It still has a cluncky UI from the early 90's. And a bad one at that.
It's not just the UI that sucks either. "Reply with attachment" -- why would anyone ever do that? Much less make it highest on the list of reply options and named just "reply" so you have to scroll down to "reply without attachment" to avoid sending an attachment right back to the person who just sent it! Sheer genius, that.
OK, and with my AT&T iphone I pay nothing extra (and overall far less than your $110/mo.) and get the same unlimited calls over VOIP wifi. What's the difference? I'm not following you.
First you said "I mean, is your time really worth that little that it's better to hassle with VoIP over data on a phone rather than pay a couple bucks more a month for decent service?" and "I'm not some twit that needs to have 1Mb data rates wirelessly, that needs to complain constantly about minutes used, etc. I mean, are there really that many cheap people out there who need to use their data plan with VoIP of Skype?" and even "I'd get over it dude. Even if you could put a VoIP app on your phone, the latency is horrible."
But now you say you're doing the same exact thing but are paying an extra $9/month for it? WTF? You're nuts man; either that or IHBT.
So I should not use a legal, workable service now that provides me an advantage because it may become unavailable in the future? Rather, I should use it never? How's that a win?
Well, that's because no reviewer has the funds to travel all over the US (or world) doing a "can you hear me now" test. And, there are only a few chipset and antenna designs in use these days, all of which have been tested in "idealized" isolation chambers and perform within 1-2% of each other.
If you live in some remote place or around intereference that makes that 1-2% difference matter, sorry: 99% of us don't, and the reviewers are catering to the majority.
So? It works, it's far cheaper, especially for international calls, and more and more people are doing it. They'll adapt. Why do you care what it's "engineered for?" (Assuming you're even right about that.)
Wow, let's see: (1) only "twits" want 1Mb data rates, and (2) only "cheap people" want unlimited free calling.
Sounds like you have more money than you know what to do with, and haven't figured out how to use the internet while mobile. So how about giving this "cheap twit" some free money?
(Actually: methinks thou dost protest too much. Sour grapes and all that. But don't worry -- your contract will expire in a few years and you can try again! I think you'll find that all mobile companies have pretty much equally shitty service. The trick is to never need it.)
I'm heavily leaning to Cellular One (I'm shopping for a provider having ditched AT&T) because they're free on nights and weekends.
Which US provider isn't free on nights and weekends?
That doesn't make sense, can anyone explain? Usually voice is cheap, it's the data that's expensive on a phone.
Not really. Voice is metered (X free minutes, $y per minute overage) while data is unlimited. And usually voice plans are more than data -- take the iphone: $40 for 450 minutes, $30 for unlimited data. Which is why having Truphone VOIP (just like skype) on the iphone is such a bargain. Unlimited super-cheap calling, even internationally. (Wifi only occifially, but if you jailbreak you can do VOIP over 3G for free.)
If you mean ringtones and games that you really rent since they expire and have to be re-bought in a month or three, yes. If you mean really like the apple app store with hundreds of free and useful apps, then no.
And in what way is it missing from the iphone, which has a fully-functioning web browser? Maybe missing from the "gmaps" app -- but works fine in safari
It's funny to hear someone with a T-mobile data plan (the slowest, both in terms of bandwidth and latency) in the US tell someone to forget using VOIP on a phone. 100-200ms latency is fine for VOIP; I use it every week in conference calls to save mobile minutes (no land line).
BTW, the (free) Truephone on iphone works great. Wifi only (without hacks) but that's a lot better than no VOIP at all.
Psst: there's more than one moderator! There are, in fact, thousands of them! To expect them all to behave the same is, well, rather silly. To get upset about a single moderation to your post here is, well, rather sad.
Not really. USB3.0 is 4.8Gbps, which works out to ~104 seconds for 50GB, which is well under two minutes. And 10G SerDes SDIO are in the works already, which would reduce that to under a minute. There may be other obstacles to the idea of vending machines loaded with a few TB of movies (20/TB) that write to a flash stick on demand, but throughput isn't one of them.
I mean, can you find your movie and check out at a Blockbuster, or even online at netflix, in significantly less than 52 seconds?
Ok, sure. You first. Discuss the size (in cubits please) of a vessel needed to contain two of every species of animal (not variety, which is what your dog comment addresses.) Then elaborate on how many more of each would be required to feed them all for more than a month. You may also wish to delve into waste management, separation of predator and prey, and disease control.
You will, at some point in this effort, be forced to invoke magic. Which is fine if you have such faith, but that doesn't make it logical, rational, possible, or even believable . . . at least without faith in magic.
Did you just insinuate that the story of Noah's Ark could have actually, literally happened as described? I want to be sure that wasn't subtle sarcasm before I mock you.
So, "there's nothing wrong with religion and faith" as long as you agree with it? They're all ridiculous and full of shit when analyzed rationally. That's why they require faith.
And because of the behavior of it's officials and practitioners. Forcing people to pay thousands for "religious texts." Fair Game. Lisa McPhereson et al. Read all about it.
I guess you never heard of tithing or the selling of indulgences? Or do you think that because these aren't in current literature means they were never used by the catholic church?
But it is the fault of the modern Catholic church that dozens of priests who raped children were shuffled around and allowed to continue to rape children. So there's that. Catholicism, Scientology, $RELIGION, are all deserving of some criticism.
Unless one is speaking of the old computer system, how is "Next" a noun? Generally, hyphenated words are used as a compound adjectivitvial or adverbial phrase that modifies a following noun or verb. Nothing follows "next-generation" in this context so it makes no sense, unless you assume this is a compound noun formed by "NeXT" (a computer system) and "generation" (an age.) But the capitalization is all wrong for that, and the age of the NeXT is long past, so it would make no sense as a title for this article, which fails to mention NeXT anywhere other than the title.
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Do you have any actual evidence or citations to support your claims?
It still has a cluncky UI from the early 90's. And a bad one at that.
It's not just the UI that sucks either. "Reply with attachment" -- why would anyone ever do that? Much less make it highest on the list of reply options and named just "reply" so you have to scroll down to "reply without attachment" to avoid sending an attachment right back to the person who just sent it! Sheer genius, that.
True. But what does your list of things that aren't happening and don't happen have to do with anything?
OK, and with my AT&T iphone I pay nothing extra (and overall far less than your $110/mo.) and get the same unlimited calls over VOIP wifi. What's the difference? I'm not following you.
First you said "I mean, is your time really worth that little that it's better to hassle with VoIP over data on a phone rather than pay a couple bucks more a month for decent service?" and "I'm not some twit that needs to have 1Mb data rates wirelessly, that needs to complain constantly about minutes used, etc. I mean, are there really that many cheap people out there who need to use their data plan with VoIP of Skype?" and even "I'd get over it dude. Even if you could put a VoIP app on your phone, the latency is horrible."
But now you say you're doing the same exact thing but are paying an extra $9/month for it? WTF? You're nuts man; either that or IHBT.
So I should not use a legal, workable service now that provides me an advantage because it may become unavailable in the future? Rather, I should use it never? How's that a win?
What hassle? Yeah, I understand time is money, and my time is worth tons of it. But VOIP is trivial. There really is no hassle.
Except apple's push service, due this month, which will be identical to blackberry (if not better, since it'll do IM and other apps too.)
Well, that's because no reviewer has the funds to travel all over the US (or world) doing a "can you hear me now" test. And, there are only a few chipset and antenna designs in use these days, all of which have been tested in "idealized" isolation chambers and perform within 1-2% of each other.
If you live in some remote place or around intereference that makes that 1-2% difference matter, sorry: 99% of us don't, and the reviewers are catering to the majority.
So? It works, it's far cheaper, especially for international calls, and more and more people are doing it. They'll adapt. Why do you care what it's "engineered for?" (Assuming you're even right about that.)
Wow, let's see: (1) only "twits" want 1Mb data rates, and (2) only "cheap people" want unlimited free calling.
Sounds like you have more money than you know what to do with, and haven't figured out how to use the internet while mobile. So how about giving this "cheap twit" some free money?
(Actually: methinks thou dost protest too much. Sour grapes and all that. But don't worry -- your contract will expire in a few years and you can try again! I think you'll find that all mobile companies have pretty much equally shitty service. The trick is to never need it.)
Which US provider isn't free on nights and weekends?
Not really. Voice is metered (X free minutes, $y per minute overage) while data is unlimited. And usually voice plans are more than data -- take the iphone: $40 for 450 minutes, $30 for unlimited data. Which is why having Truphone VOIP (just like skype) on the iphone is such a bargain. Unlimited super-cheap calling, even internationally. (Wifi only occifially, but if you jailbreak you can do VOIP over 3G for free.)
If you mean ringtones and games that you really rent since they expire and have to be re-bought in a month or three, yes. If you mean really like the apple app store with hundreds of free and useful apps, then no.
And in what way is it missing from the iphone, which has a fully-functioning web browser? Maybe missing from the "gmaps" app -- but works fine in safari
No no no! That's unpossible! It's the iphone that's locked down; android is completely open and perfect. ;)
It's funny to hear someone with a T-mobile data plan (the slowest, both in terms of bandwidth and latency) in the US tell someone to forget using VOIP on a phone. 100-200ms latency is fine for VOIP; I use it every week in conference calls to save mobile minutes (no land line).
BTW, the (free) Truephone on iphone works great. Wifi only (without hacks) but that's a lot better than no VOIP at all.
Psst: there's more than one moderator! There are, in fact, thousands of them! To expect them all to behave the same is, well, rather silly. To get upset about a single moderation to your post here is, well, rather sad.
Not really. USB3.0 is 4.8Gbps, which works out to ~104 seconds for 50GB, which is well under two minutes. And 10G SerDes SDIO are in the works already, which would reduce that to under a minute. There may be other obstacles to the idea of vending machines loaded with a few TB of movies (20/TB) that write to a flash stick on demand, but throughput isn't one of them.
I mean, can you find your movie and check out at a Blockbuster, or even online at netflix, in significantly less than 52 seconds?
Ok, sure. You first. Discuss the size (in cubits please) of a vessel needed to contain two of every species of animal (not variety, which is what your dog comment addresses.) Then elaborate on how many more of each would be required to feed them all for more than a month. You may also wish to delve into waste management, separation of predator and prey, and disease control.
You will, at some point in this effort, be forced to invoke magic. Which is fine if you have such faith, but that doesn't make it logical, rational, possible, or even believable . . . at least without faith in magic.
Did you just insinuate that the story of Noah's Ark could have actually, literally happened as described? I want to be sure that wasn't subtle sarcasm before I mock you.
So, "there's nothing wrong with religion and faith" as long as you agree with it? They're all ridiculous and full of shit when analyzed rationally. That's why they require faith.
And because of the behavior of it's officials and practitioners. Forcing people to pay thousands for "religious texts." Fair Game. Lisa McPhereson et al. Read all about it.
I guess you never heard of tithing or the selling of indulgences? Or do you think that because these aren't in current literature means they were never used by the catholic church?
But it is the fault of the modern Catholic church that dozens of priests who raped children were shuffled around and allowed to continue to rape children. So there's that. Catholicism, Scientology, $RELIGION, are all deserving of some criticism.
Hey there. Just wanted to thank you; your comments are the only thing funny in this entire thread!
Cheers!
Unless one is speaking of the old computer system, how is "Next" a noun? Generally, hyphenated words are used as a compound adjectivitvial or adverbial phrase that modifies a following noun or verb. Nothing follows "next-generation" in this context so it makes no sense, unless you assume this is a compound noun formed by "NeXT" (a computer system) and "generation" (an age.) But the capitalization is all wrong for that, and the age of the NeXT is long past, so it would make no sense as a title for this article, which fails to mention NeXT anywhere other than the title.