Back in the old days when the migration from 2.2 --> 2.4 was taking place many desktop'ers said 2.4 was ready at about 2.4.2. This was sooooo not the case, the system was unstable and generally had many many "little" bugs, which can amount to one very large headache for your average sysadmin.
Until Linus and the gang get the bug counts down see this Then I'm not using the damn thing. Of course YMMV up until a few weeks ago I was running a 2.4.18 kernel that was manually patched with XFS and NPTL.
obviously a BMW needs to generate about EUR 30,000 for the manufacturer and shipper
This discussion need not go any further. American (and european) goods cost money to manufacture and distribute, as such that money needs to be recouped. In order for that money to be recouped the purchaser must pay the equivlant value in the native currency.
Certain goods aren't applicable to worldwide market value. such as land/property and food. by and large food is usually generated locally, as such the manufacturer/distributer must only be compensated in the equivalent local currency.
The only way Globalization will help is if *POOF* the cost of living equals out. now last time i checked we have about 10 million people unemployed and about 20 million living in "poverty", yet the cost of living has only leveled off in this country it hasnt dropped.
going back to the other point: "Is someone there who can rent a nice place grabs a daily latte, and eats out three times a week for a total of $7,000/year, but makes $20,000 better or worse off than someone here who makes $60,000 but uses $55,000 to have a similar lifestyle, if say Swiss Watches, German cars, and American PCs cost the same in both places after adjusting for currency?"
That depends. Are the variables the same ? working hours, working days, working conditions, living conditions, healthcare quality etc.... ? usually *NOT* thats why the cost of living is much cheaper there than here.
Also the big thing that people say about outsourcing is something to the effect of "it will help the american economy by creating more higher paying jobs" ie management. I fail to see how this is the case especially since :
1) goods manufactured in place A have to be paid for in the equivlant amount of money, if it costs $80 to manufacture then $80 must be recouped, preferably more to make a profit.
2) If you make $8k in india that money isnt magically worth more when paying for goods from other locations since the goods must be payed for in the equivalent native currency. for instance the $80 item might "cost" $100 in the us, but might be set at a markey value of $20 in india, but the manufacturer cant afford to sell the item for a $60 loss. just because its sold in a differemt location doesnt drop the cost of making and distributing the procuct.
3) If you cut 50,000 jobs in the US you just lost 50k peoples tax money and disposable income. And although that HP is a really nice computer it still COST $300 to make/distribute so the guy working in india making only the equivlant to $100/month US wont be able to afford the damn thing.
Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that if you are cutting costs by underpaying the laborers you probably wont be selling products to them since they cant afford the products your selling.
And you can outsource all the labor, until the company itself is moved offshore you wont be able to reap the full benefits of the process. Bussiness income is subject to double taxation in the US, products sold here are subject to taxation and so are personal incomes, since the gov't has to pay "american" market price for its goods and services the american gov't has to charge that money to you and me, and IBM. As such the people who are still here (management) will have to make enough money to live at a decent standard, an american standard. this wont be doable if your selling shit for $1 in india. Until the asian market can afford to buy american goods (decades away) this is a waste of resources. More importantly if they are making the goods why would they buy american since it will inevitably cost more ? and the people will already know how to make it cheaper locally.
Globalization is basically a PC term to describe America and Western europe "funding" the modernization of foriegn economies, with very little hope of a ROI in our lifetime.
And no i dont give a fuck about helping the indians chinese and russians or anyone else by sacrificing my future or my job. And they dont care about helping me by refusing to take the job either.
Cool. Then lets TAX the fucking exported/imported labor like we do with regular products.
And right now indians cant afford american products. niether can chinese or russians.
we are basically funding their economy with the hope that someday they MIGHT buy stuff from us. oh.... and to pad the fat cats wallets.
If somebody could explain the logic behind this i would really like to know, and i dont buy this bullshit about the jobs being replaced, because they arent and if you think they are i would ask WHAT they are being replaced with, besides unemployment claims.
the american economy wont survive this trend. A shitload of people making "poverty" wages at the local burger joint wont be able to pay the gov't enough taxes, buy new homes, new cars, new computers etc.....
And in case we all forgot: the average american spends 2x as much money on luxury goods as the next highest country (netherlands).
indians making "upper class" wages in india are still only making 15-20k/year, so they still cant afford to buy cars, computers etc... unless they are offered for FAR less than they are here. which they might be, in which case i would ask why they arent sold cheaper here to lower the god-awful cost of living.
1) Python should not be used for a package management tool. It has to much process time involved in processing dependancies. (as an addendum python itself is DAMN slow when compared to a compiled language. google for it, the I/O handling on python is sub-par when compared to C/C++)
2) no useful installer.
3) to many damn scripts. send a coder to do the job you get one modular peice of code and a few libraries. send a scripter and you get hundreds of little scripts scattered from here to hell, that no other distro uses. Unix failed to penetrate the desktop market because of this vary thing. X users do A+B+C, y users do C+G+Y. Its moronic.
4) portage design. Why the hell is some of the stuff here and some of the stuff there ? why not make a central location put everything ('cept configs which belong in/etc) in that one location. or branched off of it.
5) the dependancy checking is half assed, I try to install db, db requires java, but i already have java installed (via portage) but it doesnt like HOW portage installed java, so the build dies complaning about needing some java item. (pick something, i have seen this with many different things: java include files, jar program, jvm etc...) this happens with many different things.
6) binary packages. The feature is there, yet they dont host any binary packages on there severs.
7) comments from ebuilds shouldnt be spewed out during an emerge, let alone an emerge world. they should be passed to a child proccess that retains the info and spits it out when the parent exits. or something along those lines.
Advice: realize that portage isnt fast, armak aint your daddy (neither is daniel) and the distro went to shit somewhere between 1.0 and 1.4.
And I wasnt trolling, Trolling is like this:
Gentoo blows small monkey's named fred, and its userbase rivals windows user base in common savvy.
I have several BSD boxes (and solaris if you want to count that) laying around. And I see your point, but BSD is suffering (and has been) from the same problem Linux was suffering from back-n-the day. Lack of enterprise support, lack of a wide developer base, lack of company support (ie graphics drivers), and lack of a userbase. do I like BSD ? yes. Do i think it runs as nicely as Linux ? no. but perhaps thats a misconception on my part, I never dove head first into BSD like i did with linux. (I own and have read several books on/about linux, coding for linux etc... and I work with linux all day.)
"it doesn't change when Johnny volunteer coder at Distro X learns Python and gets tricky with pretty buttons on a control panel."
Truer words have not yet been spoken. Thats one of the major draw backs of the open source (linux in specific) community, moronic windows lackey's are migrating over and bringing their half assed backwards way of doing shit with them. (witness the fall of redhat and gentoo as an example)
Well besides the fact that they are comparing OS's that will run on 1 specific computer (which OSX doesnt) you could also cover a myraid of different things:
1. 64 bit binaries are slower, G5 is a 64bit proc. (although Im not sure if apple has used the Open Source code to make their OS 64 bits yet)
2. The G5 procs are one of the top three avail in the market, (alpha and athlon64 would be my other guesses.... actually alpha IS the best for most stuff, athlon64 i haven't seen personally yet) xeon's are NOT.
3. No linux OS is very good on PPC..... yet. (thank you IBM; in advance)
4. Mac isnt portable. Meaning: a large reason why linux is so damn popular is because it prevents a monopoly by its very nature, can run on most if not all arch's, no vendor specific tie in's, mac promotes the exact opposite.
Mac OSX is nice, G5's are nice. But I wouldnt use mac OSX or any other GUI based OS on a server if you GAVE me the equipment. As a desktop I prefer englightenment (clean) not shiny shit with 8 gajillion (love that word) icons toolbars, menu bars etc.... But i recomend OSX to all the new computer users that ask because quite frankly: its better than microsoft.
Oh and the apple's drives are to slow to be fairly compared with the U320's in the dell. Serial ATA is decent, but its not on par with U320.
"When we inevitably learn that the gentoo portage system is riddled with problems, conflicting package maintenance mechanisms and policy, broken and overtweaked package scripts, and that the whole thing needs a certain amount of voodoo to work"
You know this is one of the better descriptions of portage/Gentoo I have heard. If I had the time/resources I would re-write portage using a bette langauge and more sane feature set. Portage was a good idea, and is a HORRIBLE implementation. however it still beats RPM.
PS somebody mod the parent up, I would have modded you up, but I already posted to this topic.
Too much for me ? I suppose if i was insulted i would argue that point, insted I'm going to re-iterate my point: Why exactly doesnt gentoo have an installer ? Why is it that you have to go through all of this retarded crap to install an OS, even slack has an installer.
I have been using gentoo since before 1.0, but this is getting old. especially now that they are starting to add config files for programs that dont use configs, and add directories for everything, and have shit spread out all to high hell. They are becoming a "l33t" redhat type distro, and it blows ass chunks.
that all depends on what they are testing. In general gentoos only major advantages are:
1. Portage. Its better for most than apt or rpm.
2. Responsiveness. Large apps that are compiled for a specific archetecture tend to work faster. Mozilla and evolution are noticably faster on my home system than on my work system (athlon 1.4 vs p4 1.4 same ram, same hard-drive speeds [hdparm -Tt]) which runs redhat.
Portage is also gentoo's major weakness IMHO they have to many scripters working on it, which is why you now have 9 gajillion python/bash/perl scripts to configure XYZ. Gentoo once showed alot of promise, now its fading fast.
And coming from somebody who has rebuilt 6 various systems with gentoo in the past week (cluster), they need to have a "distro" already built onto a disk rather than needing to build all of this extrenous BS. It wouldnt take much to offer "up an running in 10 minutes" iso's to people with a default set of apps, portage & tree etc. especially considering most gentoo users dont change things from the default settings (because they rarely know what they are doing)
Although i see your point, I wasnt reffering to un-installs. And just for reference you should check the emerge documentation, it does warn explicitly about this:
unmerge (-C short option)
WARNING: This action can remove important packages!
Removes all matching packages without checking for outdated
versions, effectively removing a package completely from
your system. Specify arguments using the dependency specification
format described in the clean action above.
the reason portage is so damn slow is two fold:
1. using a scripting language to do soemthing this in depth produces a metric-fuckton of code, most of which gets run over again and again.
2. The amount of data it goes over is much larger than most people realize.
and I think qpkg really is a POS. The functionality should have been built into portage in the first place, not written as yet another script. This (and many other) reason(s) is why many people i know have been talking about forking portage, or re-writting it in C/C++. Its a great idea, and a half assed implementation. (as is every other package management system). Its interesting that it doesnt uninstall all of the deep dependancies, untill now i hadn't noticed/needed to use that feature.
come again ? I am assuming that by multiple levels of dependancies you mean something like this:
I install ltsp-core which needs XFree which needs fontconfig. Portage handles this just fine.
I however might not be understanding what your talking about by "multiple levels of dependancies".
DNS isnt that simple. All the root NS handle is (most importantly) the authority records, such as the authoritative nameserver for slashdot.org, in order to get the needed info you will need to ask the authorotative server. Typically this is handled by your upstream provider. (ISP)
But to answer your question you could probably use a different namesever in china et all unless they are capturing outbound traffic (port 53 in specific).
I dont know how to do this in windows (since i dont use windows) but in *nix you would edit your/etc/resolv.conf file. then test it using the nslookup (screw dig) utility.
just out of pure curiosity have you checked out either gentoo or apt ? portage isnt the *perfect* solution but it is generally better than hunting for obscure dll files or rpms.
You know, the fucked up part is that your probably right about him getting re-elected. Howver I dont think another attack would help bush at this point, because i think after another attack the dems would point and say "see he isnt getting it done, we will"
Of course the retarded religious twits in this country might deciede to give him another "chance" to fix it anyway.
Have you actually looked at anything apple sells ? They are 100% geared to women and metrosexuals, I think they are god awful ugly (insert X item here) with the only exception being the Tibooks, and I would rather have an IBM than one of those.
Man I have even started looking at those working in retail with envy, and we know how dumb THOSE managers are.
....outnumbered in his/her own department by "peers" who don't know what they're doing these days. Not a good trend.
And I also believe this is why american IT people are treated like dirt and like disposable parts. Its also at the very root of the outsourcing trend. (that and the ultra-high cost of living in the US)
I agree. However (unfortunately) in the current industry enviroment alot of people who are doing IT (for the money) are not really IT people. I would have loved to be around in the late 60 til the early 90's before all these would be doctor/lawyer types started invading the industry.
The problem is that management thinks IT people are swapable, and not important because they have no idea what we are doing. (Anyone who thinks we are replaceable by some n00b who just got a 2 year degree from some shitty community college is in for some pain.) For proof that real IT people are irreplacable look at the disparity between a place like google and most other companies. I have worked in an enviroment that has 5k users, everything MS, mostly unpatched, no security team. think about how scary it would be for them to get a virus (its an outsourcing company), then think about how likely it is they will get a virus. thats how most places handle IT, the boss says here is a very small budget, hire the minimum amount of people with the minimum amount of experience (experience = higher pay) and make stuff work. Then they are amazed they call tech support 5 times a month with bullshit problems, problems that a half assed admin could handle in his sleep (yay cron).
management thinks IT people are swapable because the ass they are paying 20k per year to do IT is not an IT person, hence when they fire him they are not losing much.
I'm sorry maybe I'm jaded. But i dont understand why all these people went into IT in the first place when they are not IT people. I have two people that i work with that are college educated, that are smart about most things. Completely fucking clueless about computers, in 6+ months of 5x8 training they have absorbed nothing. For godsakes i asked one of them what the word interface meant and they said "CGI" and this is VERY VERY much indicative of the entire industry. developers releasing half assed broke to shit updates, admins scheduling downtime almost daily, network admins droping routing tables...... its like the apocolypse of the internet......
there are utilities (add-ons for rpm) that do things that are similar, but to the best of my knowledge there is nothing that does that for redhat by default. which is why i switched to portage. although the gentoo community has gone the way of the l33t-wannabe portage is still mostly functional (they are adding way to many extrenious scripts IMHO)
I dont think that windows is a very well desiegned platform in terms of security, and a *nix box could be more locked down than a windows system. However most of a systems or networks security is dependent on the person who is running it. for instance a kick ass windows admin would be likely to have a more secure system than a mediocre linux admin
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My karma is so going to hell for this .......
Back in the old days when the migration from 2.2 --> 2.4 was taking place many desktop'ers said 2.4 was ready at about 2.4.2. This was sooooo not the case, the system was unstable and generally had many many "little" bugs, which can amount to one very large headache for your average sysadmin.
Until Linus and the gang get the bug counts down see this Then I'm not using the damn thing. Of course YMMV up until a few weeks ago I was running a 2.4.18 kernel that was manually patched with XFS and NPTL.
obviously a BMW needs to generate about EUR 30,000 for the manufacturer and shipper
.... ? usually *NOT* thats why the cost of living is much cheaper there than here.
This discussion need not go any further. American (and european) goods cost money to manufacture and distribute, as such that money needs to be recouped. In order for that money to be recouped the purchaser must pay the equivlant value in the native currency.
Certain goods aren't applicable to worldwide market value. such as land/property and food. by and large food is usually generated locally, as such the manufacturer/distributer must only be compensated in the equivalent local currency.
The only way Globalization will help is if *POOF* the cost of living equals out. now last time i checked we have about 10 million people unemployed and about 20 million living in "poverty", yet the cost of living has only leveled off in this country it hasnt dropped.
going back to the other point:
"Is someone there who can rent a nice place grabs a daily latte, and eats out three times a week for a total of $7,000/year, but makes $20,000 better or worse off than someone here who makes $60,000 but uses $55,000 to have a similar lifestyle, if say Swiss Watches, German cars, and American PCs cost the same in both places after adjusting for currency?"
That depends. Are the variables the same ? working hours, working days, working conditions, living conditions, healthcare quality etc
Also the big thing that people say about outsourcing is something to the effect of "it will help the american economy by creating more higher paying jobs" ie management. I fail to see how this is the case especially since :
1) goods manufactured in place A have to be paid for in the equivlant amount of money, if it costs $80 to manufacture then $80 must be recouped, preferably more to make a profit.
2) If you make $8k in india that money isnt magically worth more when paying for goods from other locations since the goods must be payed for in the equivalent native currency. for instance the $80 item might "cost" $100 in the us, but might be set at a markey value of $20 in india, but the manufacturer cant afford to sell the item for a $60 loss. just because its sold in a differemt location doesnt drop the cost of making and distributing the procuct.
3) If you cut 50,000 jobs in the US you just lost 50k peoples tax money and disposable income. And although that HP is a really nice computer it still COST $300 to make/distribute so the guy working in india making only the equivlant to $100/month US wont be able to afford the damn thing.
Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that if you are cutting costs by underpaying the laborers you probably wont be selling products to them since they cant afford the products your selling.
And you can outsource all the labor, until the company itself is moved offshore you wont be able to reap the full benefits of the process. Bussiness income is subject to double taxation in the US, products sold here are subject to taxation and so are personal incomes, since the gov't has to pay "american" market price for its goods and services the american gov't has to charge that money to you and me, and IBM. As such the people who are still here (management) will have to make enough money to live at a decent standard, an american standard. this wont be doable if your selling shit for $1 in india. Until the asian market can afford to buy american goods (decades away) this is a waste of resources. More importantly if they are making the goods why would they buy american since it will inevitably cost more ? and the people will already know how to make it cheaper locally.
Globalization is basically a PC term to describe America and Western europe "funding" the modernization of foriegn economies, with very little hope of a ROI in our lifetime.
And no i dont give a fuck about helping the indians chinese and russians or anyone else by sacrificing my future or my job. And they dont care about helping me by refusing to take the job either.
Cool. Then lets TAX the fucking exported/imported labor like we do with regular products.
.... and to pad the fat cats wallets.
And right now indians cant afford american products. niether can chinese or russians.
we are basically funding their economy with the hope that someday they MIGHT buy stuff from us. oh
If somebody could explain the logic behind this i would really like to know, and i dont buy this bullshit about the jobs being replaced, because they arent and if you think they are i would ask WHAT they are being replaced with, besides unemployment claims.
the american economy wont survive this trend. A shitload of people making "poverty" wages at the local burger joint wont be able to pay the gov't enough taxes, buy new homes, new cars, new computers etc .....
And in case we all forgot: the average american spends 2x as much money on luxury goods as the next highest country (netherlands).
indians making "upper class" wages in india are still only making 15-20k/year, so they still cant afford to buy cars, computers etc... unless they are offered for FAR less than they are here. which they might be, in which case i would ask why they arent sold cheaper here to lower the god-awful cost of living.
snappy %75 of the time.
Thats not very good compared to OS X, which was built to run nativly on PPC hardware.
okay if you say so:
/etc) in that one location. or branched off of it.
1) Python should not be used for a package management tool. It has to much process time involved in processing dependancies. (as an addendum python itself is DAMN slow when compared to a compiled language. google for it, the I/O handling on python is sub-par when compared to C/C++)
2) no useful installer.
3) to many damn scripts. send a coder to do the job you get one modular peice of code and a few libraries. send a scripter and you get hundreds of little scripts scattered from here to hell, that no other distro uses. Unix failed to penetrate the desktop market because of this vary thing. X users do A+B+C, y users do C+G+Y. Its moronic.
4) portage design. Why the hell is some of the stuff here and some of the stuff there ? why not make a central location put everything ('cept configs which belong in
5) the dependancy checking is half assed, I try to install db, db requires java, but i already have java installed (via portage) but it doesnt like HOW portage installed java, so the build dies complaning about needing some java item. (pick something, i have seen this with many different things: java include files, jar program, jvm etc...) this happens with many different things.
6) binary packages. The feature is there, yet they dont host any binary packages on there severs.
7) comments from ebuilds shouldnt be spewed out during an emerge, let alone an emerge world. they should be passed to a child proccess that retains the info and spits it out when the parent exits. or something along those lines.
Advice: realize that portage isnt fast, armak aint your daddy (neither is daniel) and the distro went to shit somewhere between 1.0 and 1.4.
And I wasnt trolling, Trolling is like this:
Gentoo blows small monkey's named fred, and its userbase rivals windows user base in common savvy.
I have several BSD boxes (and solaris if you want to count that) laying around. And I see your point, but BSD is suffering (and has been) from the same problem Linux was suffering from back-n-the day. Lack of enterprise support, lack of a wide developer base, lack of company support (ie graphics drivers), and lack of a userbase. do I like BSD ? yes. Do i think it runs as nicely as Linux ? no. but perhaps thats a misconception on my part, I never dove head first into BSD like i did with linux. (I own and have read several books on/about linux, coding for linux etc... and I work with linux all day.)
"it doesn't change when Johnny volunteer coder at Distro X learns Python and gets tricky with pretty buttons on a control panel."
Truer words have not yet been spoken. Thats one of the major draw backs of the open source (linux in specific) community, moronic windows lackey's are migrating over and bringing their half assed backwards way of doing shit with them. (witness the fall of redhat and gentoo as an example)
thats what makes them "l33t".
Redhat is the microsoft of the linux world, they use custom apps to config/admin everything, they move files around and heavily customize everything.
When I say "L33t" I mean, "my box0r is m0' l33t than yous cause i C0mpile my 1nstalls y0" *Not_Better*.
Redhat = user friendly at any cost.
Gentoo = user friendly to a point, trying to preserve the "coolness" factor.
Well besides the fact that they are comparing OS's that will run on 1 specific computer (which OSX doesnt) you could also cover a myraid of different things:
.... actually alpha IS the best for most stuff, athlon64 i haven't seen personally yet) xeon's are NOT. ..... yet. (thank you IBM; in advance)
.... But i recomend OSX to all the new computer users that ask because quite frankly: its better than microsoft.
1. 64 bit binaries are slower, G5 is a 64bit proc. (although Im not sure if apple has used the Open Source code to make their OS 64 bits yet)
2. The G5 procs are one of the top three avail in the market, (alpha and athlon64 would be my other guesses
3. No linux OS is very good on PPC
4. Mac isnt portable. Meaning: a large reason why linux is so damn popular is because it prevents a monopoly by its very nature, can run on most if not all arch's, no vendor specific tie in's, mac promotes the exact opposite.
Mac OSX is nice, G5's are nice. But I wouldnt use mac OSX or any other GUI based OS on a server if you GAVE me the equipment. As a desktop I prefer englightenment (clean) not shiny shit with 8 gajillion (love that word) icons toolbars, menu bars etc
Oh and the apple's drives are to slow to be fairly compared with the U320's in the dell. Serial ATA is decent, but its not on par with U320.
"When we inevitably learn that the gentoo portage system is riddled with problems, conflicting package maintenance mechanisms and policy, broken and overtweaked package scripts, and that the whole thing needs a certain amount of voodoo to work"
You know this is one of the better descriptions of portage/Gentoo I have heard. If I had the time/resources I would re-write portage using a bette langauge and more sane feature set. Portage was a good idea, and is a HORRIBLE implementation. however it still beats RPM.
PS somebody mod the parent up, I would have modded you up, but I already posted to this topic.
Too much for me ? I suppose if i was insulted i would argue that point, insted I'm going to re-iterate my point:
Why exactly doesnt gentoo have an installer ? Why is it that you have to go through all of this retarded crap to install an OS, even slack has an installer.
I have been using gentoo since before 1.0, but this is getting old. especially now that they are starting to add config files for programs that dont use configs, and add directories for everything, and have shit spread out all to high hell. They are becoming a "l33t" redhat type distro, and it blows ass chunks.
that all depends on what they are testing. In general gentoos only major advantages are:
1. Portage. Its better for most than apt or rpm.
2. Responsiveness. Large apps that are compiled for a specific archetecture tend to work faster. Mozilla and evolution are noticably faster on my home system than on my work system (athlon 1.4 vs p4 1.4 same ram, same hard-drive speeds [hdparm -Tt]) which runs redhat.
Portage is also gentoo's major weakness IMHO they have to many scripters working on it, which is why you now have 9 gajillion python/bash/perl scripts to configure XYZ. Gentoo once showed alot of promise, now its fading fast.
And coming from somebody who has rebuilt 6 various systems with gentoo in the past week (cluster), they need to have a "distro" already built onto a disk rather than needing to build all of this extrenous BS. It wouldnt take much to offer "up an running in 10 minutes" iso's to people with a default set of apps, portage & tree etc. especially considering most gentoo users dont change things from the default settings (because they rarely know what they are doing)
BSD is nice, but its not as friendly as Linux. And thats saying alot.
The difference between Linux and BSD is the same type of difference between Windows and Linux.
the reason portage is so damn slow is two fold:
1. using a scripting language to do soemthing this in depth produces a metric-fuckton of code, most of which gets run over again and again.
2. The amount of data it goes over is much larger than most people realize.
and I think qpkg really is a POS. The functionality should have been built into portage in the first place, not written as yet another script. This (and many other) reason(s) is why many people i know have been talking about forking portage, or re-writting it in C/C++. Its a great idea, and a half assed implementation. (as is every other package management system). Its interesting that it doesnt uninstall all of the deep dependancies, untill now i hadn't noticed/needed to use that feature.
come again ? I am assuming that by multiple levels of dependancies you mean something like this: I install ltsp-core which needs XFree which needs fontconfig. Portage handles this just fine.
I however might not be understanding what your talking about by "multiple levels of dependancies".
DNS isnt that simple. All the root NS handle is (most importantly) the authority records, such as the authoritative nameserver for slashdot.org, in order to get the needed info you will need to ask the authorotative server. Typically this is handled by your upstream provider. (ISP)
/etc/resolv.conf file. then test it using the nslookup (screw dig) utility.
But to answer your question you could probably use a different namesever in china et all unless they are capturing outbound traffic (port 53 in specific).
I dont know how to do this in windows (since i dont use windows) but in *nix you would edit your
just out of pure curiosity have you checked out either gentoo or apt ? portage isnt the *perfect* solution but it is generally better than hunting for obscure dll files or rpms.
You know, the fucked up part is that your probably right about him getting re-elected. Howver I dont think another attack would help bush at this point, because i think after another attack the dems would point and say "see he isnt getting it done, we will"
Of course the retarded religious twits in this country might deciede to give him another "chance" to fix it anyway.
Have you actually looked at anything apple sells ? They are 100% geared to women and metrosexuals, I think they are god awful ugly (insert X item here) with the only exception being the Tibooks, and I would rather have an IBM than one of those.
Sad, isn't it?
....outnumbered in his/her own department by "peers" who don't know what they're doing these days. Not a good trend.
Man I have even started looking at those working in retail with envy, and we know how dumb THOSE managers are.
And I also believe this is why american IT people are treated like dirt and like disposable parts. Its also at the very root of the outsourcing trend. (that and the ultra-high cost of living in the US)
The problem is that management thinks IT people are swapable, and not important because they have no idea what we are doing. (Anyone who thinks we are replaceable by some n00b who just got a 2 year degree from some shitty community college is in for some pain.) For proof that real IT people are irreplacable look at the disparity between a place like google and most other companies. I have worked in an enviroment that has 5k users, everything MS, mostly unpatched, no security team. think about how scary it would be for them to get a virus (its an outsourcing company), then think about how likely it is they will get a virus. thats how most places handle IT, the boss says here is a very small budget, hire the minimum amount of people with the minimum amount of experience (experience = higher pay) and make stuff work. Then they are amazed they call tech support 5 times a month with bullshit problems, problems that a half assed admin could handle in his sleep (yay cron).
management thinks IT people are swapable because the ass they are paying 20k per year to do IT is not an IT person, hence when they fire him they are not losing much.
I'm sorry maybe I'm jaded. But i dont understand why all these people went into IT in the first place when they are not IT people. I have two people that i work with that are college educated, that are smart about most things. Completely fucking clueless about computers, in 6+ months of 5x8 training they have absorbed nothing. For godsakes i asked one of them what the word interface meant and they said "CGI" and this is VERY VERY much indicative of the entire industry. developers releasing half assed broke to shit updates, admins scheduling downtime almost daily, network admins droping routing tables
i think i have seen a new slashdot ism being born before my very eyes ......
exactly.
however redhat just started doing the 1.5 year life span thing recently. and microsoft has started to cut their life span has well.
no.
there are utilities (add-ons for rpm) that do things that are similar, but to the best of my knowledge there is nothing that does that for redhat by default. which is why i switched to portage. although the gentoo community has gone the way of the l33t-wannabe portage is still mostly functional (they are adding way to many extrenious scripts IMHO)
without question.
I dont think that windows is a very well desiegned platform in terms of security, and a *nix box could be more locked down than a windows system. However most of a systems or networks security is dependent on the person who is running it. for instance a kick ass windows admin would be likely to have a more secure system than a mediocre linux admin