the entire backend and make a seperate version that looks similar for corporations called Terminator NT 3.51... after all, consumers don't need a stable movie :)

      --
      Life has many choices. Eternity has two. What's yours?
    2. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by medscaper · · Score: 5, Funny
      I hear Terminator 3.11 is going to be awesome.

      Yeah, and 36D should be enough for anyone.

      --
      Any sufficiently well-organized Government is indistinguishable from bullshit.
    3. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it will be slow to start and freeze randomly when you play it in your DVD player.

    4. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by BigWhale · · Score: 1

      I think I'm gonna wait for T 3.11 for Workgroups....

      --
      The Sig, the sig
    5. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by nortcele · · Score: 1
      I hear Terminator 3.11 is going to be awesome.

      Yeah, and 36D should be enough for anyone.

      Anything more would be a waste...
    6. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by clarkc3 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, and 36D should be enough for anyone

      I'm gonna hold out and wait for 38GG. I hear that one's gonna be big

    7. Re:So you don't like Terminator 3, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anything more than C-cup is too big. Remember, these things are made for feeding babies.

  91. Tx anatomically correct? by Winterblink · · Score: 2

    I wonder if the girl Tx is anatomically correct. Because if I'm going to be terminated, that's the way I wanna go. Oh yeah.

    --
    "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
    -Hoban Washburn
    1. Re:Tx anatomically correct? by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      I wonder if the girl Tx is anatomically correct.

      You would think so. To render correctly, they would have had to model her body, then added her clothes, in order to have the clothes move realistically. So there's probably a flag in the Makefile to render every scene with her in naked. There must have been one in The Spirits Within too, but I couldn't find it on the DVD.

  92. Filthy by j3ffrey · · Score: 1, Informative

    I can't wait for it to come out just so I can read the filthy critic's review. If it's even slightly weak he'll cain the crap out of it. I love reading what that guy has to say.

    1. Re:Filthy by Gyan · · Score: 1


      Is it satirical ?

      He gave Glitter 5 of 5.

    2. Re:Filthy by RumpRoast · · Score: 1

      I love that guy. He might be the only honest critic left.

      --

      My Ass hurts.
    3. Re:Filthy by happyhippy · · Score: 1

      Read the Glitter review. That review is satire, but usually he writes the truth.

  93. direct link to trailer by noodlez84 · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:direct link to trailer by Stinking+Pig · · Score: 2

      thanks for the direct link, but man -- this sucks. Bummer, first two were pretty good. Arnold's pancake makeup is more intimidating than chicky-babe plays robot.

      --
      "Nothing was broken, and it's been fixed." -- Jon Carroll
  94. Re:YOU FAIL IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suggest you check who made the fp.

  95. Sorry, can't resist.. by CBNobi · · Score: 2

    Theme to Rocky XIII, by Weird Al Yankovich

    Fat and weak, what a disgrace.
    Guess the champ got too lazy.
    Ain't gonna fly now, he's just takin' up space.
    Sold his gloves, threw his eggs down the drain.
    But he's no bum, he works down the street.
    He bought the neighborhood deli.
    Back on his feet, now he's choppin' up meat.
    Come inside, maybe you'll hear him say:
    Try the rye or the kaiser,
    They're on special tonight.
    If you want, you can have an appetizer.
    You might like our salami, and the liver's all right.
    And they'd really go well with the rye,
    Or the kaiser.
    Never eats while on the job.
    He heard it's good to stay hungry.
    But he makes a pretty mean shish kabob.
    Have a taste, they were made fresh today.
    Try the rye or the kaiser or the wheat or the white.
    Maybe I can suggest an appetizer.
    Stay away from the tuna, it smells funny tonight.
    But you just can't go wrong with the rye,
    Or the kaiser.
    So today, his deli comes first.
    Still he dreams of his past days of glory.
    Goes in the back and beats up on the liverwurst,
    All the while you can still hear him say:
    It's the rye or the kaiser, it's the thrill of one bite.
    Let me please be your catering advisor.
    If you want substitutions, I won't put up a fight.
    You can have your roast beef on the rye,
    Or the kaiser.
    The rye or the kaiser,
    The rye or the kaiser,
    The rye or the kaiser...

    1. Re:Sorry, can't resist.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oddly prescient

    2. Re:Sorry, can't resist.. by Eil · · Score: 2


      Theme to Rocky XIII, by Weird Al Yankovich

      You should have cut and pasted the byline also, since you spelled Yankovic wrong. You also neglected to note that the song is set to the tune of Eye of the Tiger, thus destroying the joke.

  96. Quicktime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Can anyone convert this to some non-proprietary format so that its visible to those of us that refuse to be assimilated? Downloadable MPEGs would be usable.

    1. Re:Quicktime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mencoder -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1100:vhq -oac mp3lame -lameopts cbr:br=128 t3_tlr_m480.mov -o t3_tlr_m480.avi

  97. Terminator Vs. Mahoro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A hot, subtly chested, girl terminator could be modded to hold .. Breast Missiles!

    On a more serious note, does anybody want to see Arnie in a maid dress?

  98. Live off the divorce settlement by Goonie · · Score: 2
    Seeing Linda Hamilton is James Cameron's ex-wife, and they had a daughter together, I'm sure the alimony and child support constitute a pretty good living...

    I'd imagine that, even if she's not super-rich, she's in a position where she could live a very comfortable lifestyle for the rest of her life without working another day.

    --

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  99. Already saw it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Already saw it, before Lord of The Rings, WahahAHHA ::passes out::

    MOD ME DOWN, I DONT CARE, I SAW LOTR, IM CRAAAZY WAAAAAAAAAAAA MY PRECIOUS!!!!!

    must kill lameness filter, it tricked me!

  100. Urrgghh by cranos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well thats one movie Im not going to go and see. Just watched the trailer and I had an amazing sense of deja vu all over again.

    Basically it looks like Terminator 2 with tits.

    1. Re:Urrgghh by goldid · · Score: 1

      Something wrong with T2 with tits? Ha.

  101. Two Word Review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Shit Sandwich."

  102. This is great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A buxom blonde female terminator who can morph herself the perfect sex object: a two-foot tall dwarf with big ears for grasping and a flat top for holding your beer.

    Regardless of how this film ends, I expect this female to be resurrected in Arnie's risque' final version, The Sperminator.

  103. in Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, Quicktime terminates YOU!

  104. It looks like fun? It looks like a yawnfest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does the T-X look so drugged/sleepy? Why am I supposed to be impressed that the 'new Terminator' (how does that future timeline maintain coherence by the way?) looks female? Why isn't it just invisible or completely amorphous? Wouldn't it be a better assassin if it didn't maintain a set form, be it female or male? "female Terminator" just screams "gimmick" to me. There's a reason Jonathan Mostow, director of U-571 and little else, is directing this movie and James Cameron, the creator of the mythology, wants nothing to do with it. I'll wait for a rental.

    And why is this movie PG-13? What was the last good PG-13 action movie you saw?

  105. Another frachise bites the dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T1 was fantastic.
    T2 payed homage to the fantastic, expanded magnificently upon it, then closed the loop.
    T3 is just digging up and trying to resuscitate the corpse of the embodyment of a once-great idea. When you blow in, maggots will blow back out and worms will squirt out the ears. Do the chest compressions, and your hands will end up impaled through the body...

    But you can't blame Hollywood for milking a bunch of idiots who will pay hard-earned money on trite crap such as this...

    God bless those maniacle bastards who brought us other great ideas such as the DMCA!

    In Soviet Russia, we kiss our own asses!

    1. Re:Another frachise bites the dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is complete shit asshole

      try getting a real job

    2. Re:Another frachise bites the dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd get a real job, but your mom keeps me in bed with her all day long

  106. MY GOD I agree! by s88 · · Score: 2, Insightful


    For the longest time T2 was my favorite movie. I embraced it for what it was; a pure action movie.

    But i seriously would be laughing at this trailer if it was on MadTV or SNL or somthing. It is such a parody of itself, it makes me sick. "She'll be back." Give me a fucking break.

    What makes me sick to my stomache is that it will probably do a decent gross at the theathers.

    Are they even trying anymore?

  107. My CPU Is a Neural-Net.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Processor, a Learning computer

    and I can't belive this shlock.
    For some fun, check out this link.

    ain't it groovy?

  108. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, because it would so traumatize the pure souls of slashdot if they saw such nastiness. Thanks for your kind service to the virgin masses -- three-way pun, what is that called again?

  109. Does it hurt when you get shot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.
    Yeah, major drag, huh.

    I'll be back.

    Trust me.

    You're really real!

    Get a grip John!

    Okay, I know you're not here to kill me, I figured that part out for myself.

    This is deep.

    I know this hurts.

    Call to John now.

    Oh shit, she's going to blow him away!

    Affirmative. No no no, you don't say 'affirmative' or some shit like that, you say "No problemo". And if someone comes up to you with an attitude, you say "Eat me". Or if you want to shine them up it's "Astalavista, baby".

    Astalavista, baby.

    Yeah, that's it. Later dickwad. Or you can do combinations.

    Chillout, dickwad.

    Yeah! See you're getting it.

    No problemo.

    YES I HAVE WATCHED T2 TOO MANY TIMES!

  110. Linux *is* easy! by NineNine · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Wow. Instructions on how to view a simple QT clip. Jeez, why didn't anybody tell me that Linux was this simple? Only a dozen or so downloads, move those files around, do some configuring, and in an hour or so, you're there! Wow, this *is* easy! Why would anyone ever want to use Windows when all you have to do is click on a single "OK" to install QT? What fun is that? It's much to easy.

    1. Re:Linux *is* easy! by Stalin · · Score: 0

      if you like windows so much then use it. no one is forcing you to use linux nor mplayer.

      some of us dont like being spoon fed.

    2. Re:Linux *is* easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiot.

    3. Re:Linux *is* easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree -- viewing advertisments for pop-culture pulp just isn't the same unless it's difficult. The journey is the reward!

    4. Re:Linux *is* easy! by swillden · · Score: 2

      Who said easy was the goal?

      --
      Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
    5. Re:Linux *is* easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of actually have lives outside of a command prompt.

    6. Re:Linux *is* easy! by insomaniac · · Score: 1

      I agree here, on FreeBSD it is very hard tho:

      I have to *TYPE*:
      cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer && make install

      man, even the most '3l33t' of hackers would find this hard

      --
      The way to corrupt a youth is to teach him to hold in higher value them who think alike than those who think differently
    7. Re:Linux *is* easy! by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Well, while I agree with the gist of your arguement, I wish it was that easy on Windows...

      At home, with XP Pro, I installed QT first since I knew it wasn't on my box. Needed it to watch video clips from my digital camera anyway. So I download it, let it install itself, and try to watch the movie. No go. The webpage in the main story does nothing - at one point it said that it needed an additional component for QT, but the software wasn't available. Whatever. Never got it working.

      At work (Win2k) I clicked on the link first, it asked me about a QT ActiveX plugin, then to install QT. Fine. Let it do its thing. Reload the page -- warning that it may not display correctly due to the page asking for some insecure information and my ActiveX security permissions preventing this. Joy.

      I eventually got it working at work - open QT, paste the URL provided by the parent post.

      And yes, I'm sure I could beat things into submission if I wished. But I long ago learned that tweaking shit just isn't worth the time and I prefer for my computer to just work like the appliance it's supposed to be. Which is one major reason I run Windows instead of Linux on my main PC. Needless to say this kind of thing annoys me.

  111. Meh by cyranoVR · · Score: 1

    Why the heck is /. posting this trailer on the VERY DAY THAT TWO TOWERS OPENS?!?! WTF - LOTR is all we care about right now.

    PS LOTR deserves its own /. logo :P

  112. so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont care how good or bad it is, I won't download quicktime to watch it. Slashdot should have an article when this is converted to mpeg and put on servers that can stand up to the bandwidth demand.

  113. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  114. Behind the scenes of the T3 trailer... by hubbah · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is how I heard it:

    Voiceover: The machines will RISE this July...
    Screenwriters: But we're completely out of ideas!
    Voiceover: Please watch it on July 2nd.
    Ahnuld: I'm old.
    Screenwriters: Bigger explosions, more tits... We were on a deadline!
    Voiceover: Pretty please... There are more explosions...
    Ahnuld: I'm old and cuddly. Hear me whimper!
    Voiceover: At theatres everywhere.

    Hey, what if there was a movie about aliens coming from the future to prevent Ahnuld from becoming the outspoken governor of California some years on? Oh, wait... this is that movie. Spoiler/Prediction: The aliens blunder by immediately ending Ahnuld's already-tepid acting career, thereby inadvertently hastening his political ascendance.

    Ahnuld: I'm old. Vote for me.

    1. Re:Behind the scenes of the T3 trailer... by Bassman59 · · Score: 1

      Ahnuld: I'm old. Vote for me.

      Thank G-d he wasn't born in this country.

  115. T3 by Kafka_Canada · · Score: 2

    "Features include shiny chrome, blue LED's a-plenty and a few seconds of a CGI'ed army of Terminators."

    Attack of the Clones? Clone of Attack of the Clones? Attack of the Clone of the Attack of the Clones?

    --
    Fuck it
  116. Good, yet not good... by WCLPeter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just some quick background information...

    I remember back when I was a kid, I convinced my parents to sneak me into the Drive In to watch the original Terminator on the big screen. I remember being blown away by the action, the story, and well... okay, I had a school-boy crush on Linda Hamilton. ;-)

    Of course when T2 came out I hadn't seen the original in years, so I went out and rented it from the local Video Store and checked it out again. Again I rather enjoyed it, and was able to have an even deeper understanding of the films story.

    Then I went and saw T2, and I started to feel uneasy. For it was then that I started to realize that the entire film was basically just a rehash of the entire first film.

    The structure, plotting, even the scenes are almost completely ripped off from the first movie. From the arrival scene, to the "Finding *insert* Connor.", to the ending sequence where both films ended with a car chase, tanker explosion, and a climactic battle scene in a manufacturing plant with lots of belts and gears and pullies and crap.

    It was almost as if Cameron had didn't really bother to come up with anything new. So when I found out that he wasn't doing it I was quite happy. Not because I think his movies suck, but more because I didn't really want to see a rehash of T1 & T2 yet again.

    But after watching that trailer, I'm pretty conviced that we're going to see the same film as the first two.

    We're going to have a similar arrival experience, although with the Bimbornator it might be interesting. Then we're going to be subjected to a wasteful 20-30 minutes of "Is the Bimbornator bad or good, and just where in the heck is John Connor, and why doesn't he look like Eddie Furlong, anyway?" Despite the fact that all the advertising for the film is going to make it quite obvious that Bimbornator is bad, Arnie is good.

    We're going to probably have a the flimsy filler that will attempt to make a story, but will probably follow quite closley to the original plot, "John you are destined to be this great leader, you better make sure you don't die! Oh and by the way, this evil Sky-Net thing you killed in the last movie, it didn't die."

    It will most likley end with a cheesy car chase scene, /* Arnie hanging from a crane driving down the street? Or would this be a rehash of the "Saving ____ Connor from the evil terminator by jumping in front of, on, or shooting at the chase vehicle?" scene? */ followed by a big truck exploding ending with a fight in some factory type of place.

    The sad part though is that the coolest part, the first 15-20 minutes of the movie that takes place in the future, would probably make a more interesting and exciting movie to watch.

    But the even sadder part though, I'll probably go and see it. Even though I know it'll probably suck badly, deep down I have this faint hope that they might actually make this film interesting, exciting and worth seeing.

    Oh, and one last thing... Did anyone else get the feeling that when the Bimbornator was running through the forest in the red leather outfit; that for just a split second you were watching a trailer for an upcoming episode of Buffy? ;-)

  117. shapeshifters don't smell right by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    Don't you remember? In the future, humans use dogs to "sniff out" terminators infiltrated into their midst. (Terminator I). If even cyborg terminators with organic parts smell different, shapeshifters must smell even more different. No good for infiltration into future-earth human enclaves.

    --
    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
  118. I don't know if you WANT to see this by TTMuskrat · · Score: 1

    One of my co-workers downloaded the trailer this morning and everyone ('cept me) gathered around his computer to watch. The next thing I heard was screams of laughter and exclamations of disbelief. As the T3 trailer ended, another of my co-workers said, "That was sad. The trailer for Bad Boys 2 was soo much better!!"

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    Support bacteria! It's the only culture most people seem to get.
  119. The truth about Eric Krout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Slashdot users need to understand who Eric Krout is, and a visit to one of Slashdot's "sister sites" that he terrorized previously (Kuro5hin) is most instructive. For a period of several months, he crapflooded the site incessantly, and was so abusive that he ended up altering various site policies (i.e., mojo accumulation for comments on diary entries.) Rusty Foster, the admin of Kuro5hin who often found himself on the receiving end of attacks from Eric Krout, showed admirable restraint in not cancelling his accounts. Most admins I know would have cancelled them in a heartbeat. Here's why:

    Check out his diary. Note that the last entry in it, titled "We Win, You Fucking Losers", admits to perpetrating a "reign of terror" at Kuro5hin. Also instructive his the diary of his alternate account, Christian Roberts, in which he refers to himself as "the ultimate troll" and "Kuro5hin's best user." (Sound familiar?) Among his other alternative accounts was the lovely I Fucked Your Girlfriend.

    Eric Krout seemed harmless enough when he came to Kuro5hin, but that didn't last very long. Soon he was posting self-absorbed diary entries several times a day, then he started attacking regulars in their diaries, then he started spamming the submissions queue and crapflooding the diaries section, and finally he ended up posting what can only be described as sheer hate. Eric Krout didn't hesitate to tell you what he thought of "faggots" and "niggers" and all of these other groups that apparently do not sit well with him.

    Eric Krout is a racist, a sexist, and a homophobe, but beneath all that, all you need to know is this: Eric Krout is an obsessive loser who spends every waking minute of his spare time crapflooding weblogs. As it happens, Slashdot is his current target. Don't take my word for it, follow the links and read for yourself (if you're so inclined.) But moderating this moron up or playing his silly little games is only going to prolong his stay. In the interest of keeping the signal-to-noise ratio here high, I submit that we would all be better off by cutting his visit short. The world is full of assholes, but Eric Krout is a relative rarity -- he is a genuinely horrible person.

    From a concerned Slashdot AND Kuro5hin regular.

    1. Re:The truth about Eric Krout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great write up. You should add that he has already taken on other names here. The most frequently used on lately is SteweyGriffin.

  120. Big Screen Trailer? by emkman · · Score: 2

    I saw the new Lord of the Rings today, and an employee at Sony said there would the T3 trailer, but it wasn't there. Anyone else seen the new trailer on the big screen?

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  121. theater of the mind by spoonyfork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The T3 of my imagination is better than this drek. In my T3, we see hubris of man as they give the keys to the kingdom to a machine. Skynet become-self aware and the war starts. John Connor rises up and fights in a dark painful world where the banality of mindless evil crushes everyone's soul and body. His soldiers, friends, and mother die around him.

    Sure, he sends Ahnuld back to save his bacon but that is what is so interesting to me about this mind-flick -- what happens after? I'm sure it would have a Millenium type feel with timequakes or something or would the future just instantly change into something more pleasant, too easy, like Ender at the end of Ender's Game. Where do you go next?

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  122. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  123. Parent is clearly FLAMEBATE, or OFFTOPIC by arcadum · · Score: 1

    Moderation like the above is giving trolls a bad name

  124. I think I saw this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So other than the bad terminator having boobs, how is this different from T2?

  125. It was in his head... by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, the chip was in the head. In the special edition director's cut of the movie, there is a scene where they remove the chip from the Terminator's head to switch it from read-only to read-write.

    It's a great scene, and it was annoying that it never made the theatrical cut. But, alas...

    1. Re:It was in his head... by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      owww!!!

      bad evil person!!!

      now i got to go and get that se dvd!

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    2. Re:It was in his head... by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 1

      If the chip was in the head, then why the big hulla-balloo over the arm from Terminator 1? The chip in the arm (which is the only piece left of the original Terminator) is what leads to the creation of CyberDyne and SkyNet. After all, the recovery of the arm is the whole point of T2. But, they again leave an arm behind, which means the while circle begins again, and T2 was pointless.

  126. T-800 Chip by aivic · · Score: 0

    Speaking of the T-800 Chip, I wonder what cooling method Skynet used to cool this chip down. I didnt see any heatsinks in the Director's Edition of Terminator 2

  127. Holy Fuck by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are we going to do this, or is a boycott just vaporware?

    I think I speak for everyone on Slashdot when I say, "We?"

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  128. An UNSlasdoted movie!!! by jayrcee · · Score: 1

    posted on slasdot even... Is anyone not yet impressed by Apple hardware? It also raises the question, what companies are using Apple Servers in business today?

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    1. Re:An UNSlasdoted movie!!! by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      Golly gee whiz! I don't know what hardware Akamai runs, but it sure as heck is impressive, because that's where the video is coming from!!1!! Look at the page source!!1!!

      Is anyone not yet embarrassed by this post?

  129. Re:ELCOMSOFT NOT GUILTY1 by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    Flamebait, but I'll bite. Only because I have the said article in another browser tab and just not lazy enough to post it here.

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=48296&thresh ol d=0&commentsort=0&tid=123&mode=thread&pid=4909092# 4909216

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  130. Continuity by AsmordeanX · · Score: 1

    T3 doesn't seem to follow the storyline of T2. The end of T2 left no openings for a sequel other than stupid Hollywood tricks (see the Highlander series for an example). When I heard of T3 I thought it would be the future before T1 occured which could have been cool but the trailer certianly doesn't look like it. I think I would find more entertainment value from Relic Hunter or Sheena. Even Baywatch would probably have a deeper story.

    1. Re:Continuity by EllisDees · · Score: 1

      Well, there was a terminator hand left in those giant gears when Arnold pried his own arm off...

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    2. Re:Continuity by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      True, but that wouldn't alter what *already happened.*

      Skynet, being an intelligent computer, sends four separate terminators into the past. One, to kill Sarah Conner before she gets pregnant. One, to kill John Conner when he's a kid. One, to kill John Conner as an adult. And one, to kill John Conner while he's trying to organize the resistance.

      Remember, in T2, another of Arnie's arms gets left behind in some gears. Plus, Teradyne would likely have offsite backups. Or something.

      But the point is, that if Skynet could send back one Terminator, it could send back thousands. Now, the logical flaws occur in the 'why would it send back a T-800, then a T-1000, then a T-X? Why not send back a whack of it's top of the line model?' and other such issues, but what can you do?

      Remember, it didn't send one back, wait to see if it worked, send another back, and so on; it sent a whack back. Only one ever needed to work. And if you look at it from a time paradox point of view, if the first Terminator had succeeded in killing Sarah Conner, Teradyne wouldn't have had the chips and what not to reverse-engineer the T-800.

      I think that one of the things we might just find out is that each of the Terminators sent back were also programmed to 'seed' their technology into the world, to *ensure* that Skynet came about.

      This movie could do a fine job of wrapping up several loose ends, or it could simply be a cash grab. We'll see, I guess.

      Oh, and remember, the ORIGINAL ending for T2 specifically showed that the future turned out bright and sunny. They rewrote that to the 'highway' ending to leave it open.

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    3. Re:Continuity by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

      "And if you look at it from a time paradox point of view, if the first Terminator had succeeded in killing Sarah Conner, Teradyne wouldn't have had the chips and what not to reverse-engineer the T-800."

      Right, if you want to go with the consistent-universe theory, then it can easily be explained by "no matter WHAT you send back, physics/history will conspire to not change history in such a way that you send anything but what you sent back".

      Ties it up in a nice little bow. So, perhaps skynet could not possibly have sent back anything but one T800.

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    4. Re:Continuity by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      I personally prefer the observer theory; anything which was observed as happening, will happen. Period. Cannot be altered.

      I think, though that the Terminator series wound up going into the 'many universes' theory of continuum changes; each change creates a branch, and an entirely new reality.

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  131. Perhaps the rest of you already know this, but... by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1

    ... is it in fact known that she isn't a shape shifter? Or that shape shifters aren't otherwise in this one?

  132. An idea for T4 by Poster+Nutbag · · Score: 1

    The Terminator goes back in time and tries to stop James Cameron from making any more movies, but instead kills Jerry Bruckenheimer and Michael Bay in the process.

    The film will be labeled a comedy because of this.

    1. Re:An idea for T4 by Bassman59 · · Score: 1

      The Terminator goes back in time and tries to stop James Cameron from making any more movies, but instead kills Jerry Bruckenheimer and Michael Bay in the process.

      Oooooh! I'd pay to see that.

  133. Go Back to Farkistan where you belong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drew would not be amused.

  134. Baby Boomers in Hollywood - more sequels by cloakes · · Score: 1

    T3, Rocky VI, Mad Max IV - where has creativity gone?

    Baby Boomers (b. 1946-1964) run the world and Hollywood - and they just don't understand. Once in a while new ideas get past them, but it looks like we are in for re-hashed cold-war era "entertainment" until the boomers decide it is time to retire.

    And they won't retire until they've made their fortune making as many sequels as they can mass produce for the next twenty years. There is no reason to not expect:

    Jaws 5, Ghostbusters III, Beverly Hills Cop 3, Batman 4, Crocodile Dundee 4, Jaws 4, Grease 3, Rambo 4, Lethal Weapon 5, Look Who's (still) Talking, Honey I Shrunk the Great Grand Kids, Smokey and the Bandit: 45 in the fast lane with the turn signal on, The Middle-aged Karate Kid, Superman V, Never Die Hard, Airport 20XX........
    I can't wait :/

    Look for the top 100 movies and start appending numerals.
    Future Releases

    1. Re:Baby Boomers in Hollywood - more sequels by cloakes · · Score: 1
  135. Doesnt look so good? by Albinoman · · Score: 1

    We all saw a minute and forty seven second trailer which includes the intro, outro and just black scree. Dont judge a book by its cover and dont judge a movie by its trailer.

    1. Re:Doesnt look so good? by krist0 · · Score: 1

      isnt that the point? arent you supposed to judge wether or not to see a movie because of what you see in the trailer....i know other sources as well, but i assume the trailer is supposed to be representitive of the movie.....least a bit.

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    2. Re:Doesnt look so good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I judge movies by the trailers all the time. Usually if the trailers have Adam Sandler, Rob Schneider, Chris Kattan, Tom Green, and others I don't want to think of right now; I put them on that special list of movies that I will only see if my choice was either: die or see one of those movies. Unfair? No I don't think so.

      The minute-forty of this film we saw in the trailer doesn't look nearly as cool as the first two. T1 was an excellent horror-Scifi movie. T2 was not as much horror as it was Sci-Fi. As far as the Terminator movies go; it should have ended there. But the cow milking must go on and there's money to be made. Cameron was probably smart for leaving after the 2nd; I wouldn't want anything to do with this movie either.

    3. Re:Doesnt look so good? by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      Exactly. When was the last time you saw a trailer that sucked but the movie was great? Ever?
      OTOH, I can't count the number of times the trailer was great but the movie was a POS.

      But hell, even if the story isn't everything it *could* have been, at least we'll set some breasts and shit blowing up.

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  136. Now XMEN2 looks much better... by sapgau · · Score: 1

    Triple the number of nice looking mutants and looks like a better story... can't we switch the discussion to THIS movie?

  137. Cameron lost the rights to "Terminator" by SphericalCow · · Score: 1

    The reason James Cameron, and Gale Anne Hurd, aren't involved is that they lost the rights to the Terminator "brand" years ago, in one of Hollywood's Byzantine rights negotiations. As mentioned before, the only reason Cameron has a writing credit is that he created the characters, and has to have a credit, again because of Hollywood's intricate credits system.

    As such, this second sequel is minus the original producer (Hurd), original director/screenwriter (Cameron), and one of the original stars (Linda Hamilton, who, as others pointed out, refused the script), and it negates the ending of the previous movie.

  138. Raiders IV by Slur · · Score: 2

    And in the new Raiders of the Lost Ark movie Harrison Ford plays his own grandfather.

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  139. To all of you who say "It's just like the others" by Robber+Baron · · Score: 5, Funny
    From thearnoldfans.com:

    Like all Terminators, Kristanna Loken WILL arrive naked.


    Howzat!
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  140. The Problems With T3 by SoVi3t · · Score: 1

    1) John Conner looks too much like a Sissy, rather than the badass from the future in the previous movies... 2) The new girl looks TOO innocent. Innocent evil girls have been played too much. Should have stuck with Chyna...at least Robert Patrick looked badass 3) Der Ah-Nuld looks like he is wearing Michael Jackson's jacket from the 80's.... however, there are some crazy weapons (nice bazooka)....it's good to see Arny using real weapons again, rather than tiny pistols and crap...

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  141. Dodgy by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1

    Terminator = Good movie, good script, ideas, direction, energy, humour. Nice.
    T2 = He's back, but this time he's nice, and has a shiny man to be the baddy.
    T3 = He's back, and [yawn] he's nice again, and this time, it's a lass chasing him. Wow. That's truly lazy.
    And for a film all about special effects [considering the premise, it has no choice] how come the scene in the trailer, where she jumps onto the car, it's so obvious she's on wires, when her trajectory lifts right at the last second?
    I think this film may be a bit phew-wiff.

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    1. Re:Dodgy by btellier · · Score: 2

      Back when T2 came out you posted:

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      T1 = Robot tries to kill a human from the past, a human from the future tries to stop it.

      T2 = Robot tries to kill a human from the past, a robot (ooooh! a robot this time!) from the future triest to stop it.

      OK, what the hell is different about these two movies? The only thing they did is substitute Arnold as the Bad Guy for the Good Guy and make the other guy a robot as well. BOOOORING. Let's get some originality here, not just switch up plot devices.

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  142. Hey, there is a missunderstanding here! by haggar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have already seen Terminator 2!
    Oh this -is- a new episode? Terminator 3? I thought it should be somehow different from the previous two episodes. I thought these people are PAID to be original and creative.

    Joking apart, I am not going to waste my time and money in watching a pathetic re-make of Terminator 2. I wish nobody did, because it's about time that the habit of sqeezing out the last cent from a franchise while adding NO NEW IDEAS, came to an end.

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  143. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by SoVi3t · · Score: 1

    double/triple entendre, perhaps?

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  144. Judgement Day Bit by Icephreak1 · · Score: 1

    The Terminator franchise was unduly fucked when they introduced the comedy called Judgement Day. The first one, although archaic compared to the sequel, had a serious film noir thing happening. In that one, Arnold was FRIGHTENING and very synthetic looking.

    But alas, that's the problem with films these days. They're too pre-chewed for mass consumption, and because of that, good films end up as children's material.

    - IP

  145. hmmm... Re:Been there done that!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    machine gun jubblies...
    how i miss those ba-by?

  146. Movie series usually go downhill. by Animats · · Score: 2
    Name one movie series where #3 was as good as #1. Usually, by #3, it's clear that it's time to stop.

    Rocky? Beverly Hills Cop? ST? SW? Delta Force? Police Academy? By #3, they were all awful.

    1. Re:Movie series usually go downhill. by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      Army of Darkness

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    2. Re:Movie series usually go downhill. by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 2
      ???

      Lord of the Rings?

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  147. Merge Matrix with Terminator by ehiris · · Score: 2

    Since the 2 movies have the same idea about robots taking over the future, a combination between Matrix and Terminator would be kick ass. They could easily retire Arnold that way.

  148. Re:because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's the american way. you know, just like soviet russia demonstrated why communism sucks, usa is demonstrating how democracy sucks. this is one syndrome and example why it sucks. suck suck suck it up up up doesn't stop stop stop 'til we drop drip drop dum-dedumdumdum repeat eat eat what a feat eat eat... OH PLEASE MAKE IT STOP! ..stop stop 'til we drop drip drop

  149. The preview'd this trailer @ lotr, and omfg... by DooBall · · Score: 1

    So much laughs. It was so cheezy, it became a comedy. It pulled a "Glitter".

  150. ROTT? by abischof · · Score: 2

    I couldn't have been the only one hoping for the title "Terminator 3: Rise of the Triad", eh?

    (for those unaware, see also this explanation of 3DRealms' Rise of The Triad)

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  151. FIGHT CLUB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fight Club! Fight Club! Fight Club! Fight Club!

  152. Movies by Quila · · Score: 2

    Lethal Weapon III
    Three Colors: Red

  153. Oddly appropriate error message: by Sits · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was watching the trailer and about three quarters of the way through it crashed with the following:
    Abnormal Termination Error
    How apt.

  154. Heads up display by Quila · · Score: 2

    No more 6502 code scrolling in front of his view again? They did better on the second. Wonder what they'll do for the third.

  155. Scandinavian Women by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm just curious.
    As you may or may not know, the actory playing the T-X is norwegian.

    Do scandinavian women appear as exotic to Americans? For a native norwegian I get a disturbing notion that the T-X is just about to tell the weather forecast or work in the state financial committee. Personally I think this makes her even more scary.

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    1. Re:Scandinavian Women by pgpckt · · Score: 2

      Do scandinavian women appear as exotic to Americans?

      Why yes, they do. If you have gotten tired of them, send them over here :)

      To be fair, I think most foriegners are attractive to most natives of any country. Something off the beaten path will always catch your eye. But, I think among all countries, girls from scandinavian countries, and especially Sweeden, have a special place in most American white males' dreams. Yes, I am serious.

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    2. Re:Scandinavian Women by sql*kitten · · Score: 2

      To be fair, I think most foriegners are attractive to most natives of any country.

      It's probably hardwired into your DNA. In small communities, those most attracted to breeding partners from outside the community would have a higher probability of producing healthy children than all their inbred cousins.

    3. Re:Scandinavian Women by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 2
      • But, I think among all countries, girls from scandinavian countries, and especially Sweeden, have a special place in most American white males' dreams. Yes, I am serious.
      As drenched as most scandinavians are in American pop-culture, this phenomena has certainly not passed me by. However, I always thought it had something to do with the image of girls from "Sinful Sweeden" as being... well... not only easy on the eyes. nudge, nudge, say no more, etc.
      • My Karma is NOT "Excellent", damn it! I want a number score!
      I hear you.
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  156. Imagine a beowulf cluster... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... of--BZZZZT!

  157. Trends by termilitor · · Score: 1

    They should've named the new Terminator "T-XP".

  158. In T4... by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 2, Funny

    John Connor is rescued by Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future.

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    1. Re:In T4... by ciupman · · Score: 1

      Damn i lost my last MOD point .. i would mod this one funny ;) Those CGI bots are still in my memory ...;)

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  159. bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Total trash. I won't go to see this one. This seems to be a "Lets make more money out of Arnie" film. Why don't they just name it Eraser 3 and save the Terminator name from this pile of crap.

    Seriously.. it looks terrible. I doubt it will have anything close to the story of T2 and the SFX will not be as good either. The filming will be poor and alreaddy the dialog seems tired. "John Connor, it is time" WTF?! Since when would the terminator refer to John by his name like that. It's total rubbish.

    And "She'll be back" is just so cheesy.

    Terminator 1 & 2 are SERIOUS movies with a good plot and serious action.. not a fun movie with a chick and shit. Sorry.. but this film should never happen.

    I dread to think what Terminator 4 is going to be like.

  160. Bleh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think its gonna rock! I'd rather see this one than the new LOTR or SW flick :P

  161. I Smell a turd. by RatBastard · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Soory, but this movie looks like it's going to be a festering pile of dung.

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  162. custom php programming and web development scripts by chrisranjana.com · · Score: 1

    terminator 2 was a runaway success so should be terminator 3 be !

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  163. T3 will be *really* difficult to write by Martin+S. · · Score: 2

    I just watched the trailer and am quite disappointed! ...

    I have to agree, the only problem is that if this bomb's for lack of originality, as seems likely, we are unlikely to ever see the *real* T3.

    Mr. Cameron, I thought you could do better then that.

    However, it must be considered that after the beginning that is really the middle; a middle that is really the end, writing the ending that is really the middle, keeping the suspense alive *and* avoiding major parodox problems must be *really* difficult.

  164. Criscist by Martin+S. · · Score: 2

    Oh and by the way, this evil Sky-Net thing you killed in the last movie, it didn't die.

    This gives a whole new spin on Disaster Recovery planning.

  165. Integrity? Morals? by danro · · Score: 1

    Well, since she is already filthy rich, maybe she dont feel like taking part in a sucky movie just to get even richer.
    I hear the concept is called artistic integrity.

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  166. The "I'll Be back" quote.. by ciupman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..will be replaced by this one...

    Terminator : "I'm too "oald" for this shit"
    common middle aged action character quote... (lethal weapon 3, latest Clint Easton movies.. etc etc...)

    Why didn't they use Edward Furlong for this one?

    with 12 years apart from each other (the movies), he would be fit for the role .. and the movie would be more consistent .. (in it's limits ;)) The new John Connor is somewhat blonde .. and the hair is different .. Reminds me the Never Ending Story movies... In the first movie the kid had black hair, in the second he was blonde .. and in the third (yes there was a third) he was black again .. that kid had serious hair attitude :)..

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    1. Re:The "I'll Be back" quote.. by DanBrusca · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they didn't use Furlong because he still looks exactly the same as he did in T2. The guy doesn't get any older!

    2. Re:The "I'll Be back" quote.. by ciupman · · Score: 1

      Well, the guy who made Anakin Skywalker in StarWars 2 is going to be in the 3rd prequel aswell .. and i think that he's going to represent the character in a older stage.. and both movies are only 2 years apart .. For achieving an older (and stronger) aspect he's pumping iron like crazy .. ;). And another thing .. if sfx can make Arnie not so old, those can also make Eduard appear older...

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  167. metallurgy , disaster recover & history by Martin+S. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the lamest explanation they could use.

    It likely the arm of a Terminator contains some distributed neural processing capability consider the Terminator equivalent of muscle memory particularly part of a 'learning machine/computer' with redundant systems and fail-over capability.

    The idea of Cyberdyne using off-site disaster recover or fire safe backup vault are also very credible.

    Building Terminators requires advances in metallurgy.

    There is also the unsettled issue of a batch of steel containing some highly unusually elements, or a part of the liquid metal terminator surviving. There are several clues that detached liquid metal is somewhat autonomous but with reduced effectiveness, how can we be sure it is all accounted for ?

    If a T-800 can self repair it is likely a T-1000 Liquid metal terminator can also, perhaps this is become SkyNet.

    The final point is that we as outside observers know that despite their best efforts, the future is already set. It cannot be changed, otherwise a cause and effect paradox arises. The idea that the heroes can change anything is an error in their knowledge or percecption.

    All that has happened IS history. The T1 & T2 stories, the future fall, the fight for survival, and ultimatly John's victory have already happened.

    1. Re:metallurgy , disaster recover & history by dpt · · Score: 1

      It likely the arm of a Terminator contains some distributed neural processing capability consider the Terminator equivalent of muscle memory particularly part of a 'learning machine/computer' with redundant systems and fail-over capability

      If that were true, then the T800 in T2 would have known that, and made damned sure that he destroyed it. Otherwise his sacrifice is completely in vain.

      Besides, Arnie in T2 clearly says, "there is *one* processor left", and points to his *head*. See?

      Nope, if they do the "they used the arm!" thing I will merely laugh at the utter stupidity of the movie, and avoid it like the plague. There are so many simple ways to get around the "conclusion" of T2, without using the arm, which has got to be the stupidest idea I've heard in a *long* time.

      There is also the unsettled issue of a batch of steel containing some highly unusually elements, or a part of the liquid metal terminator surviving

      That's better. Perhaps some of the "lost" liquid metal (bits did keep breaking off) contains information about the processor. Perhaps it's even like our cells, where our entire DNA is held in each one. It's still not *great* though.

      The idea of Cyberdyne using off-site disaster recover or fire safe backup vault are also very credible

      This is my current favourite, but it makes the characters in T2 look a bit dumb, though.

      Building Terminators requires advances in metallurgy

      You've made a common mistake. The terminators are not really important in the grand scheme of things. Only an accident of history made them so. They are just an infiltration weapon, with autonomous processing capacity. Cyberdyne were not trying to build terminators directly. The important thing is the processor design that leads to the birth of an intelligent machine, Skynet, that then creates any number of intelligent machines, like terminators, hunter/killers, and so on to deal with human resistence. Skynet is the only one who has to worry about metallurgy.

      And besides, what's so special about the metals used in the terminators construction? Not that it matters, but I'm curious - I don't think I've seen anything that indicates it was particularly special.

  168. Uh oh! by briaman · · Score: 1

    Actually, I think the last think we all want is people like *him* getting out more. :-P

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  170. more like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T3 : the fall of someones career

  171. Major beef by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Just have to say it... WHAT KIND OF A FREAKING MORON DECIDED "ARNIE" SHOULD FIRE AN RPG-7 FROM INSIDE A CAR??? The "backblast" would "crisp" both his organics and the car interior.

    Having said that, yeah, I'll probably watch the darn thing - listen for the guy cringing under his seat when the above scene happens, you'll know I'm there.

    I know these things are "flights" of fancy (the machines aren't supposed to take over for, like, 75 more years), but that doesn't excuse them from basic laws of physics!

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  173. My second string Casting call... by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    If they did simply do the "go back in time protecting guardian" thing, it really would be a waste of a good franchise. I mean, how hard would it be to set this entirely in the future, cast Charles Dutton (or some other huge black guy) or Linda Hamilton as the bad Terminator and Arny (I still think he'd do a great job) as the good Ternimator while they romp through a twisted post apocalyptic future dodging all sorts of HK variants??? Ah well.

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  176. 1946-1964? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's odd--I guess my professors were wrong; I was told that the Boomer cohort was ca. 1946-60 (using Strauss & Howe's statistical definition I believe).

    In any case, all of these useless sequels have more to do with the mentality of focus-groups and product testing, which looks at movies as widget-like "product" to the "moved" to the drooling masses. ::Shrug.:: You see the same thing in other countries, though maybe not quite as widespread; "Godzilla" anyone?

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  178. I bet MJ can move better then that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even though they are supposed to be advance robots, why do they still move like, as if there were doing some bad attempt at body popping?

  179. Re:To all of you who say "It's just like the other by dmaxwell · · Score: 2

    Yeah but being a puritannical American movie, they'll just have one side profile shot where all of the interesting bits are covered by arms and legs. After that, there'll be a bunch of neck up shots while she's walking around looking for somebody to mug to clothing and a vehicle. Finally, when she finds her victim we'll see some cheek...very briefly...if we're lucky. After that, the best we'll be able to hope for is a little cleavage and a tiny bit of skin when her clothes get ripped up by all the ordnance that gets poured at her.

  180. "Re: You've Got Mail" by riedquat · · Score: 1

    Credit to TV Go Home for that one

  181. I have some photos from the movie... by Lethyos · · Score: 2

    The evil girl-Terminator can be seen in this photo where she is using her striking appearance to gather intelligence on the primative life forms.

    Some how, I think from this image, I can tell there is a much deeper, more hate-filled conflict being developed here. Anything could happen before this war hits.

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  182. Re:T3 - It's Gimmick Time by gosand · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I have to say that I was impressed with T2, because they took the story in a new direction. They made an even cooler terminator, innovative effects, and did the ol' switcheroo making Arnold the good guy. It was good, and a worthy sequel.

    I know I have just seen a trailer, but it seems like a bandwagon flick. Nothing innovative from what I can see - sorry, making the terminator a chick is just a lame gimmick. This might be a "wait for the rental".

    I gotta say though, hearing that booming theme "Duh Duh Dum Da Dum" still sends chills down my spine.

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  183. Did anyone else think of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Species? At the part in the preview during TTT last night, when they say "she was sent back in time with only one purpose..." all I could think was "to get pregnant!" This must be Species 3, it's mating season again!!

  184. Your girlfriend... by saintan · · Score: 0

    must be lame...mine will be dragging me to see this movie

    besides that, grow some balls and tell her you want to go see it, call some friends and go...

    does she beat you when you forget to take out the trash too!

    sheesh...

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  185. wow youre dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    really really dumb

  186. So, if a strange, attractive, ... by X86Daddy · · Score: 2

    ... athletically-built female begins taking notice of me, I now have a much more plausible explaination!

  187. wrong views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    everybodies down on the female terminator and all...I get the feeling from the T4 story line, with the girl in T4 also, maybe SHE is SKYNET. After all why does the brain have to be a guy, If a geek made skynet then at least *I* would make the brain a sexxy girl. Purhaps if we watched the movie instead of flaming the trailer for a 6 month out movie we might get a great surprise besides the baywatch meets terminator does sound like a few areas can be fun ( arnie looks at the girl and goes something like "my coolant needs to be checked."
    Tazanator

  188. hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hollywood is pretty stupid. they could have milked this more. instead of the current t3 movie, they have one set in the future just as future john sends back the terminator to save past john and the movie continues in the future while we wait for the change in the timeline (if it happens). then have future john and his buddies doing cool things to machines and at the end have past john looking down at arnie going into the molten metal while the camera goes to some technicans setting up a new lab from backups from the blown up lab (from a backup facility) (they should have backups you know) and end movie.

    then t4 and t3 could have continuity. t4 would be the beginnings of skynet. then all future movies could be parallel timelines or eventually even the destruction of skynet using a macintosh computer, who knows...

  189. She'll be back by tedgyz · · Score: 1

    I thought exactly the same thing. This is just a rehash of T2. While T2 was good, T1 is still the better movie.

    However, the buxom new terminator will be a good draw. When the script sucks, just leverage the male libido. Pr0n seems to survive quite well with bad scripts.

    They just HAD to reuse one of the greatest movie lines of all time. In this case, "She'll be back."

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    1. Re:She'll be back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kristanna is a lot of things, but she is not buxom. She is a big girl though standing at 5' 10 1/2.

  190. Re:To all of you who say "It's just like the other by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

    Bubble Bursting (tm) of the day:

    T3 is to be rated PG-13.

    Sorry, folks.

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  191. What the hell is going on??? by __dtrance · · Score: 1

    Why are they all of a sudden making sequels to movies that died a long time ago... T3, and now Rocky VI? Next it'll be Over The Top II, and Commando II.

    1. Re:What the hell is going on??? by azadrozny · · Score: 1

      Personally, I am waiting for Howard the Duck II! :)

  192. Maybe it shouldn't be, plain and simple by Ride-My-Rocket · · Score: 1

    Plus, she looks like she has the acting ability of an anemic toadstool. All she does is scowl and hold her hand forward like she's gonna bang off a Big Bang Attack or something.........

    1. Re:Maybe it shouldn't be, plain and simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's done action work before. If you've ever seen the Mortal Kombat TV series, she was one of the three main heroes, and was fairly believable as a thief/martial artist (although she didn't do her own stunts).

  193. Zhe rice of zhe mah-sheenz by TygerFish · · Score: 1

    Cooler-than LN effects aside, the trailer seems to point out four problems of sequels of sequels predicated on time-travel:

    1. The grandfather paradox: 'You old bastard, I shot you!' 'You didn't! Yes, I did. I swear I did!

    2. You fought your way through hell and solved the biggest problem *ever*. Why is it still here?

    3. How much money does it take to make a writer spread the way that made madonna famous.

    4. Steroids do not help you age well.

    'Again, I am a sai-bohg from zhe fyoo-chuh... Already, I sed to you, 'I'll be beck!'

    God help us all, I can already feel myself trying to cross my legs in the theater...

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  194. For those that don't have audio... by Hard_Code · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...here is the transcript of the trailer:

    In A.D. 2101
    War was beginning.
    Sarah Connor: What happen ?
    Kyle Reese: Somebody set up us the nuclear bomb.
    John Connor: We get signal.
    Sarah Connor: What !
    John Connor: Main screen turn on.
    Sarah Connor: It's You !!
    Terminator: How are you gentlemen !!
    Terminator: All your base are belong to us.
    Terminator: You are on the way to destruction.
    Sarah Connor: What you say !!
    Terminator: You have no chance to survive make your time.
    Terminator: HA HA HA HA .... stalavista
    Sarah Connor: Take off every 'zig' !!
    Sarah Connor: You know what you doing.
    Sarah Connor: Move 'zig'.
    Sarah Connor: For great justice.

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  195. IN SOVIET RUSSIA ...

    You fuck over the MPAA with unoriginal sequels they know won't be good but are going to see anyway.

  196. Hah, you poor soul. by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

    Myfiance wanted to drive to the next largest town (an hour drive) to see Nemesis a week ago, because it wasn't playing locally yet. I told her no dice, I had finals the next day. So she settled on watching Die Another Day instead - but only because Two Towers wasn't out yet.

    And to top it off, she's definately not a cow, cybercow - whatever. She's more attractive than Eowyn, in Two Towers, actually, by quite a bit - but the same basic blonde hair, eyes, and build. :)

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  197. Is that the guy from DS9? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2

    Is John Coner being played by the doctor from Star Trek DS9? Looks like him.

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  198. shessh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you guys are movie snobs

  199. Having actually seen a cut of it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must say that it is better than T2. The best part is the end where John implants a worm into the embryonic SkyNet (shown as a large rackmount supercluster). This happens after the new T kills John's protector but John escapes. The worm inserts logic flaws that cause the machines to fight themselves. Immediately after implanting the worm, another terminator comes back to protect John yet again and succeeds in killing the terminator and then self destructs.

  200. Blue LED fascination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Could somebody please explain this fetish people have for blue LEDs?

    Some time back, I bought a radio whose display was switchable between red and blue. "Fine", I thought, "red is good for night and blue for daylight".

    When my 13-year old son saw it he went nuts about the blue, as if it was the kewlest thing since the PS/2 or something.

    I don't get it. It's just LIGHT. Why don't people go bonkers for, say, green light?

    1. Re:Blue LED fascination by Bassman59 · · Score: 1

      Could somebody please explain this fetish people have for blue LEDs?

      It's the same exact fetish people have for blue M&Ms!

  201. T3 soundtrack by PaxTech · · Score: 2
    According to Ain't It Cool, the original Terminator music that's in the trailer will NOT be used in the actual movie..
    I hate that they'll use Brad Fidel's incredible TERMINATOR theme in the trailers to sell it, but Marco Beltrami has recently said he won't use the theme in the film. That's not fair, damn it.
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  202. Similar to "T2:Infiltrator" book by unusualPerspective · · Score: 1

    There is a book I read called T2:Infiltrator that seems similar to this plot, though not exactly the same. The link has a better summary than I can give.

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    1. Re:Similar to "T2:Infiltrator" book by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Yes, that's one of the ones I linked to in my original post-- I've read that, and its sequel, "Rising Storm." Both were very good.

      The "Dark Futures" book by the other author I mentioned is interesting in another way... it has two timelines told in alternating chapters: One that diverges from T2 in that Sarah *didn't* go after Miles Dyson, and she and John just went into hiding, and Judgment Day happened as foretold; another that picks up the story in 2001 after the successful destruction of Dyson's work-- Sarah and John are living their lives quietly in South America after preventing Judgment Day, but then one day some strange people come calling...

      ~Philly

  203. The Villian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was the only Schwarzenegger film to date in which he killed no people

    What about The Villian? I don't remember him killing anybody in that movie...

  204. Cameron said T3 plays only at Universal Studios by Xandar01 · · Score: 1

    The T2 DVD(super directors platinum whatever edition) has documentary on the making of the T2:3D attraction at Universal Studios. You can go here or here to see more about the ride, which is pretty darn cool. IIRC James Cameron stated in the documentary interview that he thought of T2:3D as T3 playing in only two theaters worldwide.

    I am not sure how I feel about James Cameron not directing this new movie. But since hearing that Linda Hamilton turned down a job after reading the script, I am less than optimistic.

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  205. Re:To all of you who say "It's just like the other by Zed2K · · Score: 1

    Says who? Its not even done yet and therefore hasn't even been submitted to the ratings board yet. Its a pretty safe bet it comes out being R. The site says "This film has not yet been rated"

  206. ok... question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If what you say is true, then this guy really is a turd. However, I am just curious if the above poster considers one who is insulted at the very idea of homosexuality, finds it repulsive and an aboration to humanity and biology is classified as "homophobe." Perhaps I have seen that phrase thrown around erroneously too many times or perhaps I just feel that the PC movement and its subjective and very selective application of "rights" and "opinions" (much less freedom of speech and expression) is lurking nearby. Or perhaps it is more of an academic issue to where I feel that by abusing the term "homophobe" the result is to only bastardize the English language more. By its structure, "homophobe" would seem to entail someone who has a uncontrollable ailment in which the sight, thought and idea of homosexuality results in a base fear response that cannot be controlled like other fear inducing stimilus for a human. Like someone who can have a lifetime being shot at and living on the edge to freak out when a spider is near them, a homophobe would not be able to control themselves. I would think that pity and that "love and concern" that liberals seem to sell themselves as being the only beings in the universe to contain should then be applied in full. Or perhaps that is opening up the can of worms about how liberals are in reality the most closed minds in said universe and seek merely to act out the violent and aggressive intentions through their cover of "causes" and "concerns."

  207. T2:3D Battle Across Time by eldb · · Score: 1

    Actually, James Cameron did write a third Terminator movie. At Universal Studios Hollywood, Arnold, John and Sarah go "Back to the Future" and destroy Skynet. Plot info is here.

    It is a good show, especially when they spray freezing cold water on you to simulate the Terminator exploding.

    Interesting trivia from that page:

    # Running only 12 minutes and costing $60 million averages to $5 million per minute of film, the most expensive of any movie in history.

    # When John and the Terminator go into the future Sarah stays behind to hold off the T-1000. When John and the Terminator arrive in the future the T-1000 comes through the portal after them. According to Cameron the only way that the T-1000 could have gotten past Sarah is to kill her. In his mind that means that Sarah is dead. As Linda Hamilton is not going to be returning in T3 Sarah is probably dead.

    # The Cyberdyne theater is called the "Miles Bennett Dyson building", after the research scientist (Joe Morton) who was killed in the explosion at the original Cyberdyne building.

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  208. THANKS, MAN! by THANKS,+MAN! · · Score: 1

    THANKS, MAN!

  209. I'm GLAD Cameron isn't directing by el_gregorio · · Score: 1
    ... otherwise we'd see a new Terminator model, the T-32F/0C, going back in time to kill John Conner's great-great grandmother by transforming into an iceberg and destroying the "unsinkable" cruise ship on which she is a passenger.

    heh heh, change the story so that Celine Dion is the victim, and it might actually be worth seeing.

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  210. New Link by Zapaanese_Wh0re · · Score: 1

    Here.

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  211. IN FEUDAL JAPAN... by R33MSpec · · Score: 1

    Bushido (The Way of the Samurai) prevailed over any 'machine'.

  212. Hello? Spoiler alert please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of us might not have seen the new movie or read the book yet. Some people are so inconsiderate.

  213. Re:Moderators: Parent is a goatse.cx link via Goog by vladkrupin · · Score: 1

    Everyone know that crashing in a car hurts. Many have experienced it firsthand. According to your reasoning, this warrants removing all the stop lights and warning signs, right?

    I saw that picture long time ago by clicking on a misleading link on slashdot. It was more than enough not to want to see it ever again. Innocent or not I am, it still just hurt my brain. Or 'traumatizes' it, if you will. If you don't find it offensive, you are more than welcome to blow it up and make it your wallpaper or something like that - go right ahead. Others may disagree.

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