I second this. I will never build a raised floor computer room again.
The last two computer rooms, I built for clients, had all the cables run in cable trays overhead, and the racks set on a normal floor or slab. Overhead trays force you to keep things organized, raised floors just hide/induce clutter.
Plus you don't have to build ramps or steps.
One thing I would be concerned with in a basement computer room is water. Raised floor does not do well with water, since your power is run under the floor.
If you do decide to go with the basement, I would definately recommend doing the overhead route, only mount the servers halfway down the racks, and obviously run the power from above. Then even if you get some water it would have to go up 3 to 4 feet before your impacted.
All I can say is read the book and become more informed. It was one of the best books I have read in the last 5 years. Both parties are clearly responsible for this mess, starting all the way back to FDR and his glorious unfunded entitlement called Social Security.
Exactly and they screwed us twice. Not only are there more of them, but they decided to have fewer kids! So the "pool" paying for their asses is smaller yet.
Have you been to FL or AZ lately? They say those corpses behind the wheel are alive, but they sure don't drive like it, the streets are littered with them.
It's a reference to a story "Rime of the Ancient Mariner"( (also a good Iron Maiden song). In short the Mariner shoots an albatross, the shipmates sees it as bad omen, and hang the dead bird around the mariner's neck, which would be a very heavy burden to carry.
Even though this was posted by an AC and modded funny, sadly in my experience it is mostly true.
Very few web development firms I have dealt with had any of these qualities, let alone all of them.
I think the best advice has already been given in multiple other posts: Ask for references, check those references, and check out their past work. Ask your questions of the references that they supply.
As for technology... This sounds like this will be a fairly involved site, who will support/maintain it going forward? If the answer is you (or internal staff), then you will want to consider technology you or your staff are comfortable supporting.
No, not to me, but my point was that happiness is a very indivdual thing. While it may be true that some/many rich are not truly happy, there are some that are. True happiness is not the same for every person.
They actually don't support SuSE as a server, and they stopped support for free RH versions at 7.3 (I assume this is when the first version of RHEL came out). The chart says they don't support RHEL 3.0, as a server, but I know someone who is running it on 3.0, and claims they support him.
I had the same experience with Arkeia on price. I can't believe anyone would buy their product when it's at least 3x Netbackup.
The biggest problem with Netbackup is Veritas will only support the server on RHEL or SuSE, no "free" OS's. So I built an RHEL server from source, and got around that problem. Of course now you could use something like CentOS, if you don't want to build your own.
I use Netbackup, but for me it was a price issue. Arkiea qouted me a price 3x Netbackup (Arkeia $5500, Netbackup $1700)!
Could you install CentOS (Veritas doesn't support any free OS's as a server, and while CentOS is free, it is a clone of a Veritas supported OS;) on your backup server? Not sure what your environment is like, but my backup server is pretty much dedicated to backups and file sharing, so it really doesn't matter what OS it runs.
I think this is a result of the lower interest rates.
The last car I bought I paid cash, but I had trouble finding a dealer that would even deal once they knew I was paying cash. As soon as they found out it was a cash deal, the price was MSRP. This was back when interest rates where relatively high (no 0% deals). So I wised up and negotitated a price, got it in writing, and wrote them a check.;)
" If the rich and powerful aren't incompetent, why isn't this place paradise?"
I suspect the rich do consider it pretty close to paradise. They have set themselves up pretty well, which would indicate a fair amount of competence.
As for myself, I am much happier living here then any where else in the world. Is it my idea of paradise? No. Do I think my version of paradise is possible with N billion people on the planet? No.
"Look, we have the resources and we have the technology. What we lack is the leadership. IMHO, our leaders have simply elected to serve themselves instead of leading"
No arguement. But again that's not because the rich are stupid, they have manipulated themselves right to the top.
"Personally, I'm amazed at just how easily and cheaply we allowed ourselves all to be so totally sold out"
Well that makes one of us... Most people are just sheep, if the last couple of elections didn't prove that to you, then you haven't been paying attention.
"In all honesty, can you tell me that the founding fathers would be proud of the practices of corporate America?"
After reading the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, I think some would and some wouldn't. Some would be amazed that it turned out so well. The founding fathers weren't perfect, and many of them weren't poor...
I never said it would be easy to change US policy, my main arguement was that the US doesn't need the Kyoto treaty to limit it's CO2 output, it CAN do it on it's own. It more than likely will require that the general population actually cares about such things and stands up and takes back, at least some part of, the US govt, but it is possible.
The US govt is suppose to serve it's people and do what they want it to do. If you don't believe they are doing this, then stop electing the status quo into office or let your current representives know your displeasure with their conduct.
You can complain all you want about how evil corporations are, but the reality is that corporations are needed, unless you have some other idea how people are going to support themselves. Have we allowed corporations to run amok? Yup, but the only way to change that is too take back the US govt and bring them back into line.
Absolutely, that's a great idea. Of course this sort thing is/was already in place, and corporations found it cheaper to pay the fines/tax.
Corporations are hard to convince to do anything, unless there is a compelling financial reason for them to do it. To be fair that's what their in business for, to make money, for themselves and their shareholders. So you have to find a way that incents them financially to to the right thing. Taxes are one way, fines are another.
The rich aren't incompetent (they wouldn't be rich if they were), their just greedy. Therefore the best way to motivate them is to use their own greed against them.
"Unfortunately, thanks to some good 'ole American price-gouging capitalists, hybrid vehicles - already about $3000 more expensive than conventional vehicles - have price-markups over and beyond the sticker price. An extra $3000 is not unheard of, taking the total price to $6000 more than a conventional gasoline vehicle. That's a lot of fuel. Nobody wants to pay up-front, they're going to stick with the cheaper conventional vehicle. "
But for 2005 I can get a $2000 credit for my hybrid, so that brings your number down to $4000, which I dispute, since I know first hand this isn't always true. This also doesn't include the credits you can get from some state taxes.
For instance if I own an SUV/Truck that gets 12 MPG, and I drive 200 miles a week and gas was $5/gallon, my total gas bill for the year would be ~$4000/yr. If I own a hybrid that gets 50MPG and drive the same distance my yearly total is ~$1040/yr. So now using your number above (and the $2000 Fed tax break) I am only out an extra $1000. Not bad considering I will easily make that up in year 2...
As for corporations not paying taxes... Sadly it is true that many corporations get by without paying taxes, but tax breaks are only one way to incent corporations.
BTW I paid over three times as much personal tax as my own S-Corp...
I hope the US does have or will come up with a plan, because I am not anti-environment.
Kyoto isn't the right plan, and signing up for a plan that is politically motivated is a bad idea.
The US can come up with a plan on it's own, the question is will it?
Just because the US doesn't sign on to Kyoto doesn't mean they won't do something.
"I'd be very, very, very willing to give Kyoto-bashers like yourself a break if they were willing to come up with some soltion to cut emissions"
I can come up with plenty of solutions. Offer huge tax breaks to corporations for reducing their CO2 output.
Ironically the Clinton administration did more to stop this sort of thing than Bush has. Clinton signed legislation that basically said, if you modify one plant to reduce C02 to X level, you have to modify all plants to meet X level. While this seems good, no corporation is going to do this, if there is no financial insentive to do so.
Solution 2: Let gas prices rise to levels like Europe or Asia. That would incent people to drive less or buy more fuel efficient vehicles. Even at $2.00/gallon people start complaining, think if that went to $5/gallon!
Solution 3: Give larger tax breaks (already have some in place) for buying hybrid vehicles.
Those are just a few easy solutions to the problem, and none of them cause the US to sign on to a bad treaty.
I can just as easily flip your statement to read: I might be able to give you Kyoto supporters a break if you were able to think outside the box!
Why does the US have to sign on to some treaty to reduce carbon emissions? Are you suggesting that the US can't do it by themselves? They need some treaty to help them do it?
The Kyoto treaty is politics at it's worst. The reason Bush didn't go forward with it, is because Congress was never going to vote on it, because miracle of all miracle's they actually read it and decided it was bad for the US!
Kyoto is dead in the US, and I say good riddance to bad rubbish.
The real question is what, if anything, is the US going to do about carbon emmissions on their own?
While as a developer I like Eclipse's UI, I don't think it would work well for general purpose business apps.
IMO the best feature of Eclipse is the prespectives. From a purely development standpoint I like having all the tools I need in one tool. The fact that only UI components that are useful to the current perspective are visable is great, no "greyed out" components, that shouldn't even be there.
Business app users typically like to compartmentalize, and while prespectives are a type of compartmentalizing, to a normal user it's still one app. The Eclipse UI would only confuse normal users, and they would never be able to find the "app" they need.
As an example, I have users that have trouble with the "worksheet" concept in Excel, which is slightly similar to perspectives. I can't imagine these users with an app where whole sets of functionality "disappear".
On the speed issue... I used to hear friends talk about how slow Eclipse was, which I never saw, but I never used Eclipse on Windows, always Linux or OS X. Unfortunately I am now forced to use Windows and find Eclipse to be considerably slower, than Linux or OS X, with better HW. It would seem that either the Windows VM or Windows itself is causing this slowness, very disappointing, can't wait to finish this contract.;)
I live in the US and fully support 3 strikes and gone, and when I say gone I mean GONE! If someone can't clean up their life after 3 attempts, then it just isn't going to happen.
As for the "drastic measures" stuff, that pretty much proves the point. Any person that is so screwed up that he commits murder to try and avoid his 3rd strike penelty, doesn't deserve to live in a civilized world.
That bandwidth is per sector, not for the entire tower. Currently one tower can have upto 6 sectors on a single basestation. A tower can have multiple basestations and overlapping sectors though.
The limit on sectors is based on "channel space" in the frequency range and physical space on the tower. Currently pre-WiMax is a line of sight technology, so location (height) on the tower is important, and there is only so much physical space.
With overlapping sectors, it becomes very tricky to manage the channel overlap.
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I second this. I will never build a raised floor computer room again.
The last two computer rooms, I built for clients, had all the cables run in cable trays overhead, and the racks set on a normal floor or slab. Overhead trays force you to keep things organized, raised floors just hide/induce clutter.
Plus you don't have to build ramps or steps.
One thing I would be concerned with in a basement computer room is water. Raised floor does not do well with water, since your power is run under the floor.
If you do decide to go with the basement, I would definately recommend doing the overhead route, only mount the servers halfway down the racks, and obviously run the power from above. Then even if you get some water it would have to go up 3 to 4 feet before your impacted.
Budget deficits are only one part of the problem.
All I can say is read the book and become more informed. It was one of the best books I have read in the last 5 years. Both parties are clearly responsible for this mess, starting all the way back to FDR and his glorious unfunded entitlement called Social Security.
"The only problem I can see is if a generation was SMALLER than its parent generation"
Exactly, baby boomers had fewer kids then previous generations. Birth rates in the US have been declining for a long time.
"(damn baby boomers)"
Exactly and they screwed us twice. Not only are there more of them, but they decided to have fewer kids! So the "pool" paying for their asses is smaller yet.
Have you been to FL or AZ lately? They say those corpses behind the wheel are alive, but they sure don't drive like it, the streets are littered with them.
"Clinton may have lied like Pinochio, but he balanced our checkbook."
Yeah, sure, you just keep believing that...
Maybe you should try reading a book like "Running on Empty", then maybe you will learn how BOTH parties put us in this mess.
It's a reference to a story "Rime of the Ancient Mariner"( (also a good Iron Maiden song). In short the Mariner shoots an albatross, the shipmates sees it as bad omen, and hang the dead bird around the mariner's neck, which would be a very heavy burden to carry.
Even though this was posted by an AC and modded funny, sadly in my experience it is mostly true.
Very few web development firms I have dealt with had any of these qualities, let alone all of them.
I think the best advice has already been given in multiple other posts: Ask for references, check those references, and check out their past work. Ask your questions of the references that they supply.
As for technology... This sounds like this will be a fairly involved site, who will support/maintain it going forward? If the answer is you (or internal staff), then you will want to consider technology you or your staff are comfortable supporting.
No, not to me, but my point was that happiness is a very indivdual thing. While it may be true that some/many rich are not truly happy, there are some that are. True happiness is not the same for every person.
I was curious, so I checked.
They actually don't support SuSE as a server, and they stopped support for free RH versions at 7.3 (I assume this is when the first version of RHEL came out). The chart says they don't support RHEL 3.0, as a server, but I know someone who is running it on 3.0, and claims they support him.
No BSD's are supported as a server.
"Sure they think they're happy, but since I believe true happiness comes from inner self development, I suspect they are not as happy as they let on."
..."
The great thing about "paradises", everyone has their own version.
"Personally, how anyone can be happy while they exploit others is beyond me
I never meant to suggest that the rich were mentally stable, just that they are happy...
Actually Netbackup used to be supported on RH7.3, so I would expect it to work there. Veritas offically stopped supporting Netbackup on RH8 or RH9.
I originally tired it on RH9 and had a few problems, that mysteriously went away when I built my own system from RHEL sources.
Last time I looked, only Win32, commerical *nix, and RHEL and SuSE were supported as servers. They support pretty much everything as a client.
I had the same experience with Arkeia on price. I can't believe anyone would buy their product when it's at least 3x Netbackup.
The biggest problem with Netbackup is Veritas will only support the server on RHEL or SuSE, no "free" OS's. So I built an RHEL server from source, and got around that problem. Of course now you could use something like CentOS, if you don't want to build your own.
I use Netbackup, but for me it was a price issue. Arkiea qouted me a price 3x Netbackup (Arkeia $5500, Netbackup $1700)!
;) on your backup server? Not sure what your environment is like, but my backup server is pretty much dedicated to backups and file sharing, so it really doesn't matter what OS it runs.
Could you install CentOS (Veritas doesn't support any free OS's as a server, and while CentOS is free, it is a clone of a Veritas supported OS
I think this is a result of the lower interest rates.
;)
The last car I bought I paid cash, but I had trouble finding a dealer that would even deal once they knew I was paying cash. As soon as they found out it was a cash deal, the price was MSRP. This was back when interest rates where relatively high (no 0% deals). So I wised up and negotitated a price, got it in writing, and wrote them a check.
" If the rich and powerful aren't incompetent, why isn't this place paradise?"
I suspect the rich do consider it pretty close to paradise. They have set themselves up pretty well, which would indicate a fair amount of competence.
As for myself, I am much happier living here then any where else in the world. Is it my idea of paradise? No. Do I think my version of paradise is possible with N billion people on the planet? No.
"Look, we have the resources and we have the technology. What we lack is the leadership. IMHO, our leaders have simply elected to serve themselves instead of leading"
No arguement. But again that's not because the rich are stupid, they have manipulated themselves right to the top.
"Personally, I'm amazed at just how easily and cheaply we allowed ourselves all to be so totally sold out"
Well that makes one of us... Most people are just sheep, if the last couple of elections didn't prove that to you, then you haven't been paying attention.
"In all honesty, can you tell me that the founding fathers would be proud of the practices of corporate America?"
After reading the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, I think some would and some wouldn't. Some would be amazed that it turned out so well. The founding fathers weren't perfect, and many of them weren't poor...
I never said it would be easy to change US policy, my main arguement was that the US doesn't need the Kyoto treaty to limit it's CO2 output, it CAN do it on it's own. It more than likely will require that the general population actually cares about such things and stands up and takes back, at least some part of, the US govt, but it is possible.
The US govt is suppose to serve it's people and do what they want it to do. If you don't believe they are doing this, then stop electing the status quo into office or let your current representives know your displeasure with their conduct.
You can complain all you want about how evil corporations are, but the reality is that corporations are needed, unless you have some other idea how people are going to support themselves. Have we allowed corporations to run amok? Yup, but the only way to change that is too take back the US govt and bring them back into line.
Absolutely, that's a great idea. Of course this sort thing is/was already in place, and corporations found it cheaper to pay the fines/tax.
Corporations are hard to convince to do anything, unless there is a compelling financial reason for them to do it. To be fair that's what their in business for, to make money, for themselves and their shareholders. So you have to find a way that incents them financially to to the right thing. Taxes are one way, fines are another.
The rich aren't incompetent (they wouldn't be rich if they were), their just greedy. Therefore the best way to motivate them is to use their own greed against them.
"Unfortunately, thanks to some good 'ole American price-gouging capitalists, hybrid vehicles - already about $3000 more expensive than conventional vehicles - have price-markups over and beyond the sticker price. An extra $3000 is not unheard of, taking the total price to $6000 more than a conventional gasoline vehicle. That's a lot of fuel. Nobody wants to pay up-front, they're going to stick with the cheaper conventional vehicle.
"
But for 2005 I can get a $2000 credit for my hybrid, so that brings your number down to $4000, which I dispute, since I know first hand this isn't always true. This also doesn't include the credits you can get from some state taxes.
For instance if I own an SUV/Truck that gets 12 MPG, and I drive 200 miles a week and gas was $5/gallon, my total gas bill for the year would be ~$4000/yr. If I own a hybrid that gets 50MPG and drive the same distance my yearly total is ~$1040/yr. So now using your number above (and the $2000 Fed tax break) I am only out an extra $1000. Not bad considering I will easily make that up in year 2...
As for corporations not paying taxes... Sadly it is true that many corporations get by without paying taxes, but tax breaks are only one way to incent corporations.
BTW I paid over three times as much personal tax as my own S-Corp...
I hope the US does have or will come up with a plan, because I am not anti-environment.
Kyoto isn't the right plan, and signing up for a plan that is politically motivated is a bad idea.
The US can come up with a plan on it's own, the question is will it?
Just because the US doesn't sign on to Kyoto doesn't mean they won't do something.
"I'd be very, very, very willing to give Kyoto-bashers like yourself a break if they were willing to come up with some soltion to cut emissions"
I can come up with plenty of solutions. Offer huge tax breaks to corporations for reducing their CO2 output.
Ironically the Clinton administration did more to stop this sort of thing than Bush has. Clinton signed legislation that basically said, if you modify one plant to reduce C02 to X level, you have to modify all plants to meet X level. While this seems good, no corporation is going to do this, if there is no financial insentive to do so.
Solution 2: Let gas prices rise to levels like Europe or Asia. That would incent people to drive less or buy more fuel efficient vehicles. Even at $2.00/gallon people start complaining, think if that went to $5/gallon!
Solution 3: Give larger tax breaks (already have some in place) for buying hybrid vehicles.
Those are just a few easy solutions to the problem, and none of them cause the US to sign on to a bad treaty.
I can just as easily flip your statement to read: I might be able to give you Kyoto supporters a break if you were able to think outside the box!
Why does the US have to sign on to some treaty to reduce carbon emissions? Are you suggesting that the US can't do it by themselves? They need some treaty to help them do it?
The Kyoto treaty is politics at it's worst. The reason Bush didn't go forward with it, is because Congress was never going to vote on it, because miracle of all miracle's they actually read it and decided it was bad for the US!
Kyoto is dead in the US, and I say good riddance to bad rubbish.
The real question is what, if anything, is the US going to do about carbon emmissions on their own?
While as a developer I like Eclipse's UI, I don't think it would work well for general purpose business apps.
;)
IMO the best feature of Eclipse is the prespectives. From a purely development standpoint I like having all the tools I need in one tool. The fact that only UI components that are useful to the current perspective are visable is great, no "greyed out" components, that shouldn't even be there.
Business app users typically like to compartmentalize, and while prespectives are a type of compartmentalizing, to a normal user it's still one app. The Eclipse UI would only confuse normal users, and they would never be able to find the "app" they need.
As an example, I have users that have trouble with the "worksheet" concept in Excel, which is slightly similar to perspectives. I can't imagine these users with an app where whole sets of functionality "disappear".
On the speed issue... I used to hear friends talk about how slow Eclipse was, which I never saw, but I never used Eclipse on Windows, always Linux or OS X. Unfortunately I am now forced to use Windows and find Eclipse to be considerably slower, than Linux or OS X, with better HW. It would seem that either the Windows VM or Windows itself is causing this slowness, very disappointing, can't wait to finish this contract.
I live in the US and fully support 3 strikes and gone, and when I say gone I mean GONE! If someone can't clean up their life after 3 attempts, then it just isn't going to happen.
As for the "drastic measures" stuff, that pretty much proves the point. Any person that is so screwed up that he commits murder to try and avoid his 3rd strike penelty, doesn't deserve to live in a civilized world.
That bandwidth is per sector, not for the entire tower. Currently one tower can have upto 6 sectors on a single basestation. A tower can have multiple basestations and overlapping sectors though.
The limit on sectors is based on "channel space" in the frequency range and physical space on the tower. Currently pre-WiMax is a line of sight technology, so location (height) on the tower is important, and there is only so much physical space.
With overlapping sectors, it becomes very tricky to manage the channel overlap.
And Parkersburg WV/Marrietta OH.
WiMax is close to trials, and since there are pre-WiMax installs, the trials should go pretty quickly.
Clearwire doesn't use WiMax, they use 3GPP (cell technology). More specifically they use IPWireless's technology.
There are no deployments of WiMax yet, because the field trials have not even started.