Amen,
My wife took the hit in September, and was sending resumes to everybody on the face of the Earth. Ok, not that much, but was sending out hundreds. After 9 months she ended up getting a job as a clerk for a local drug store. She has like 20+ years in publishing, mostly electronic. She felt useless because she couldn't even get a waitress job. I kept trying to tell her that it's not her, it's the economy.
Echo this story for several of my neighbors. In Kansas City Gateway and Sprint are major employers. All the neighbors that I have talked to work for one of those two companies. If you have followed the news, both have made large cuts in personel. Unemployment has run out for a few, and they still don't have jobs. For sale signs are raising all over the place. My guess is that they weren't taking a breather between jobs either.
There will also be components that encrypt information as it moves from keyboard to computer (to prevent someone from wiretapping or altering what you type) and from computer to screen (to prevent someone from generating a phony output to your monitor that can trick you into OKing something you hadn't intended to).
i never realised this was a major concern for the average computer user. the funniest part is that they will probably taut(sp?) a wireless network, but won't encrypt the data over it. i have a wireless keyboard and mouse as i am sure most people do nowdays. it allows the data to be encrypted from the keyboard or mouse to the receiver. if someone wants my data that dang bad, they should just ask for it.
i also like the idea that ms will be in charge of our security and poss keep it on thier servers for saftey. what is more likely someone will try to hack my computer, or they will try to hack the ms security server. i would rather take the chance of a completely random hack attempt than give it to someplace i am sure someone will hack or at least attempt to.
"In ancient Troy stood the Palladium, a statue of the goddess Athena. Legend has it that the safety of the city depended on that icon's preservation."
am i the only one that thinks linking my product to the city of troy as stupid. HELLLOOOOOO. they got their butts kicked because they were dumb enough to let in a wooden horse.
unless this is not the real deal, this is the horse to distract us from the real project. hmmmmmmmmmm.............
from some of the articles that i have been reading it would also fubar the computers that would not have the ms software on it. if it is not running pallaladium (ok so i cant spell) then it will not be a trusted computer. if it is not a trusted computer then it wont talk to it. linux/unix/whatever will have to get the certification from ms to be heard by the windows computers. this will have to be added to the servers, and any changes to the code or hardware would void the certificate, so they would have to get a new one. this would effectively ruine any corporation that did not jump on the ms bandwagon. imho it is saying use ms or be farked.
if this comes into reality, it will be slow and uknown to the general public until it becomes to late. as with xp the oem manufactures forced all users to get xp. this has dragged several holdouts, myself included, into the xp realm.:( i also think this would get rid of the small comp shops or those that build their own puters. i think this becasue it sounds like the hardware and software are going to be merged, would this allow for do it yourselfers, my guess is no. if i wanted a dumbed down crapbox from an oem i would be doing it now. looks like it's linux with a puter to run games or a puter and a nintendo for me:(
i am not sure how we would or would not be together. i am sure if there is a problem, it would be on our side though. we as humans are a very strange animal. we hail that we are superior and more evolved than all other animals on this planet, yet we are still very close to our primate nature. we treat other humans horribly because of various prejudgices, and yet will thank a machine that does something for us.
i also agree. we need to know if it was thinking of escape/whatever, or was it just mere coincidence. i say we let it loose and see if it will do the same thing, but follow it. if it is intellegent, that would bring a lot of issues to the table (life/death). it could be mere coincidence, by itself, but if it does it multiple times, then there is an issue.
i agree, it would require further testing. i wonder how close robots come to actual intellagence. since it was taught, as any animal would be, who knows what it might have learned. i think it needs another chance to see if it escapes, or attempts it. if it does it more than once then it might actually be "alive".
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Amen, My wife took the hit in September, and was sending resumes to everybody on the face of the Earth. Ok, not that much, but was sending out hundreds. After 9 months she ended up getting a job as a clerk for a local drug store. She has like 20+ years in publishing, mostly electronic. She felt useless because she couldn't even get a waitress job. I kept trying to tell her that it's not her, it's the economy. Echo this story for several of my neighbors. In Kansas City Gateway and Sprint are major employers. All the neighbors that I have talked to work for one of those two companies. If you have followed the news, both have made large cuts in personel. Unemployment has run out for a few, and they still don't have jobs. For sale signs are raising all over the place. My guess is that they weren't taking a breather between jobs either.
umm speak for yourself, i'm indian :)
orwell appears to be right, but he was off by 20 years should have been "2004"
There will also be components that encrypt information as it moves from keyboard to computer (to prevent someone from wiretapping or altering what you type) and from computer to screen (to prevent someone from generating a phony output to your monitor that can trick you into OKing something you hadn't intended to).
i never realised this was a major concern for the average computer user. the funniest part is that they will probably taut(sp?) a wireless network, but won't encrypt the data over it. i have a wireless keyboard and mouse as i am sure most people do nowdays. it allows the data to be encrypted from the keyboard or mouse to the receiver. if someone wants my data that dang bad, they should just ask for it.
i also like the idea that ms will be in charge of our security and poss keep it on thier servers for saftey. what is more likely someone will try to hack my computer, or they will try to hack the ms security server. i would rather take the chance of a completely random hack attempt than give it to someplace i am sure someone will hack or at least attempt to.
"In ancient Troy stood the Palladium, a statue of the goddess Athena. Legend has it that the safety of the city depended on that icon's preservation."
am i the only one that thinks linking my product to the city of troy as stupid. HELLLOOOOOO. they got their butts kicked because they were dumb enough to let in a wooden horse.
unless this is not the real deal, this is the horse to distract us from the real project. hmmmmmmmmmm.............
from some of the articles that i have been reading it would also fubar the computers that would not have the ms software on it. if it is not running pallaladium (ok so i cant spell) then it will not be a trusted computer. if it is not a trusted computer then it wont talk to it. linux/unix/whatever will have to get the certification from ms to be heard by the windows computers. this will have to be added to the servers, and any changes to the code or hardware would void the certificate, so they would have to get a new one. this would effectively ruine any corporation that did not jump on the ms bandwagon. imho it is saying use ms or be farked. if this comes into reality, it will be slow and uknown to the general public until it becomes to late. as with xp the oem manufactures forced all users to get xp. this has dragged several holdouts, myself included, into the xp realm. :( i also think this would get rid of the small comp shops or those that build their own puters. i think this becasue it sounds like the hardware and software are going to be merged, would this allow for do it yourselfers, my guess is no. if i wanted a dumbed down crapbox from an oem i would be doing it now. looks like it's linux with a puter to run games or a puter and a nintendo for me :(
i am not sure how we would or would not be together. i am sure if there is a problem, it would be on our side though. we as humans are a very strange animal. we hail that we are superior and more evolved than all other animals on this planet, yet we are still very close to our primate nature. we treat other humans horribly because of various prejudgices, and yet will thank a machine that does something for us.
i also agree. we need to know if it was thinking of escape/whatever, or was it just mere coincidence. i say we let it loose and see if it will do the same thing, but follow it. if it is intellegent, that would bring a lot of issues to the table (life/death). it could be mere coincidence, by itself, but if it does it multiple times, then there is an issue.
i agree, it would require further testing. i wonder how close robots come to actual intellagence. since it was taught, as any animal would be, who knows what it might have learned. i think it needs another chance to see if it escapes, or attempts it. if it does it more than once then it might actually be "alive".