there is a VERY clear distinction: ask the one whose data you want to use. It's clear, it's simple, and it's fair. If I want book recommendations, I'll ask for it. Some legal framework to prevent spam would be nice too. Opt-in ofcourse.
//rdj
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in the Netherlands this is perfectly legal. First I asked the dept. of justice, they pointed me to the department of economics, who answered me that there are no legal obstacles that they know.
and how would they get my (non-existing) creditcard number? sure.. they have a history of what someone bought. but they don't have any info on that someone. credit cards are not very big in the Netherlands. They're not needed since there are lots of way to pay for stuff in the Netherlands. There's cash (my preferred form of money), there's PIN if you like to pay electronically and there's the 'chipknip' if you're really feeling funny. (the chipknip was invented by banks as an easy way to pay for small amounts. it holds some (electronic) money, and is anonymous. a lot like real money. it's also insecure like real money: anyone can spend it, and it's easier to loose a bank-card than it is to loose some bank-notes. people just aren't buying it, and it adds nothing to existing possibilities)
so a country doesn't recognise another one.. big deal. it's not the first one, nor will it be the last. It's not like it matters. The US always has to complain when things don't go the way they like it.
These kind of cards also exist in europe, but they HAVE to tell you what they do with your data, and you can refuse to give it, and still get the card. then you get the few pennies, but all the shops have is a number. no name, age, sex, whatever.
I can never stop laughing any time someone from the US calls politicians 'left', who would almost be called 'rightwing fundamentalists' in the Netherlands.
also as an alternative there is Fernandez, guaranteed to have NO natural ingredients, barring water. Get the green one.. oh.. when presenting a bottle of Fernandez, hold it by the top. Nice look on people's faces when you release, and it turns out that it is NOT a brightgreen bottle. some Albert Heijns stock the stuff.
Someone who puts his dog, hamster or cat on the net is not collecting information on me, and I can just choose not to go there. The real danger is companies. The net should be for humans (with some pics of cats, and maybe the occasional talking chimp)
1) it makes migration from existing OSes easier 2) There's a choice of windowmanagers 3) most of those windowmanagers are configurable in both look and feel.
>Somebody had to start every religion at some point in time. Why should only the really old one's be protected? Just because they were invented a long time ago?
The copyright has expired on the really old ones. Christianity: copyright expired Scientology: copyrighted (probably trademarked and patented too..)
This is the reason scientology is being sued in the Netherlands: apparently they keep a lot of personal info from interviews and such. an ex-scientologist isn't allowed to see her file, and they won't remove it. They are also evading the "registration chamber" (authority who looks after registration and privacy), who keep tabs on registration of people in databases and the like. Breaking privacy rules is generally not very accepted in the Netherlands...
One of the first gases to be used in warfare, phosgene, smells like grass or hay in low concentrations. So if some country uses this, can we sue for patent-infringement?
>It's like buying a Formula 10 car with all the engine power in there, but with an additional device that restricts the horsepower that can be output, in the name of "driving safety".
Like the Corvette Z1 did. The lock on the engine shuts out 2 cylinders if I remember correctly. This effectively limits the horsepower, in case you let someone else drive. They also gave you the key though.. if you want to run the thing up to about 250 km/h you can. Now if only the MPAA would give us the key. Instead we have to buy a key seperately from a locksmith.
definately not me though. Stuff that I mentioned is all verifiable. You can think I'm a bastard.. that's fine, I am not the nicest person around. But lying was not involved.
>These bands made a conscious choice to sign a contract with a record company, and should have been aware of the pricing policies before they did so.
The last CD I bought was from a band called 'De Heideroosjes'. In their record-contract they SPECIFICALLY stated a maximum price that their CD would cost. I don't mind paying for stuff. I do mind OVERpaying for stuff.
they will in the netherlands. send me the letter, and I'll attach it to a dutch brick. by airmail if possible. dutch postoffice would definately send it.
>Napster hurts album sales especially among poor college students. This is not FUD this is fact.
In the dutch situation there is another thing: When CDs were introduced, they were ridiculously overpriced. Vinyl: Fl 25.00 CD: Fl 40.00 Record companies loudly proclaimed CDs would soon be the price of vinyl. But this never happened. Now very recently the price of SOME CDs has gone down to Fl 35.00. Add to that the fact that grey import (=import of legal CDs from other sources) is not allowed any more, and we can see that this is a monopoly. The record companies will not lower their price. In my eyes they're a bunbch of lying bastards, and I'll screw them any wya I can.
>Psalms 67:2, "That Thy way may be known on the earth, Thy salvation AMONG all nations." The word AMONG combined with the word ALL, means EVERYONE, all people.
This is quite dangerous to do with a translation. The original may state this clearer. The same problem exists with the non-destinction in english between "vrij" (free as in freedom) and "gratis" (free beer). That also reminds me: Any 'misuse' of a text would have to refer to the original text, not a translation.
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there is a VERY clear distinction: ask the one whose data you want to use. It's clear, it's simple, and it's fair. If I want book recommendations, I'll ask for it. Some legal framework to prevent spam would be nice too. Opt-in ofcourse.
//rdj
in the Netherlands this is perfectly legal. First I asked the dept. of justice, they pointed me to the department of economics, who answered me that there are no legal obstacles that they know.
//rdj
and how would they get my (non-existing) creditcard number? sure.. they have a history of what someone bought. but they don't have any info on that someone. credit cards are not very big in the Netherlands. They're not needed since there are lots of way to pay for stuff in the Netherlands. There's cash (my preferred form of money), there's PIN if you like to pay electronically and there's the 'chipknip' if you're really feeling funny. (the chipknip was invented by banks as an easy way to pay for small amounts. it holds some (electronic) money, and is anonymous. a lot like real money. it's also insecure like real money: anyone can spend it, and it's easier to loose a bank-card than it is to loose some bank-notes. people just aren't buying it, and it adds nothing to existing possibilities)
//rdj
no idea, but I've been wondering about the exact same thing. Could make a nice test-case..maybe I should stop over at the 'rechtswinkel' some time.
//rdj
so a country doesn't recognise another one.. big deal. it's not the first one, nor will it be the last. It's not like it matters. The US always has to complain when things don't go the way they like it.
//rdj
These kind of cards also exist in europe, but they HAVE to tell you what they do with your data, and you can refuse to give it, and still get the card. then you get the few pennies, but all the shops have is a number. no name, age, sex, whatever.
//rdj
Damn, I'm even better than I thought ;)
//rdj
I can never stop laughing any time someone from the US calls politicians 'left', who would almost be called 'rightwing fundamentalists' in the Netherlands.
//rdj
in a few months nintendo will come out with a phone-extension for your gameboy.
//rdj
also as an alternative there is Fernandez, guaranteed to have NO natural ingredients, barring water. Get the green one.. oh.. when presenting a bottle of Fernandez, hold it by the top. Nice look on people's faces when you release, and it turns out that it is NOT a brightgreen bottle.
some Albert Heijns stock the stuff.
//rdj
Someone who puts his dog, hamster or cat on the net is not collecting information on me, and I can just choose not to go there. The real danger is companies. The net should be for humans (with some pics of cats, and maybe the occasional talking chimp)
//rdj
>Ever read a software license agreement?
Ah.. you mean the click-through one, which hasn't been clicked since it's still in a sealed box? The one that hasn't been agreed too?
//rdj
1) it makes migration from existing OSes easier
2) There's a choice of windowmanagers
3) most of those windowmanagers are configurable in both look and feel.
//rdj
>Somebody had to start every religion at some point in time. Why should only the really old one's be protected? Just because they were invented a long time ago?
The copyright has expired on the really old ones.
Christianity: copyright expired
Scientology: copyrighted (probably trademarked and patented too..)
//rdj
This is the reason scientology is being sued in the Netherlands: apparently they keep a lot of personal info from interviews and such. an ex-scientologist isn't allowed to see her file, and they won't remove it. They are also evading the "registration chamber" (authority who looks after registration and privacy), who keep tabs on registration of people in databases and the like. Breaking privacy rules is generally not very accepted in the Netherlands...
//rdj
My suggestion would be to use redundant in those cases. Like this one.
//rdj
One of the first gases to be used in warfare, phosgene, smells like grass or hay in low concentrations. So if some country uses this, can we sue for patent-infringement?
//rdj
"Overrated" moderation only on moderated posts.
//rdj
>It's like buying a Formula 10 car with all the engine power in there, but with an additional device that restricts the horsepower that can be output, in the name of "driving safety".
Like the Corvette Z1 did. The lock on the engine shuts out 2 cylinders if I remember correctly. This effectively limits the horsepower, in case you let someone else drive. They also gave you the key though.. if you want to run the thing up to about 250 km/h you can. Now if only the MPAA would give us the key. Instead we have to buy a key seperately from a locksmith.
//rdj
definately not me though. Stuff that I mentioned is all verifiable. You can think I'm a bastard.. that's fine, I am not the nicest person around. But lying was not involved.
//rdj
I'm not stealing, it's either piracy or it's civil disobedience. I claim civil disobedience, you can claim piracy, but you can't claim theft.
//rdj
>These bands made a conscious choice to sign a contract with a record company, and should have been aware of the pricing policies before they did so.
The last CD I bought was from a band called 'De Heideroosjes'. In their record-contract they SPECIFICALLY stated a maximum price that their CD would cost. I don't mind paying for stuff. I do mind OVERpaying for stuff.
//rdj
they will in the netherlands. send me the letter, and I'll attach it to a dutch brick. by airmail if possible. dutch postoffice would definately send it.
//rdj
>Napster hurts album sales especially among poor college students. This is not FUD this is fact.
In the dutch situation there is another thing:
When CDs were introduced, they were ridiculously overpriced.
Vinyl: Fl 25.00
CD: Fl 40.00
Record companies loudly proclaimed CDs would soon be the price of vinyl. But this never happened. Now very recently the price of SOME CDs has gone down to Fl 35.00. Add to that the fact that grey import (=import of legal CDs from other sources) is not allowed any more, and we can see that this is a monopoly. The record companies will not lower their price. In my eyes they're a bunbch of lying bastards, and I'll screw them any wya I can.
//rdj
>Psalms 67:2, "That Thy way may be known on the earth, Thy salvation AMONG all nations."
The word AMONG combined with the word ALL, means EVERYONE, all people.
This is quite dangerous to do with a translation. The original may state this clearer. The same problem exists with the non-destinction in english between "vrij" (free as in freedom) and "gratis" (free beer). That also reminds me: Any 'misuse' of a text would have to refer to the original text, not a translation.
//rdj