Then you dont know how to configure them or the software your using on top. What exactly is 'disappointing' performace ? And how are you benchmarking the cards or their performace ?
There are reasons that HW raid is used in all of the top end setups, because its faster. The CPU might not be 3Ghz Extreme edition or some other recognizable market friendly junk, but make no mistake the performance is there. Most of the time chips used on cards (not only RAID cards) are designed for that specific purpose and as such are much better at that job than a general "consumer" CPU. In the economy cards your usually dealing with a modified MIPS chip. Which is still more efficient and faster than software raid.
Don't compare a high end PC doing software RAID to a low end card. Apples to Apples. Of course a 5 year old serveraid card will suck compared to a new PC with SATA drives. Compare that same PC with a new high end card, the performance difference will be staggering. Especially if the PC is going to be used for normal tasks while doing software raid.
hardware raid is faster since the work is offloaded to the card, this also means you can run it on a slow system and not have issues with latency/load.
Shut down for a few days is one thing, destroyed with all of those people who are involved in trading with tons of data being destroyed is a different horse. Our economy lost as much as 1 trillion as a result of 9/11. Hitting the stock exchange would be much much worse.
"They can't, and they never could. The fundamental backbone of our nation is built upon the ideas held in the constitution."
You mean the ideas that the government has been eroding for the past few decades (with scary little attention) and with increasing speed over the past 3 years ?
You can stop with the "fear fear fear" crap. I dont buy it, and I dont fear terrorists. However if you dont explore the possibility of this then your a fool. Especially if you dont try to prevent it.
"We have 300 million people covering a nation of many millions of square miles, and you really think a few thousand religious extremist can wipe out the US?"
We have 300 million people who are bitterly divided with far far more diverse intrests and ideals than the original 13 colonies had. All it would take for this country to break into serveral pieces is 1 thing. You think the liberals in the northeast or the religious nuts in the midwest want to hold hands and sing songs ? The country is the most divided it has been since the civil war.
Fear is what bush uses to control the population, fear is what the terrorists and this administration are using to drive us apartm the terrorists do it intentionally the administration is doing it on accident as a by product of there policies and actions.
Fear of being in Fear is what your trying to use to control this discussion.
"BTW do you really think that terrorist leaders want the US destroyed?"
Not in the manor your thinking. Honestly I dont think they give a shit about the US or its people so long as the US and its people do not interfere with their lives/countries/rights. No matter who the president is this wont happen (assuming the choices remain kerry or bush). The entire goal of the terrorist attacks was to get us out of the middle east. I really think that bush and his buddies did the exact opposite thing just to spite the terrorists so they could use it has a marketing/campaign thing.
If they hit indian point nuclear plant (IIRC) there could be as many as 30 million deaths depending on the prevailing winds. The spent fuel rods that are stored incorrectly in pools that are over capacity alone could wipe out NYC and the immediate surrounding area. (When I say east coast I mean washinton to boston. Not the entire coast.)
a) its a matter of historical preference why japan attacked. Different historians have said different things.
b) 1a. If it also doesnt involve oil or some other american industry.
As far as money ruling the law.... thats what happens without campaign finance reform that means something. Having only two major parties also doesnt help.
Hi Xyrus mett Mr Reality. Mr Reality please KICK Xyrus in the head.
I never said a damn thing about DYING because of terrorism. Threats to the ENTIRE COUNTRY come in many shapes and sizes. Imagine our entire economy collapsing, having 20 or 30% of the nation unemployed and unable to afford food or healthcare. Or being homeless. Violence would skyrocket, the governemnt wouldnt be able to afford services like police and firemen because there would be no money coming in from taxes. All it would take is two more planes, one into the stock exchange during the day, the other into the capital building during a session. Or they could hit one of the nuclear facilities that are downwind of NYC or washington and let the fallout kill millions and make the east coast uninhabitable.
Every single thing you listed would be worse if the terrorists succeed.
Just so you know Iraq had nothing, has nothing and never will have a damn thing to do with the war on terror. That 200 billion would have been better spent at home.
I think I dont live in a socialist country, I dont care about people who dont care about themselves. Drug addicts and criminals dont deserve help, they should be deported. I also dont think I should be paying through the nose for sub-standard healthcare so everyone can have it.
"No matter what we do, it affects the outside world. For example: Alan Greenspan decides to change interest rates to promote domestic growth, and millions of dollars of global investment funds start flowing in new directions, affecting financial markets world over. McDonalds decides to discontinue the happy meal, and millions of factory workers in china lose their job. America sneezes, and the world is shaken. The world today is too intricately interdependent for us to step out and live an isolated, blinkered existence."
Sorry, Osama (and the like) doesnt give a flying fuck about the fed raising intrest rates. He does however care about the fact that we have been imposing our will by force (killing millions of innocents) in the middle east for 50 plus years.
The world is not as dependant on us as we are on the world, because..... we made it that way. The ownership class in this country has built our entire economy on exploiting other countries, our government is enforcing their will because they have lobbying parties, and a fuckton of money.
The government does not exist to cater to the rich and pander to the mega-corps. The entire principle of this government is to protect the PEOPLE. Mainly from each other, but also from forgiegn invaders, hostile parties, unjust laws, unjust influence (hello church, meet mr state. Stay the fsck away.) etc etc
We need a government that leaves the rest of the world alone, because no matter what we do internationally we WILL piss someone off, and we gain what in the end ? GM makes an extra $200 per car because it was made overseas ? Nothing gets cheaper for us, it gets cheaper (or more profitable) for the ownership class.
Just so you know (I do believe the backyard bombing thing was in reference to pearl harbor) we broke a deal with the japanese BEFORE they bombed pearl harbor. Thats WHY they bombed pearl harbor. So we werent minding our own business and playing fair. We were fucking other countries over. Exactly like we are now.
Better than the current system where we pay lip service to the top issues, do nothing until something happens and then pass a shit load of civil rights bashing laws, all the while still doing nothing to enforce any of it unless it can make somebody some money. Or spy on those "damn liberals". Yay for capitalism.::barf::
The sole purpose of the governements existance is to protect its citizens, not the economy, not big business. The PEOPLE.
just out of curriosity, does it say that all of these were commited by islamic foriegners ? Cause I dont see that information anywhere on that list.
You will also notice that a large number of those countries have a significant oppressed class/religion/whatever. Then quite a few are also just as guilty as the US regarding trying to control the world.
You know what you wont see on that list are any nuetral countries that dont have their own internal problems. Every single one of those countries has there own internal issues, was/is a significant ally of the US or is involved in the middle east on there own.
The criteria for that list is bullshit. The bloods and crips would be on that list if they were shooting at mcdonalds instead of each other, that doesnt make them terrorists, it makes them plain old criminals.
it was evidence of foul play before. Now its under DHS and is much more visable. Nothing changed except the fact that more people are watching the watchers. (what exactly is to be accomplished by this is well beyond my non-tinfoil hat wearing self)
No. What we need to do is make america safer. Not fucking expend resources trying to enforce expired patents/copyrights.
Pal I have to break you the news, but if we dont start figuring out a way to inspect the containers most of the seaports in this country could be blown to kingdom-come. There wont be any products left to buy.
The Terrorist threat has been blown way the fuck out of proportion by the bush administration. We were attacked (and also had several failed attempts) several times before 9/11. 9/11 was the most succesful for sure, but what exactly made it seem like all of a sudden the terrorists got more well organized, or more well financed than they were before 9/11 ? Need I also remind everyone that we were aware that 9/11 was being planned ? The intelligence was there. The government however is to bloated and bureaucratic to handle things like this, and hence dropped the ball.
Want to be secure ? Leave everyone else the fuck alone. You dont see every country in the world being attacked by militant islamic extremist foreigners now do you ? Its because most countries mind their own fucking business.
Oh... and regarding this comment in specific: "What you need to do is to stop terrorists at their source not after they've gotten their goods into the harbours."
You think searching the harbours or container ships is a problem ? Take a look at a fucking map, searching and securing the entire globe would be a bit harder. I think you can wait an extra month for your digital camera. The economy will adjust if it has to.
One city is not indicative of the overall cost of living. Just so you know the average person in japan has less money (as a comparison) however they do (IIRC) have more disposable income since on average they spend less money on other things. (specifically cars and houses)
credit has nothing to do with the ability to afford things.
Sooner or later (usually have the house and two cars) using your credit will catch up to you and you will be living check to check and paying for 50 years on your morgage.
oh yes he is. If Sharp aimed at the correct market. First and foremost the version of linux they shipped was ass, the UI was also ass.
The major problem is that nobody who uses linux wants to pay $400 for a PDA. Let alone a very large, non fully featured PDA. If they had offered a smaller version at a lower price point (say $200) then they would have been fine. Has it stands they seem to think we in the OSS community will grossly overpay for a nuetered OS and a bloated PDA.
It has been my experience that going with a cheap dedicated host tends to be more of a value for your dollar. Most colocation places charge obscene rates to do any maitenance, plus since its your hardware if it fails you have to replace it. With a dedicated system they will replace it, and most often quickly enough for it not to be an issue.
I personally have quite a few servers laying around at various hosting companies, one of the faster latency rates is through valueweb.com (followed closely by nyi.net and rac... err ev1servers.net) they all have some bottom level plan thats about 50/month and they all have plenty of bandwidth.
I feel the same way about speakeasy, never lived in a DSL friendly area myself. It runs at about half the speed of cable around here. (1.5 vs 3, same upload) I had timewarner but I moved to a crapcast location. I wish I had enough money to get a T1.::sigh:: someday.
If you need anything else just ask. I'll help if I can.
Most of the major ISP's have similar policies. Problem is every once in a while they deciede to use the TOS to disconnect you. In which case most of the time your screwed since there are usually not to many broadband ISP's around.
The way I figure it is that your paying 40/mo for DSL/cable... count half of that toward the "server" and your talking about paying a measly 30/mo extra for 100Mb connectivity on a real network. To me its not much of a compeition.
"If you want every murder victim to be saved, then you can provide for all of their needs henceforth."
or
"If you want to save every starving person in Africa, then you can be completely responsible for caring for all of them after that."
Heck, apply it to the extinction of species("you can give money to support every whale you want saved"). Are you willing to hold everyone else who fights against some injustice responsible to the same degree that you hold pro-lifers?
Apply my axiom to the above statement. Most murder victims arent murdered by anyone they are dependant on. I am willing to hold people to their word. Its easy to say "save the world" and tell people what to do. Not so easy to take your own medicine and do it yourself.
Injustice ? I think bush being in office is an injustice, I think the war in Iraq is an injustice. I think a lot of things in this world happen that we do not have control over, cannot atone for and have no way to repair. Trying to be some tyrant who says what people can and cant do with their life and their body is bullshit. Its the type of thing I would expect from someone like hitler or stalin, not these pompus asses who claim to love america and then pull the same shit that forced our ancestors to revolt.
Didnt I point out that what the nazi did was extreme ?... Yes yes I did. The nazi's didnt just go to insta-kill that was the endpoint. First they laid down unjust laws, prosecuted dissidents and people who generally didnt agree with them. Which sounds EXACTLY like what is happening in this country RIGHT NOW.
Your post is not the only pro-life exposure I have had. They are no different than any other extremists. They dont care about rights, they care about control. You personally ? Dont know, dont care.
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Then you dont know how to configure them or the software your using on top. What exactly is 'disappointing' performace ? And how are you benchmarking the cards or their performace ?
There are reasons that HW raid is used in all of the top end setups, because its faster. The CPU might not be 3Ghz Extreme edition or some other recognizable market friendly junk, but make no mistake the performance is there. Most of the time chips used on cards (not only RAID cards) are designed for that specific purpose and as such are much better at that job than a general "consumer" CPU. In the economy cards your usually dealing with a modified MIPS chip. Which is still more efficient and faster than software raid.
Don't compare a high end PC doing software RAID to a low end card. Apples to Apples. Of course a 5 year old serveraid card will suck compared to a new PC with SATA drives. Compare that same PC with a new high end card, the performance difference will be staggering. Especially if the PC is going to be used for normal tasks while doing software raid.
hardware raid is faster since the work is offloaded to the card, this also means you can run it on a slow system and not have issues with latency/load.
Shut down for a few days is one thing, destroyed with all of those people who are involved in trading with tons of data being destroyed is a different horse. Our economy lost as much as 1 trillion as a result of 9/11. Hitting the stock exchange would be much much worse.
"They can't, and they never could. The fundamental backbone of our nation is built upon the ideas held in the constitution."
You mean the ideas that the government has been eroding for the past few decades (with scary little attention) and with increasing speed over the past 3 years ?
You can stop with the "fear fear fear" crap. I dont buy it, and I dont fear terrorists. However if you dont explore the possibility of this then your a fool. Especially if you dont try to prevent it.
"We have 300 million people covering a nation of many millions of square miles, and you really think a few thousand religious extremist can wipe out the US?"
We have 300 million people who are bitterly divided with far far more diverse intrests and ideals than the original 13 colonies had. All it would take for this country to break into serveral pieces is 1 thing. You think the liberals in the northeast or the religious nuts in the midwest want to hold hands and sing songs ? The country is the most divided it has been since the civil war.
Fear is what bush uses to control the population, fear is what the terrorists and this administration are using to drive us apartm the terrorists do it intentionally the administration is doing it on accident as a by product of there policies and actions.
Fear of being in Fear is what your trying to use to control this discussion.
"BTW do you really think that terrorist leaders want the US destroyed?"
Not in the manor your thinking. Honestly I dont think they give a shit about the US or its people so long as the US and its people do not interfere with their lives/countries/rights. No matter who the president is this wont happen (assuming the choices remain kerry or bush). The entire goal of the terrorist attacks was to get us out of the middle east. I really think that bush and his buddies did the exact opposite thing just to spite the terrorists so they could use it has a marketing/campaign thing.
If they hit indian point nuclear plant (IIRC) there could be as many as 30 million deaths depending on the prevailing winds. The spent fuel rods that are stored incorrectly in pools that are over capacity alone could wipe out NYC and the immediate surrounding area. (When I say east coast I mean washinton to boston. Not the entire coast.)
DING DING DING .... ladies and gentleman we have a winner !!!
... we might actually accomplish something in the middle east.
Thank you for restoring (at least momentarily) my faith in the human species. Some of us actually think. Thats a dirty word.
Now if only bush and the religious right would realize this
And how many of those 1,857 fit the criteria ?
Some local army/militia fighting for there rights is not fucking terrorism. I dont give a flying shit if the CIA likes them or not.
Two things about that.
.... thats what happens without campaign finance reform that means something. Having only two major parties also doesnt help.
a) its a matter of historical preference why japan attacked. Different historians have said different things.
b) 1a. If it also doesnt involve oil or some other american industry.
As far as money ruling the law
Hi Xyrus mett Mr Reality. Mr Reality please KICK Xyrus in the head.
I never said a damn thing about DYING because of terrorism. Threats to the ENTIRE COUNTRY come in many shapes and sizes. Imagine our entire economy collapsing, having 20 or 30% of the nation unemployed and unable to afford food or healthcare. Or being homeless. Violence would skyrocket, the governemnt wouldnt be able to afford services like police and firemen because there would be no money coming in from taxes. All it would take is two more planes, one into the stock exchange during the day, the other into the capital building during a session. Or they could hit one of the nuclear facilities that are downwind of NYC or washington and let the fallout kill millions and make the east coast uninhabitable.
Every single thing you listed would be worse if the terrorists succeed.
Just so you know Iraq had nothing, has nothing and never will have a damn thing to do with the war on terror. That 200 billion would have been better spent at home.
I think I dont live in a socialist country, I dont care about people who dont care about themselves. Drug addicts and criminals dont deserve help, they should be deported. I also dont think I should be paying through the nose for sub-standard healthcare so everyone can have it.
Vote Badnarik. Fuck Bush, screw kerry.
I was agreeing with you. It was relevant, but yes I did ignore the racial 'holy war'.
"No matter what we do, it affects the outside world. For example: Alan Greenspan decides to change interest rates to promote domestic growth, and millions of dollars of global investment funds start flowing in new directions, affecting financial markets world over. McDonalds decides to discontinue the happy meal, and millions of factory workers in china lose their job. America sneezes, and the world is shaken. The world today is too intricately interdependent for us to step out and live an isolated, blinkered existence."
..... we made it that way. The ownership class in this country has built our entire economy on exploiting other countries, our government is enforcing their will because they have lobbying parties, and a fuckton of money.
Sorry, Osama (and the like) doesnt give a flying fuck about the fed raising intrest rates. He does however care about the fact that we have been imposing our will by force (killing millions of innocents) in the middle east for 50 plus years.
The world is not as dependant on us as we are on the world, because
The government does not exist to cater to the rich and pander to the mega-corps. The entire principle of this government is to protect the PEOPLE. Mainly from each other, but also from forgiegn invaders, hostile parties, unjust laws, unjust influence (hello church, meet mr state. Stay the fsck away.) etc etc
We need a government that leaves the rest of the world alone, because no matter what we do internationally we WILL piss someone off, and we gain what in the end ? GM makes an extra $200 per car because it was made overseas ? Nothing gets cheaper for us, it gets cheaper (or more profitable) for the ownership class.
Just so you know (I do believe the backyard bombing thing was in reference to pearl harbor) we broke a deal with the japanese BEFORE they bombed pearl harbor. Thats WHY they bombed pearl harbor. So we werent minding our own business and playing fair. We were fucking other countries over. Exactly like we are now.
Better than the current system where we pay lip service to the top issues, do nothing until something happens and then pass a shit load of civil rights bashing laws, all the while still doing nothing to enforce any of it unless it can make somebody some money. Or spy on those "damn liberals". Yay for capitalism. ::barf::
The sole purpose of the governements existance is to protect its citizens, not the economy, not big business. The PEOPLE.
just out of curriosity, does it say that all of these were commited by islamic foriegners ? Cause I dont see that information anywhere on that list.
You will also notice that a large number of those countries have a significant oppressed class/religion/whatever. Then quite a few are also just as guilty as the US regarding trying to control the world.
You know what you wont see on that list are any nuetral countries that dont have their own internal problems. Every single one of those countries has there own internal issues, was/is a significant ally of the US or is involved in the middle east on there own.
The criteria for that list is bullshit. The bloods and crips would be on that list if they were shooting at mcdonalds instead of each other, that doesnt make them terrorists, it makes them plain old criminals.
it was evidence of foul play before. Now its under DHS and is much more visable. Nothing changed except the fact that more people are watching the watchers. (what exactly is to be accomplished by this is well beyond my non-tinfoil hat wearing self)
No. What we need to do is make america safer. Not fucking expend resources trying to enforce expired patents/copyrights.
... and regarding this comment in specific:
Pal I have to break you the news, but if we dont start figuring out a way to inspect the containers most of the seaports in this country could be blown to kingdom-come. There wont be any products left to buy.
The Terrorist threat has been blown way the fuck out of proportion by the bush administration. We were attacked (and also had several failed attempts) several times before 9/11. 9/11 was the most succesful for sure, but what exactly made it seem like all of a sudden the terrorists got more well organized, or more well financed than they were before 9/11 ? Need I also remind everyone that we were aware that 9/11 was being planned ? The intelligence was there. The government however is to bloated and bureaucratic to handle things like this, and hence dropped the ball.
Want to be secure ? Leave everyone else the fuck alone. You dont see every country in the world being attacked by militant islamic extremist foreigners now do you ? Its because most countries mind their own fucking business.
Oh
"What you need to do is to stop terrorists at their source not after they've gotten their goods into the harbours."
You think searching the harbours or container ships is a problem ? Take a look at a fucking map, searching and securing the entire globe would be a bit harder. I think you can wait an extra month for your digital camera. The economy will adjust if it has to.
The companies are owned by americans for sure. The technology is not developed by americans, and isnt made by americans.
One city is not indicative of the overall cost of living. Just so you know the average person in japan has less money (as a comparison) however they do (IIRC) have more disposable income since on average they spend less money on other things. (specifically cars and houses)
credit has nothing to do with the ability to afford things.
Sooner or later (usually have the house and two cars) using your credit will catch up to you and you will be living check to check and paying for 50 years on your morgage.
oh yes he is. If Sharp aimed at the correct market. First and foremost the version of linux they shipped was ass, the UI was also ass.
The major problem is that nobody who uses linux wants to pay $400 for a PDA. Let alone a very large, non fully featured PDA. If they had offered a smaller version at a lower price point (say $200) then they would have been fine. Has it stands they seem to think we in the OSS community will grossly overpay for a nuetered OS and a bloated PDA.
this is what happens when you have people like bush in power affecting the perceived usage of the english language.
Those are some damn high quality pictures.
... err ev1servers.net) they all have some bottom level plan thats about 50/month and they all have plenty of bandwidth.
::sigh:: someday.
It has been my experience that going with a cheap dedicated host tends to be more of a value for your dollar. Most colocation places charge obscene rates to do any maitenance, plus since its your hardware if it fails you have to replace it. With a dedicated system they will replace it, and most often quickly enough for it not to be an issue.
I personally have quite a few servers laying around at various hosting companies, one of the faster latency rates is through valueweb.com (followed closely by nyi.net and rac
I feel the same way about speakeasy, never lived in a DSL friendly area myself. It runs at about half the speed of cable around here. (1.5 vs 3, same upload) I had timewarner but I moved to a crapcast location. I wish I had enough money to get a T1.
If you need anything else just ask. I'll help if I can.
it depends on the ISP, some of them dont even monitor it.
;-)
"... 3 days"
I rest my case.
Most of the major ISP's have similar policies. Problem is every once in a while they deciede to use the TOS to disconnect you. In which case most of the time your screwed since there are usually not to many broadband ISP's around.
... count half of that toward the "server" and your talking about paying a measly 30/mo extra for 100Mb connectivity on a real network. To me its not much of a compeition.
The way I figure it is that your paying 40/mo for DSL/cable
mmmmmmmmm pr0n.
Christ just reading that many acroynms gives me a migrane ....
Because most of the time cable/dsl has absolutely shitty upload speeds. And it usually violates the TOS.
FYI check coloco.com or go with a cheapy dedicated company (valueweb.com)
Marketing in general is shit. Its all about lies and deciet. MS is not innovative when in comes to being lying dirty underhanded assholes.
I have far less of a problem with their marketing that their products.
"If you want every murder victim to be saved, then you can provide for all of their needs henceforth." or "If you want to save every starving person in Africa, then you can be completely responsible for caring for all of them after that." Heck, apply it to the extinction of species("you can give money to support every whale you want saved"). Are you willing to hold everyone else who fights against some injustice responsible to the same degree that you hold pro-lifers?
... Yes yes I did. The nazi's didnt just go to insta-kill that was the endpoint. First they laid down unjust laws, prosecuted dissidents and people who generally didnt agree with them. Which sounds EXACTLY like what is happening in this country RIGHT NOW.
Apply my axiom to the above statement. Most murder victims arent murdered by anyone they are dependant on. I am willing to hold people to their word. Its easy to say "save the world" and tell people what to do. Not so easy to take your own medicine and do it yourself.
Injustice ? I think bush being in office is an injustice, I think the war in Iraq is an injustice. I think a lot of things in this world happen that we do not have control over, cannot atone for and have no way to repair. Trying to be some tyrant who says what people can and cant do with their life and their body is bullshit. Its the type of thing I would expect from someone like hitler or stalin, not these pompus asses who claim to love america and then pull the same shit that forced our ancestors to revolt.
Didnt I point out that what the nazi did was extreme ?
Your post is not the only pro-life exposure I have had. They are no different than any other extremists. They dont care about rights, they care about control. You personally ? Dont know, dont care.