on the high end, maybe. on the low end, that can't be further from the truth. on the low end, it's very cheap hardware, made up with better software
sangoma has made t1/e1 cards for some time now with drivers for *bsd and linux. they have just been recently merged into openbsd-current and will get maintained by the openbsd peeps there.
between carp, pf, pfsync, the soon-to-be-a-reality ifstated, and now the sangoma drivers, the question becomes more, why cisco?
besides, you shouldn't support cisco to begin with. they are an evil, non-oss friendly, non-free/open standard, company
even with a ratings system, who's going to set that standard? mmm, gov't. great, gov't legislates what's ok and what's not ok. how about industry? two words, clear channel.
it's really simple. this is not a problem that laws or a ratings system need to solve. parents need to solve this. not a computer, a human. god forbid parents spend time with their children these days.
you're making an exception to something because you agree with it. how convenient. so, whenever something you don't like is aired, no one should be able to listen to it?
my parents had cable/premium channels when i was growing up. they sure as hell had it when i started taking an interest in women *cough red shoe diaries cough* too. they were active in my upbringing and made sure i didn't watch things *THEY* didn't want me to watch. the few times they caught me, i caught hell for it
this problem is not for the gov't. to think that the gov't would even consider enforcing/legislating it's idea of morality is scary. this problem is for the parents.
not for long. the FCC wants to oversee cable and premium channels as well. oh, and satellite radio. oh, and lest we forget, the Internet. the 5 commissioners have all posted their opinions on the matter on fcc.gov. it's just waiting congressional debate/vote
stern started opposing bush *before* he was 'fired'. he's been in opposition of dubya for some time, especially when dubya went on about stem cell research. people seem to think he supported bush, that's flat out wrong. he voted for gore and he encouraged all of his fans to vote for gore. however, seeing as how 9/11 came not too long after President Vacation was sworn into office, and that it's been almost 3 years since 9/11, people operate under the misunderstanding that stern has supported bush since he became president. he did not. he supported the president after 9/11 because it was a difficult time for him (only recently have we learned it wasn't difficult at all). he would have done the same to any other president, and he still would call any other president on their shit if they messed up. stern happens to believe, as do many millions of other people, that it's not the job of the gov't to legislate morality. stern is pissed, i'm pissed, we both want dubya out.
it's only been in the past few months that stern has really laid into gwb and cc. he won a gubernatorial (sp?) race for one candidate, what makes you think he won't do the same for a presidential race?
howardstern.com and clearchannelsucks.info have lots of good info on this whole republican/christian-loony pissing match
it is bad because it places restrictions on the software past what are imposed by the bsd license. openbsd now uses the 2-clause license, and this new license apache uses (it's the same core issue (not free enough licenses) with cisco/vrrp and xfree86) a more restrictive license
theo has made it clear, a number of times, that nothing new will get into the tree with unfree licenses. he (and the rest of openbsd) want it this way.
really, it boils down to simplicity of the license. read the 30 or so lines of the 2-clause bsd license. then read this new apache license. then read the gpl. apache has just made their license more complex and as such, made their software less sought-after
no, downloading apache elsewhere and running it is not recommended.
the asf/apache still has got security bugs that are patched by openbsd/apache, but they (asf) refuse to accept the patches. that's why the openbsd description is (1.3.29... + patches)
yes, and most people like to make things more complicated than they need to be. it doesn't mean they are right, nor does "most" mean it's right either.
only on/. do you get your ass handed to you for minor technicalities
i say bullshit. "desktop environment" is a crock of shit that someone with too much time on their hands wanted a new term than "window manager". gnome and kde are very much window managers and they do way more than they need to
not implementing any of those? actually, how about taking it a step further and getting rid of a lot of stuff in there already?
i don't understand why windowmanagers need to do everything under the sun. the footprint of freebsd's gnome port is damn near 1GB. perhaps if the gnome and kde camps could focus on simplicity instead of features, things would be farther ahead than they are now. maybe we could all agree on a unified copy/paste for once for pete's sake.
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. Dennis Ritchie said that... if anyone knows why Unix should be simple, it's him
Anybody who says that Michael Powell is in the pocket of the broadcasters or any other major company doesn't know what they're talking about, and this is the proof for anybody who doubts that.
that's bunk
Clear Channel is the most financially supportive broadcaster of the Bush administration. CC CEO, John Hogan is a long-time good friend of the Bush family
guess who Fuhrer Powell takes his cues from? guess who his daddy is, and who he takes his cues from?
oh, and to debunk your statement, take a look sometime at the FCC's sheets. guess where Fuhrer Powell gets the money to go on trips to Las Vegas and New Orleans? the FCC budget? nope, those companies he 'regulates'
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i hope they include a fat pipe to the net to get them all ...
Why? Cisco does everything in hardware (ASICS).
on the high end, maybe. on the low end, that can't be further from the truth. on the low end, it's very cheap hardware, made up with better software
sangoma has made t1/e1 cards for some time now with drivers for *bsd and linux. they have just been recently merged into openbsd-current and will get maintained by the openbsd peeps there.
between carp, pf, pfsync, the soon-to-be-a-reality ifstated, and now the sangoma drivers, the question becomes more, why cisco?
besides, you shouldn't support cisco to begin with. they are an evil, non-oss friendly, non-free/open standard, company
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site.tgz,[install|upgrade].site (faq 4.13)
nuh uh ... it will have 1566 mouse buttons. duh!
But do you realize how much 100-200 gig SCSI drives cost? It would almost defeat the purpose of even setting it up ...
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let's rephrase this some
But do you realize how much an E450 costs? It would almost defeat the purpose of even setting it up
shift key? what are you, an english prof? =)
even with a ratings system, who's going to set that standard? mmm, gov't. great, gov't legislates what's ok and what's not ok. how about industry? two words, clear channel.
it's really simple. this is not a problem that laws or a ratings system need to solve. parents need to solve this. not a computer, a human. god forbid parents spend time with their children these days.
you're making an exception to something because you agree with it. how convenient. so, whenever something you don't like is aired, no one should be able to listen to it?
my parents had cable/premium channels when i was growing up. they sure as hell had it when i started taking an interest in women *cough red shoe diaries cough* too. they were active in my upbringing and made sure i didn't watch things *THEY* didn't want me to watch. the few times they caught me, i caught hell for it
this problem is not for the gov't. to think that the gov't would even consider enforcing/legislating it's idea of morality is scary. this problem is for the parents.
yes, the law is more lax later in the evening.
the cable channels aren't under the same FCC
not for long. the FCC wants to oversee cable and premium channels as well. oh, and satellite radio. oh, and lest we forget, the Internet. the 5 commissioners have all posted their opinions on the matter on fcc.gov. it's just waiting congressional debate/vote
there was a technical solution to this problem in 2437BC actually
it's called no power. it's an amazing feature
not quite. depends on how you define "Pro-Bush"
stern started opposing bush *before* he was 'fired'. he's been in opposition of dubya for some time, especially when dubya went on about stem cell research. people seem to think he supported bush, that's flat out wrong. he voted for gore and he encouraged all of his fans to vote for gore. however, seeing as how 9/11 came not too long after President Vacation was sworn into office, and that it's been almost 3 years since 9/11, people operate under the misunderstanding that stern has supported bush since he became president. he did not. he supported the president after 9/11 because it was a difficult time for him (only recently have we learned it wasn't difficult at all). he would have done the same to any other president, and he still would call any other president on their shit if they messed up. stern happens to believe, as do many millions of other people, that it's not the job of the gov't to legislate morality. stern is pissed, i'm pissed, we both want dubya out.
it's only been in the past few months that stern has really laid into gwb and cc. he won a gubernatorial (sp?) race for one candidate, what makes you think he won't do the same for a presidential race?
howardstern.com and clearchannelsucks.info have lots of good info on this whole republican/christian-loony pissing match
it is bad because it places restrictions on the software past what are imposed by the bsd license. openbsd now uses the 2-clause license, and this new license apache uses (it's the same core issue (not free enough licenses) with cisco/vrrp and xfree86) a more restrictive license
theo has made it clear, a number of times, that nothing new will get into the tree with unfree licenses. he (and the rest of openbsd) want it this way.
really, it boils down to simplicity of the license. read the 30 or so lines of the 2-clause bsd license. then read this new apache license. then read the gpl. apache has just made their license more complex and as such, made their software less sought-after
no, downloading apache elsewhere and running it is not recommended. the asf/apache still has got security bugs that are patched by openbsd/apache, but they (asf) refuse to accept the patches. that's why the openbsd description is (1.3.29 ... + patches)
yes, and most people like to make things more complicated than they need to be. it doesn't mean they are right, nor does "most" mean it's right either.
only on /. do you get your ass handed to you for minor technicalities
i say bullshit. "desktop environment" is a crock of shit that someone with too much time on their hands wanted a new term than "window manager". gnome and kde are very much window managers and they do way more than they need to
not implementing any of those? actually, how about taking it a step further and getting rid of a lot of stuff in there already?
... if anyone knows why Unix should be simple, it's him
i don't understand why windowmanagers need to do everything under the sun. the footprint of freebsd's gnome port is damn near 1GB. perhaps if the gnome and kde camps could focus on simplicity instead of features, things would be farther ahead than they are now. maybe we could all agree on a unified copy/paste for once for pete's sake.
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. Dennis Ritchie said that
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Q. What is Cisco IOS XR Software?
IOS eXtremely Rootable
http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/pf/filter.html#osfp
vi vs Emacs or KDE vs GNOME
and ignore the one true editor (mg) and one true wm (ice)?
i thought this would be a semi-cool thing, thinking "Flash" was compact flash, or some sort of rom. some flash movie is no big deal
Hopefully the spammers aren't that bright
i'm sorry, but that implies that spammers are in some way and in some magnitude, bright. sir, i am sorry, but this is simply not true.
don't follow ours
if their news media is anything to go by, maybe we should hold off on that for now ..
Anybody who says that Michael Powell is in the pocket of the broadcasters or any other major company doesn't know what they're talking about, and this is the proof for anybody who doubts that.
that's bunk
Clear Channel is the most financially supportive broadcaster of the Bush administration. CC CEO, John Hogan is a long-time good friend of the Bush family
guess who Fuhrer Powell takes his cues from? guess who his daddy is, and who he takes his cues from?
oh, and to debunk your statement, take a look sometime at the FCC's sheets. guess where Fuhrer Powell gets the money to go on trips to Las Vegas and New Orleans? the FCC budget? nope, those companies he 'regulates'