I was on ritalin too, however, I was young, on an eye-popping dosage. They were cramming 100mg a day down my mouth at age 10-12. And at that level, I find it particularly incapacitating. I don't really see why... I wasn't hyperactive... I suppose ADHD is the most over-diagnosed condition among kids.
Yea, it is overdiagnosed. In fact, that is an understatement. I was just on 2 20mg SR pills at the max (prescribed, I snorted massive dosages tho.. never exceeding 240mg a day tho, you think caffiene jitters are bad do it once!!! 240mg was over a full 24 hour period btw, no sleep)
I'd take my dose in the morning, and within an hour later I'd be in a cold sweat. Barely able to read or carry on a stable conversation and just shell shocked into meek cooperation with my teachers. I'd get a gnawing stomache-ache and sometimes I'd shake uncontrollably and babble incoherently (when I was upped to 200mg for ONE day)
You *did* tell the doctor about those affects right? It's not about what your parents want, or what the court wants, or teachers, or anyone else. If you were having troubles like that, let the doc know. He has an obligation to listen to you and respond. And if the doc does nothing about it report the bastard. Who knows what he's prescribing others if he does that crap?
Smart me, I learned to ditch the pills at first, then, for some odd reason (beats me) they were in demand by others. Sure, I'll gladly unload those retched tabs on you for money. So ritalin free, I'm happy. I'll stick to mild stimulants, thank you. Caffene, Nicotine (not mild, but hey) and the always invigorating walk on a nice morning.
Ick.. excercise.;) j/k If you crush 'em and snort 'em you can get a high off of it, and what is effectively an energy reserve to boot after that 5 minute buzz wears off.:)
Now I have, and have had friends who were on dosages that make my mind spin. 300mg of Adderol. Then again he has a habbit of doing daring things that make your heart stop. Hyperactive might be an understatement.
Ack.. I know people like that.. but I personally feel they oughtta be locked up. Of course the ones I know I don't like.. they're dumb as all hell.
It's gettin plain scary in the High Schools with Ritalin, I see people breaking up and sniffing 100mg at a time.
I did that.. once. Never went over 40mg after that at one time. Spread over 4 hour blocks it's actually quite pleasant. Until you run out or decide you've had enough. Then it sucks.:(
Frankly, 10 mountain dews, a half pack, and a loud CD will keep me working for a *long* time. Then again, smoke a couple rocks, freebase, take some K, extacy perhaps, a 24 case of mountain dew, and a carton of unfiltered camels, I'd probably write some incoherent code that has cryptic comments like: "who are you looking at you nasty little grain dog"
ROFL I would recomment not doing that, however funny the resulting "work" might turn out.:)
Have you seen any four-year old 486/Pentium PC's running Windows 2000 effectively, or even *at all*?
First thing I'd love to see a 4 year old 486 (aside from the new designs of them, the kind that are a whole computer in the space of a 3.5" drive) .
Second, Win2K is so bloated (I don't need to SEE it to verify, it should be basic knowledge by now) that, while logically that 486 *should* run anything you throw at it, it cannot because of all the garbage that Microsoft (and others I'm sure) have thrown in there "for the good of the customers".
Thirdly, I *am* sitting next to a 486 machine right now. I'm not using it because it has a 14.4 modem in it and I can ill afford a new one. This 486 I have had for many years. It was bought when the DX2 and VLB were the latest technologies.;) It has 95 on it, and would have RH 5.2 as well except for the small problem of a 230meg drive.:/ It runs 95, and considering how bloated and buggy THAT is I'd say it does fairly well. It only takes it 4 more seconds to get Win up and running on it than on this beast I'm using now (loading all the same stuff as this machine, a PII-200 clone).
Apple computers have their place, yes. Their place is for the people who don't know jack about comput(ers/ing). Or it's for those who are just frankly too stupid to learn about what they bought, you know the same people who pay $400 for an oil change in their car because they know nothing about it? Or it's for those who port a useable (read: infinately configurable) OS to the Apple/Mac architecture.
I have not much respect for a computer you need 3 degrees and 30 reference books just to learn how to do the equivalent of basic operations on a PC. All the same I hope Apple beats the living shit out of those clone bastards in court. I personally hate the iMac concept as a whole but it is wrong to just outright steal it.
And these people are esentially subsidized by the government.. "Tax exemption applies in accordance with Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Service Tax Codes." Well, I'm going to start up a rating system to gauge these religeous zealots in terms of numbers, so I can get out of paying taxes too. I mean come on! These people are quite clearly in need of high doses of medication (all of it, not just one kind, pump all the strongest shit DIRECTLY into their heart chamber!). If this crap is considered to be a viable means to become "tax exempt" then the lot of us should be tax exempt as well! We're part of an organization (same as they are) that: A) reviews published media (same as them) B) Interacts with the community (which unfortunately they do too)
And the way I see it we do a hell of alot more, and a helll of alot more GOOD, than they could ever hope to. Whaddya say Slashdotters?
The only worry is that 'Christian Zealot, Bigot" is prolly a requirement for it knowing the 'religeously seperated' government we got.
Adderall has some nasty side effects. At certain levels, you start to experience ticks, I personally get frigging eye tick at 30 mg. It also kills your appetite (which some people would consider good) and basically prevents sleep while you are using it:)
Ritalin does the same.. I was on it (prescribed) for ADD w/o the hyperactivity for some time.. I did have a blast witht he shit too don't get me wrong, and I do like it once in awhile yet, but after the 2 years of relatively constant (I had mine, and other people gave me theirs too;) use I'm pretty much drug-free. (Mt. Dew and Cigs are my only failures)
They also make a time-release Ritalin which supposedly lasts 8-10 hours as well.
The SR Ritalin I had lasted 4 hours, and kiced in after 20 minutes (taken orally). Snorted, as Ritalin is used for kicks, it takes about 2.25 minutes maximum and you *must* do something at that point.. you have no choice.;)
Also, remember these are all amphetamines, which means they are government controlled and regulated.
Bah, just keep quiet about it, don't do stupid shit (like carry the whole bottle on you at once!) and keep within your circle of friends (the GOOD ones!!) with your info and you be fine.
Every Ginseng product I have ever tried immediately triggers my gag reflex. I couldn't eat/drink that stuff if my life depended on it.. it tastes like shit.. not that I eat shit mind you.:)
I'd be happy to mangle, modify, and otherwise mutilate my stereo. In fact, I already have. I prolly have a high ranking on the bastardization scale of stereos.:) Someone will just sell replacement speakers or a second pass-through decoder for recording anyway, so who cares? Sony can go to hell then eh? I don't think their equipment is all that damned good anyway, but that's just me.:)
I don't think you should complain that Microsoft made it difficult for you to do an illegal install of the Upgrade version of one of their OSes.
Oh really? Ever had an installation fail from your OEM disc for no reason at all? I mean, their shit installer can't even exit cleanly on you.
And how many times have YOU ever had to reinstall, or do you just use your AOL account to check your email and post your spammy web page detailing your pathetic life to the world?
Here's what you should do: Go get a screwdriver, prefferably a longish one. Make sure you are grounded first, then stick it in the power supply of your PC, and touch the pretty red wire where it's soldered in. I guarantee the world will be a better place after. *evil grin*
The installation process is full of further technical hurdles and terms such as "mount point," "package dependencies" and "boot command line."
These are self explainatory, come on guy. I bet he programs in cobol.. use HEAD.BRAIN to THINK first, THEN WRITE.
At this point, I wimped out.
Long before the installation really began. Big deal he had to know what his computer had in it. Everyone should anyway, this guy's just too stupid/lazy/both to learn what he paid 2 grand for.
But I'm not going to be hard on myself, or Linux. No one buys a PC today without an operating system already installed. Putting Windows or the Mac OS onto a blank PC would probably be just about as difficult as installing Linux.
So you never installed Windows, and you claim to be able to criticize ANY method of installation?? Are you insane or just incredibly dumb?
Go try to get your VCR to stop flashing 12:00 and leave us alone ok buddy? You know jack, and that 'article' you posted was nothing more than slander, with a few accidentally relevant points.
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And another thing, Microsoft has been working on OSes for 15 years and *they* don't have a stable kernel. Now, what's that? Bad planning? Or in reality, lack of resources to do right things, as it probably is with HURD??
Linux has been around for how long compared to that again? Is it stable? The 2.0x series sure is. Microsoft's only stable kernels were in DOS (and they fucked that up a few times badly too) and Win 3.1 *cough*. Maybe NT 3.51 (or whatever, I never used it, knew it was a bad move from the start). It's not bad planning or lack of resources for M$, it's lack of ability. They have a bunch of 'houses' in their 'community' that all work on different parts of the base system, yet are in competition with each other, be time or money. And when it comes time to roll it all together into one (badly done) release, the only possible way to do it is patchwork and halfass attempts to make it work before a deadline. None of the "free" OSs have that trouble do they?
The ACs who do that are lust 11-13 (possibly 14) year old meatheads. They are sitting in front of a) daddy's PC b) the PC they got for christmas from their parents which means they'll never have to worry about cash either *grumble* or c) they are over at a friend's house because their friend got (b).
I saw an article on segfault (first time I had even looked at it).. there was a joke about them banning all first posts. If that could only work...;)
And, if you don't have Interuniversal ATnT (Alien Telephone and Telegraph) you can reach them at MSN: nicolai_tesla@msn.com
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lol, you got BSODs in Win31? I'd love to see that. I don't ever recall seeing any crashes in Win31.
It didn't happen as often as I may have implied (once a week or so) but the cause was usually a MS product. Go figure.:)
I'm running Windows 2000 beta, and I never get any crashes, but I'm being good and not installing any 3rd party hardware drivers (but i am running all the software i usually run).
Those 3rd party drivers are what makes newer hardware/software run.. if W2K has all the latest stuff in it, does that not constitute excessive bloat?;) As soon as you 'customize' to make things work *ahem* that aren't included in the distro you'll start getting BSOD's. Be patient, it's like time. It's inevitable (sic) that it will happen, just like when the sun comes up it goes down again eventually.
I think the point is the PC is becoming (already is?) an appliance. People don't need to know how a radio, vcr, microwave etc work, they just use it - that's the direction microsoft has been heading.
That is a dangerous place to be actually.. there will _always_ be the curious who will tinker, but the more mysterious a technology gets the less people can do with it, and the fewer people there are who can fix it if it breaks. I don't want my children, or theirs, to be stuck in a rut of relying on one gigantic company to do everything for them, do you?
Tho that attitude changes somewhat with Windows 2000, but Windows CE is their new consumer baby for d-f-compliance:).
I've never used a CE device so I can't really say much about that.:(
Mozilla isn't really a brilliant gift from netscape. Netscape give away this monstrosity of a product to the open source community. They look at it, and decide to rewrite it all.
rofl Like they say, there's more ways than one to get there.:) NS was the fastest browser for quite awhile, and I've tried others.. still using it tho. I've never actually used Mozilla per se.. haven't even glanced at the source either (my 56K connects me at 24K, damned winmodem), too large.
What's more, Netscape's object model is directly based on MS's COM. There's not much to thank netscape for....maybe MS deserves more thanks since nxCOM is derived from COM.
Thanks nothing, even tho I still use NS Comm. it crashes at least twice a day, and if I'm unlucky it takes the rest of the OS with it.:/ Thank the whole lot with a nice swift kick in the ass maybe..
Regarding the title, you said you agree microsoft makes great software - was that sarcasm? I'm thinking perhaps *not* now, but I could be mistaken;D
Assuming his last name really is 'Hacker' and that it's a real person (no offense if you read this!)..
With a name like that you can really only be one thing. I mean a name like that doesn't exactly fit on a shoe salesman does it?;)
If I had that name.. I'd have a blast. Everyone would think it was a handle, but in truth it'd be my real name. Would be an absolute blast.:)
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Yes, well. Obviously you can't recompile windows without features to slim it down, but like i said previously, Windows is a general purpose OS, it's designed to do most things reasonably well. This saying has been posted many times in this (NT vs. Linux: Again) thread.. "In my experience" Windows is unreliable. I get a minimum of 4 crashes per day on this machine (two of which I blame on the Cyrix processor but the other 2 are definitely Win faults). Even back in Win3 I got many BSOD's and I thought that was normal. (first PC was a 286 with DOS 3.3, nothing to compare with really) I'm talking more of writing apps to expect user errors and to handle them well, which is sometimes quite hard when you are writing GUI apps. Also, MS apps have technologies such as intellisense etc which add more overhead. It's try that COM/ActiveX would be more bloated than 'raw' apps, but I see the benfits are worth it. For example, IE can view PDF files, not by implementing it itself, but by calling Adobe Acrobat and telling it where to put itself (IE as the OLE container). Other things like, being able to put a word document inside an excel application inside a bitmap, inside the windows activex desktop etc etc. Very cool. The programs don't need to be as large as they are.. error traps are a must, wether it's made for the 'dumb user' or not. It must be the way they make the things. I don't see them as needing to be 6 megs for a simple program.. *nostalgic for the 10K kickass progs* There are other things like consistancy. z as an undo for almost everything, including this form text box i'm typing into. These are small things, but there are hundreds of small things which makes windows so much nicer to work with. That is nice, agreed. But any suite of programs made well will give you that (gui or otherwise) usually in a smaller package. (Don't mention Office or something like that, I know they need a platform to run on already) That may be true to a degree, but I've never put the fear of being usurped in the way of developing anything i thought would be 'cool'. I think what you say applies to ever other industry and company tho. Speaking of other companies, do you think working at Netscape (yucky software), Sun, Oracle etc would be as 'polluting'? There are also monetary concerns, but that's beside the point. And yea, It's not just M$ that I fear in that respect, there are many others.. Working for Sun/NS/Oracle would only be so were their mindsets so altered to not be to the benefit of all. Most of us can't go out and buy a $300 piece of software you know.. 've always been impressed by Microsoft's 'relaxed' working enviroment, and Microsoft's origin as a geeky company...Gates still acts like he's 20 years old - and he's got a genuine interest in 'cool' technology like speech technology etc, and MS competition or no compettion still spend billions on R&D cause bill just loves gadegets, which is more than I can say for Ellison and McNealy (who IMHO are the real money hungry jealous types). Remember, Gates used to be a Geek, not a satan worshiper. I do like Gates personally for those reasons actually. I used to view him as a 'model of success' until I learned some of the underhanded things he's done.. kinda burst that bubble. (I aint a youngass kid either, just some guy without much money to buy new computers, etc) I have no beef with the man himself, it's his company that's a problem. You might think it isn't significant, but the overall impression of Microsoft I get isn't bad. Ok, I 'may be' naive but I know how easily what they say can be twisted. That applies to anyone and anything tho doesn't it? It just happens that M$ is a very good target who quite possibly deserves everything they get.. What people see as bad things (which MS does) is nothing unique to MS, it's done worse by MS's competitors, they just don't do successfully, so it's easier for them to play 'innocent'. Corporations/companies are human nature's bad sides amplified a hundredfold. Microsoft is currently the undisputed largest of them atm so that is to be expected. With any luck we can all tone down these powerhungry 'institutions' so we the people can go through life without being under the thumb. If M$ had been allowed to continue as they were going, Unixes would be almost dead (for all intents and purposes), Mac would be 'that other computer'.. Be would soon be bought by them if they won't already be anyway.. and the end user would be locked into 'Upgrade the computer so I can still use the Internet, or pay rent for the next 2 months'. And that sucks ass. Netscape have used much worse strong arm tactics to try to control web content...where MS just want to integrate IE into Windows (a very good idea IMHO). Maybe for the computer know-naughts it would be good for them to think everything is the Internet, including the PC they shelled out 1.2G's for, but I tend to want to give people a chance to learn first. If they prove their idiocy then they can do something else. If they 'get it', even a little, then all the better for us. No need for everything to be '100% dumb-fuck-compatible'.:) Netscape have always been free to create a replacement shell to Windows (it's not hard) that supports netscape web integration. It was netscape's channels bar that wouldn't let you delete default channels, not IE's, and it was Netscape that made Netcentre the default page for every browser on your system. Without asking. How rude. rofl Netscape is no better than M$, though they claim to be. Mozilla is a plus for us at any rate, and I think more than M$ has done. They are all, in the end, trying to control what we see, how we see it, and in effect our lives. Things like the FSF, W3C, etc are good because they further the things that benefit all. Low techies can view HTML with W3C standards in it. Programs are simple enough to make it easy to get a grasp on it right off, but are still more than good enough for the technically minded. BTW, what's with the title. Was that sarcasm? I honestly haven't a clue what that means.:(
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Well, unlike what you say you know. I use linux, and I know how to use command lines, I'm not a mouse crazy idiot. But I do know where you draw the line. I'd rather use the mouse to do tasks which would be faster if i use the mouse. Granted, if it's possible to do it in under 200 megs (my Win partition takes about 210ish of the 450 I allocated it, custom install). I don't see this in Window's future. All Microsoft apps are heavily bloated? I don't think so, for what they do, they are rather slim. Try making an appliation do something, then try making an application that does something, and makes it easy for joe bloggs to use. Hmm.. so if I want to make a compiler for instance, I should make it so simplified that some shmuch who knows jack and is too fscking stupid to know it anyway can belch at the computer and churn out mind-blowing software? Come on. If someone can't do something (my example was admittedly very exaggerated) they have no business doing it. If they are learning it, have an interest, and most importantly an ability, then they are more than welcome. And let me be the last one to flame them. Unless what they do sucks... And I didn't compare Linux users to MS Programmers, I didn't even mention the word programmer in the sentence. It was implied heavily. If I misuderstood completely then disregard it.:) Stereotyping Windows as a file eating, memory hungry OS that is no good for nothing is jsut stupid. There are millions of copies of Windows out there in offices and homes, which work perfectly well for those people. Oh, you mean the AOLosers, the ones that think Hotmail is the best thing in the world? Those people shouldn't play with the settings on their stereo, much less operate a computer. About Win, it *IS* bloated. I have an executeable compressor here. No special drivers need to run for it to work, it just compresses it in a runnable form. It knocked off several megs from my larger Win progs. When I start Win it takes ALL of my RAM for itself. All. It makes my progs use SWAP. *growl* And it's not good for NOTHING, it's just that it aint good for MUCH.:) And so working for a company polutes you cause you get paid? Nope, by no means. Working for Microsoft pollutes you. To varying degrees, I should have said. M$ and their ilk (other companies with similar policies) drag down those who would be giants in other aspects than the dollar sign. I am somewhat fearful, truth be known, to develop my better ideas due to Microsoft and others like it. I fear my ideas would get stolen right out from under me and there would be a total of jack SHIT I could do to retaliate.
And I highly doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
Do you always say it with your caps lock on?:P I didn't participate in the spamming of ANYONE. I dislike the mere thought of it. Had I decided to send an email it would have been 1) to request more info or 2) to debate a legitimate problem. If you think that *ALL* Linux advocates are spammers, children, or whatever your mind can think up, you are sorely mistaken. Try RE-reading my post. And do it with an open mind ok? Not your "Microsoft is good and everyone else is a heretic" attitude.
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Talk about troll. Ok. If you insist. Replace Microsoft with Linux Torvalds. Hello? Anyone home inside there pal? He doesn't make the GNU tools, nor Apache, or any of that. He makes the kernel. Go read before you open your mouth and say something stupid. Linux doesn't run SMPs well does it? NT isn't designed to be a super computer OS. It's a PC operating system, a general purpose OS. DUH. It's a PC OS huh? CP/M was too correct? General purpose? Yeah right. I could list things that will not run on NT (win progs) but I won't make you look any dumber. You do good enough. DUH. slashdot.org doesn't run IIS? uh..it's got nothing to do with microsoft..so what? If you don't see the implication there you need help... EBAY, Microsoft, Dell run IIS, and they have much bigger websites than slashdot. Yeah, I never looked at Ebay, and hate Dell. As for the M$ site, every *every* HTTP request I send their servers returns 'Remote connection reset by peer' in Netscape. Nice server. Microsoft don't grow engineers on trees, their engineers come fromvarious backgrounds (inlcuding unix). They have enough money to hire the best in the world, and they do. Yeah, you'd think at a cerain point there's such a thing as ENOUGH money.. And when they hire a programmer, he may be creative, smart, innovative, all that crap. But he is no longer 'pure'. He prolly expects to get paid when he goes out with his wife for his 'service' (dinner, not sex). You probably have your face stuck up somewhere dark to realise you can't comapre vi or emacs to Office 2000 and complain how large Office is etc. Office does MUCH more, and Microsoft's products simplyfy working, which is more than I can say for Linux/Unix. All M$ products are overly bloated for one thing, and Office is no exception. Sure it does lots of kewl little things, but hell, I can make a picture that does lots of kewl things with two pencils and some resin (from a tree). They simplify working by making everyone work the way THEY want them to. Nice company. Sure, there are you guys out there who don't want things to be simple, you'd rather excercise your brains doing "hard" things like mounting NFS/SMB dirves by typing rather than doing it in a few clicks. You go ahead and play with your mouse. We know you depend on that little thing. We however know, and will continue to, how to do things without a mouse. Guess who's gonna be using who's programs here? I prefer to have the OS do as much as it can, while I get on with the real work. If by any chance, I need to do things manually, I go and do it. Oh, Win does as much as it can. Mostly collecting files it doesn't need, eating your prefs/settings, and if you are really lucky it might eat a partition or two. Nice OS. And what's your problem? Are you on medication? Why, you got something good? MS Write, MS Bob? So what? How about MS Windows, MS Office (Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint etc), MS Visual Studio, MS J++ (if the best selling javaproduct), MS Exchange, MS SQL Server, MS Internet Explorer, MS IIS, MS COM (the most successful component model in the entire world), MS MTS, MS DTC..all pretty much defacto standards now...and that's only to mention a few. Those are standards (well, the ones that are in that list) are only because of brute force and M$'s anticompetitive nature. How can you compete with 100 bucks in your pocket when they got a billion they'd just as soon stick up your ass as anything? Unlike Linux users MS doesn't claim not to make mistakes, infact Gates even showed the video of Win98's BSOD last year, again this year at COMDEX. So you compare Linux *USERS* to Microsoft's *PROGRAMMERS* eh? You think every Joe who uses Linux is a programmer? I pity you and your world. That video is something I'd like to see again tho.. always good for a laugh. Although what's the point of reshowing a BSOD, truthfully? Who hasn't seen more than they can possibly count of them already? Kinda redundant if you ask me.
Happy clicking. I'll be off to play around with my Linux box, to change it's basic settings. Like to see NT (95/98/2K) do that. *chuckle*
A friend mentioned PGCC, which is much better than GCC from what I've seen, but I haven't been able to find it.. Anyone know where to get a copy? Direct link to the file(s) preferred..
He is a M$ employee, or a contractor, ask him how much he gets paid for saying this. He knew how it was going to end up because it was all engineered.;)
Ok serious now. Why do you want to take this to a persona level? "LINUX IDIOTS"? Come on now, your mother HAD to have taught you better than that. If not mebbe you should have been beaten more as a child..;)
As for old hippies, I aint old. I still can't get my Linux box up proper (due to my own lack of knowledge, not the OS) but from the second I installed it I knew this (the win box) had numbered days.. Linux doesn't crash. Never has for me. Win crashes a *MINIMUM* of 4 times daily. And before it's said, it isn't 950a.
Let M$ have a field day. They'll be buried soon enough under their own loads of BS.
If M$ made cold fusion it wouldn't work. You know that. As for a conspiracy in everything, are yo9u that unread? M$ *DOES* conspire about alot of things, most of which it has no business being a part of. Go read up, then repost.
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I was on ritalin too, however, I was young, on an eye-popping dosage. They were cramming 100mg a day down my mouth at age 10-12. And at that level, I find it particularly incapacitating. I don't really see why... I wasn't hyperactive... I suppose ADHD is the most over-diagnosed condition among kids.
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Yea, it is overdiagnosed. In fact, that is an understatement. I was just on 2 20mg SR pills at the max (prescribed, I snorted massive dosages tho.. never exceeding 240mg a day tho, you think caffiene jitters are bad do it once!!! 240mg was over a full 24 hour period btw, no sleep)
I'd take my dose in the morning, and within an hour later I'd be in a cold sweat. Barely able to read or carry on a stable conversation and just shell shocked into meek cooperation with my teachers. I'd get a gnawing stomache-ache and sometimes I'd shake uncontrollably and babble incoherently (when I was upped to 200mg for ONE day)
You *did* tell the doctor about those affects right? It's not about what your parents want, or what the court wants, or teachers, or anyone else. If you were having troubles like that, let the doc know. He has an obligation to listen to you and respond. And if the doc does nothing about it report the bastard. Who knows what he's prescribing others if he does that crap?
Smart me, I learned to ditch the pills at first, then, for some odd reason (beats me) they were in demand by others. Sure, I'll gladly unload those retched tabs on you for money. So ritalin free, I'm happy. I'll stick to mild stimulants, thank you. Caffene, Nicotine (not mild, but hey) and the always invigorating walk on a nice morning.
Ick.. excercise.
If you crush 'em and snort 'em you can get a high off of it, and what is effectively an energy reserve to boot after that 5 minute buzz wears off.
Now I have, and have had friends who were on dosages that make my mind spin. 300mg of Adderol. Then again he has a habbit of doing daring things that make your heart stop. Hyperactive might be an understatement.
Ack.. I know people like that.. but I personally feel they oughtta be locked up. Of course the ones I know I don't like.. they're dumb as all hell.
It's gettin plain scary in the High Schools with Ritalin, I see people breaking up and sniffing 100mg at a time.
I did that.. once. Never went over 40mg after that at one time. Spread over 4 hour blocks it's actually quite pleasant. Until you run out or decide you've had enough. Then it sucks.
Frankly, 10 mountain dews, a half pack, and a loud CD will keep me working for a *long* time. Then again, smoke a couple rocks, freebase, take some K, extacy perhaps, a 24 case of mountain dew, and a carton of unfiltered camels, I'd probably write some incoherent code that has cryptic comments like: "who are you looking at you nasty little grain dog"
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I would recomment not doing that, however funny the resulting "work" might turn out.
Umm.. no. :P
Have you seen any four-year old 486/Pentium PC's running Windows 2000 effectively, or even *at all*?
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First thing I'd love to see a 4 year old 486 (aside from the new designs of them, the kind that are a whole computer in the space of a 3.5" drive) .
Second, Win2K is so bloated (I don't need to SEE it to verify, it should be basic knowledge by now) that, while logically that 486 *should* run anything you throw at it, it cannot because of all the garbage that Microsoft (and others I'm sure) have thrown in there "for the good of the customers".
Thirdly, I *am* sitting next to a 486 machine right now. I'm not using it because it has a 14.4 modem in it and I can ill afford a new one. This 486 I have had for many years. It was bought when the DX2 and VLB were the latest technologies.
It has 95 on it, and would have RH 5.2 as well except for the small problem of a 230meg drive.
It runs 95, and considering how bloated and buggy THAT is I'd say it does fairly well. It only takes it 4 more seconds to get Win up and running on it than on this beast I'm using now (loading all the same stuff as this machine, a PII-200 clone).
Apple computers have their place, yes. Their place is for the people who don't know jack about comput(ers/ing). Or it's for those who are just frankly too stupid to learn about what they bought, you know the same people who pay $400 for an oil change in their car because they know nothing about it? Or it's for those who port a useable (read: infinately configurable) OS to the Apple/Mac architecture.
I have not much respect for a computer you need 3 degrees and 30 reference books just to learn how to do the equivalent of basic operations on a PC. All the same I hope Apple beats the living shit out of those clone bastards in court. I personally hate the iMac concept as a whole but it is wrong to just outright steal it.
And these people are esentially subsidized by the government..
"Tax exemption applies in accordance with Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Service Tax Codes."
Well, I'm going to start up a rating system to gauge these religeous zealots in terms of numbers, so I can get out of paying taxes too.
I mean come on! These people are quite clearly in need of high doses of medication (all of it, not just one kind, pump all the strongest shit DIRECTLY into their heart chamber!).
If this crap is considered to be a viable means to become "tax exempt" then the lot of us should be tax exempt as well!
We're part of an organization (same as they are) that:
A) reviews published media (same as them)
B) Interacts with the community (which unfortunately they do too)
And the way I see it we do a hell of alot more, and a helll of alot more GOOD, than they could ever hope to. Whaddya say Slashdotters?
The only worry is that 'Christian Zealot, Bigot" is prolly a requirement for it knowing the 'religeously seperated' government we got.
Adderall has some nasty side effects. At certain levels, you start to experience ticks, I personally get frigging eye tick at 30 mg. It also kills your appetite (which some people would consider good) and basically prevents sleep while you are using it :)
;) use I'm pretty much drug-free. (Mt. Dew and Cigs are my only failures)
;)
Ritalin does the same.. I was on it (prescribed) for ADD w/o the hyperactivity for some time.. I did have a blast witht he shit too don't get me wrong, and I do like it once in awhile yet, but after the 2 years of relatively constant (I had mine, and other people gave me theirs too
They also make a time-release Ritalin which supposedly lasts 8-10 hours as well.
The SR Ritalin I had lasted 4 hours, and kiced in after 20 minutes (taken orally). Snorted, as Ritalin is used for kicks, it takes about 2.25 minutes maximum and you *must* do something at that point.. you have no choice.
Also, remember these are all amphetamines, which means they are government controlled and regulated.
Bah, just keep quiet about it, don't do stupid shit (like carry the whole bottle on you at once!) and keep within your circle of friends (the GOOD ones!!) with your info and you be fine.
*gag*
:)
Every Ginseng product I have ever tried immediately triggers my gag reflex. I couldn't eat/drink that stuff if my life depended on it.. it tastes like shit.. not that I eat shit mind you.
I'd be happy to mangle, modify, and otherwise mutilate my stereo. In fact, I already have. I prolly have a high ranking on the bastardization scale of stereos. :) :)
Someone will just sell replacement speakers or a second pass-through decoder for recording anyway, so who cares? Sony can go to hell then eh? I don't think their equipment is all that damned good anyway, but that's just me.
I don't think you should complain that Microsoft made it difficult for you to do an illegal install of the Upgrade version of one of their OSes.
Oh really? Ever had an installation fail from your OEM disc for no reason at all? I mean, their shit installer can't even exit cleanly on you.
And how many times have YOU ever had to reinstall, or do you just use your AOL account to check your email and post your spammy web page detailing your pathetic life to the world?
Here's what you should do:
Go get a screwdriver, prefferably a longish one. Make sure you are grounded first, then stick it in the power supply of your PC, and touch the pretty red wire where it's soldered in. I guarantee the world will be a better place after. *evil grin*
The installation process is full of further technical hurdles and terms such as "mount point," "package dependencies" and "boot command line."
These are self explainatory, come on guy.
I bet he programs in cobol..
use HEAD.BRAIN to THINK first, THEN WRITE.
At this point, I wimped out.
Long before the installation really began. Big deal he had to know what his computer had in it. Everyone should anyway, this guy's just too stupid/lazy/both to learn what he paid 2 grand for.
But I'm not going to be hard on myself, or Linux. No one buys a PC today without an operating system already installed. Putting Windows or the Mac OS onto a blank PC would probably be just about as difficult as installing Linux.
So you never installed Windows, and you claim to be able to criticize ANY method of installation?? Are you insane or just incredibly dumb?
Go try to get your VCR to stop flashing 12:00 and leave us alone ok buddy? You know jack, and that 'article' you posted was nothing more than slander, with a few accidentally relevant points.
-SC
And another thing, Microsoft has been working on OSes for 15 years and *they* don't have a stable kernel. Now, what's that? Bad planning? Or in reality, lack of resources to do right things, as it probably is with HURD??
Linux has been around for how long compared to that again? Is it stable? The 2.0x series sure is. Microsoft's only stable kernels were in DOS (and they fucked that up a few times badly too) and Win 3.1 *cough*. Maybe NT 3.51 (or whatever, I never used it, knew it was a bad move from the start).
It's not bad planning or lack of resources for M$, it's lack of ability. They have a bunch of 'houses' in their 'community' that all work on different parts of the base system, yet are in competition with each other, be time or money. And when it comes time to roll it all together into one (badly done) release, the only possible way to do it is patchwork and halfass attempts to make it work before a deadline.
None of the "free" OSs have that trouble do they?
The ACs who do that are lust 11-13 (possibly 14) year old meatheads. They are sitting in front of
;)
a) daddy's PC
b) the PC they got for christmas from their parents which means they'll never have to worry about cash either *grumble*
or c) they are over at a friend's house because their friend got (b).
I saw an article on segfault (first time I had even looked at it).. there was a joke about them banning all first posts. If that could only work...
Don't forget:
4) Solar Powered Flashlights
5) Glass Hammers
6) High-Strength Muffler Belts
:)
*ROFL*
*ROFL*
And, if you don't have Interuniversal ATnT (Alien Telephone and Telegraph) you can reach them at MSN: nicolai_tesla@msn.com
lol, you got BSODs in Win31? I'd love to see that. I don't ever recall seeing any crashes in Win31.
:)
;) As soon as you 'customize' to make things work *ahem* that aren't included in the distro you'll start getting BSOD's. Be patient, it's like time. It's inevitable (sic) that it will happen, just like when the sun comes up it goes down again eventually.
:).
:(
:) NS was the fastest browser for quite awhile, and I've tried others.. still using it tho. I've never actually used Mozilla per se.. haven't even glanced at the source either (my 56K connects me at 24K, damned winmodem), too large.
:/
;D
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It didn't happen as often as I may have implied (once a week or so) but the cause was usually a MS product. Go figure.
I'm running Windows 2000 beta, and I never get any crashes, but I'm being good and not installing any 3rd party hardware drivers (but i am running all the software i usually run).
Those 3rd party drivers are what makes newer hardware/software run.. if W2K has all the latest stuff in it, does that not constitute excessive bloat?
I think the point is the PC is becoming (already is?) an appliance. People don't need to know how a radio, vcr, microwave etc work, they just use it - that's the direction microsoft has been heading.
That is a dangerous place to be actually.. there will _always_ be the curious who will tinker, but the more mysterious a technology gets the less people can do with it, and the fewer people there are who can fix it if it breaks. I don't want my children, or theirs, to be stuck in a rut of relying on one gigantic company to do everything for them, do you?
Tho that attitude changes somewhat with Windows 2000, but Windows CE is their new consumer baby for d-f-compliance
I've never used a CE device so I can't really say much about that.
Mozilla isn't really a brilliant gift from netscape. Netscape give away this monstrosity of a product to the open source community. They look at it, and decide to rewrite it all.
rofl
Like they say, there's more ways than one to get there.
What's more, Netscape's object model is directly based on MS's COM. There's not much to thank netscape for....maybe MS deserves more thanks since nxCOM is derived from COM.
Thanks nothing, even tho I still use NS Comm. it crashes at least twice a day, and if I'm unlucky it takes the rest of the OS with it.
Thank the whole lot with a nice swift kick in the ass maybe..
Regarding the title, you said you agree microsoft makes great software - was that sarcasm? I'm thinking perhaps *not* now, but I could be mistaken
I didn't put the title in, my first on this thread was a Re: to here
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=99/06/25/2133
It was a response to your response to the guy who thinks MS is the best thing since sliced bread.
Later.
Assuming his last name really is 'Hacker' and that it's a real person (no offense if you read this!)..
;)
:)
With a name like that you can really only be one thing. I mean a name like that doesn't exactly fit on a shoe salesman does it?
If I had that name.. I'd have a blast. Everyone would think it was a handle, but in truth it'd be my real name. Would be an absolute blast.
Yes, well. Obviously you can't recompile windows without features to slim it down, but like i said previously, Windows is a general purpose OS, it's designed to do most things reasonably well. ...where MS just want to integrate IE into Windows (a very good idea IMHO). :) :(
This saying has been posted many times in this (NT vs. Linux: Again) thread.. "In my experience" Windows is unreliable. I get a minimum of 4 crashes per day on this machine (two of which I blame on the Cyrix processor but the other 2 are definitely Win faults). Even back in Win3 I got many BSOD's and I thought that was normal. (first PC was a 286 with DOS 3.3, nothing to compare with really)
I'm talking more of writing apps to expect user errors and to handle them well, which is sometimes quite hard when you are writing GUI apps. Also, MS apps have technologies such as intellisense etc which add more overhead. It's try that COM/ActiveX would be more bloated than 'raw' apps, but I see the benfits are worth it. For example, IE can view PDF files, not by implementing it itself, but by calling Adobe Acrobat and telling it where to put itself (IE as the OLE container). Other things like, being able to put a word document inside an excel application inside a bitmap, inside the windows activex desktop etc etc. Very cool.
The programs don't need to be as large as they are.. error traps are a must, wether it's made for the 'dumb user' or not. It must be the way they make the things. I don't see them as needing to be 6 megs for a simple program.. *nostalgic for the 10K kickass progs*
There are other things like consistancy. z as an undo for almost everything, including this form text box i'm typing into. These are small things, but there are hundreds of small things which makes windows so much nicer to work with.
That is nice, agreed. But any suite of programs made well will give you that (gui or otherwise) usually in a smaller package. (Don't mention Office or something like that, I know they need a platform to run on already)
That may be true to a degree, but I've never put the fear of being usurped in the way of developing anything i thought would be 'cool'. I think what you say applies to ever other industry and company tho. Speaking of other companies, do you think working at Netscape (yucky software), Sun, Oracle etc would be as 'polluting'?
There are also monetary concerns, but that's beside the point. And yea, It's not just M$ that I fear in that respect, there are many others..
Working for Sun/NS/Oracle would only be so were their mindsets so altered to not be to the benefit of all. Most of us can't go out and buy a $300 piece of software you know..
've always been impressed by Microsoft's 'relaxed' working enviroment, and Microsoft's origin as a geeky company...Gates still acts like he's 20 years old - and he's got a genuine interest in 'cool' technology like speech technology etc, and MS competition or no compettion still spend billions on R&D cause bill just loves gadegets, which is more than I can say for Ellison and McNealy (who IMHO are the real money hungry jealous types). Remember, Gates used to be a Geek, not a satan worshiper.
I do like Gates personally for those reasons actually. I used to view him as a 'model of success' until I learned some of the underhanded things he's done.. kinda burst that bubble. (I aint a youngass kid either, just some guy without much money to buy new computers, etc) I have no beef with the man himself, it's his company that's a problem.
You might think it isn't significant, but the overall impression of Microsoft I get isn't bad. Ok, I 'may be' naive but I know how easily what they say can be twisted.
That applies to anyone and anything tho doesn't it? It just happens that M$ is a very good target who quite possibly deserves everything they get..
What people see as bad things (which MS does) is nothing unique to MS, it's done worse by MS's competitors, they just don't do successfully, so it's easier for them to play 'innocent'.
Corporations/companies are human nature's bad sides amplified a hundredfold. Microsoft is currently the undisputed largest of them atm so that is to be expected. With any luck we can all tone down these powerhungry 'institutions' so we the people can go through life without being under the thumb. If M$ had been allowed to continue as they were going, Unixes would be almost dead (for all intents and purposes), Mac would be 'that other computer'.. Be would soon be bought by them if they won't already be anyway.. and the end user would be locked into 'Upgrade the computer so I can still use the Internet, or pay rent for the next 2 months'. And that sucks ass.
Netscape have used much worse strong arm tactics to try to control web content
Maybe for the computer know-naughts it would be good for them to think everything is the Internet, including the PC they shelled out 1.2G's for, but I tend to want to give people a chance to learn first. If they prove their idiocy then they can do something else. If they 'get it', even a little, then all the better for us. No need for everything to be '100% dumb-fuck-compatible'.
Netscape have always been free to create a replacement shell to Windows (it's not hard) that supports netscape web integration. It was netscape's channels bar that wouldn't let you delete default channels, not IE's, and it was Netscape that made Netcentre the default page for every browser on your system. Without asking. How rude.
rofl
Netscape is no better than M$, though they claim to be. Mozilla is a plus for us at any rate, and I think more than M$ has done.
They are all, in the end, trying to control what we see, how we see it, and in effect our lives. Things like the FSF, W3C, etc are good because they further the things that benefit all. Low techies can view HTML with W3C standards in it. Programs are simple enough to make it easy to get a grasp on it right off, but are still more than good enough for the technically minded.
BTW, what's with the title. Was that sarcasm?
I honestly haven't a clue what that means.
Later.
Well, unlike what you say you know. I use linux, and I know how to use command lines, I'm not a mouse crazy idiot. But I do know where you draw the line. I'd rather use the mouse to do tasks which would be faster if i use the mouse. :) :)
Granted, if it's possible to do it in under 200 megs (my Win partition takes about 210ish of the 450 I allocated it, custom install). I don't see this in Window's future.
All Microsoft apps are heavily bloated? I don't think so, for what they do, they are rather slim. Try making an appliation do something, then try making an application that does something, and makes it easy for joe bloggs to use.
Hmm.. so if I want to make a compiler for instance, I should make it so simplified that some shmuch who knows jack and is too fscking stupid to know it anyway can belch at the computer and churn out mind-blowing software? Come on. If someone can't do something (my example was admittedly very exaggerated) they have no business doing it. If they are learning it, have an interest, and most importantly an ability, then they are more than welcome. And let me be the last one to flame them. Unless what they do sucks...
And I didn't compare Linux users to MS Programmers, I didn't even mention the word programmer in the sentence.
It was implied heavily. If I misuderstood completely then disregard it.
Stereotyping Windows as a file eating, memory hungry OS that is no good for nothing is jsut stupid. There are millions of copies of Windows out there in offices and homes, which work perfectly well for those people.
Oh, you mean the AOLosers, the ones that think Hotmail is the best thing in the world? Those people shouldn't play with the settings on their stereo, much less operate a computer. About Win, it *IS* bloated. I have an executeable compressor here. No special drivers need to run for it to work, it just compresses it in a runnable form. It knocked off several megs from my larger Win progs. When I start Win it takes ALL of my RAM for itself. All. It makes my progs use SWAP. *growl*
And it's not good for NOTHING, it's just that it aint good for MUCH.
And so working for a company polutes you cause you get paid?
Nope, by no means. Working for Microsoft pollutes you. To varying degrees, I should have said.
M$ and their ilk (other companies with similar policies) drag down those who would be giants in other aspects than the dollar sign. I am somewhat fearful, truth be known, to develop my better ideas due to Microsoft and others like it. I fear my ideas would get stolen right out from under me and there would be a total of jack SHIT I could do to retaliate.
And I highly doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
That's what I read about it. My apologies. :)
But since it's Posix-compliant, does that not make it Unixen?
Do you always say it with your caps lock on? :P
I didn't participate in the spamming of ANYONE. I dislike the mere thought of it. Had I decided to send an email it would have been 1) to request more info or 2) to debate a legitimate problem.
If you think that *ALL* Linux advocates are spammers, children, or whatever your mind can think up, you are sorely mistaken.
Try RE-reading my post. And do it with an open mind ok? Not your "Microsoft is good and everyone else is a heretic" attitude.
Talk about troll.
Ok. If you insist.
Replace Microsoft with Linux Torvalds.
Hello? Anyone home inside there pal? He doesn't make the GNU tools, nor Apache, or any of that. He makes the kernel. Go read before you open your mouth and say something stupid.
Linux doesn't run SMPs well does it?
NT isn't designed to be a super computer OS. It's a PC operating system, a general purpose OS. DUH.
It's a PC OS huh? CP/M was too correct? General purpose? Yeah right. I could list things that will not run on NT (win progs) but I won't make you look any dumber. You do good enough. DUH.
slashdot.org doesn't run IIS? uh..it's got nothing to do with microsoft..so what?
If you don't see the implication there you need help...
EBAY, Microsoft, Dell run IIS, and they have much bigger websites than slashdot.
Yeah, I never looked at Ebay, and hate Dell. As for the M$ site, every *every* HTTP request I send their servers returns 'Remote connection reset by peer' in Netscape. Nice server.
Microsoft don't grow engineers on trees, their engineers come fromvarious backgrounds (inlcuding unix). They have enough money to hire the best in the world, and they do.
Yeah, you'd think at a cerain point there's such a thing as ENOUGH money.. And when they hire a programmer, he may be creative, smart, innovative, all that crap. But he is no longer 'pure'. He prolly expects to get paid when he goes out with his wife for his 'service' (dinner, not sex).
You probably have your face stuck up somewhere dark to realise you can't comapre vi or emacs to Office 2000 and complain how large Office is etc. Office does MUCH more, and Microsoft's products simplyfy working, which is more than I can say for Linux/Unix.
All M$ products are overly bloated for one thing, and Office is no exception. Sure it does lots of kewl little things, but hell, I can make a picture that does lots of kewl things with two pencils and some resin (from a tree).
They simplify working by making everyone work the way THEY want them to. Nice company.
Sure, there are you guys out there who don't want things to be simple, you'd rather excercise your brains doing "hard" things like mounting NFS/SMB dirves by typing rather than doing it in a few clicks.
You go ahead and play with your mouse. We know you depend on that little thing. We however know, and will continue to, how to do things without a mouse. Guess who's gonna be using who's programs here?
I prefer to have the OS do as much as it can, while I get on with the real work. If by any chance, I need to do things manually, I go and do it.
Oh, Win does as much as it can. Mostly collecting files it doesn't need, eating your prefs/settings, and if you are really lucky it might eat a partition or two. Nice OS.
And what's your problem? Are you on medication?
Why, you got something good?
MS Write, MS Bob? So what? How about MS Windows, MS Office (Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint etc), MS Visual Studio, MS J++ (if the best selling javaproduct), MS Exchange, MS SQL Server, MS Internet Explorer, MS IIS, MS COM (the most successful component model in the entire world), MS MTS, MS DTC..all pretty much defacto standards now...and that's only to mention a few.
Those are standards (well, the ones that are in that list) are only because of brute force and M$'s anticompetitive nature. How can you compete with 100 bucks in your pocket when they got a billion they'd just as soon stick up your ass as anything?
Unlike Linux users MS doesn't claim not to make mistakes, infact Gates even showed the video of Win98's BSOD last year, again this year at COMDEX.
So you compare Linux *USERS* to Microsoft's *PROGRAMMERS* eh? You think every Joe who uses Linux is a programmer? I pity you and your world.
That video is something I'd like to see again tho.. always good for a laugh. Although what's the point of reshowing a BSOD, truthfully? Who hasn't seen more than they can possibly count of them already? Kinda redundant if you ask me.
Happy clicking. I'll be off to play around with my Linux box, to change it's basic settings. Like to see NT (95/98/2K) do that. *chuckle*
A friend mentioned PGCC, which is much better than GCC from what I've seen, but I haven't been able to find it.. Anyone know where to get a copy?
Direct link to the file(s) preferred..
He is a M$ employee, or a contractor, ask him how much he gets paid for saying this. He knew how it was going to end up because it was all engineered. ;)
;)
Ok serious now. Why do you want to take this to a persona level? "LINUX IDIOTS"? Come on now, your mother HAD to have taught you better than that. If not mebbe you should have been beaten more as a child..
As for old hippies, I aint old. I still can't get my Linux box up proper (due to my own lack of knowledge, not the OS) but from the second I installed it I knew this (the win box) had numbered days.. Linux doesn't crash. Never has for me. Win crashes a *MINIMUM* of 4 times daily. And before it's said, it isn't 950a.
Let M$ have a field day. They'll be buried soon enough under their own loads of BS.
"I am a linux(still pronouncing it lie-nucks...is this wrong?)"
I pronounce it the same way.. and I care very little if it is incorrect. It sounds right, feels right, and it fits.
:)
I said something remarkably similar about Be earlier.. but I remember reading after I had posted it that Be IS based on UNIX (of some sort).
If M$ made cold fusion it wouldn't work. You know that.
As for a conspiracy in everything, are yo9u that unread? M$ *DOES* conspire about alot of things, most of which it has no business being a part of.
Go read up, then repost.