Just because the USA desides to restrict it does not mean that it will automagicly delete it self from all the servers outside the USA.
It's what happens when our (I'm American) leaders are crackbabies. No offense to the intelligent crackbabies intended, I know there are some. Just not in US GOV.
a well designed NT box is faster and more stable than Linux
There is no such animal. Ask any sysadmin.
You can argue personal experience all you want, but all that means is that you don't know how to build an NT box.
Bah. That's all. Just 'Bah.'
If you bothered to look at the white papers, you may have seen some very promising features.
As for those whitepapers, I got some whitepapers in my bathroom too, and they are good for about the same thing as yours.
If you cared about anything other than Linux propoganda
Gee, never seen propaganda before. Any of the crap benchmarks (linux OR windows) mean a total of shit to me until I can see if it does that on my machine. Linux has lived up to (and exceeded) what I expected from it. Windows has been a disappointment from the beginning.
I am currently an IT student
I have heard around that an IT Student is nothing more than a buzzword for some person that goes to school to learn even more buzzwords.
Get a life. Windows has always sucked. It always will. I've used it since it's first incarnation and IN MY EXPERIENCE *snicker* it really sucks some royal ass.
Ahh.. I see.:) Always interesting to hear about people's setups like that... It seems that yours, as-is, will be a royal pain in the ass to someone in the future however. But then that's *their* problem isn't it?;)
The circuit to this building does not go through your fuse/breaker box then? It at no time has a circuit within your house? (I know, dumb question, how else would the firecracker work)
But I was thinking that it was an attached building, which does change it somewhat. Cost of enough wire to make the circuit for a physical switch might be more than the other.. *shrug* Depends on your setup.
Even if/. was given a kickback, so what? There are a lot of us who think that this sort of thing is cool.
Free is best (in all senses), but the world works on cash unfortunately. To attack someone for making money for those purposes shows a distinct lack of class.. I think that other guy oughtta be strung up by his shorthairs. *ouch*
Just because you're poor, or boring, or just plain paranoid, doesn't mean that the rest of we readers are, so bugger off and go back under your rock
You have to make damn sure it doesn't double as a credit card. When you ask for the thing, make sure to specify that you do not want a credit card at all, just so they know. I've heard of people getting check cards that were credit cards too, not sure how that worked but it really messed them up..
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ROFL I'm guessing you don't have much respect for the dumb shit then eh?:) Very interesting reading there, especially if the bumper sticker bit is true. *rofl*
Umm.. I disagree completely. Humans are most certainly NOT political by nature. I could give a flying fuck less about politics frankly. And I'm not the only one. I find politics and politicking to be repugnant. And I feel that the world would be a better place without them. But as for an adequate replacement I don't know so I'm stuck with that bullshit as are you and everyone else. Politics sucks.:(
The entire Linux community is communist-like. We all share our goods!
Yes, and the "Linux Community" gets lots of heat for it too. It's an attempt (not without success) at a meld of Communism and Democracy with a smidgeon of Capitalism (having your name on a product you make, example: not all the programs in a Linux distro are named Linux. There's Apache for instance.).
Someone should put up a nice set of pages on this with an in-depth explaination and breakdown of it so everyone can read up on it. Oh, and it has to be NON BIASED if such a thing is possible..
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if they decide to 'make an example' of you like they did to kevin mitnick
I've always wanted to know (sort of).. who in the HELL is this guy? And why should I care about him/her/it?
Remind me to call an attorney next time I can't get the GIMP, or that copy of Applix for Linux I paid good money for, to run on Windows 98.
If you bought something for Linux, which is *NOT* DOS (though it is a DOS if you wanna get technical, but you know what it means), and try to make it run on Windows.. then you should have your computer taken away quite frankly.
BTW my handle at the moment happens to be "Shadowcaster" too. So please change yours to Hobbitboy or one of your other fuzzy little handles.
*sigh* Yet another AC doing this.. Congradulations. We like the same name. Woohoo. Big fat hairy deal. First come first serve right? Why don't you change your name to Silence? It'll be so much more pleasant.
Don't post something meaningless pleasze, and at least attempt to think out a post if you insist on doing it ok?
Instead of blowing off the questioning of your totally abiquous comment of "That would be bad" --which, btw can be taken as a threat if you read it with the understanding that you're implying you'll make bad things happen--why don't you attempt to clarify your statement so we can understand you thinking?
I'll make bad things happen?? Gee thanks for that. It makes me feel so loved.:P
I left it open to your own perception yes, but with the assumption that a little reason would come into play. Why on earth (or mars or venus or mercury or..) would I want to bring harm on anyone? That is not my way. And I'd thank you to give me the benefit of the doubt on that without my having to SAY as much next time.
That is assuming, of course, that you actually have a coherent thought behind that statement.
I did, but no longer have the desire to share my thoughts in this thread. I believe you'll understand if I no longer reply any of this.
If, as we all supposedly know, Microsoft did it, then the evidence will be present in copies of Win 3 1 that shipped here in the U.S. Caldera shouldn't need to look at beta versions (which lots of companies, not just Microsoft, often restrict to particular environments) to prove their point.
Actually they would. Ever seen source code for an actual release verson of Win? Didn't think so.
If Caldera has a point, they make it with a U.S. version that actually shipped to someone in the jurisdiction they are suing in. If they don't have a point and are just gold-digging, well, I for one won't be surprised.
I can go buy a copy of something US, overseas version (pick a country). If it eats my HD and there's no disclaimer against that I can sue them, and rest assured I would. Point is anything can be had by anyone, don't set limits on your perspective there.
Besides, why should MS be required to make their product run on multiple operating systems?
Because that's what software does...
Can Apple sue everyone who makes a Windows program that doesn't run on MacOS?
Come on, how does that fit into anything? Mac's are a whole different beast. You know that. Or at least you should...
This whole case is whack!
Sing it brother! Get down with your funky self! Dork.
It may be old but there are possibilities there. Even if it is only for kicks and doesn't develop into anything truly useful it'd be fun to play around with.
Warning: This site loads slow for me, try not to slashdot it. Or ideally post a mirror if you get through to it for everyone else to spam instead.:)
Pardon me while I look up and down a couple times and blink at the person who yells at another person for remaining anonymous and then praises anonymity.
Finally a good arguement..:) You got me on that one. And I haven't a choice but to admit it. Which I happily do, and here's why: I am making the attempt to be known. I don't post AC. I never have, nor will I. Since I have been using this handle for years, you can find other things I have posted here, and know it's me doing it, even if you don't know the actual person doing the typing. AC's who post like that guy did are only doing so because they can be AC. The concept of anonymity (of their kind) is good, but the effects of it are most certainly not in most cases. We end up with flames from idiots who would normally stay shuttered up in their dark room whining to their parents. I think AC is only truly useful for someone with a good post, who cannot for whatever reason login and/or create an account. The rest are just rubbish which I am guilty of perpetuating in responding to. The topic *DEMANDED* a response in this case however. Read this thread through, I'm sure everyone who truly isn't a bigot will agree that flaming a whole country is not necessary and deserving of an appropriately inappropriate response.:)
You don't think it would be a good thing if the evidence was thrown out of court. Well, isn't that just the epitomy of a useless conribution to this discussion! Just what do you mean by that very empty threat?
Umm.. if you see a threat in my post you need some serious help pal.. serious help. Next time you go to type something goofy like that, put on hockey gloves first. Your typing will make more sense.
Records are kept of court proceedings. The various Microsoft cases will fill up volumes of very expensive legal texts. Lexis-Nexis will have the whole thing on CD-ROM and will sell access to it for ridiculously high prices...
Well, I haven't a clue who this Lexis-whatever is but you made my point. Thank you. We need our OWN copies of all of this, not someone else's.
If the two versions of 3.1x were attempted to be submitted as evidence after the discovery phase then Microsoft has every right to request that the court deny their submission.
And what happens when that precedent is set concrete huh? MS will request, and undoubtedly GET, many important and relevant things thrown out. Don't discount the (distinct) possibility. I don't put anything past the Beast anymore (gov or ms, they're both bastards).
Take that all you nay-sayers! You think Microsoft is the best thing since sliced bread? Look at the crap they pull! If this is thrown out of court.. I don't think it would be good, put it that way.
We should keep records of all of this too, all the MS litigation, *factual( (ie no conjecture) records of their tactics, etc.. would make for good comparison to what Linux is all about.
They've been doing this since the later DOS versions...
At this time, Microsoft Research has no plans to support this experimental stack on Windows 95 or Windows 98.
So any newer tech will not work on their just-previous release of the OS. Unless a 3rd party makes it work. In which case you've 'invalidated the warantee' or whatever, and if you're a clueless newbie (you know who you are:P ) who needs to call MS for support you're basically fucked.
The site doesn't look MSish which is good.. but they handle themselves just the same, wether they release a buggy proprietary code or not.
you know what they say, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Well thought out piece of work, though I feel it could have been expanded upon somewhat more, if just a little bit.. *shrug*
Do we have a public repository for articles like this btw? It would be nice to look back 5 years from now at all the crap Free Speech had to go through relative to open source and the real ideaology of the network..
Just because the USA desides to restrict it does not mean that it will automagicly delete it self from all the servers outside the USA.
It's what happens when our (I'm American) leaders are crackbabies. No offense to the intelligent crackbabies intended, I know there are some. Just not in US GOV.
ROFL
ROFL
ROFL
ROFL
a well designed NT box is faster and more stable than Linux
There is no such animal. Ask any sysadmin.
You can argue personal experience all you want, but all that means is that you don't know how to build an NT box.
Bah. That's all. Just 'Bah.'
If you bothered to look at the white papers, you may have seen some very promising features.
As for those whitepapers, I got some whitepapers in my bathroom too, and they are good for about the same thing as yours.
If you cared about anything other than Linux propoganda
Gee, never seen propaganda before. Any of the crap benchmarks (linux OR windows) mean a total of shit to me until I can see if it does that on my machine. Linux has lived up to (and exceeded) what I expected from it. Windows has been a disappointment from the beginning.
I am currently an IT student
I have heard around that an IT Student is nothing more than a buzzword for some person that goes to school to learn even more buzzwords.
Get a life. Windows has always sucked. It always will. I've used it since it's first incarnation and IN MY EXPERIENCE *snicker* it really sucks some royal ass.
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!
The sad thing is, there's probably a million others like it that *AREN'T* intentionally humorous.
Just from looking at the main page he looks pretty serious to me.. call the paddywagon!
Ahh.. I see. :) ;)
Always interesting to hear about people's setups like that...
It seems that yours, as-is, will be a royal pain in the ass to someone in the future however. But then that's *their* problem isn't it?
The circuit to this building does not go through your fuse/breaker box then? It at no time has a circuit within your house? (I know, dumb question, how else would the firecracker work)
But I was thinking that it was an attached building, which does change it somewhat. Cost of enough wire to make the circuit for a physical switch might be more than the other.. *shrug*
Depends on your setup.
Paid, huh? Ok, fruitcake, where is your proof?
/. was given a kickback, so what? There are a lot of us who think that this sort of thing is cool.
ROFL Sic em!
Even if
Free is best (in all senses), but the world works on cash unfortunately. To attack someone for making money for those purposes shows a distinct lack of class.. I think that other guy oughtta be strung up by his shorthairs. *ouch*
Just because you're poor, or boring, or just plain paranoid, doesn't mean that the rest of we readers are, so bugger off and go back under your rock
ROFL ROFL ROFL
You have to make damn sure it doesn't double as a credit card. When you ask for the thing, make sure to specify that you do not want a credit card at all, just so they know. I've heard of people getting check cards that were credit cards too, not sure how that worked but it really messed them up..
I have a out building with flood lights for security. But had to walk outside to turn them on and off.
Just curious.. why didn't you buy a 89cent light switch, a 49cent box, and a 12cent faceplate and just wire it to inside the door?
Personally I'd rathar have spent the buck and a half on a physical switch than 6 on a firecracker in that instance.
The question is, why on earth did you initially register the .NET when the .COM was still available at the time?
(s)he was prolly trying to use naming how it was supposed to be from the start. '.com' for companies, '.org' for organizations, etc etc.
The REAL question is, why are you promoting otherwise??
No, it wasn't.
ROFL :)
I'm guessing you don't have much respect for the dumb shit then eh?
Very interesting reading there, especially if the bumper sticker bit is true. *rofl*
rofl
So, does Micros~1 contact you for their 'online documentation' efforts *ahem* in their newer softwares?
duh, humans are political animals!
:(
Umm.. I disagree completely. Humans are most certainly NOT political by nature. I could give a flying fuck less about politics frankly. And I'm not the only one. I find politics and politicking to be repugnant. And I feel that the world would be a better place without them. But as for an adequate replacement I don't know so I'm stuck with that bullshit as are you and everyone else.
Politics sucks.
The entire Linux community is communist-like. We all share our goods!
Yes, and the "Linux Community" gets lots of heat for it too. It's an attempt (not without success) at a meld of Communism and Democracy with a smidgeon of Capitalism (having your name on a product you make, example: not all the programs in a Linux distro are named Linux. There's Apache for instance.).
Someone should put up a nice set of pages on this with an in-depth explaination and breakdown of it so everyone can read up on it. Oh, and it has to be NON BIASED if such a thing is possible..
if they decide to 'make an example' of you like they did to kevin mitnick
I've always wanted to know (sort of).. who in the HELL is this guy?
And why should I care about him/her/it?
Remind me to call an attorney next time I can't get the GIMP, or that copy of Applix for Linux I paid good money for, to run on Windows 98.
If you bought something for Linux, which is *NOT* DOS (though it is a DOS if you wanna get technical, but you know what it means), and try to make it run on Windows.. then you should have your computer taken away quite frankly.
BTW my handle at the moment happens to be "Shadowcaster" too. So please change yours to Hobbitboy or one of your other fuzzy little handles.
*sigh* Yet another AC doing this..
Congradulations. We like the same name. Woohoo. Big fat hairy deal. First come first serve right?
Why don't you change your name to Silence? It'll be so much more pleasant.
Don't post something meaningless pleasze, and at least attempt to think out a post if you insist on doing it ok?
Instead of blowing off the questioning of your totally abiquous comment of "That would be bad" --which, btw can be taken as a threat if you read it with the understanding that you're implying you'll make bad things happen--why don't you attempt to clarify your statement so we can understand you thinking?
:P
I'll make bad things happen?? Gee thanks for that. It makes me feel so loved.
I left it open to your own perception yes, but with the assumption that a little reason would come into play. Why on earth (or mars or venus or mercury or..) would I want to bring harm on anyone? That is not my way. And I'd thank you to give me the benefit of the doubt on that without my having to SAY as much next time.
That is assuming, of course, that you actually have a coherent thought behind that statement.
I did, but no longer have the desire to share my thoughts in this thread. I believe you'll understand if I no longer reply any of this.
If, as we all supposedly know, Microsoft did it, then the evidence will be present in copies of Win 3 1 that shipped here in the U.S. Caldera shouldn't need to look at beta versions (which lots of companies, not just Microsoft, often restrict to particular environments) to prove their point.
Actually they would. Ever seen source code for an actual release verson of Win? Didn't think so.
If Caldera has a point, they make it with a U.S. version that actually shipped to someone in the jurisdiction they are suing in. If they don't have a point and are just gold-digging, well, I for one won't be surprised.
I can go buy a copy of something US, overseas version (pick a country). If it eats my HD and there's no disclaimer against that I can sue them, and rest assured I would. Point is anything can be had by anyone, don't set limits on your perspective there.
Besides, why should MS be required to make their product run on multiple operating systems?
Because that's what software does...
Can Apple sue everyone who makes a Windows program that doesn't run on MacOS?
Come on, how does that fit into anything? Mac's are a whole different beast. You know that. Or at least you should...
This whole case is whack!
Sing it brother! Get down with your funky self! Dork.
It could be tho.. Check this out.
:)
Gem World
It may be old but there are possibilities there. Even if it is only for kicks and doesn't develop into anything truly useful it'd be fun to play around with.
Warning: This site loads slow for me, try not to slashdot it. Or ideally post a mirror if you get through to it for everyone else to spam instead.
Pardon me while I look up and down a couple times and blink at the person who yells at another person for remaining anonymous and then praises anonymity.
:) :)
Finally a good arguement..
You got me on that one. And I haven't a choice but to admit it. Which I happily do, and here's why:
I am making the attempt to be known.
I don't post AC. I never have, nor will I.
Since I have been using this handle for years, you can find other things I have posted here, and know it's me doing it, even if you don't know the actual person doing the typing.
AC's who post like that guy did are only doing so because they can be AC. The concept of anonymity (of their kind) is good, but the effects of it are most certainly not in most cases. We end up with flames from idiots who would normally stay shuttered up in their dark room whining to their parents. I think AC is only truly useful for someone with a good post, who cannot for whatever reason login and/or create an account. The rest are just rubbish which I am guilty of perpetuating in responding to. The topic *DEMANDED* a response in this case however. Read this thread through, I'm sure everyone who truly isn't a bigot will agree that flaming a whole country is not necessary and deserving of an appropriately inappropriate response.
You don't think it would be a good thing if the evidence was thrown out of court. Well, isn't that just the epitomy of a useless conribution to this discussion! Just what do you mean by that very empty threat?
Umm.. if you see a threat in my post you need some serious help pal.. serious help. Next time you go to type something goofy like that, put on hockey gloves first. Your typing will make more sense.
Records are kept of court proceedings. The various Microsoft cases will fill up volumes of very expensive legal texts. Lexis-Nexis will have the whole thing on CD-ROM and will sell access to it for ridiculously high prices...
Well, I haven't a clue who this Lexis-whatever is but you made my point. Thank you. We need our OWN copies of all of this, not someone else's.
If the two versions of 3.1x were attempted to be submitted as evidence after the discovery phase then Microsoft has every right to request that the court deny their submission.
And what happens when that precedent is set concrete huh? MS will request, and undoubtedly GET, many important and relevant things thrown out. Don't discount the (distinct) possibility. I don't put anything past the Beast anymore (gov or ms, they're both bastards).
Take that all you nay-sayers! You think Microsoft is the best thing since sliced bread? Look at the crap they pull!
If this is thrown out of court.. I don't think it would be good, put it that way.
We should keep records of all of this too, all the MS litigation, *factual( (ie no conjecture) records of their tactics, etc.. would make for good comparison to what Linux is all about.
They've been doing this since the later DOS versions...
:P ) who needs to call MS for support you're basically fucked.
At this time, Microsoft Research has no plans to support this experimental stack on Windows 95 or Windows 98.
So any newer tech will not work on their just-previous release of the OS. Unless a 3rd party makes it work. In which case you've 'invalidated the warantee' or whatever, and if you're a clueless newbie (you know who you are
The site doesn't look MSish which is good.. but they handle themselves just the same, wether they release a buggy proprietary code or not.
you know what they say, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
Well thought out piece of work, though I feel it could have been expanded upon somewhat more, if just a little bit.. *shrug*
:)
Do we have a public repository for articles like this btw? It would be nice to look back 5 years from now at all the crap Free Speech had to go through relative to open source and the real ideaology of the network..
I refuse to say 'first post'.
Oh, whoopsie.