Pot and LSD are hallucinogens. LSD and pot have been associated with violent and psychotic episodes, hallucinogen persisting perceptual disorders and flashbacks, and strongly correlated to psychotic illnesses. And physical withdrawal symptoms have been demonstrated.
Yeah, alcohol is so bad, but normal people use it, just like drugs. I guess that blows a hole in your suggested theory that 'normal' people don't abuse substances, or that being normal has anything to do with anything.
Well, you should look up non sequitur while you're at it, because a rant about how bad alcohol is has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. NOTHING. You have proven my point about the level of retardation that people like you have afflicted on wikipedia.
You're like a child crying "He hit me first!" as if that makes hitting okay. It doesn't. Nor does the legality of alcohol make other drugs' negative consequences less negative.
"Neither is toxic...while alcohol is."
Ha ha ha, heroin is totally non-toxic, but rather, the health problems are from the pestilent lifestyle associated with addiction.
We wouldn't save money legalizing drugs, we'd spend more, on the variety of problems related to drug abuse, which is one of the reasons substances have to be controlled?
Sure, they can get addicted to anything, but they tend to do it more based on and because of drug exposure. And those drugs typically have a consequence on the brain of users, and their families, and society, who bears the brunt of negative side effects of drug abuse.
If there's a tendency to abuse a drug, then shouldn't there be some sort of controls in place for abused substances?
Yeah, either that, or they die, hallucinate, become paranoid, psychotic, and/or develop protracted flashback/depersonalization disorders. etc. etc. etc.
Wah wah What!? Contraceptives?! If people took MDMA as lengthily and as frequently as they take contraceptives, or other drugs, I'd bet the number of MDMA deaths would be much higher. This is an example of the type of nonsense people like you are trying to fool people with, so they mistakenly think drugs are safe.
Don't call yourself factoid. Call yourself mythoid. It has a drug sound to it, which makes you so cool, and apparently, a complete idiot.
Whatever. Drugging people to pay taxes so drugs can be legal I think is highly unethical. It's not a 'simple' compromise. Look at tobacco and alcohol. People get plastered and run over children, and smokers can hardly pay rent while they poison everyone around them.
Sorry, pal. Growing them in your basement doesn't make them legal. I think it's sad that closed-minded junkies like you fail to realize that no one cares about you're lengthy trips through insanity.
Yeah, and there's a lot of (anti-meth in some states, and) anti-tobacco TV going on now too. Call it propaganda if you want. I think it's good. I don't want my kids using drugs.
Although, I wouldn't say the suggestion that drug use can lead to you being a low-life is "disinformation."
I think if people didn't go completely bonkers after taking drugs, no one would care to ban them. Every time there's a new drug that comes out, there's all sorts of bizarre acting weirdos that go on the TV telling us all how PCP is going to revolutionize the world and cure all mental illnesses and be used to treat depression and go on spiritual journeys while they're molesting each other, but instead, it usually just makes people schizophrenic. If you people would calm the hell down, and stop acting like a bunch of out-of-control morons, then maybe no one would care.
Erowid and wikipedia have got to be the worst source of medical opinions on the Internet, you fool. People like YOU write those articles on wikipedia, and that makes them full of bite.
Next time you're trying to push drugs as safe, maybe try to lay off the cries of "conspiracy, propaganda, and brainwashing." It makes you sound schizophrenic, which you probably are, from the drugs.
Addiction is addiction. People always split hairs about it, as if one type is not as bad as another so it's okay, but what I see from people is a bunch of baloney about how their drug of choice is not addictive like crack, but it's all they can talk about, and it's all they want to do, and they become crazy drug preachers that cry foul whenever someone mentions a negative about drugs. Like how about research that says that marijuana is actually addictive, or that there's a 41% increased risk of developing psychotic illnesses in people with no history of mental illness.
Oh, but tobacco is SO BAD FOR YOU AND ADDICTIVE. And no one disputes that, but marijuana is totally harmless, and don't you dare say anything about it, because you're part of the vast government conspiracy.
So if drugs can make you so, that, then as far as I'm concerned, they make you addicted and CRAZY.
The drugs have made you a radical. No one said that caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol were good, non-addictive substances.
Death is just one bad thing that can happen to you from drugs. You can also cause changes in the brain which can lead to mental illness.
Wikipedia is a terrible source for information about drugs, as it's written by the masses, who have warped concepts on the drug issue. And that includes you. No one should listen to this garbage about how unlikely you are to die from a drug based on you're fabulous medical opinions that you crafted by using drugs and going on the Internet to write about them.
Wow! I think it's a good idea for consumers to put our money where our mouths are. Everyone should send money to them, and maybe WE'll get press this time, saying we won't stand for Luddism.
I ask Diane whether it bothers her to have her mental health regulated by a machine, and she shakes her head. For the most part, she says, she forgets there's a stimulator stuffed under her chest muscles and two wires snaking up her neck, into the depths of her brain. "I wake up every morning and feel like I control how the day's going to be and don't even think about, 'Oh, gosh, I hope it's still on,' " she says. "It feels like I have the power."
I'm Alicia, and um... I wanna join Gay Helpline because... if I could prevent just *one* gay teen from putting a bullet through his head and make him stand up and shout "I'm gay... *gay*! And if you don't like it, you can all go "FUCK YOURSELVES, YOU TWISTED MOTHERFUCKERS!" then I'll be happy.
Well, okay, I didn't mean that you should do nothing, literally, but that you should use that car for grocery shopping, and your other car for anything else. Or disable it when you want some privacy. My instinct would be to freak out about it, and trash it, but that might get one in trouble. I'm just saying don't panic and sell it on e-bay. If you did take it out, you should return it, but then maybe they'll find a more insidious way to track you?
It seems to me that every time someone exposes the police over some kind of injustice, that person always ends up in jail for something trivial.
Yes, that is exactly what he should have done. Leave them in, and live life normally. I think this is the best advice, this far in the thread. Though I did like the one about mailing it, but it's not wise.
Fine. Let's say that K-mart decided that any person they deem to be gay looking will be forcefully ejected from their store. Yes, gay people can shop elsewhere, but they shouldn't have to. Moreover, simply shopping elsewhere isn't going to change anything, if we assume that gays make up 10% of the population.
A more common bias against someone with schizophrenia is they're scary, dangerous killers. I don't know exactly how true that is, though it's obviously not true for all (or probably a large majority).
Some schizophrenics are dangerous in that way, however, I hear, not from the voices, but from the statistics, someone drinking is far more dangerous. But people don't make a big deal about that fact. I'm sure there's no database on potentially homicidal drinkers. Anyone drinking would have that potential though.
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Pot and LSD are hallucinogens. LSD and pot have been associated with violent and psychotic episodes, hallucinogen persisting perceptual disorders and flashbacks, and strongly correlated to psychotic illnesses. And physical withdrawal symptoms have been demonstrated.
Reasoned arguments? Ha ha ha ha ha!
Yeah, alcohol is so bad, but normal people use it, just like drugs. I guess that blows a hole in your suggested theory that 'normal' people don't abuse substances, or that being normal has anything to do with anything.
Well, you should look up non sequitur while you're at it, because a rant about how bad alcohol is has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand. NOTHING. You have proven my point about the level of retardation that people like you have afflicted on wikipedia.
You're like a child crying "He hit me first!" as if that makes hitting okay. It doesn't. Nor does the legality of alcohol make other drugs' negative consequences less negative.
"Neither is toxic...while alcohol is."
Ha ha ha, heroin is totally non-toxic, but rather, the health problems are from the pestilent lifestyle associated with addiction.
We wouldn't save money legalizing drugs, we'd spend more, on the variety of problems related to drug abuse, which is one of the reasons substances have to be controlled?
I did research, and I'm also not an idiot. I can spot all the misinformation. It always occurs after something negative is mentioned:
People die from MDMA... BUT ALC)oHOLE IS BaD!!!1 ANd CONTRACEPTIVES!!
People go crazy on MDMA.... BuT MAYBE THeY We..ARe CRAZY ALREADy!!! SEe??? It's like the chicken and egg, and a Government Conspiracy!
Sure, they can get addicted to anything, but they tend to do it more based on and because of drug exposure. And those drugs typically have a consequence on the brain of users, and their families, and society, who bears the brunt of negative side effects of drug abuse.
If there's a tendency to abuse a drug, then shouldn't there be some sort of controls in place for abused substances?
Yeah, either that, or they die, hallucinate, become paranoid, psychotic, and/or develop protracted flashback/depersonalization disorders. etc. etc. etc.
Wah wah What!? Contraceptives?! If people took MDMA as lengthily and as frequently as they take contraceptives, or other drugs, I'd bet the number of MDMA deaths would be much higher. This is an example of the type of nonsense people like you are trying to fool people with, so they mistakenly think drugs are safe.
Don't call yourself factoid. Call yourself mythoid. It has a drug sound to it, which makes you so cool, and apparently, a complete idiot.
Thanks, Wikipedia! And the idiot masses.
Yes, that's why I think slashdot should be outlawed, like your mother's Sybian.
See section titled: Tolerance and dependence.
Thank you, I think I will learn the difference. Maybe you should learn too, so we can put myths to rest?
Animals Exposed THC Will Self-Administer
Why teenagers should steer clear of cannabis
Ha ha ha, are you kidding? Because we don't need more hyperreligiosity.
Whatever. Drugging people to pay taxes so drugs can be legal I think is highly unethical. It's not a 'simple' compromise. Look at tobacco and alcohol. People get plastered and run over children, and smokers can hardly pay rent while they poison everyone around them.
Sorry, pal. Growing them in your basement doesn't make them legal. I think it's sad that closed-minded junkies like you fail to realize that no one cares about you're lengthy trips through insanity.
I'd do with out.
Yeah, and there's a lot of (anti-meth in some states, and) anti-tobacco TV going on now too. Call it propaganda if you want. I think it's good. I don't want my kids using drugs.
Although, I wouldn't say the suggestion that drug use can lead to you being a low-life is "disinformation."
I think if people didn't go completely bonkers after taking drugs, no one would care to ban them. Every time there's a new drug that comes out, there's all sorts of bizarre acting weirdos that go on the TV telling us all how PCP is going to revolutionize the world and cure all mental illnesses and be used to treat depression and go on spiritual journeys while they're molesting each other, but instead, it usually just makes people schizophrenic. If you people would calm the hell down, and stop acting like a bunch of out-of-control morons, then maybe no one would care.
Erowid and wikipedia have got to be the worst source of medical opinions on the Internet, you fool. People like YOU write those articles on wikipedia, and that makes them full of bite.
Next time you're trying to push drugs as safe, maybe try to lay off the cries of "conspiracy, propaganda, and brainwashing." It makes you sound schizophrenic, which you probably are, from the drugs.
Addiction is addiction. People always split hairs about it, as if one type is not as bad as another so it's okay, but what I see from people is a bunch of baloney about how their drug of choice is not addictive like crack, but it's all they can talk about, and it's all they want to do, and they become crazy drug preachers that cry foul whenever someone mentions a negative about drugs. Like how about research that says that marijuana is actually addictive, or that there's a 41% increased risk of developing psychotic illnesses in people with no history of mental illness.
Oh, but tobacco is SO BAD FOR YOU AND ADDICTIVE. And no one disputes that, but marijuana is totally harmless, and don't you dare say anything about it, because you're part of the vast government conspiracy.
So if drugs can make you so, that, then as far as I'm concerned, they make you addicted and CRAZY.
The drugs have made you a radical. No one said that caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol were good, non-addictive substances.
Death is just one bad thing that can happen to you from drugs. You can also cause changes in the brain which can lead to mental illness.
Wikipedia is a terrible source for information about drugs, as it's written by the masses, who have warped concepts on the drug issue. And that includes you. No one should listen to this garbage about how unlikely you are to die from a drug based on you're fabulous medical opinions that you crafted by using drugs and going on the Internet to write about them.
Wow! I think it's a good idea for consumers to put our money where our mouths are. Everyone should send money to them, and maybe WE'll get press this time, saying we won't stand for Luddism.
Although, I hope the info above is correct.
CowboyNeal... this CowboyNeal... that...
Enough with the gay jokes already.
It reminds me of a scene in a movie Mambo Italiano:
They already found the pleasure center of the brain. It's called the penis. Have fun electrocuting it.
Well, okay, I didn't mean that you should do nothing, literally, but that you should use that car for grocery shopping, and your other car for anything else. Or disable it when you want some privacy. My instinct would be to freak out about it, and trash it, but that might get one in trouble. I'm just saying don't panic and sell it on e-bay. If you did take it out, you should return it, but then maybe they'll find a more insidious way to track you?
It seems to me that every time someone exposes the police over some kind of injustice, that person always ends up in jail for something trivial.
What do you think should be done?
Yes, that is exactly what he should have done. Leave them in, and live life normally. I think this is the best advice, this far in the thread. Though I did like the one about mailing it, but it's not wise.
Fine. Let's say that K-mart decided that any person they deem to be gay looking will be forcefully ejected from their store. Yes, gay people can shop elsewhere, but they shouldn't have to. Moreover, simply shopping elsewhere isn't going to change anything, if we assume that gays make up 10% of the population.
A more common bias against someone with schizophrenia is they're scary, dangerous killers. I don't know exactly how true that is, though it's obviously not true for all (or probably a large majority).
Some schizophrenics are dangerous in that way, however, I hear, not from the voices, but from the statistics, someone drinking is far more dangerous. But people don't make a big deal about that fact. I'm sure there's no database on potentially homicidal drinkers. Anyone drinking would have that potential though.
exactly how would a human *know* if a mouse is schizophrenic?
It's simple really. If it believes in Jesus, questions evolution, and has a conspiracy theorist right winged talk radio show.