Yes, because we all know that rich people have mounds of cash sitting in their safes. They would never loan it out to other people (invest) so they could make more money. They'd never purchase stocks or real estate to try to make more money. They'd never build bigger corporations (more jobs/construction) with that money. Its all just buried in the backyard.
This whole "coat hangers" argument just ticks me off. How is that ever a reason to legalize abortion? Do we have to legalize everything because "people will be safer when they do it anyway".
Thats like legalizing biological weapons because people are going to build them anyway. We'd rather they build them "safely".
"It's wrong to use abortion as a sole means of birth-control, but it is more wrong to punish women who are responsible(have sex, use contraception), but have an unplanned pregnancy by removing the abortion option."
How is having sex (even using contraception) and getting pregnant a responsible thing? You may not have noticed but there is NO contraception that is 100% effective. It even says it on the package of every contraception you can buy. Not planning for that other.01 to 5% is IRresponsible. If you can't handle it, don't have sex. Why do we have to punish the baby because we "didn't plan for it".
"And as for the genetics thing - I don't know if it is genetics or not, but people should have free will."
I forgot to address this one. You can do it using common sense. Assuming we somehow mutated a "gay" gene at some point. It would be naturally eliminated through natural selection. Unless you can say that it is a naturally occuring mutation (or disease if you will) that occurs numerous times.
"You want the government to make choices for you, to decide what you are allowed to do to your own body"
I don't get it. How can a person think: "kill the innocent, free the guilty" I don't care what you do with your body. Unfortunately the babies aren't really given that choice though.
"I don't have any opinion on abortion at all" yes, you do, or you wouldnt me arguing with me. And in regards to your stance that we shouldn't punish murderers because we have made mistakes in the past. Thats ridiculous.
"unless you consider your wife to be your property and you only have sex to have kids"
If you could win a debate on that stance using only the bible, I would be impressed. However, that is a perverted view and can only be supported by taking verses out of context, in my opinion of course.
"Why isn't it OK to have two mommies or two daddies?" Aside from my personal beliefs, its been shown in many studies that families with one father, and one mother are much more likely to succeed. children of Gay couples were more prone to suicide, eating disorders, violent crimes, pregnant teens, have children out of wedlock, and all of these things... You can feel free to spout your opinions on why you feel it would be better to be "together" through tough times, but that is basing decisions on emotions.
"And children should be taught to be who they want to be - not who they should or should not"
I really don't care what gay couples do in their own privacy, however, when the courts start deciding that I must allow my child to be taught something that is against my morals and beliefs, I refuse. You can keep those religious views to yourself.
I don't have any problems enforcing punishment for bad choices that people make. I think that people should be held accountable for their actions.
I'm not sure where you begin to draw the line because you *might* have made a mistake. Do we put people in prison for life if there may be a mistake? I don't know where you draw the line. There will always be mistakes, there always has been. I realize that sucks, but it doesn't mean we should stop punishing people in general. I personally don't want to be the guy that throws the switch for a living. But I wouldn't think less of anyone who was.
I'm not sure that's related to public laws. I must admit, I didn't read the whole thing. But, if you feel strongly about it, I hope you will vote for a candidate that will do something about it. Or better yet, do something about it yourself.
Personally, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. I support my local adoption agencies, and my local teen pregnancy centers. I also vote Pro-Life
"Killing un-born babies is bad - Double standard. Aren't you supposed to 'Turn the Other Cheek'. Or that's just outdated right, just like the 'Sodom and omorrah' story - oh no, another double standard."
It is not a double standard to protect the innocent, and punish the guilty. You can't turn the other cheek as babies are being slaughtered. It is the same to me as if they were 5 yrs old, and you want me to turn the other cheek? Sodom and Gomorrah was hardly innocent. If you're truly interested in that Bible passage, you should probably read it. <URL:http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?pas sage=GEN+19&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on &showxref=on>
"Don't want to share? That's greed - a deadly sin."
Perhaps greed is involved, I am human. I am a sinner, and I think all sins are deadly. Thankfully, God sent his Son to pay for our sins (through his death on the Cross) as a perfect substitue for our sins.
However, I don't feel it selfish that I don't want my child to be required to learn that it is OK to have two daddies or two mommies in his grade school though. Or worse yet, that its genetic. That's just plain foolish.
"Seperation of church and state people. Keep YOUR god out of OUR government." Actually, it should be "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Keep your government out of my God.
1. I won't be voting for Rush Limbaugh. I will let the courts decide if he is guilty of drug possesion though, not the media. I personally can't stand listening to Rush.
2. I support the death penalty. I realize innocent men have been sentenced to death. There is no perfect world. Should we just let everyone go if we make mistakes occasionally?
3. I believe if I base my votes on things that are important to me, I am normal not "narrow".
4. I agree that "what someone else does in their own bedroom is a matter of the government." I don't want to support them with my social security payments, or require my kids to hear that its acceptable behavior for them in school.
5. my mind is not closed, but I do have convictions.
6. I also would hope that a Rape victim didn't have to punish her child by killing it for something a sick-o criminal did to her. If she doesn't want to have her child, I would hope she could give it up for adoption to a loving family that would even pay for her pregnancy. People that can't have kids are dying to be given a chance. Also, I'm not sure why Rape is the leading argument for abortion. Its been estimated that less than 1% of the abortions performed in the US are for this reason. If you feel that strongly about it, perhaps they could allow abortions for rape victims, it would be a huge improvement in my opinion.
By the way, I think that rapist should be put to death.
"The Supreme Court didn't "legalize abortion", it ruled that the states can't criminalize it. And the federal government has made no laws to criminalize it."
They overturned laws making abortion illegal = legalizing abortion.
"If the "religious" forces expressed half the love for babies that they do for foetuses, maybe I'd feel differently about this."
I'm trying to figure out what you mean here. I would hope that if people were "legally" slaughtering babies by the thousands, you would have the same public outcry as you do now for abortions. That sounds like a poor argument to me. Are you saying that babies are mistreated now because of of public law?
I'm a christian, I will be voting for Bush, not because he is a christian, but because his platform aligns most closely with my own convictions.
Do I trust Bush will make all his decisions like I would want? No, I'm a realist. But I know where he stands on the issues I feel are important. And I also know he has a history of standing up for the issues he believes in.
By the way, I will be voting Pro-Life first and foremost. If I can get lower taxes, thats a bonus.
Walking: Hold the cane in the hand opposite the injury or weakness (for example, you would hold the cane in your right hand if your left leg is the injured leg). Keep your elbow close to your body and your hand near your hip. Your hand should not move forward or out to the side; you should just pivot the wrist joint. Move the cane forward as you step forward with the bad leg. When weight is placed on the bad leg the cane will give support from the opposite side. Step past the cane with the good foot.
Going up and down stairs: When you are going upstairs, lead with the good leg ("up with the good"). Then bring the bad leg and cane up the step. When you go down stairs, the cane and bad leg go first ("down with the bad").
Getting up from a chair: When getting out of a chair slide the foot of your bad leg forward a little, push out of the chair using the hand on the weak or injured side and stand with your weight on the good leg. Use the cane to support your weight over the bad leg.
Heres a picture: http://www.medformation.com/ac/crssma.ns f/file/crs -sma-art.cane
You have to realize that those are direct costs of the materials, and have nothing to do with the costs they accumulate. They have so many costs you never think about: salaries of employees, utilities bills, equipment, maintenance, advertisements, food that is never sold, coffee lawsuits, taxes.
None of those are included in your 10 cent hamburger cost. The only time you can even begin to think of it that way is when you sell *1 more* hamburger than you normally would, assuming its not because of an additional promotional advertisement.
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Yes, because we all know that rich people have mounds of cash sitting in their safes. They would never loan it out to other people (invest) so they could make more money. They'd never purchase stocks or real estate to try to make more money. They'd never build bigger corporations (more jobs/construction) with that money. Its all just buried in the backyard.
This whole "coat hangers" argument just ticks me off. How is that ever a reason to legalize abortion? Do we have to legalize everything because "people will be safer when they do it anyway".
Thats like legalizing biological weapons because people are going to build them anyway. We'd rather they build them "safely".
"It's wrong to use abortion as a sole means of birth-control, but it is more wrong to punish women who are responsible(have sex, use contraception), but have an unplanned pregnancy by removing the abortion option."
.01 to 5% is IRresponsible. If you can't handle it, don't have sex. Why do we have to punish the baby because we "didn't plan for it".
How is having sex (even using contraception) and getting pregnant a responsible thing? You may not have noticed but there is NO contraception that is 100% effective. It even says it on the package of every contraception you can buy. Not planning for that other
By the way, I was an "unplanned pregnancy"
"And as for the genetics thing - I don't know if it is genetics or not, but people should have free will."
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I forgot to address this one. You can do it using common sense. Assuming we somehow mutated a "gay" gene at some point. It would be naturally eliminated through natural selection. Unless you can say that it is a naturally occuring mutation (or disease if you will) that occurs numerous times.
People Do have free will. The bible actually talks about it. http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?languag
"You want the government to make choices for you, to decide what you are allowed to do to your own body"
I don't get it. How can a person think: "kill the innocent, free the guilty" I don't care what you do with your body. Unfortunately the babies aren't really given that choice though.
"I don't have any opinion on abortion at all"
yes, you do, or you wouldnt me arguing with me. And in regards to your stance that we shouldn't punish murderers because we have made mistakes in the past. Thats ridiculous.
"unless you consider your wife to be your property and you only have sex to have kids"
If you could win a debate on that stance using only the bible, I would be impressed. However, that is a perverted view and can only be supported by taking verses out of context, in my opinion of course.
"Why isn't it OK to have two mommies or two daddies?"
Aside from my personal beliefs, its been shown in many studies that families with one father, and one mother are much more likely to succeed. children of Gay couples were more prone to suicide, eating disorders, violent crimes, pregnant teens, have children out of wedlock, and all of these things... You can feel free to spout your opinions on why you feel it would be better to be "together" through tough times, but that is basing decisions on emotions.
"And children should be taught to be who they want to be - not who they should or should not"
I really don't care what gay couples do in their own privacy, however, when the courts start deciding that I must allow my child to be taught something that is against my morals and beliefs, I refuse. You can keep those religious views to yourself.
I don't have any problems enforcing punishment for bad choices that people make. I think that people should be held accountable for their actions.
I'm not sure where you begin to draw the line because you *might* have made a mistake. Do we put people in prison for life if there may be a mistake? I don't know where you draw the line. There will always be mistakes, there always has been. I realize that sucks, but it doesn't mean we should stop punishing people in general. I personally don't want to be the guy that throws the switch for a living. But I wouldn't think less of anyone who was.
I'm not sure that's related to public laws. I must admit, I didn't read the whole thing. But, if you feel strongly about it, I hope you will vote for a candidate that will do something about it. Or better yet, do something about it yourself.
Personally, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. I support my local adoption agencies, and my local teen pregnancy centers. I also vote Pro-Life
I read this several times, and I'm still not sure I get what you're trying to say. You're saying its a sin to throw the switch?
Fun indeed.
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"Killing un-born babies is bad - Double standard. Aren't you supposed to 'Turn the Other Cheek'. Or that's just outdated right, just like the 'Sodom and omorrah' story - oh no, another double standard."
It is not a double standard to protect the innocent, and punish the guilty. You can't turn the other cheek as babies are being slaughtered. It is the same to me as if they were 5 yrs old, and you want me to turn the other cheek? Sodom and Gomorrah was hardly innocent. If you're truly interested in that Bible passage, you should probably read it. <URL:http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?pa
"Don't want to share? That's greed - a deadly sin."
Perhaps greed is involved, I am human. I am a sinner, and I think all sins are deadly. Thankfully, God sent his Son to pay for our sins (through his death on the Cross) as a perfect substitue for our sins.
However, I don't feel it selfish that I don't want my child to be required to learn that it is OK to have two daddies or two mommies in his grade school though. Or worse yet, that its genetic. That's just plain foolish.
"Seperation of church and state people. Keep YOUR god out of OUR government."
Actually, it should be "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Keep your government out of my God.
1. I won't be voting for Rush Limbaugh. I will let the courts decide if he is guilty of drug possesion though, not the media. I personally can't stand listening to Rush.
2. I support the death penalty. I realize innocent men have been sentenced to death. There is no perfect world. Should we just let everyone go if we make mistakes occasionally?
3. I believe if I base my votes on things that are important to me, I am normal not "narrow".
4. I agree that "what someone else does in their own bedroom is a matter of the government." I don't want to support them with my social security payments, or require my kids to hear that its acceptable behavior for them in school.
5. my mind is not closed, but I do have convictions.
6. I also would hope that a Rape victim didn't have to punish her child by killing it for something a sick-o criminal did to her. If she doesn't want to have her child, I would hope she could give it up for adoption to a loving family that would even pay for her pregnancy. People that can't have kids are dying to be given a chance. Also, I'm not sure why Rape is the leading argument for abortion. Its been estimated that less than 1% of the abortions performed in the US are for this reason. If you feel that strongly about it, perhaps they could allow abortions for rape victims, it would be a huge improvement in my opinion.
By the way, I think that rapist should be put to death.
Who are you to determine which issues are most important to me?
Am I supposed to be concerned about medicare when I'm 25? Even still, I wouldn't vote for Kerry because his "plan" isn't even plausible.
"The Supreme Court didn't "legalize abortion", it ruled that the states can't criminalize it. And the federal government has made no laws to criminalize it."
They overturned laws making abortion illegal = legalizing abortion.
How is that different?
"If the "religious" forces expressed half the love for babies that they do for foetuses, maybe I'd feel differently about this."
I'm trying to figure out what you mean here. I would hope that if people were "legally" slaughtering babies by the thousands, you would have the same public outcry as you do now for abortions. That sounds like a poor argument to me. Are you saying that babies are mistreated now because of of public law?
I'm a christian, I will be voting for Bush, not because he is a christian, but because his platform aligns most closely with my own convictions.
Do I trust Bush will make all his decisions like I would want? No, I'm a realist. But I know where he stands on the issues I feel are important. And I also know he has a history of standing up for the issues he believes in.
By the way, I will be voting Pro-Life first and foremost. If I can get lower taxes, thats a bonus.
Actually, it means:
"I have not heard todays polls to decide whether it will get me more votes or not."
I forgot to mention that putting the cane on the opposite side also makes for a wider weight displacement, and more importantly - better balance.
Walking: Hold the cane in the hand opposite the injury or weakness (for example, you would hold the cane in your right hand if your left leg is the injured leg). Keep your elbow close to your body and your hand near your hip. Your hand should not move forward or out to the side; you should just pivot the wrist joint. Move the cane forward as you step forward with the bad leg. When weight is placed on the bad leg the cane will give support from the opposite side. Step past the cane with the good foot.
s f/file/crs -sma-art.cane
Going up and down stairs: When you are going upstairs, lead with the good leg ("up with the good"). Then bring the bad leg and cane up the step. When you go down stairs, the cane and bad leg go first ("down with the bad").
Getting up from a chair: When getting out of a chair slide the foot of your bad leg forward a little, push out of the chair using the hand on the weak or injured side and stand with your weight on the good leg. Use the cane to support your weight over the bad leg.
Heres a picture:
http://www.medformation.com/ac/crssma.n
You should really have someone teach your mom how to use a cane correctly. Right hand= left leg. Left Hand = Right leg. Just like when you're walking.
My wife teaches people that for a living.
You have to realize that those are direct costs of the materials, and have nothing to do with the costs they accumulate. They have so many costs you never think about: salaries of employees, utilities bills, equipment, maintenance, advertisements, food that is never sold, coffee lawsuits, taxes.
None of those are included in your 10 cent hamburger cost. The only time you can even begin to think of it that way is when you sell *1 more* hamburger than you normally would, assuming its not because of an additional promotional advertisement.
Yes, and then the checkout clerk kicked them in the nuts.
Congrats, your car is the same as an extremely overpriced rebadged camry. Way to go.
Well, we could produce a nuclear powered SUV that would run on very little gas too. But it doesn't mean it would be any cheaper.
And how much did they cost to produce/maintain?
YOu mean like
Pork & Beans?