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Apple 100,000,000 iTMS celebration

beef curtains writes "From Apple's iTunes Music Store Countdown page: 'When the number of songs downloaded from Apple's iTunes Music Store crosses 95 million, Apple will begin the countdown to 100 million songs by giving away 50 special 20GB iPods -- one to the purchaser of each 100,000th song downloaded between 95 million and 100 million songs. In addition, the person who downloads the 100 millionth song will receive a 17-inch PowerBook, a 40GB iPod, a gift certificate for 10,000 iTunes songs to create the ultimate music library for the iPod, and the opportunity to create a Celebrity Playlist to be published on the iTunes Music Store.' Check out the countdown on Apple's front page, and get ready to drop stupid amounts of cash on iTMS over the weekend. I'll see you in the ramen noodle aisle after the count passes 100 million!"

106 comments

  1. Most popular albums will have tons of songs by amichalo · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you think of this like a raffle, there are $0.99 single entries, or multiple entries for $9.99 which are the ablums.

    So bring on the iMixes with the most songs for $9.99. I recommend Rush in Rio, a live Rush concert featuring 31 rocking hits from Neal Peart, Geddy Lee, and Alex Lifeson for $17.99, that's only $0.58 per raffle entry and some great live rock to boot!

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    1. Re:Most popular albums will have tons of songs by dtungsten · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's the easiest way to do your part in helping Apple reach 100 Million Songs?
      *Buy This Album*

    2. Re:Most popular albums will have tons of songs by CptChipJew · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I found an iMix with 100 songs but I don't think you can buy it in one piece. Also, I found an iMix, Songs from Alias, which had 38 songs, costing $37.62 to buy the whole thing (0.99 per track) :(

      So it looks like only the modest-sized iMix's can be purchased in a package, and you're still paying the 0.99 per song

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    3. Re:Most popular albums will have tons of songs by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Buying that album should indeed increase the odds of winning, given all those... er... cuts on it, but then what? When Apple announces the lucky winner, do you really want to be publicly known for having bought that??

  2. Is that counter live? by Ianoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The counter on the front page of Apple.com seems stuck at 94,767,325 no matter how much I'm refreshing. A live updater would be more handy ;)

    But seriously, much as I dislike the RIAA, its tactics and current copyright arrangements for music and films in general, it's nice to see a company other than Microsoft having some success for a change.

    1. Re:Is that counter live? by ruud · · Score: 5, Informative

      the counter is updated every 5 minutes. i created a page showing a graph of the number of songs sold and the rate of sales.

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    2. Re:Is that counter live? by crackshoe · · Score: 1

      You rock my small, self-centered universe.

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    3. Re:Is that counter live? by fulldecent · · Score: 1
      If it was real time, you could increase your chances of winning, by reloading the page more as it approaches $num % 50000 == 0.

      Which is really what they want: a bunch of kids that want something for free, jamming on their F5 keys faster and faster DDOSing them every 50,000 songs sold

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    4. Re:Is that counter live? by PetrusMagnusII · · Score: 1

      however if you click on that giant image, their is a counter that will be on the top right hand side of the page it takes you to that apears to be much closer to live...

  3. So... Huh? by Apiakun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In order to download a track from iTunes you have to purchase it. However, this page states that "No purchase necessary". I'm sure the legal department said they have to throw that in, but how else are you going to win without purchasing anything? Pepsi bottle caps? Gift certificate downloads? The average person is going to have to buy something.

    1. Re:So... Huh? by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Informative

      They havn't published the offical rules yet, but they will probably allow you to send a self addressed stamped envelope which when you get it will be good for 1 pretend itunes purchase. Legally they have to do this in most states, though your chances of winning are greatly reduced when you have to send an envelope for each single purchase, especially funny considering it has to be self stamped 37 cents each way = 74 cents to get a fake itunes purchase, no music included, HAHA.

    2. Re:So... Huh? by Otter · · Score: 1
      All commercial contests in the US have "No purchase necessary" to avoid being considered gambling. Normally you can send them a letter (usually with an SASE to get a game piece) to participate.

      They say they'll be posting official rules soon; if you really can't wait, look at a cereal box to get the general idea.

    3. Re:So... Huh? by Apiakun · · Score: 1

      Right, well how would they even go about counting that? Do they have a guy opening envelopes and incrementing a counter somewhere ? I can see that for real contests, but not for something like this where a computer is doing the counter.

    4. Re:So... Huh? by wildman6801 · · Score: 1

      Remember that iTunes has a free song each week!

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    5. Re:So... Huh? by mstra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The iTMS has a free song to download every week. So I suppose if you downloaded that and it was the winner...you'd win.

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    6. Re:So... Huh? by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Probably sends you back a code like the pepsi free itunes codes, BUT you win this sound clip that they are giving away and don't care about or something like that.

    7. Re:So... Huh? by ColdCuts · · Score: 1

      Prehaps the free song of the day counts?

    8. Re:So... Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Good idea. By the time the self-addressed stamped envelope reaches Apple, is piled up with tons other self-addressed stamped envelopes, filled by some poor mail guy and finally returned to you, the counter on Apple's site shows 100,000,001 songs have been sold. HAHA! :)

    9. Re:So... Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the sound clip of silence.

    10. Re:So... Huh? by teraph · · Score: 1

      Two actually. There is an iTunes mix that lists every song they have given away for free. There are two listed each week. I know one shows up on the home page of iTunes, I don't know where the other one comes from. Here's the URL for that mix:

      http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/ viewPublishedPlaylist?id=47821

    11. Re:So... Huh? by fyonn · · Score: 1

      Remember that iTunes has a free song each week!

      anyone know when we're gonna get that in the UK?

      or the charts?

      dave

    12. Re:So... Huh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How To Enter. You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any Free Download Single of the Week will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of sending an email to Apple at itunes100@apple.com via the iTunes "Tell a Friend" feature (a song download or Tell a Friend email will be deemed an "Entry(ies"). The "Tell a Friend" feature can be easily accessed at iTunes by selecting a song, and clicking the "Tell a Friend" link that is displayed for that song. One Entry will be automatically submitted for each song downloaded or Tell a Friend email sent. The Promotion begins following the downloading of the 95,000,000th iTunes song, and ends with the downloading of the 100 millionth Entry ("End Date"). Only Entries submitted in this time period will be accepted.

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    13. Re:So... Huh? by fscmj · · Score: 1
      Just checked - Apple has posted the official rules now. No mailing necessary actually. It says
      How To Enter. You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any Free Download Single of the Week will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of sending an email to Apple at itunes100@apple.com via the iTunes "Tell a Friend" feature (a song download or Tell a Friend email will be deemed an "Entry(ies"). The "Tell a Friend" feature can be easily accessed at iTunes by selecting a song, and clicking the "Tell a Friend" link that is displayed for that song. One Entry will be automatically submitted for each song downloaded or Tell a Friend email sent. The Promotion begins following the downloading of the 95,000,000th iTunes song, and ends with the downloading of the 100 millionth Entry ("End Date"). Only Entries submitted in this time period will be accepted.
      Happy Clicking!
    14. Re:So... Huh? by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      So they are going to count "Tell a Friend" as a song downloaded, won't that kinda screw up the count. 100,000,000 million songs downloaded, or Told to Friends. Isn't quite the same.

    15. Re:So... Huh? by fscmj · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't think thats how it works. An entry is a song downloaded or a "tell a friend email sent" but a download is a purchased and downloaded song. From the rules is says
      How You Win. Winners will be determined by the order of the Entries received. One 20GB iPod will be awarded for each Entry sent immediately following the 99,999th song downloaded, until iTunes reaches its 100 millionth Entry. (One 20GB iPod will be given away for the 95,100,000th Entry, 95,200,000th Entry,....99,900,000th Entry).
      I read this as saying that tell a friend entries do nothing for the download count. When the download count gets to the point just prior to the win, then and only then is the term "Entry" useful.
    16. Re:So... Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell a friend. It's in the official rules at the bottom of the page you linked to, here.

      Paragraph 3:

      "You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any Free Download Single of the Week will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of sending an email to Apple at itunes100@apple.com via the iTunes "Tell a Friend" feature (a song download or Tell a Friend email will be deemed an "Entry(ies"). The "Tell a Friend" feature can be easily accessed at iTunes by selecting a song, and clicking the "Tell a Friend" link that is displayed for that song. One Entry will be automatically submitted for each song downloaded or Tell a Friend email sent. The Promotion begins following the downloading of the 95,000,000th iTunes song, and ends with the downloading of the 100 millionth Entry ("End Date"). Only Entries submitted in this time period will be accepted."

    17. Re:So... Huh? by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      So ultimatly when the person who is the final winner at 100,000,000 it will be the entry marked 100,000,000 but not nessessarly the 100,000,000th song. That kinda sucks, as they can't legally offer anything cool to the true 100,000,000th song.

    18. Re:So... Huh? by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I know one shows up on the home page of iTunes, I don't know where the other one comes from.

      The other one is called the "Discovery Download," and can be found on the front page of one of the Genre sections (Alternative, Blues, Classical, Country, Dance, etc.) each week; apparently the idea is to give people a song from a genre they might not otherwise try, and help them discover something they might like (and just maybe, might buy). The "discovery" part of it may also refer to one's "discovery" of it in the store, since it's not listed on the front page or anything but is semi-hidden in the store; one has to hunt for it, though since it's on one of the Genre front pages, it's not exactly hard to find (particularly since that one user maintains that iMix listing of all the freebies to date).

  4. iTMS where are you? by Uninen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somehow I'm getting more and more eager to get iTMS here in Finland, too.

    Oh, well. It's not like they're giving away free iPods or anything.

    No, wait..

    1. Re:iTMS where are you? by sevenofnine · · Score: 1

      another /.'er living in finland! yeah hoping it comes here soon too..

  5. Um? by jm92956n · · Score: 1

    When the number of songs downloaded from Apple's iTunes Music Store crosses 95 million. . .

    But how many of those 95 million songs were actually purchased? Haven't they given away, through various promotions, a lot of songs already? I still question the commercial viability of the iTunes Music Store.

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    1. Re:Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They gave away next to nothing via the Pepsi Give Away.

      You're right though, it'll never fly. This whole Internet thing is just hype too. I mean, how many people really spend all their time on their computer talking to other people on computers.

    2. Re:Um? by allgood2 · · Score: 1

      Most. Apple has consistently excluded songs given away via the Pepsi promotion as part of their sales numbers. But there are the weekly FREE downloads, which may or may not be counted. All toll though, I'd say a very large percent of the songs were sold, most probably as albums.

  6. I am wondering if this can be timed? by PaulBu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    After the count reaches the required # of mils, observe the counter value vs. Time (maybe requires some OCR software to get the number from the GIF or whatever Apple used to prevent this type of thing), then try to make a best prediction when 10,000 mark is getting close and dump some cash in.

    Might work, huh?

    Paul B.

    P.S. Even if one does not want to actually risk their $$ on this game, a software to plot the chart would be still interesting to hack together -- by taking a derivative we will see if other people are trying to do this -- if yes, dN/dT should peak around 10,000*x

    1. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The counter isn't actually updating live - it seems like every 30 minutes or so.

    2. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      whatever Apple used to prevent this type of thing)

      If I were them, what I'd do is have the counter lag a random amount of time between 45 minutes and an hour. Since they appear to be selling between 100 and 200 songs a minute They'd get an extra 10000 song sales or so out of the promotion, and they'd make it incredibly difficult to win through prediction.

    3. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by ruud · · Score: 1

      there are about 8 songs purchased per second (as shown in this graph), and the counter is updated only once every few minutes, so it's quite hard to predict it with any kind of useful accuracy.

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    4. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by PaulBu · · Score: 1

      Yes, my numbers, see above in this thread, give me about 7.8 songs/sec right now!

      (And you did beat me to plotting that graph! ;-) )

      Did you put it together after they announced the sweepstakes or was it always there, btw?

      Paul B.

    5. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The counter isn't actually updating live - it seems like every 30 minutes or so.

      It's more like every five minutes, actually.

    6. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by ratsnapple+tea · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you were Apple, why would you care? Someone's going to win no matter what. And there'll be a spike in sales no matter what.

    7. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by Flexagon · · Score: 1

      Might work, huh?

      And then maybe Apple will be in the mood to issue duplicate prizes for automated winners.

    8. Re:I am wondering if this can be timed? by yabos · · Score: 1

      I bet it's delayed quite a while, maybe even a few hours to keep people from doing that.

  7. 10,000 songs? by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 1

    i hope they include a fat pipe to the net to get them all ...

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  8. No, it is not... ;-( by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    From http://phobos.apple.com/external_counter.js:

    function count(){ var num = 94778717;return num; }

    does not look like too dynamic a function to me...

    Paul B.

    1. Re:No, it is not... ;-( by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's updated every five minutes. Keep watching. For instance, right now it says:

      function count(){ var num = 94790014;return num; }

      That's more than 10,000 songs since your comment was posted.

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  9. promotion not news by solferino · · Score: 1, Insightful


    So slashdot sinks to reporting company give-away promotions.

    1. Re:promotion not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > So slashdot sinks to reporting company give-away promotions.

      On apple.slashdot.org, everything Apple does is news.

  10. Hey you! by plj · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You just stole my obligatory insensitive clod joke about not living in a country where iTMS operates.

    Damn guys from Turku, always getting on the way... even on Slashdot, perkele!

    (For those who didn't get it: me and parent live in different cities in Finland, and people on my and his city are always ready to start flamewar with each other. I don't think there are enough of us on /. for that, though. ;-) )

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    1. Re:Hey you! by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Here comes Tampere!

      (Karma is cheap to burn on the first Finn thread I have ever seen ;))

      <Insert funny anecdote of Finland here>

  11. For those interested in tracking iTMS sales.. by sessha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple people over at MacRumors forums have created some simple tracking devices for sales since the counter has gone up. Check out some graphs here and or download this simple app (Windows and Mac OS X in archive).

    1. Re:For those interested in tracking iTMS sales.. by lingsb · · Score: 1

      The peaks an troughs in the data are because the sample rate is wrong. It should be every 6 minutes, not every 5 minutes. This gives 2 samples too many per hour, hence the half-hourly occurrence of 0 songs being sold in that time interval...

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  12. and the winner will be by Quanza · · Score: 0

    the individual who writes a screen scaper to notify when a threshold has passed, and then purchases large albums until they cross over 100 mil.
    yay.

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  13. It is not suppose to be commerically viable. by MyNameIsFred · · Score: 3, Informative
    Apple has repeatedly said that they make very little money on iTMS. It is mainly a tool for selling iPods, where they make a ton of money.

    And most of the 95 million songs have been sold. Apple and Pepsi stated only about five million songs were given away in the Pepsi contest (although there were 100 million chances to win). And that was the biggest promotion that they have had

    1. Re:It is not suppose to be commerically viable. by baruz · · Score: 1

      I believe that Pepsi paid for any redeemed Pepsi promotion songs, but cannot find the reference. If so, all the 95 million + songs were sold.

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  14. Bloody Apple by mister_tim · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I didn't like their stuff so much, I'd be so annoyed that they keep offering such good competitions in the US and leave Australians (and many other places, I'm sure) out to dry.

    We'd be happy enough even just to have access to the iTMS - the competition would be nice too, but please at least let us use the store.

  15. Well, I agree! (see my other post below) by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    But it depends on if 30 min is "live" enough on the timescale. 95M songs over, how long have they been around, a year? 1y = 17520 half-hours, or about 5,400 songs/half hour... Yeah, not enough resolution, but maybe 1) they were around longer than a year and 2) one can play day vs. night hours game. When would you expect purchases to peak? Maybe 4 pm Western time to 2 AM Eastern time, or something... The rest of the day kids are in school or sleeping, orders flow in much more slowly and can probably be timed.

    Paul B.

  16. Depends on WHICH minute? ;-) by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering where did you get the 100-200 songs/min number from (see my other post, I came up with 180 songs/minute, not too bad!) -- but there are early morning minutes and afternoon minutes, I bet the majority of the purchases happen in the late afternoon.

    Paul B.

  17. When I get home tonight I start wget! ;-) by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    (I thought it was going to be harder than that to get the number out...)

    Or maybe I'm just too bored at work today...

    Paul B.

  18. According to the data from this thread: by PaulBu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=113152&cid=958 7496

    it is 470 songs/minute RIGHT NOW. Wow, not bad at all they are doing! ;-)

    (See the actual values and posting time)

    Paul B.

    1. Re:According to the data from this thread: by slartibarfast · · Score: 1

      Get Ready to watch ITMS sales slow to a crawl until 95m, then burst right through the 100m mark as everybody Amasses-waits-buys their huge cartfull of music.

  19. I really want that playlist by foidulus · · Score: 1

    Think about all the random stuff you could put out on that playlist. The Girl with the Vagina Made of Glass comes to mind(great song btw).
    And we can only imagine what would happen if the GNAA got to control the playlist....

  20. "my iTunes" by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I was watching Wimbledon yesterday, and there was an interview with Maria Sharapova, the 17-year-old "next big thing" from Russia.

    The interviewer asked her what she did in her spare time and she said something along the lines of: "I'm always listening to my iPod, always listening to my iTunes ".

    I'm not sure why but I found this quite sad. It's as if, to her, the artists and even the music itself has lost any uniqueness or individuality. The songs are just a collection of different products on "my iTunes".

    I suppose it's no different from someone saying, ten years ago, that they like listening to the radio. I just felt... resentful? I think that's the best word to sum it up. I feel that people should consider each artist/song as something special, not just "my iTunes". Nobody would say "I like listening to music from HMV" or "I like listening to music from Walmart", so why do people have this fondness for iTunes? It's just another store with the single goal of making money.

    It's an odd form of brand loyalty, and I have to say that I don't like it.

    1. Re:"my iTunes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feel so bad... it's probably because the iTunes is her interface to her music. Like saying, "I like working on the computer", or, you're right, I like listening to the radio. It doesn't imply she considers all the songs as just undifferentiated "product".

      But I want to take issue with another of your comments:
      "It's just another store with the single goal of making money."

      Actually, it's not. It seems pretty obvious that for Jobs the making of money is more means than goal, certainly not "the single goal". It's means to his goal, which is an obsession with the technology...with creation. Much more of a rush than simple accumulation of funds (as good as that is to have around).

    2. Re:"my iTunes" by egomaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure why but I found this quite sad. It's as if, to her, the artists and even the music itself has lost any uniqueness or individuality. The songs are just a collection of different products on "my iTunes".

      In addition to the store, the term iTunes also refers to the software (very similar to, say, MusicMatch) that runs on your system and functions as a music player.

      I'm pretty sure that she didn't mean "I'm listening to music that I have purchased through iTunes". She just meant that she was listening to the iTunes player on her desktop.

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    3. Re:"my iTunes" by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

      You may well be right. My "single goal" comment was just lazy cynicism. I really don't know enough about Jobs to make an educated comment.

    4. Re:"my iTunes" by Andy+Smith · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please don't undermine my pessimism with logic! :-)

    5. Re:"my iTunes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno. I think it is good that people listen to their iTunes. In the past (I suspect even now), people try to show off their taste by naming certain artists, trying to make themselves more intellegent or hip, even when they don't really like them. It seems that showing off one's taste has been shifted to owning an iPod.

      Albums are replaced with playlists and it's alright not to listen to the whole Mozart CD and it's okay to listen to a (just one!) song by Britney. Maybe people are more honest about what they like and enjoy more music. And that collectton of variety of music becomes one's iTunes.

      BTW, iTunes is the jukebox application. iTunes Music Store is the download service. The iTunes she was quoted probably refers to iTunes playlists.

  21. seems like a stupid prize... by shaitand · · Score: 1, Insightful

    After all the customers of the itunes music store generally ALREADY have ipods :)

    1. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by metalligoth · · Score: 1

      I buy from iTMS (that's iTunes Music Store, for the uninitiated), and I have a 2nd gen iPod. It's a 10 GB. I'm going to buy a 40 GB as soon as I can afford it. There are plenty of people that don't have 40 GB iPods that want one. Those that don't, well, there's always eBay. Then they can get 500 more songs. *lol*

      Oh, and Apple's also giving away a $2500 (or more) laptop. Even if you have an iPod, you can't beat that prize easily.

    2. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't have an iPod, but I buy stuff from iTMS. Ya know, there's a handy "Burn to CD" feature in iTunes you can use.

    3. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll tell you what then... if you win one of the "stupid" prizes, I'm sure somebody will gladly take it off your hands. After all, why would you want a "stupid" prize?

    4. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I won't win one, because I don't use the ITMS. I don't use the ITMS because I don't have an ipod. Starting to get the idea?

    5. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why do you even care about the "stupid" prize if you don't use iTMS? Apple troll, eh?

    6. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Aye, I won't feed the trolls anymore *sprays you with troll begone*

    7. Re:seems like a stupid prize... by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      eBay it, bay-bee!

  22. should be easy to predict (hopefully!) by xirtam_work · · Score: 1

    i've written a little webpage that tracks the counter value and displays how many song sales to go before the next 100,000 milestone. The background changes colour from green, yellow , orange and finally red when it's about time to get buying a tune. it updates every 60 seconds. Apple's counter appears to update every 2 to 5 minutes.

    Plotting a graph the sales over time seem very linear - it's a straight line at the moment. It's trivial to extract the value for the counter, although i'm not spilling the beans here to avoid everyone hitting apples server even harder than it is now.

    I hope to get an ipod as my 40gb model that i purchased whlst on holiday in the USA was stolen when my car was broken into the other week.

    anyway, there should be 50 chances to hit it correctly. A friend of mine was talking about getting his script to SMS him just before he should get getting online to make a purchase... i could do with that if it happens in the middle of the night!

    1. Re:should be easy to predict (hopefully!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Plotting a graph the sales over time seem very linear - it's a straight line at the moment. It's trivial to extract the value for the counter, although i'm not spilling the beans here to avoid everyone hitting apples server even harder than it is now."

      yeah..uh..no...I am sure that trend will not be linear when it nears 100,000, good luck predicting the spike

    2. Re:should be easy to predict (hopefully!) by xirtam_work · · Score: 1

      well, the trend has continued pretty much as a straight line. a slight kink in it earlier this morning.

      my webpage worked perfectly. i had it open in the background and when the colour changed to yellow and then orange i was there. i bought a song when it was about 2,500 away, then at 1,000ish and then it came up as 98 songs away!! blimey, i was clicking like crazy.

      It's now 97756 until the next one. Fingers crossed for everyone here! Good luck

    3. Re:should be easy to predict (hopefully!) by xirtam_work · · Score: 1

      I'm an idiot. I didn't read the rules. Apparently the prizes are from 95,100,000 to 100,000,000. So, it didn't include the 95,000,000th song :-(

      Next time I will do as suggested and buy an album. Although, buying 50 albums at 7.99 each in order to win an iPod works out at 399.50 anyway.

      Maybe, I'll stick with single purchases until around the 100 million mark.

    4. Re:should be easy to predict (hopefully!) by yabos · · Score: 1

      How do you know that the counter is really "live"? They don't say what the delay is in the counter. It could be an hour for all you know, and then tonnes of people buy at the last second. To their dismay, the 100,000,000th song has already been sold an hour ago ;)

  23. Dell DJ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I hope you posted this same comment on the Dell DJ story on the front page.

  24. Re:beef curtains? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, what does it mean?

  25. suspicious numbers by sdedeo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The numbers seem very suspicious: that curve is decidedly linear. You would expect to see some variation, because of (for example) of the time of day. It looks like Apple picked some reasonable songs/minute value.

    What happens when the reasonable rate begins to differ from the average real rate? It would probably be a bad idea for them to give out the actual data, which would be useful for competitors.

    Anyway, either Apple is going to use the actual data, or they are going to use the fake data. I imagine they will use the fake data, because otherwise the 10^8 mile mark will come on the homepage at the wrong time. If they *do* use the fake data, you could theoretically increase the odds of winning to something like 1 in 2000 by picking the right five minute interval. If you were even smarter, you could time it to the second.

    Assuming you're the only one to read this comment, of course. I wonder what the legal implications are?

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    1. Re:suspicious numbers by zbrimhall · · Score: 0

      It would probably be a bad idea for them to give out the actual data, which would be useful for competitors.

      Useful how? For reminding competitors how much it sucks when someone else owns 70% of the market?

      Though what's weird is how the time of day vs. number of songs kind oscillates like a heartbeat... Kinda as if iTunes were alive and intelligent... You know, maybe that's how all the magicly fast searching in iTunes and Tiger works. Pretty soon, with the aid of self-aware software on everyone's computers, and stealth networking via Rendezvous, Apple will finally execute its plan to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! GOD HELP US ALL!!! JOBS WILL TURN US ALL INTO OOMPA LOOMPA CODE SLAVES AND MAKE US WORK IN HIS CANDY FACTORY!!!

      Ahem... sorry. Still, if 4.7 has the ability to make musical recomendations, I'm gonna move into a bomb shelter in Nevada.

    2. Re:suspicious numbers by redJag · · Score: 1

      people in large groups are frighteningly predictable. economics, my friend :)

  26. Re:beef curtains? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I gotta believe you know, but if you don't:

    It's a crude slang term for the labia minora, vaginal lips.

  27. The war is on full bore now by chia_monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You gotta love this news. This comes out while Dell has their "trade in your old iPod for $100 off one of our mp3 player" deals. Sony announced their "we have a media player that isn't exactly mp3 but we plan on it killing the iPod" player. Microsoft no doubt wants to have their new device (whenever it comes out) unseat the iPod. It's a war out there, and Apple (who already holds the lead in market share of players) is upping the ante once again and rubbing everyone's nose in the fact they're about to have 100 million download. Wow...just wow. I wonder what the mp3 player and music download site scene will look like a year from now.

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    "He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts...for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang
    1. Re:The war is on full bore now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing exciting, I bet. A year from now, the legal download market will be littered with the remains of BuyMusic^H^H^H^H^H.com, Napster, Real. Sony may last longer due to their size and control of Columbia. After all, you can't keep losing money even when you have a big customer base. That's the lesson from the dotcom bust.

  28. It worked. by sabNetwork · · Score: 1

    My music collection went from mostly MP3 to mostly M4P. When I decided to get a portable jukebox, I was limited to the iPod. (Decoding DRM'd music hasn't become user-friendly enough to make that an option.)

    In the end, I'm very happy with my iPod, though. So I'm not complaining.
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  29. I'm a shoo-in for the PowerBook... by node+3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes!!! All my practice at getting first post on slashdot will finally pay off!

    Sorry to disappoint the rest of you, but that 100,000,000th song PowerBook prize is a good as mine!

    Oh, and FISRT POST!!!11!!1!!

    (losers!)

    1. Re:I'm a shoo-in for the PowerBook... by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 1
      All my practice at getting first post on slashdot will finally pay off!

      Yeah, too bad you were post 59!

    2. Re:I'm a shoo-in for the PowerBook... by node+3 · · Score: 1

      All my practice at getting first post on slashdot will finally pay off!

      Yeah, too bad you were post 59!

      Like I said, I'm a shoo-in!

      That PowerBook is as good as mine. As soon as Bill Gates sends me the money for forwarding his test e-mail out, I plan to purchase AppleCare for the PowerBook and maybe get an iTrip for the iPod.

      OHMYGOD! OHMYGOD! I CAN'T HARDLY WAIT!!!1!!!!!111

      Hurry people, start buying the next 5 million or so songs so I can get my new PowerBook soon. I've already ordered a developer's copy of Tiger and I want to try out that new Dashboard widget thingy as soon as possible!

    3. Re:I'm a shoo-in for the PowerBook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that is easy. He just buys a song when the counter shows 99,999,941.

  30. Cute story, BUT!... by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    This time the contest ASSUMES use of computers! And many people will be manually waiting for the number to reach certain level to press "Submit"... Why would not one to program his computer to give an audible buzz when it is time? ;-)

    Paul B.

    1. Re:Cute story, BUT!... by Flexagon · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about stuffing the entries through heavy automation, not simply using computers to make entries versus not using them. And I don't think there was anything wrong with the earlier automated entries either, but the merchant felt compelled to add prizes for public relations purposes nevertheless.

      There were also cases of stores caught throwing away hand-written entries while attempting to throw away automated entries that worsened the already bad public relations. Imagine the pummeling Apple could get, and the associated problems ordinary people will have trying to use the site (maybe even including lost transactions and lost money) during this giant DDoS "attack".

  31. Entering for Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    All you need to do to enter for free is use their "Tell A Friend" feature.

    How To Enter. You will automatically be entered into the Promotion by: 1) downloading a song from iTunes (any Free Download Single of the Week will be deemed an ineligible entry); or 2) a free alternative means of sending an email to Apple at itunes100@apple.com via the iTunes "Tell a Friend" feature (a song download or Tell a Friend email will be deemed an "Entry(ies"). The "Tell a Friend" feature can be easily accessed at iTunes by selecting a song, and clicking the "Tell a Friend" link that is displayed for that song. One Entry will be automatically submitted for each song downloaded or Tell a Friend email sent. The Promotion begins following the downloading of the 95,000,000th iTunes song, and ends with the downloading of the 100 millionth Entry ("End Date"). Only Entries submitted in this time period will be accepted.

  32. If you can't make the target bigger by norkakn · · Score: 1

    Than use bigger bullets!

    Why not have ten songs you want, that way you can cover a larger area when you buy. Sorta like finding a stack

  33. "Send in a 3"x5" index card.... by Vandil+X · · Score: 1

    ..with your Name, Address, and Telephone Number, along with a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:

    iTunes 100,000th Song Promo c/o Trash dumpster 1 Infinity Loop Cupertino, CA 95014"

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  34. No quite so easy after all... by xirtam_work · · Score: 1

    I've figured out what the kink in the trend is... it should have been obvious to me. It was the USA going to sleep. The sales slowed down when it was just the EU countries, UK, France & Germany left on their own. When the USA wakes up again the sales will accerlate back to their previous level again. When the EU goes to sleep the sales will slow down a little bit, but not as much as when the USA dropped out earlier. It's going to be interesting to chart this cycle overtime. Shame we can't get separate counters for each store becuase I'd be real interested as to when people are buying most in each country. I'd imagine that the most sales would happen in the evenings and at weekends because people are at work or school. So, as the EU are coming home from work/school the USA also wakes up and adds to the sales. When the EU goes to sleep the USA are coming home and will increase their sales as well.

  35. Re:beef curtains? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is is the same as "meat sheets" or "duck wings?" Gosh I hope so.

  36. No iTunes here by FatTonyDaAxeMan · · Score: 1

    Since Apple ignores Canada as an actual market, we don't have iTunes here. I can't win an iPod but I get my music free from P2P.

  37. What I'd like to know... by danalien · · Score: 1
    What I'd like to know, is exactly, how many consumers do they have?

    All this 'X songs / CDs /...<whateva> ' is just a bunch of "my dick is 0.01 cm longer then yours"-PR-sensationalism tricks. *Who buys such "crap"?*

    ... I mean, 100Milion 'songs' could be the equivilant purchases for 10 or 100 ppl what what all we know ..... *you get my drift? I hope*...

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  38. Who was the first? by rixstep · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know? Can anyone know? That would be a thing too,