You're right. That's what I get for not reading the whole thing before posting. The Wired article mentioned the $300,000 price tag and didn't mention the punitive aspect until a later page.
I'm not too conversant with all the states relevent laws but, sadly, I think California is probably the most aggressive in that regard (though mightily mis-guided in some energy related areas).
I admire Scotland and others for their proactive approach, I just hope that it is enough. The overwhelming problem is convincing the population at large that there really is a problem approaching (more quickly that most realize).
That's why my sig promotes a discussion forum that's focused on Alt/Renewable energy. It's amazing how many newbies who just stop by to see what's up wind up building their own RE systems (limited as some of them may be) in just a short while. Even better, they do a great job of spreading the interest/infection to others around them.
We need to raise public awareness of the folly of long term fossil fuel dependence and sway the opinions and actions of the people we put in power.
the admin narrating the story said the perp looked to be black (or is the word African-American these days?), roughly 30, with an accent which seemed half London and half African
Uh, I don't think the term 'American' should be applied to a guy with a half London and half African accent who's currently in Ireland. I just don't see the connection.
I'm being modbombed for my opinions. Check my posting history.
OK, I checked your posting history. I saw Trolls, Flamebaits, Off Topic and so on. Every one of them well deserved with the possible exception of one which was probably considered a little too pro-Microsoft for this crowd. Even that was delivered in a tone I would consider baiting flames.
So, if you consider your karma valuable enough to complain in your sig about being modbombed, simply state your opinion in a (1) non-inflammatory fashion and (2) on topic. If you follow those two principles, you'll be OK.
A refreshing beverage may help as well.
BTW, this comment is completely off-topic and I fully accept any karmic repercusions.
OK, I'll see your more high speed trains in the US and raise you a whole lot more plain, ordinary passenger (or even a few more freight) trains first.
It's seems ironic that one of the nations that brought rail travel to the world is now one of the least railed now. We may very well revert/advance to railed systems in the future, but it will only be after serious economical and social changes have taken place... which assumes the demise of the automobile and its associated freedoms as we know and love it now. I'm not holding my breath (except when I'm in the big, smoggy cities).
I contend that if you've planned your design reasonably well, you will know what is necessary and what's not. Furthermore, after weighing the costs and potential benefits, you can successfully decide what 'overgeneralization', if any, is acceptable or desirable and limit the costs to something not too painful.
And sometimes you can go fishing... I'm working on a project right now (er, when I'm not posting on/.) where we're using an instrument that provides a canned measurement that meets the customer's requirements. We saw a way we could integrate that device deeply into our system and, with high speed data acquisition and signal analysis, we could squeeze data out of it that no one has utilized to date. We did this and wrote enough code to demonstrate the possibilities to our customer (real paying customer, not an XP 'customer'). We showed them our preliminary system today and they were impressed. If they can budget to expand this aspect of the project, they will do it.
That is an example of good use of planning and design. Know what you're willing to lose for a potential gain. I'm not a design nazi, but I firmly believe in having a very good plan and at least a skeleton design before you start coding more than the lightest demo.
I've seen the same progression in my 18 or so years of coding experience, but to this
Sure I write way better code, but it also takes me a lot longer.
my experience disagrees. In my earlier career, I'd often blast out something that showed good signs of progress but had to have major redesign/recoding before the product could fulfill the requirements. I think my overall productivity is now much improved through forethought and consideration of design (though obviously some of the improvements come from the brute force of experience).
I think XP is partially inspired by a desire to recapture that youthful productivity
You may have something there. My disipline is the result of years at the 'school of hard knocks' and when you're busy getting 'hard knocks' you're not being used as efficiently right now as you could be. Some students never graduate from that school, so I think all coders can benefit from a structured methodology, the lesser experienced most of all. I just feel uncomfortable with what I see as an overzealous streak in this burdensome system (XP).
The negative thoughts that many/.ers have for Microsoft in general and their top men in specific, Both Gates and Allen have long been active philanthropists. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation benefits "global health and learning" (directed by Bill Gates' father).
As mentioned in the story, Paul Allen has been a SETI supportor and funded the ATA.
I like to think that if I commanded that sort of wealth I would be as generous (as long as I'm dreaming, I'd be *more* generous).
Reread my first sentence. It was meant to be a joke, though I'll admit it was more than a little humor-impaired. Facetious maybe, but not goddamn facetious. I didn't bother commenting in that prior article, having dismissed it as an obscure research project not likely to amount to anything.
Reread my main point. It presumes IP6 is the next step in a logical progression and hints that marketing forces are the prime obstacle to adoption.
Relax; enjoy a refreshing beverage. No one is impuning or supplanting IPv6.
throw a wrench in the spoke of the DoD's plan for a new, newer IP?
Seriously, I think it'll be good. Might throw some weight against the stone wall that's holding back the US and rollout of IPv6 in general. I'd imagine that with such largescale rollouts the hardware will get cheaper and will help drive adoption worldwide.
in implying the the customers at large wish to hack products. We (yes, I'm including myself) are a minority, though numerous.
Where the average customer can win is through the end products of hacking. Third party ring tones and games, etc for cell phones are passe now. So are "performance chips" for engine control modules. Third party hacks and add-ons for other embedded systems, like PVRs are here or on the way. In one way or another, all of these are the result of 'hacking' and have direct benefit for the non-hackers.
that with the negative backlash, some legal, that has occured against blacklist maintainters of all sorts (causing the SPEWS mainttainers to go anon), the fine people at NANOG will be smart enough to leave it alone. Not to say that some motivated members might not do it, but NANOG ain'ta gonna touch it.
but with the prevalence of viruses and spam factory trojans contracted via the inboxes of lusers, this may be a case of lesser of two evils. *If I can disable it* then I don't mind.
Well, Clif, you obviously knew or expected this to become highly public, so do you have your legal defense plan in place already? Indications are the EFF won't be on your side.
DO you also have a backup plan for internet connectivity? I suspect RoadRunner will pull your plug pretty soon after the first few hundred LARTs regarding your 'experiment'.
walktheplank.ath.cx resolves to 24.31.106.207 AKA gso31-106-207.triad.rr.com. The domain is reg'd to Clifton Griffin. www.clifgriffin.com also resolves to the same IP.
Cliffy baby, hope your lawyer is good, cause I bet the EFF won't take your case.
I'm not what sort of settlement terms they were discussing, but for Microsoft to allow it to end with no real conclusion sounds like a bad move for them... however, they must have some kind of backup plan. I have no idea what it might be, because this isn't like the situation here in the US where they can keep things tied up in court forever.
Maybe fines and new versions of OS's is OK with them. Hm.
One more item, while browsing their discussion forums, I found this apropos exchange from Sept, 2003:
I have a number of video clips that are being served via freecache from my site at: http://holden.customer.netspace.net.au/rocket cam.h tml
The site was slashdotted on Saturday. I would like apologise for the additional burden this placed on freecache and any reduction in service levels that occured as a result.
I would be interested in learning more about how the system coped with this event.
Regards, Mike
In reply:
Mike, There is no need to apologize for using FreeCache. Your case is exactly why build this system.
And then:
There were 20,000 hits in 24 hours, and plenty of discussion in the Slashdot forums regarding slow downloads - which is to be expected with such a high demand. I found the Status pages were taking much longer to generate than normal.
Slashdot Mirror
You're right. That's what I get for not reading the whole thing before posting. The Wired article mentioned the $300,000 price tag and didn't mention the punitive aspect until a later page.
Actually, he might have been all right with the Times if he hadn't run up a $300,000 bill using their access to Lexis-Nexis.
I'm not too conversant with all the states relevent laws but, sadly, I think California is probably the most aggressive in that regard (though mightily mis-guided in some energy related areas).
I admire Scotland and others for their proactive approach, I just hope that it is enough. The overwhelming problem is convincing the population at large that there really is a problem approaching (more quickly that most realize).
That's why my sig promotes a discussion forum that's focused on Alt/Renewable energy. It's amazing how many newbies who just stop by to see what's up wind up building their own RE systems (limited as some of them may be) in just a short while. Even better, they do a great job of spreading the interest/infection to others around them.
We need to raise public awareness of the folly of long term fossil fuel dependence and sway the opinions and actions of the people we put in power.
Look again. 2.5V, 3906 W/kg, 20A rated.
And look at this one, 2,600 Farads, 2.5V, 600A rated (not a D cell package though).
Hmm, they may have some competition on the speedy recharge front, Moore improvements yet?
350 F, 2.5 V UltraCapacitors in D cell size from Maxwell Technologies.
analog computers of old. IIRC they were used for ballistics calculations and similar by the military.
Here is an example.
Look into what kind of mathematical operations can be realized with multiplying DACs.
the admin narrating the story said the perp looked to be black (or is the word
African-American these days?), roughly 30, with an accent which seemed
half London and half African
Uh, I don't think the term 'American' should be applied to a guy with a half London and half African accent who's currently in Ireland. I just don't see the connection.
I'm being modbombed for my opinions. Check my posting history.
OK, I checked your posting history. I saw Trolls, Flamebaits, Off Topic and so on. Every one of them well deserved with the possible exception of one which was probably considered a little too pro-Microsoft for this crowd. Even that was delivered in a tone I would consider baiting flames.
So, if you consider your karma valuable enough to complain in your sig about being modbombed, simply state your opinion in a (1) non-inflammatory fashion and (2) on topic. If you follow those two principles, you'll be OK.
A refreshing beverage may help as well.
BTW, this comment is completely off-topic and I fully accept any karmic repercusions.
OK, I'll see your more high speed trains in the US and raise you a whole lot more plain, ordinary passenger (or even a few more freight) trains first.
It's seems ironic that one of the nations that brought rail travel to the world is now one of the least railed now. We may very well revert/advance to railed systems in the future, but it will only be after serious economical and social changes have taken place... which assumes the demise of the automobile and its associated freedoms as we know and love it now. I'm not holding my breath (except when I'm in the big, smoggy cities).
I contend that if you've planned your design reasonably well, you will know what is necessary and what's not. Furthermore, after weighing the costs and potential benefits, you can successfully decide what 'overgeneralization', if any, is acceptable or desirable and limit the costs to something not too painful.
/.) where we're using an instrument that provides a canned measurement that meets the customer's requirements. We saw a way we could integrate that device deeply into our system and, with high speed data acquisition and signal analysis, we could squeeze data out of it that no one has utilized to date. We did this and wrote enough code to demonstrate the possibilities to our customer (real paying customer, not an XP 'customer'). We showed them our preliminary system today and they were impressed. If they can budget to expand this aspect of the project, they will do it.
And sometimes you can go fishing... I'm working on a project right now (er, when I'm not posting on
That is an example of good use of planning and design. Know what you're willing to lose for a potential gain. I'm not a design nazi, but I firmly believe in having a very good plan and at least a skeleton design before you start coding more than the lightest demo.
I've seen the same progression in my 18 or so years of coding experience, but to this
Sure I write way better code, but it also takes me a lot longer.
my experience disagrees. In my earlier career, I'd often blast out something that showed good signs of progress but had to have major redesign/recoding before the product could fulfill the requirements. I think my overall productivity is now much improved through forethought and consideration of design (though obviously some of the improvements come from the brute force of experience).
I think XP is partially inspired by a desire to recapture that youthful productivity
You may have something there. My disipline is the result of years at the 'school of hard knocks' and when you're busy getting 'hard knocks' you're not being used as efficiently right now as you could be. Some students never graduate from that school, so I think all coders can benefit from a structured methodology, the lesser experienced most of all. I just feel uncomfortable with what I see as an overzealous streak in this burdensome system (XP).
The negative thoughts that many /.ers have for Microsoft in general and their top men in specific, Both Gates and Allen have long been active philanthropists. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation benefits "global health and learning" (directed by Bill Gates' father).
As mentioned in the story, Paul Allen has been a SETI supportor and funded the ATA.
I like to think that if I commanded that sort of wealth I would be as generous (as long as I'm dreaming, I'd be *more* generous).
Reread my first sentence. It was meant to be a joke, though I'll admit it was more than a little humor-impaired. Facetious maybe, but not goddamn facetious. I didn't bother commenting in that prior article, having dismissed it as an obscure research project not likely to amount to anything.
Reread my main point. It presumes IP6 is the next step in a logical progression and hints that marketing forces are the prime obstacle to adoption.
Relax; enjoy a refreshing beverage. No one is impuning or supplanting IPv6.
throw a wrench in the spoke of the DoD's plan for a new, newer IP?
Seriously, I think it'll be good. Might throw some weight against the stone wall that's holding back the US and rollout of IPv6 in general. I'd imagine that with such largescale rollouts the hardware will get cheaper and will help drive adoption worldwide.
in implying the the customers at large wish to hack products. We (yes, I'm including myself) are a minority, though numerous.
Where the average customer can win is through the end products of hacking. Third party ring tones and games, etc for cell phones are passe now. So are "performance chips" for engine control modules. Third party hacks and add-ons for other embedded systems, like PVRs are here or on the way. In one way or another, all of these are the result of 'hacking' and have direct benefit for the non-hackers.
that with the negative backlash, some legal, that has occured against blacklist maintainters of all sorts (causing the SPEWS mainttainers to go anon), the fine people at NANOG will be smart enough to leave it alone. Not to say that some motivated members might not do it, but NANOG ain'ta gonna touch it.
but with the prevalence of viruses and spam factory trojans contracted via the inboxes of lusers, this may be a case of lesser of two evils. *If I can disable it* then I don't mind.
Well, Clif, you obviously knew or expected this to become highly public, so do you have your legal defense plan in place already? Indications are the EFF won't be on your side.
DO you also have a backup plan for internet connectivity? I suspect RoadRunner will pull your plug pretty soon after the first few hundred LARTs regarding your 'experiment'.
Wow!
As the AC said (why's he modded troll?)
walktheplank.ath.cx resolves to 24.31.106.207 AKA gso31-106-207.triad.rr.com. The domain is reg'd to Clifton Griffin. www.clifgriffin.com also resolves to the same IP.
Cliffy baby, hope your lawyer is good, cause I bet the EFF won't take your case.
This image is from March 11, same day as Slashdot article about the image of the earth as seen from Mars.
March 11
I'm all in favor of a new movie remake; not so sure Tom Cruise should be in it. Oh, well.
You might think it odd, until you hear it, but I really enjoy listening to Jeff Wayne's Musical War of the Worlds
Richard Burton did the first person narration and members of the Moody Blues performed a lot of the music. Very good.
I'm not what sort of settlement terms they were discussing, but for Microsoft to allow it to end with no real conclusion sounds like a bad move for them... however, they must have some kind of backup plan. I have no idea what it might be, because this isn't like the situation here in the US where they can keep things tied up in court forever.
Maybe fines and new versions of OS's is OK with them. Hm.
Thanks, looks like your second link, 802.11 Security is the one I might want.
Has anyone here read it yet? The reviews are mixed, some saying it's to cursory.
A definitive and practical guide to implementing a very secure WiFi LAN so I can convince my boss to cut the wire.
It doesn't sound like this is it, or is it?
One more item, while browsing their discussion forums, I found this apropos exchange from Sept, 2003:
t cam.h tml
I have a number of video clips that are being served via freecache from my site at:
http://holden.customer.netspace.net.au/rocke
The site was slashdotted on Saturday. I would like apologise for the additional burden this placed on freecache and any reduction in service levels that occured as a result.
I would be interested in learning more about how the system coped with this event.
Regards,
Mike
In reply:
Mike,
There is no need to apologize for using FreeCache. Your case is exactly why build this system.
And then:
There were 20,000 hits in 24 hours, and plenty of discussion in the Slashdot forums regarding slow downloads - which is to be expected with such a high demand. I found the Status pages were taking much longer to generate than normal.
So it's better, but not perfect.