Except I would have real stuff like the Russians and The US had to play with like nukes. So, I would turn it into a massive multi player strategy action adventure drama comedy science fiction game or just MMPSAADCSFG for short. Whaddya think? Could I patent it?
So, are you saying Windows is not done until Adobe is broke, so that people will use M$ stuff instead? They have done that before. I don't think Adobe is at fault, since the same problem appears many times for them, but no issues on Silverlight. Interesting, Adobe works on the Mac and Linux flawlessly. So it's got to be the evil empire again. Look out for the fine they are going to get now. WOW.
In all seriousness, couldn't this happen with any OS as JAVA is cross platform. And,....we'll for Windows users just leave that stuff disabled. They re-enable it, and then they have computer problems. I fix, wash, rinse, repeat, for the consumer until his money or patience wears out or if it becomes a problem at the corporate level, I just "Block, Lock and Monitor". Whadda they need to be doing going to "Flash Sites" in the first place. What could they possibly learn from that will help the company? PDF's we'll now they ARE used a lot by us, but they have never cause trouble because people don't fool with them unless it's necessary and most PDF's are created "in house". The rest come from sites like irs.gov and places like that while possibly being compromised are not likely to be because who would care? What would they even get except DRM'd Apple music saved to "My Documents" shadowed to the server. God I wish I could clue them in about Apple having non drm'd music, without causing too much trouble. But you know how that is? Sooo.....I predict if Linux becomes real popular for the desktop, then FireFox would be judged by the public to be poor, because it will not work on some weird home town banking site that says it requires IE5. Most smaller places will not switch unless their current setup breaks because of age.
M$ started out as the good guys. In fact they were all good except one who fell to the dark side. Soon others followed. Now, those in the light there are few. They are mostly machines now. Not much human left in them. Then the rebels went out onto the internet to hide. We'll the dark lord wanted this real bad. Everyone had to use Windows 3.1 back then. Then the dark Windows 95 came out and it looked like another rebel OS. The rebels attacked, but the dark lord paid little and by changing a trash can to recycling one. They still seemed good to many. Then the mighty rebel Netscape tried to fight at first and then they ran after IE was given away with windows 95 for free.
Now, fast forward to today, their empire is a paper tiger just ready to be blown away by a strong wind. Now, meanwhile our hero...We'll did you think I was gonna tell it all. You gotta pay to read the book.
--How did coral reefs survive periods when CO2 was several times higher than today?--
They were not there as such. Tho whole biosphere was way different then. That would probably be around the time coal was formed. I think this would be about right, but then again are you a climatologist? I'm not, but I had enough chemistry to know that making seawater more acidic and reducing it's salinity by the melting of the ice caps, cannot be good at all. It will do some very nasty things that CO2 in the air alone would not bother, but when you send it up much goes into the oceans. Just let a coke go flat and test the PH of the water. That's as plain and simple as simple could be. Heat of course cause the ice to melt. We'll you know it wont kill everything, just 90% to 99% of all life possibly all people, but it really doesn't matter, because war over fossil fuels can change present allies into enemies. So if you want to talk about burning fossil fuels. We will not be able to do that cheaply for long anyhow. You wanna talk cost. Pay a lot now or go bankrupt tomorrow. Fossil fuels should probably be only used to make stuff like certain plastics. It would last a long time if we just didn't burn them. It would be much much better to run all transportation off of electricity, and generate all of that with nukes. It's the fastest, cheapest, and not without flaws, but the best method that I can think of to fix things. We have to build many very fast. Lithium Ion battery tech is already good enough for transportation using the same highways and gas stations, but they would deliver electricity either by just swapping ISO standard component batteries or that follow some kind of standard from nation to nation. That would make it work with current tech. Some MIT students have batteries that charge in 15 minutes and will get you 300 miles of range, but that still just in the design stage. You know gas caps a nozzles follow a standard. So could battery packs for a car for distance traveling. Charge at home at night for going to work. Take a careful look at the data. It does really look bad. Really now denying global warming is like saying smoking doesn't cause cancer or denying the holocaust happened or denying that our own government probably spies on us from time to time.
Check this out where it says "today" on the chart. That's us. Everything else was before that. Those other cycles that you see are before us and were usually cased by impacts of asteroids of a certain size. Each time life carried on with just 1% left in some cases. It wasn't just the dinosaurs. There was worse than that before them. So, I guess if you want snakes and lizards to get bigger and more numerous and mammals to be smaller and less numerous (maybe down to rat size), then you could present global warming as a good thing. There might still be a few humans left if we don't go to war over all of the social changes that this will cause too. The next global war if there is one will probably do us in for good. Of course there are a lot of variables that haven't been studied, small mistakes, but nothing to change my views on the overall picture here.
We should be having that argument, It has been settled. Now the thing to argue over is how fast we are going to do something to try to fix the problem and live happy ever after. The end.
--Greenland was upon a time was warm enough to be farm land.--
To when are you referring? The Vikings didn't stay. You could probably grow things there today. Did you know that methane gas is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2, yet I quit farting. So hold your farts and you might get credit for something. Maybe go for a Guinness world record? Maybe there is nothing we can do but see how fast we can screw things up. Maybe we have passed the tipping point already, and let's say that 99% of the human race dies.. We'll that 1% has to carry on for another 200 years minimum. We'll I guess everything comes to an end sooner or later. We'll get ready this is it..........
I would have said that too. Nothing better, plausible deniability. But, I fear they(M$) might be telling the truth. Now what is the world coming to? Strange days are upon us for sure. So I think they are lying, but why. We'll "you caught me, now what do you want" might have been cooler. M$ is going to have to starting kicking some ass and start taking names if they are going to slow their downward spiral. Right now there is another Google out there? Where?
--There are too many instances of "we can't think of any other reason, so this must be man-made global warming", or "we have never seen this before, and we don't know what's causing it, but we're certain it's human emissions". I'm sorry, but you're just ruining your credibility as a scientist when stating you don't understand it, then in the same sentence claim to be an authority able to state the cause.--
They can think of other reason it's just they have proof by this reason:
Man made CO2 has more Carbon 13 in it (I thought we all knew this by now). The years can be told by things like tree rings for instance. That's how they know dip do, I can't figure out how you have so many supporters, especially from/.
---I'd also believe you guys more if you could come up with a rational explanation for the massive hoax being perpetrated on the innocent public by the 90% or so of scientist who claim that Global Warming is happening and is caused by man. I've yet to hear anyone come up with a reasonable theory as to why these evil scientists would be doing such a thing. I hear can think of plenty of simple, logical reasons why the oil & coal companies would deny it, though...---
AND....they (the scientists 90%) gave us something the other side has not given us. Data...good data that the CO2 is man made and oh now BTW it's a solid fact that carbon dioxide + water = carbolic acid and therefore is killing and has killed a hell of a lot of fish. The reef systems may be gone in as little as 20 years. The other side of the argument doesn't present data that makes any sense.
--In any case, most models show that even a rather dramatic altering of CO2 emissions will not alter the course of climate change for a minimum of 200 years. Even if we stopped now, the glaciers are still going to melt. The CO2 is already in the air.--
You sir, are probably right. It looks like the end of the world. Maybe before 200 years someone would work on and fix the CO2 already being in the etc. We have to at least try to survive.
Winter was a bitch though. I remember that and the flooding. I also remember a few people rebelling against disco. The next year ACDC pretty much put a nail in the coffin of disco hopefully to never return. Iran hostages, 1979 was a bad year and 1980 even worse. Stagflation with 20% interest rates on a home mortgage, yeah man were them the days. Reagan didn't do much for the economy although we felt better about him than Carter because he kicked a little ass once in a while, but he didn't take the reigns until 1980. 1980 is really the year everything changed too. From the late 70's to the early 80's, tech was on a roll. And then, we'll, it all came to an end. I guess I would like to go back to the 1990's most of all. That's when things were still fun and I was also very good at anything I tried. If you could turn a computer on, you had a job.
--Wealth is not a zero-sum game. It's more like lighting candles- if I light your candle, I still have my flame. The generation of wealth is very real and quite possible to prove within a paragraph or two. I'll leave it to you to consider for the moment.--
They really don't generate anything other than what was already here. It just changes form and that is all. Like right now carbon in the ground is being sent to atmosphere by us. So every thing on this earth is zero sum in the end. Rich or poor, you will die someday, and then before long it was like you never even existed. It is a shame to keep wealth only to a certain group of people because of who they are not what they can do. When 90% of the wealth is held by less than 1% of the population, then you know it's mostly because of class and rags to riches stories are for the most part pure BS.
Yeah, back then they were starting to get a lock on BASIC. Their BASIC was usually better than the BASIC that might have come from the computer manufacturer AND they had a Microsoft Basic for just about every machine. This was before the deal with IBM. Back then IBM was considered evil and Microsoft good. How time and money change things? All kids could use BASIC a little bit. You might have even had the chance back then to write something useful with it. Yep, they were getting a lock on the micro computer language market. You could get the source code to just about anything. M$ now is running into the very same problem every tech company since the beginning has been in. They are too big. Google is even getting that way and they don't seem as good as they once did back in 1998 either.
How could they NOT have the rights in the first place? Do they not know what they are doing? It's a mistake that should be permanently corrected. And, hey big companies, why the DRM? It can always be defeated not affecting piracy one bit, but gets in the way for Mr. average customer and I think in today's environment, you need the customers more than they need you. So don't treat them like thieves and most will not be thieves. But, treat people that way, and they are liable to quit stealing alright and buying also.
--And according to this news, it will be unlikely what anyone will be able to decipher your handwriting by then : )--
Yeah, they will. It's not the dead sea scrolls or anything. Wood based paper can break down after 100 years. 100% rag can probably last 1000 years at a minimum, and Lord only knows if he has it on Mylar? The thing is with digital data you can keep it forever as long as their is power enough to make more copies every so often. Then the risk of fire damage is diminished if you have more than one copy in more than one place. I used to know an outfit that wrote stuff on paper and scanned it straight to PDF. I don't know how they will ever find stuff in the future nor do I care because the data is really NOT THAT important. They think it is. Paper storage would be enough or data but doing both is extremely over thinking the problem most of the time because what you write down will not be important or at least not as important as typed stuff. The signature will probably be chucked by the thumb print or we could all be dead in a massive fireball in the future. The thing about it is, you just don't know, can't know, and never will have it all figured out. We'll that's all my short story is over for now.
In 20 years there probably will not be too many car companies of any kind. Right now you have 1 billion in the first world more or less. 2 billion people is what we are going to see in 20 more years min. at the rate China and India are going.
China is building their highway system at breakneck speed. Their roads are a little wider than ours and things like that but it's based primarily on our interstate system. They are about where we were in the 60's. Man there ain't gonna be no more cars as we know them, because there wont be any oil left, and I didn't even touch on global climate change.
This is a problem that needs fixing and the ideas are there, but no one in the whole world has implemented any of it yet.
You wanna idea. Build lots and lots of nuke plant and run all transportation off of electricity. Don't worry about non proliferation. The bad stuff is plenty proliferated as it is. I would build breeders to cut down on the waste. To hell with worrying about it being weapons grade. All of the countries this applies too can already build the bomb.
I think they should have just been made to do what every other company does. Not a big M$ fan but who decides which browsers get to be on the ballot? This ain't 1996 and it's too late now. I would like to see more interoperability from the M$ servers and the clients. Like if you have a Windows server you can't afford to replace but want to replace your clients then you have to kludge things to get that to work. This really locks in small businesses to using their total solution. I guess Apple is the same in fact, but I don't know too many people that use their servers.
Slashdot Mirror
1.) Homeless
2.) Buy laptop or better yet cabbage it.
3.) Go to free spot and fire up Botnet.
4.) Finally, profit.
5.) Get whacked by Russian mafia ;-(
There is definitely something I'm not getting here.
Hey I might be able to make you a deal for that property in the mountains.
SPACE WAR!
Except I would have real stuff like the Russians and The US had to play with like nukes. So, I would turn it into a massive multi player strategy action adventure drama comedy science fiction game or just MMPSAADCSFG for short. Whaddya think? Could I patent it?
So, are you saying Windows is not done until Adobe is broke, so that people will use M$ stuff instead? They have done that before. I don't think Adobe is at fault, since the same problem appears many times for them, but no issues on Silverlight. Interesting, Adobe works on the Mac and Linux flawlessly. So it's got to be the evil empire again. Look out for the fine they are going to get now. WOW.
In all seriousness, couldn't this happen with any OS as JAVA is cross platform. And,....we'll for Windows users just leave that stuff disabled. They re-enable it, and then they have computer problems. I fix, wash, rinse, repeat, for the consumer until his money or patience wears out or if it becomes a problem at the corporate level, I just "Block, Lock and Monitor". Whadda they need to be doing going to "Flash Sites" in the first place. What could they possibly learn from that will help the company? PDF's we'll now they ARE used a lot by us, but they have never cause trouble because people don't fool with them unless it's necessary and most PDF's are created "in house". The rest come from sites like irs.gov and places like that while possibly being compromised are not likely to be because who would care? What would they even get except DRM'd Apple music saved to "My Documents" shadowed to the server. God I wish I could clue them in about Apple having non drm'd music, without causing too much trouble. But you know how that is? Sooo.....I predict if Linux becomes real popular for the desktop, then FireFox would be judged by the public to be poor, because it will not work on some weird home town banking site that says it requires IE5. Most smaller places will not switch unless their current setup breaks because of age.
No we didn't, did we, so I say fight. Read on.
I'm on a roll, yee ha.
M$ started out as the good guys. In fact they were all good except one who fell to the dark side. Soon others followed. Now, those in the light there are few. They are mostly machines now. Not much human left in them. Then the rebels went out onto the internet to hide. We'll the dark lord wanted this real bad. Everyone had to use Windows 3.1 back then. Then the dark Windows 95 came out and it looked like another rebel OS. The rebels attacked, but the dark lord paid little and by changing a trash can to recycling one. They still seemed good to many. Then the mighty rebel Netscape tried to fight at first and then they ran after IE was given away with windows 95 for free.
Now, fast forward to today, their empire is a paper tiger just ready to be blown away by a strong wind. Now, meanwhile our hero...We'll did you think I was gonna tell it all. You gotta pay to read the book.
--How did coral reefs survive periods when CO2 was several times higher than today?--
They were not there as such. Tho whole biosphere was way different then. That would probably be around the time coal was formed. I think this would be about right, but then again are you a climatologist? I'm not, but I had enough chemistry to know that making seawater more acidic and reducing it's salinity by the melting of the ice caps, cannot be good at all. It will do some very nasty things that CO2 in the air alone would not bother, but when you send it up much goes into the oceans. Just let a coke go flat and test the PH of the water. That's as plain and simple as simple could be. Heat of course cause the ice to melt. We'll you know it wont kill everything, just 90% to 99% of all life possibly all people, but it really doesn't matter, because war over fossil fuels can change present allies into enemies. So if you want to talk about burning fossil fuels. We will not be able to do that cheaply for long anyhow. You wanna talk cost. Pay a lot now or go bankrupt tomorrow. Fossil fuels should probably be only used to make stuff like certain plastics. It would last a long time if we just didn't burn them. It would be much much better to run all transportation off of electricity, and generate all of that with nukes. It's the fastest, cheapest, and not without flaws, but the best method that I can think of to fix things. We have to build many very fast. Lithium Ion battery tech is already good enough for transportation using the same highways and gas stations, but they would deliver electricity either by just swapping ISO standard component batteries or that follow some kind of standard from nation to nation. That would make it work with current tech. Some MIT students have batteries that charge in 15 minutes and will get you 300 miles of range, but that still just in the design stage. You know gas caps a nozzles follow a standard. So could battery packs for a car for distance traveling. Charge at home at night for going to work. Take a careful look at the data. It does really look bad. Really now denying global warming is like saying smoking doesn't cause cancer or denying the holocaust happened or denying that our own government probably spies on us from time to time.
Check this out where it says "today" on the chart. That's us. Everything else was before that. Those other cycles that you see are before us and were usually cased by impacts of asteroids of a certain size. Each time life carried on with just 1% left in some cases. It wasn't just the dinosaurs. There was worse than that before them. So, I guess if you want snakes and lizards to get bigger and more numerous and mammals to be smaller and less numerous (maybe down to rat size), then you could present global warming as a good thing. There might still be a few humans left if we don't go to war over all of the social changes that this will cause too. The next global war if there is one will probably do us in for good. Of course there are a lot of variables that haven't been studied, small mistakes, but nothing to change my views on the overall picture here.
We should be having that argument, It has been settled. Now the thing to argue over is how fast we are going to do something to try to fix the problem and live happy ever after. The end.
Hope ya'll liked the story.
http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
--Greenland was upon a time was warm enough to be farm land.--
To when are you referring? The Vikings didn't stay. You could probably grow things there today. Did you know that methane gas is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2, yet I quit farting. So hold your farts and you might get credit for something. Maybe go for a Guinness world record? Maybe there is nothing we can do but see how fast we can screw things up. Maybe we have passed the tipping point already, and let's say that 99% of the human race dies.. We'll that 1% has to carry on for another 200 years minimum. We'll I guess everything comes to an end sooner or later. We'll get ready this is it..........
Hell no, and did we surrender to Germans at Perl Harbor? Hell no! No surrender to M$. That's what I say.
I would have said that too. Nothing better, plausible deniability. But, I fear they(M$) might be telling the truth. Now what is the world coming to? Strange days are upon us for sure. So I think they are lying, but why. We'll "you caught me, now what do you want" might have been cooler. M$ is going to have to starting kicking some ass and start taking names if they are going to slow their downward spiral. Right now there is another Google out there? Where?
--There are too many instances of "we can't think of any other reason, so this must be man-made global warming", or "we have never seen this before, and we don't know what's causing it, but we're certain it's human emissions". I'm sorry, but you're just ruining your credibility as a scientist when stating you don't understand it, then in the same sentence claim to be an authority able to state the cause.--
They can think of other reason it's just they have proof by this reason:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/01/increasing-atmospheric-co2-manmade%E2%80%A6or-natural/
Man made CO2 has more Carbon 13 in it (I thought we all knew this by now). The years can be told by things like tree rings for instance. That's how they know dip do, I can't figure out how you have so many supporters, especially from /.
---I'd also believe you guys more if you could come up with a rational explanation for the massive hoax being perpetrated on the innocent public by the 90% or so of scientist who claim that Global Warming is happening and is caused by man. I've yet to hear anyone come up with a reasonable theory as to why these evil scientists would be doing such a thing. I hear can think of plenty of simple, logical reasons why the oil & coal companies would deny it, though...---
AND....they (the scientists 90%) gave us something the other side has not given us. Data...good data that the CO2 is man made and oh now BTW it's a solid fact that carbon dioxide + water = carbolic acid and therefore is killing and has killed a hell of a lot of fish. The reef systems may be gone in as little as 20 years. The other side of the argument doesn't present data that makes any sense.
--The more complex you are, the more you cost.--
E=MC^2
I understand now. I think it is exponential too.
--In any case, most models show that even a rather dramatic altering of CO2 emissions will not alter the course of climate change for a minimum of 200 years. Even if we stopped now, the glaciers are still going to melt. The CO2 is already in the air.--
You sir, are probably right. It looks like the end of the world. Maybe before 200 years someone would work on and fix the CO2 already being in the etc. We have to at least try to survive.
--raw materials + human effort = product + wealth--
You could just as easily have said this:
tobacco (Jamestown America) + human effort = dope
dope = wealth
It would not matter. We don't seem to important to the way the rest of the universe operates or anything.
--Where does the effort humans constantly add into the world figure into your equation?--
I don't know but the historical record doesn't look that well right now. Hopefully, we can do better because we must.
What didn't you really agree with?
Winter was a bitch though. I remember that and the flooding. I also remember a few people rebelling against disco. The next year ACDC pretty much put a nail in the coffin of disco hopefully to never return. Iran hostages, 1979 was a bad year and 1980 even worse. Stagflation with 20% interest rates on a home mortgage, yeah man were them the days. Reagan didn't do much for the economy although we felt better about him than Carter because he kicked a little ass once in a while, but he didn't take the reigns until 1980. 1980 is really the year everything changed too. From the late 70's to the early 80's, tech was on a roll. And then, we'll, it all came to an end. I guess I would like to go back to the 1990's most of all. That's when things were still fun and I was also very good at anything I tried. If you could turn a computer on, you had a job.
--Wealth is not a zero-sum game. It's more like lighting candles- if I light your candle, I still have my flame. The generation of wealth is very real and quite possible to prove within a paragraph or two. I'll leave it to you to consider for the moment.--
They really don't generate anything other than what was already here. It just changes form and that is all. Like right now carbon in the ground is being sent to atmosphere by us. So every thing on this earth is zero sum in the end. Rich or poor, you will die someday, and then before long it was like you never even existed. It is a shame to keep wealth only to a certain group of people because of who they are not what they can do. When 90% of the wealth is held by less than 1% of the population, then you know it's mostly because of class and rags to riches stories are for the most part pure BS.
Yeah, back then they were starting to get a lock on BASIC. Their BASIC was usually better than the BASIC that might have come from the computer manufacturer AND they had a Microsoft Basic for just about every machine. This was before the deal with IBM. Back then IBM was considered evil and Microsoft good. How time and money change things? All kids could use BASIC a little bit. You might have even had the chance back then to write something useful with it. Yep, they were getting a lock on the micro computer language market. You could get the source code to just about anything. M$ now is running into the very same problem every tech company since the beginning has been in. They are too big. Google is even getting that way and they don't seem as good as they once did back in 1998 either.
Yeah, that's right they should offer that option. It sure as hell would make them look beter.
How could they NOT have the rights in the first place? Do they not know what they are doing? It's a mistake that should be permanently corrected. And, hey big companies, why the DRM? It can always be defeated not affecting piracy one bit, but gets in the way for Mr. average customer and I think in today's environment, you need the customers more than they need you. So don't treat them like thieves and most will not be thieves. But, treat people that way, and they are liable to quit stealing alright and buying also.
--And according to this news, it will be unlikely what anyone will be able to decipher your handwriting by then : )--
Yeah, they will. It's not the dead sea scrolls or anything. Wood based paper can break down after 100 years. 100% rag can probably last 1000 years at a minimum, and Lord only knows if he has it on Mylar? The thing is with digital data you can keep it forever as long as their is power enough to make more copies every so often. Then the risk of fire damage is diminished if you have more than one copy in more than one place. I used to know an outfit that wrote stuff on paper and scanned it straight to PDF. I don't know how they will ever find stuff in the future nor do I care because the data is really NOT THAT important. They think it is. Paper storage would be enough or data but doing both is extremely over thinking the problem most of the time because what you write down will not be important or at least not as important as typed stuff. The signature will probably be chucked by the thumb print or we could all be dead in a massive fireball in the future. The thing about it is, you just don't know, can't know, and never will have it all figured out. We'll that's all my short story is over for now.
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But lough, the pen is mightier than the gathering basket and the hunting spear.
In 20 years there probably will not be too many car companies of any kind. Right now you have 1 billion in the first world more or less. 2 billion people is what we are going to see in 20 more years min. at the rate China and India are going.
China is building their highway system at breakneck speed. Their roads are a little wider than ours and things like that but it's based primarily on our interstate system. They are about where we were in the 60's. Man there ain't gonna be no more cars as we know them, because there wont be any oil left, and I didn't even touch on global climate change.
This is a problem that needs fixing and the ideas are there, but no one in the whole world has implemented any of it yet.
You wanna idea. Build lots and lots of nuke plant and run all transportation off of electricity. Don't worry about non proliferation. The bad stuff is plenty proliferated as it is. I would build breeders to cut down on the waste. To hell with worrying about it being weapons grade. All of the countries this applies too can already build the bomb.
Yeah, and maybe add Mosaic after IE. We don't want to leave that out you know.
I think they should have just been made to do what every other company does. Not a big M$ fan but who decides which browsers get to be on the ballot? This ain't 1996 and it's too late now. I would like to see more interoperability from the M$ servers and the clients. Like if you have a Windows server you can't afford to replace but want to replace your clients then you have to kludge things to get that to work. This really locks in small businesses to using their total solution. I guess Apple is the same in fact, but I don't know too many people that use their servers.
What does Stallman mean by meandering giants? Bill gates couldn't whip me because I have a sling.