Antelope Technologies, what a great name! I wonder if "Gazel" or "Mule Deer" technologies is taken? Nothing like an ugly cousin of the deer to make me think fast, compact technology. Then again, the antelope is very fast.
Don't forget web services. This is a cross platform standard (or soon to be) that works quite well. I currently am building an ASP.NET web site that consumes web services from an Apache implementation of SOAP and WSDL. I found this Apache based service in the Microsoft UDDI. It works very well!
As far as the ASP.NET framework goes, I have learned the good, bad and ugly. If you don't use server side controls for most things, you actually determine that vast portion of the code going out to the browser. Also, you can leave ASP.NET in flow-layout mode and at HTML3.2, which seems to work fairly well with Nutscrape. With traditional ASP, I have to learn to NEVER use session and application objects. I am learning some similar idiosyncrasies exist in ASP.NET.
The most annoying thing in using ASP.NET, VB.NET, C# or ADO.NET, is having to say ".NET" all of the f@#%ing time (sorry goes out to all cartoons out there for the curse). I am now just calling the technoliges "VB 7", etc. C# is a cool little name, though.
First, I would like to comment to the Anonymous Coward suggesting I am an MS infiltrator. That gave me a really good laugh! I should state that I program about 80% of my stuff for Windows 2000 servers. That is just where my career has led me.
Second, I think that open minded and intelligent people would hope that MS employees would hang out at Slashdot. Perhaps intelligent and well thought out comments might have an impact on those you would consider your enemies.
First, I would like to post a link to an MSDN article on Microsoft's attempt to build a.NET implementation on FreeBSD.
Second, I am a C# and VB.NET programmer. I have really enjoyed using the new VS.NET, and love ASP.NET. The way it treats web pages with an event model is very, very cool. As I am also a PHP programmer, I consider ASP.NET, concept wise, a giant leap ahead of PHP.
VS.NET runs a bit slow on my 400 MHz machine, but cruises along smoothly on my 1.6 GHz laptop. Plus, it handles much better than Sun's Forte, a comparable product that would let me build comparable software solutions.
Third, I am VERY excited to be made aware of MONO! I have done quite a bit of Java programming in my past, and am glad to have a better alternative to it for building enterprise level applications on Linux. I have not had the level of "undocumented features" bite me in my.NET programs as I have in VC++, VB6 or Java. Say what you will about the evil empire, but the.NET framework is a very well thought through, nice behaving programming platform. I wish the MONO team the best of luck, and am thinking of volunteering!
Fourth (and finally) I have been teaching some VB.NET and C# classes. I have found all of my students walking away from the classes wanting to use.NET, including Linux programmers. I would tell you hardcore MS haters out there to at least try out.NET, especially if it is going to be implemented on Linux. I think you will find that it could be a great tool for you to build software with, if you take of the blinders. After all, why not take what is Microsoft's big marketing push and turn it against them on Linux?
One of the problems with Linux is that for non-nerds, it can be a bit difficult. Let's face it, everyone is growing up in a PC/MAC school system, and using GUI interfaces that have years of development compared to X. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Linux. But I am a nerd, and can get around the little idiosyncrasies Linux presents as a desktop OS.
However, wouldn't ad ware help with funding to provide things like tech support for those among us that are not computer geeks? While many faithful and brilliant programmers are working on the code, how much user-friendly documentation, help files, and good old fashion tech support is built into your Linux OS? Sure, I can search on Google and find a good white paper how to do whatever in Linux, but can my 60 yo father? I am sure a lot of people out there would take a free OS, with some ads, if they knew they had some tech support. Is this not at least something to look at? Just an idea.....
Uh, no. This was not a California court, this was the Ninth Circuit Court (Federal). That means this decision not only applies to the most populated state in the Union (California), but also to Washington, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Nevada and Arizona.
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Antelope Technologies, what a great name! I wonder if "Gazel" or "Mule Deer" technologies is taken? Nothing like an ugly cousin of the deer to make me think fast, compact technology. Then again, the antelope is very fast.
You couldn't be more wrong: MSDN Article on the .NET framework on FreeBSD.
Don't forget web services. This is a cross platform standard (or soon to be) that works quite well. I currently am building an ASP.NET web site that consumes web services from an Apache implementation of SOAP and WSDL. I found this Apache based service in the Microsoft UDDI. It works very well!
As far as the ASP.NET framework goes, I have learned the good, bad and ugly. If you don't use server side controls for most things, you actually determine that vast portion of the code going out to the browser. Also, you can leave ASP.NET in flow-layout mode and at HTML3.2, which seems to work fairly well with Nutscrape. With traditional ASP, I have to learn to NEVER use session and application objects. I am learning some similar idiosyncrasies exist in ASP.NET. The most annoying thing in using ASP.NET, VB.NET, C# or ADO.NET, is having to say ".NET" all of the f@#%ing time (sorry goes out to all cartoons out there for the curse). I am now just calling the technoliges "VB 7", etc. C# is a cool little name, though.
First, I would like to comment to the Anonymous Coward suggesting I am an MS infiltrator. That gave me a really good laugh! I should state that I program about 80% of my stuff for Windows 2000 servers. That is just where my career has led me. Second, I think that open minded and intelligent people would hope that MS employees would hang out at Slashdot. Perhaps intelligent and well thought out comments might have an impact on those you would consider your enemies.
First, I would like to post a link to an MSDN article on Microsoft's attempt to build a .NET implementation on FreeBSD.
Second, I am a C# and VB.NET programmer. I have really enjoyed using the new VS.NET, and love ASP.NET. The way it treats web pages with an event model is very, very cool. As I am also a PHP programmer, I consider ASP.NET, concept wise, a giant leap ahead of PHP. VS.NET runs a bit slow on my 400 MHz machine, but cruises along smoothly on my 1.6 GHz laptop. Plus, it handles much better than Sun's Forte, a comparable product that would let me build comparable software solutions.
Third, I am VERY excited to be made aware of MONO! I have done quite a bit of Java programming in my past, and am glad to have a better alternative to it for building enterprise level applications on Linux. I have not had the level of "undocumented features" bite me in my .NET programs as I have in VC++, VB6 or Java. Say what you will about the evil empire, but the .NET framework is a very well thought through, nice behaving programming platform. I wish the MONO team the best of luck, and am thinking of volunteering!
Fourth (and finally) I have been teaching some VB.NET and C# classes. I have found all of my students walking away from the classes wanting to use .NET, including Linux programmers. I would tell you hardcore MS haters out there to at least try out .NET, especially if it is going to be implemented on Linux. I think you will find that it could be a great tool for you to build software with, if you take of the blinders. After all, why not take what is Microsoft's big marketing push and turn it against them on Linux?
One of the problems with Linux is that for non-nerds, it can be a bit difficult. Let's face it, everyone is growing up in a PC/MAC school system, and using GUI interfaces that have years of development compared to X. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Linux. But I am a nerd, and can get around the little idiosyncrasies Linux presents as a desktop OS.
However, wouldn't ad ware help with funding to provide things like tech support for those among us that are not computer geeks? While many faithful and brilliant programmers are working on the code, how much user-friendly documentation, help files, and good old fashion tech support is built into your Linux OS? Sure, I can search on Google and find a good white paper how to do whatever in Linux, but can my 60 yo father? I am sure a lot of people out there would take a free OS, with some ads, if they knew they had some tech support. Is this not at least something to look at? Just an idea.....
Uh, no. This was not a California court, this was the Ninth Circuit Court (Federal). That means this decision not only applies to the most populated state in the Union (California), but also to Washington, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Nevada and Arizona.