There's no jury out, there is a small correlation between second hand smoke (or passive smoking) and an increase in some problems. However the data sets used in these studies are so small they aren't statistically relevant. IE: There is NO accepted proof that second hand smoke does anything (not even asthma attacks). Zip zero, nada. Won't find anything in a respected medical journal because the RR isn't high enough. Passive smoking bans are not to protect non-smokers but encourage smokers to quit and stigmatize them. One flawed EPA study is the basis for almost all passive smoking bans.
Grandparent poster, Have you ever had to modify code that's even in the hundreds of thousands of lines, and poorly documented? How long does it take before your familiar enough with it to modify it? A week, two weeks? A month? Even with appropriate documentation, large sections of code contain concepts that you may not be familiar with and this increases the delay until you can competently modify or patch it.
You have the source, sure, but do you understand it? Can you modify and fix it? Even a quick hack takes time to figure out where to put it in, a little thought, and this is working independantly and without any procedures.
When you need a solution now, even if you have a lot of software people, it takes time before they'll be able to competently patch it. Time you probably don't have. Keeping people on hand who know every bit of software you run may be an option but it's prohibitively expensive, especially if you're not a software company. It may be in the cards for the future however.
The kernel is huge, but with your superior grokking skills, I'm sure we can expect you to perfect it within the next few months right? Then you can work on making X11 as good as proprietary X-servers.
Having the source, does not fault-proof and easily fixable a program make. It just makes it possible to fix it. It's also possible that I'll win the lottery tommorrow however.
The two high-end OSes (Windows 2003 Server and Redhat Advanced Server) can do a lot of the same things. If your OS can't do what Jim Bob in management wants, it's not going to be purchased.
They did a bad comparison of "enterprise" class systems (and god do I hate that buzzword) without including any of the real "enterprise" class OSes (Solaris, AIX, etc.).
Look, I can make claims without any facts or basis too, Linux isn't in the same league as Solaris or AIX.
I'm assuming you meant to say "liar." The preview button is your friend. Oh, and software installation is generally a simple task in Windows, and a difficult one (from source) on Linux.
Configuration is generally easier (arguably not a simple task) in a Unix or Linux environment and more difficult in Windows.
Automation and scripting are about as easy on both, with Linux and UNIX coming out a little ahead due to the absolutely amazing variety of scripting shells and languages. You can install Perl on Windows though and that really helps.
Security is about the same, although it's a lot tougher to do useful things with Windows and keep it secured.
Development (definately not a simple task) is far easier on Linux then anything else besides Unix, then again what do you expect... who made it? Developers, for, mainly at first, developer.
No, I don't like admining Windows, and I don't like using Windows it doesn't suit my style and tastes. I don't like being bound to a GUI and I prefer a command line because I type far faster then I can "mouse." Registry editing I find a pain in the ass, and I don't like the file layout and lack of powerful command line tools like grep. I'm also a system control freak, everything must be in the "right" place, it must be configed in the "right" way, etc.
I can generally do things faster in Linux or Unix (and when I say Unix I refer to Solaris) then I can in Windows. This isn't from a lack of familiarity, but rather the way Windows administration conflicts with my style.
The MCSE is indeed the most overrated cert in the IT industry right now. I've met more clueless paper-MCSEs then I have clueless A+ techs. As another poster noted, Unix or Linux people tend to be Admins/something, Windows people tend to be Admins/Tech Support if they have a slash at all.
Ok, back to mindless zealotism. [Linux zealot]VB is the computing equivalent to Herpes and IIS is the internet equivalent to HIV! BLARG! Unix admins are a race of master IT staffers![/Linux zealot]
Oh wait, I didn't mispell enough there to qualify for my fake zealot tags...
There are other window managers other then Gnome and KDE, but it's a hassle to install them. You can also replace the X Server with a faster X Server (costing money) if it's too slow.
Hmm, but anyway, I was just curious what about Windows makes it less tedious and easier to use for you?
Usage, yes, any liscense should be fine for government usage(bar some extremes), but for development it should be fair, free and open to everyone or noone (except the institution that made it).
For government funded software, the liscense used should be something like BSD. Companies pay taxes too, why can't they profit from those dollars (or in this case pounds).
Money spent on software funds development of that software, so this proposal would preclude the purchase of any software not under the BSD liscense (or a workalike).
Damn, don't be so reactionary. Yes, it's not open. It will be cracked and be readable under linux eventually. You can't use NTFS right now cross-platform, neither can you use just about any Linux or Unix FS cross-platform.
Win2K does the same thing (at least my CD), it won't let you format as FAT32, only NTFS. This is easily worked around.
Read the liscense, it's very similar to BSD. Similar rights, etc. I'll have to study them both, but I'm sure there are reasons they didn't use a prior liscense.
Security that works (err, was supposed to work?) through intimidation: The Windows 9x login prompt. I don't know how many end users I talked through hitting escape there during my days on a helpdesk.
If you are going to be defending someone's intelligence (or in this case an institution's intelligence), it is generally a good idea to format, spell check, and be mostly grammatically correct. Capitalization helps too, but it's not required.
Ad hominem attacks are bad form as well, shame on you.
College degree, I've got two, does this make me two times smarter than your average officer? How much smarter does that make me than your average auto mechanic? I should get some kind of special treatment for my massive braincase since it's so stuffed full of educational goodness.
I should go get some PhDs, if I wrack up enough I'll be the smartest man in the world.
Now, I could go about refuting your points, as I have seen several studies that rate the military's average intelligence rather low(at about 2 below average for enlisted, 5 above for officer [which is 5 below college grad average]), but I just don't see the point in doing so. Your defense speaks volumes about both you and your cause.
And yes, I hate the military alright... hate them to their very corps. Damn those GIs and their "I'm shipping out tommorrow" pick-up lines.
PS: There is something called sarcism in this post but I'm not going to reveal where.
Diablo is a direct descendant of Nethack (or Hack), which is in itself derived from Rogue, which is a descendant of adventure.
You could also say diablo is a 3rd person Dungeon Hack (a D&D self-generating game which is obviously based off of Hack). First person interface, IIRC was first seen in either an Ultima, or this weird Wizard game.
Mario (the original), I think, was truly original, I don't remember a side-scroller before it of it's nature.
Adventure also spawned (provided the inspiration for) Sierra games (per a past games.slashdot article which had an interview with Ken Williams), which created the adventure gaming genre. This then bled over into a crossover with the FPS genre (pioneered as we know it I think with either Wolfenstein or this older ID game involving wizards and fireballs) into the groundbraking Half-Life.
Pshhaw, everything originated on mainframes, and to mainframes (yea, get that kind of power out of a windows or linux server buddy) it will eventually return.
You're off-topic and should be modded as such, but I'll bite.
The Iraqi war, alright, there aren't any weapons of mass destruction, so it was unjustified. We "liberated" the Iraqi people, and for an actual Iraqi's views on the ongoing process, I suggest you go here. There are still places without infrastructure, running water, or aid, for months after the precision bombings. The actual war, which lasted 2 months, killed approximately 5,000 people (and we'll see actual casualty figures in a few months), or 2,000 more then died on September 11th. Saddam, would have killed approximately (based off of 1,000,000 over 30 years) 5,500 during the same time period. Ignoring the continuing unexploded ordinance and malnutrition problems, the secondary goal (not the one that was in ANY SENSE, internationally legal, nor the one the war was sold on) has been arguably met.
Hard-line religious bigotry, like Jerry Falwell? Like the zealots who bomb abortion clinics? Where are the terrorism charges against the far-right insane anti-abortion activists who bomb clinics and intimidate? Conversely, where are those same charges against the far-left whacko environmentalists who spike trees and intimidate? Have we only room to judge Arabs, what about problems at home and domestic "terrorists", those who harbor them and those who support them? Or are they freedom fighters for trees and the unborn this week like al-qaeda was when the conservatives were pumping money into the organization so they could fight the soviets?
When prayer is said in schools, when teachers wear symbols of their faith on the job, does this not condone that faith. From on high, an authority figure giving credence to something very personal. Is the employee not representative of the employer? Is the President not always on the job? Didn't the conservatives butt all up into Clinton's personal life? The irony of this never ceases to amaze me. Seperation of Church and State is crucial to the existance of a civilized society. Disagree? History teaches otherwise, the large messes and excesses of the catholic church dominated political scene of the dark ages says otherwise. The reasons this country exists says otherwise.
What possible motivation could one have other than evangelism to openly declare their faith as a government employee? Evangelism is not acceptable from a government figure. You want a religious country, with deeply entrenched religious ideals, convert to Islam and move to Iran, or convert to Catholicism and move to Vatican City. God has no place in government, whether he be Allah, Jehovah, or a Platypus. In fact, I'd wager a guess to say that Jesus himself would say not to wear a cross. According to uncannonized scriptures, he even says not to go to church, and to keep religion a private matter between close friends and family. What do I know though, right?
This is not your father's country. This is not the cold-war era either, although those in power would love to make it so. Things have changed quite a bit since the turn of the century. There is no Hitler, no move for eugenics, no witch-hunting. No condoned discrimination against people for the color of their skin. There's been a failed war, a series of successful conflicts. A liberal backlash at the excesses of conservatism, and a conservative backlach at the excesses of liberalism.
Yea, I love this country, I can say things far nastier and I'm patriotically exercising my right to free speech by doing so. Call me unamerican and prove yourself a jingoistic faux patriot.
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You already can due to fundamental flaws in the Win API. It's called a shatter attack.
Do you have the faintest idea what the private keyword was designed to do?
Access control had nothing really to do with, it was primarily put into place to prevent some idiot from overwriting a crucial function or changing the type of data (IE static array to double linked list) and causing your program to crash.
I'm not to up on C#, but in C++ there are already ways to circumvent private and protected class members, and I assume this is also true in Java. You just don't do it unless you really know what you're doing. In C++ you could use pointer arithmetic, modified header, hell even the inline assembler.
If you want to make sure no one can access your private members, use C, there's no way to do so.
Posting w/o the karma bonus because I may end up drifting into idiocy (hard day at work).
I recently got a puppy, so I've been researching how to best socialize her, and I read something about how wolf cubs will forget early experiences (pup years) after several months, but once used to a species or situation in adulthood they will retain this forever. Versus a dog, who will retain a certain level of "used to"ness for the rest of their lives if exposed during the first 12 weeks of life.
I'd love for google to include scientific journals, but they all cost money, so we're forced to rely on the mainstream media for info (with all that entails).
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There's no jury out, there is a small correlation between second hand smoke (or passive smoking) and an increase in some problems. However the data sets used in these studies are so small they aren't statistically relevant. IE: There is NO accepted proof that second hand smoke does anything (not even asthma attacks). Zip zero, nada. Won't find anything in a respected medical journal because the RR isn't high enough. Passive smoking bans are not to protect non-smokers but encourage smokers to quit and stigmatize them. One flawed EPA study is the basis for almost all passive smoking bans.
Very well said.
When dealing with a Vendor, you have guaranteed access to the people that wrote and understand the code, and who will fix problems for you.
When using open source, you do not, but you can fix the problems yourself. It's going to take more time to do this however.
Completely depends on your needs and what type of "support" you want.
Just something in support of your argument.
Grandparent poster, Have you ever had to modify code that's even in the hundreds of thousands of lines, and poorly documented? How long does it take before your familiar enough with it to modify it? A week, two weeks? A month? Even with appropriate documentation, large sections of code contain concepts that you may not be familiar with and this increases the delay until you can competently modify or patch it.
You have the source, sure, but do you understand it? Can you modify and fix it? Even a quick hack takes time to figure out where to put it in, a little thought, and this is working independantly and without any procedures.
When you need a solution now, even if you have a lot of software people, it takes time before they'll be able to competently patch it. Time you probably don't have. Keeping people on hand who know every bit of software you run may be an option but it's prohibitively expensive, especially if you're not a software company. It may be in the cards for the future however.
The kernel is huge, but with your superior grokking skills, I'm sure we can expect you to perfect it within the next few months right? Then you can work on making X11 as good as proprietary X-servers.
Having the source, does not fault-proof and easily fixable a program make. It just makes it possible to fix it. It's also possible that I'll win the lottery tommorrow however.
What criteria are you basing this on?
Clustering, what?
The two high-end OSes (Windows 2003 Server and Redhat Advanced Server) can do a lot of the same things. If your OS can't do what Jim Bob in management wants, it's not going to be purchased.
They did a bad comparison of "enterprise" class systems (and god do I hate that buzzword) without including any of the real "enterprise" class OSes (Solaris, AIX, etc.).
Look, I can make claims without any facts or basis too, Linux isn't in the same league as Solaris or AIX.
Now would you care to elaborate?
I'm assuming you meant to say "liar." The preview button is your friend. Oh, and software installation is generally a simple task in Windows, and a difficult one (from source) on Linux.
Configuration is generally easier (arguably not a simple task) in a Unix or Linux environment and more difficult in Windows.
Automation and scripting are about as easy on both, with Linux and UNIX coming out a little ahead due to the absolutely amazing variety of scripting shells and languages. You can install Perl on Windows though and that really helps.
Security is about the same, although it's a lot tougher to do useful things with Windows and keep it secured.
Development (definately not a simple task) is far easier on Linux then anything else besides Unix, then again what do you expect... who made it? Developers, for, mainly at first, developer.
No, I don't like admining Windows, and I don't like using Windows it doesn't suit my style and tastes. I don't like being bound to a GUI and I prefer a command line because I type far faster then I can "mouse." Registry editing I find a pain in the ass, and I don't like the file layout and lack of powerful command line tools like grep. I'm also a system control freak, everything must be in the "right" place, it must be configed in the "right" way, etc.
I can generally do things faster in Linux or Unix (and when I say Unix I refer to Solaris) then I can in Windows. This isn't from a lack of familiarity, but rather the way Windows administration conflicts with my style.
The MCSE is indeed the most overrated cert in the IT industry right now. I've met more clueless paper-MCSEs then I have clueless A+ techs. As another poster noted, Unix or Linux people tend to be Admins/something, Windows people tend to be Admins/Tech Support if they have a slash at all.
Ok, back to mindless zealotism. [Linux zealot]VB is the computing equivalent to Herpes and IIS is the internet equivalent to HIV! BLARG! Unix admins are a race of master IT staffers![/Linux zealot]
Oh wait, I didn't mispell enough there to qualify for my fake zealot tags...
There are other window managers other then Gnome and KDE, but it's a hassle to install them. You can also replace the X Server with a faster X Server (costing money) if it's too slow.
Hmm, but anyway, I was just curious what about Windows makes it less tedious and easier to use for you?
for government funded software development.
Usage, yes, any liscense should be fine for government usage(bar some extremes), but for development it should be fair, free and open to everyone or noone (except the institution that made it).
For government funded software, the liscense used should be something like BSD. Companies pay taxes too, why can't they profit from those dollars (or in this case pounds).
Money spent on software funds development of that software, so this proposal would preclude the purchase of any software not under the BSD liscense (or a workalike).
In summary of the parent. Nothing new here, move along.
Damn, don't be so reactionary. Yes, it's not open. It will be cracked and be readable under linux eventually. You can't use NTFS right now cross-platform, neither can you use just about any Linux or Unix FS cross-platform.
Win2K does the same thing (at least my CD), it won't let you format as FAT32, only NTFS. This is easily worked around.
Read the liscense, it's very similar to BSD. Similar rights, etc. I'll have to study them both, but I'm sure there are reasons they didn't use a prior liscense.
Security that works (err, was supposed to work?) through intimidation: The Windows 9x login prompt. I don't know how many end users I talked through hitting escape there during my days on a helpdesk.
Revoking all AIX liscenses would cost lives. National Weather Service also does weather warnings, tornados, flooding, etc.
Yep, corporate spat that could kill people. Joy.
Remember the jargon from way back when? A PC was a different thing entirely than an Apple (I blame IBM and their IBM PC).
Or at least where I lived if you told an Apple user they had a PC they'd go ballistic.
If you are going to be defending someone's intelligence (or in this case an institution's intelligence), it is generally a good idea to format, spell check, and be mostly grammatically correct. Capitalization helps too, but it's not required.
Ad hominem attacks are bad form as well, shame on you.
College degree, I've got two, does this make me two times smarter than your average officer? How much smarter does that make me than your average auto mechanic? I should get some kind of special treatment for my massive braincase since it's so stuffed full of educational goodness.
I should go get some PhDs, if I wrack up enough I'll be the smartest man in the world.
Now, I could go about refuting your points, as I have seen several studies that rate the military's average intelligence rather low(at about 2 below average for enlisted, 5 above for officer [which is 5 below college grad average]), but I just don't see the point in doing so. Your defense speaks volumes about both you and your cause.
And yes, I hate the military alright... hate them to their very corps. Damn those GIs and their "I'm shipping out tommorrow" pick-up lines.
PS: There is something called sarcism in this post but I'm not going to reveal where.
Linus isn't in the US.
There was no usenet cabal either...
I knew what you meant, I was just being a sarcastic prick. :-)
Diablo is a direct descendant of Nethack (or Hack), which is in itself derived from Rogue, which is a descendant of adventure.
You could also say diablo is a 3rd person Dungeon Hack (a D&D self-generating game which is obviously based off of Hack). First person interface, IIRC was first seen in either an Ultima, or this weird Wizard game.
Mario (the original), I think, was truly original, I don't remember a side-scroller before it of it's nature.
Adventure also spawned (provided the inspiration for) Sierra games (per a past games.slashdot article which had an interview with Ken Williams), which created the adventure gaming genre. This then bled over into a crossover with the FPS genre (pioneered as we know it I think with either Wolfenstein or this older ID game involving wizards and fireballs) into the groundbraking Half-Life.
Pshhaw, everything originated on mainframes, and to mainframes (yea, get that kind of power out of a windows or linux server buddy) it will eventually return.
You're off-topic and should be modded as such, but I'll bite.
The Iraqi war, alright, there aren't any weapons of mass destruction, so it was unjustified. We "liberated" the Iraqi people, and for an actual Iraqi's views on the ongoing process, I suggest you go here. There are still places without infrastructure, running water, or aid, for months after the precision bombings. The actual war, which lasted 2 months, killed approximately 5,000 people (and we'll see actual casualty figures in a few months), or 2,000 more then died on September 11th. Saddam, would have killed approximately (based off of 1,000,000 over 30 years) 5,500 during the same time period. Ignoring the continuing unexploded ordinance and malnutrition problems, the secondary goal (not the one that was in ANY SENSE, internationally legal, nor the one the war was sold on) has been arguably met.
Hard-line religious bigotry, like Jerry Falwell? Like the zealots who bomb abortion clinics? Where are the terrorism charges against the far-right insane anti-abortion activists who bomb clinics and intimidate? Conversely, where are those same charges against the far-left whacko environmentalists who spike trees and intimidate? Have we only room to judge Arabs, what about problems at home and domestic "terrorists", those who harbor them and those who support them? Or are they freedom fighters for trees and the unborn this week like al-qaeda was when the conservatives were pumping money into the organization so they could fight the soviets?
When prayer is said in schools, when teachers wear symbols of their faith on the job, does this not condone that faith. From on high, an authority figure giving credence to something very personal. Is the employee not representative of the employer? Is the President not always on the job? Didn't the conservatives butt all up into Clinton's personal life? The irony of this never ceases to amaze me. Seperation of Church and State is crucial to the existance of a civilized society. Disagree? History teaches otherwise, the large messes and excesses of the catholic church dominated political scene of the dark ages says otherwise. The reasons this country exists says otherwise.
What possible motivation could one have other than evangelism to openly declare their faith as a government employee? Evangelism is not acceptable from a government figure. You want a religious country, with deeply entrenched religious ideals, convert to Islam and move to Iran, or convert to Catholicism and move to Vatican City. God has no place in government, whether he be Allah, Jehovah, or a Platypus. In fact, I'd wager a guess to say that Jesus himself would say not to wear a cross. According to uncannonized scriptures, he even says not to go to church, and to keep religion a private matter between close friends and family. What do I know though, right?
This is not your father's country. This is not the cold-war era either, although those in power would love to make it so. Things have changed quite a bit since the turn of the century. There is no Hitler, no move for eugenics, no witch-hunting. No condoned discrimination against people for the color of their skin. There's been a failed war, a series of successful conflicts. A liberal backlash at the excesses of conservatism, and a conservative backlach at the excesses of liberalism.
Yea, I love this country, I can say things far nastier and I'm patriotically exercising my right to free speech by doing so. Call me unamerican and prove yourself a jingoistic faux patriot.
You already can due to fundamental flaws in the Win API. It's called a shatter attack.
COBOL was designed IIRC so that non-programmers could understand it.
huh? C++? Most OSS programs I've seen are written in good old, plain vanilla C.
Are you saying something bad about K&R?
Do you have the faintest idea what the private keyword was designed to do?
Access control had nothing really to do with, it was primarily put into place to prevent some idiot from overwriting a crucial function or changing the type of data (IE static array to double linked list) and causing your program to crash.
I'm not to up on C#, but in C++ there are already ways to circumvent private and protected class members, and I assume this is also true in Java. You just don't do it unless you really know what you're doing. In C++ you could use pointer arithmetic, modified header, hell even the inline assembler.
If you want to make sure no one can access your private members, use C, there's no way to do so.
Posting w/o the karma bonus because I may end up drifting into idiocy (hard day at work).
I recently got a puppy, so I've been researching how to best socialize her, and I read something about how wolf cubs will forget early experiences (pup years) after several months, but once used to a species or situation in adulthood they will retain this forever. Versus a dog, who will retain a certain level of "used to"ness for the rest of their lives if exposed during the first 12 weeks of life.
I'd love for google to include scientific journals, but they all cost money, so we're forced to rely on the mainstream media for info (with all that entails).