so what you want is to restrict the interpretation of a work. That's getting dangerously close to thought-control. Also if you restrict interpretation of the bible, you will also have to restrict interpretation of other texts, religious or not. No more quoting anything. If that's what you want, go ahead. I wasn't planning on going state-side any time soon, and never if it gets through.
Here in the Netherlands there is no jury-based legal system, guilt is determined by the judge. Dutch legal system is usually not seen as unfair (usually. for any legal system there will always be at least some cries about a certain verdict being unfair). A trial without a jury is not by definition unfair.
MS broken an important law designed to protect people. Not punishing MS would be morally wrong, just like it would be morally wrong not to punish a murderer or rapist (no, I am not saying ms is a murderer or a rapist)
I didn't think you were the original poster. but you did discount the tornado theory by the original poster. and cut it out with the personal insults. The lies of satan have convinced me that the big bang is a decent theory, but by no means perfect. And my philosophy is not atheist, but that's a whole other discussion for which I do not have the time right now.
>But until you accept the love of the Lord into your heart and act to save the souls of your fellow men, you are still one of Satan's dupes, and as such destined for Hell.
hell, here I come!
Granted, you as a nameless, faceless entity are closer to a god than me.. a 'mere human'. I'd be happy to continue this discussion, but not with people calling me ignorant, idiot or asshole.
>Are you stupid, or just being ignorant of the Truth of our Lord? If God wants to stop the Earth then he can do so and have night fall as well if He so pleases. That is what omnipotence is.
1) no, I am not stupid 2) I am not ignorant of the truth of your lord. I just dispute it as The Truth. 3) I just learnt that stopping the earth wouldn't do any good. the earth doesn't even rotate. So god cannot stop the earth, since it is already stationary.
>Again your ignorance astounds me.
I live to please;)
>Jerusalem is the spiritual capital of the world,
Thank you for completely discounting the Tornado-theory
>and as such if the centre of the world in every way which counts. depends on how you count. If your criterium is 'what place is a holy place for most religions' then you have a point.
>Joshua asked Our Lord to stop the Sun, you ignorant asshole, not the Earth. What possible good would it have done to stop the Earth from moving?
please. your lord. stopping the earth would stop nightfall.
>If the Earth did rotate, then one would expect to see tornadoes in the area at the centre of rotation. This would imply that Kansas is the centre of the Earth, a thought pleasing to my personal sympathies, but contradicted by scripture. There has never been a tornado in Jerusalem
Or Jerusalem is not the centre of the world
>Your blasphemous statement that the Moon "reflects" light from the Sun directly contradicts Genesis 3:16, in which it is made perfectly clear that "he created the moon, that the slimy crawling things by night might see". Which part of "he created", don't you understand? Your pathetic advocacy of the fraudulent theory (and it IS a THEORY, not some bourgeois, East-Coast elitist idea of a "fact") is sickening
actually, that doesn't say anything ofcourse. the above says NOTHING on the method of illumination, which could well be by reflecting the sun's light.
pic #19836, left of the big rock in the background. Marvin and Duck Dodgers having a picnic. and I think I can just see a little bit of Jimmy Hoffa behind the right rock.
suppose my kid spoke his/her first words and I taped them. convert to MP3 and send to family-members overseas. or just put the first words on napster. it's mp3, it's legit, it's legal. Or I put some MP3s of my own band on my drive to share. again, this is legal. trading mp3s in itself is not illegal. trading COPYRIGHTED mp3s (not copyrighted by you, and not free for distribution) is.
according to the 'ministerie of economische zaken' (probable dept. of economics or something the like) making your own DVD player (ie deCSS) is perfectly legal (I had to be sure, got the answer yesterday). The ISP in question is probably XS4ALL, what used to be Hacktic. Indeed they do have a reputation for free speech.
a very good reason not to allow corporate sponsoring of political parties. I'm very glad that in a large part of the world ( the largest? I don't know..) this isn't allowed. No company can stop funding a political party cause they don't like their policies, which puts the power over politicians more on the side of the voter.
>It may be impossible to write a law that accounts for every conceivable technological innovations, however a judge will know an illegal act when she sees it.
it does sound a bit like 'I know pronography when I see it'. but I think there is a difference: it is indeed impossible to write a law that encompasses all future technology. (should we ever find a way of instantaneous transportation, this would most probably not be covered by current traffic and other laws). But part of the job of a judge is to outline the interpretation of the law, and establish this interpretation through jurisprudence. So in some way, a judge does recognise an illegal act when he looks at it. but he may have to look long and hard.
the major use of compact cassettes is copying CDs too. I suppose those should be outlawed too, in your view. Napster is nothing but a tool. The use of this tool is the user's responsibility.
>we consciously made the decision to write the player the Right Way.
THE right way? I would say _A_ right way. In this case the right way for your company. But not necessarily the right way for everyone. THE right way for me would be a free (as in freedom) DVD player. That may not be good for your company, but I don't care about any company. You're choosing what the DVD forum says is the right way. And I happen not to agree. I havent found any clause in current legislation that forbids me to decrypt DVD movies to view them. (no, I'm not bound by the DMCA) As far as I know there is no law against making your own VCR, cassette player, or CD player and I don't see why DVD would be any different.
Good thing that in europe commercials are regulated. Since a few weeks even more:) I am not familar with the exact rules on how much is allowed but only a few weeks ago there was a lawsuit which commercial tv didn't like: any movie shorter than 110 minutes can only be broken up by commercials once. since the lawsuit, this is for the bare movie, without the commercials. before the lawsuit, the 110 minutes included the commercials. makes for a bit less commercial shit.
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The requirement for the existence of a solution in the database is ofcourse quite a big one.
//rdj
so what you want is to restrict the interpretation of a work. That's getting dangerously close to thought-control. Also if you restrict interpretation of the bible, you will also have to restrict interpretation of other texts, religious or not. No more quoting anything. If that's what you want, go ahead. I wasn't planning on going state-side any time soon, and never if it gets through.
//rdj
Here in the Netherlands there is no jury-based legal system, guilt is determined by the judge. Dutch legal system is usually not seen as unfair (usually. for any legal system there will always be at least some cries about a certain verdict being unfair). A trial without a jury is not by definition unfair.
//rdj
or get rid of juries in trials, which is probably too much of a hassle legally.
//rdj
MS broken an important law designed to protect people. Not punishing MS would be morally wrong, just like it would be morally wrong not to punish a murderer or rapist (no, I am not saying ms is a murderer or a rapist)
//rdj
don't forget: the US is one of the few nations that hasn't signed the declaration of human rights.
even china signed this.
//rdj
I didn't think you were the original poster. but you did discount the tornado theory by the original poster. and cut it out with the personal insults. The lies of satan have convinced me that the big bang is a decent theory, but by no means perfect. And my philosophy is not atheist, but that's a whole other discussion for which I do not have the time right now.
>But until you accept the love of the Lord into your heart and act to save the souls of your fellow men, you are still one of Satan's dupes, and as such destined for Hell.
hell, here I come!
Granted, you as a nameless, faceless entity are closer to a god than me.. a 'mere human'. I'd be happy to continue this discussion, but not with people calling me ignorant, idiot or asshole.
//rdj
>Are you stupid, or just being ignorant of the Truth of our Lord? If God wants to stop the Earth then he can do so and have night fall as well if He so pleases. That is what omnipotence is.
;)
1) no, I am not stupid
2) I am not ignorant of the truth of your lord. I just dispute it as The Truth.
3) I just learnt that stopping the earth wouldn't do any good. the earth doesn't even rotate. So god cannot stop the earth, since it is already stationary.
>Again your ignorance astounds me.
I live to please
>Jerusalem is the spiritual capital of the world,
Thank you for completely discounting the Tornado-theory
>and as such if the centre of the world in every way which counts.
depends on how you count. If your criterium is 'what place is a holy place for most religions' then you have a point.
//rdj
and the universe is approximately 4000 years old..
>Joshua asked Our Lord to stop the Sun, you ignorant asshole, not the Earth. What possible good would it have done to stop the Earth from moving?
please. your lord. stopping the earth would stop nightfall.
>If the Earth did rotate, then one would expect to see tornadoes in the area at the centre of rotation. This would imply that Kansas is the centre of the Earth, a thought pleasing to my personal sympathies, but contradicted by scripture. There has never been a tornado in Jerusalem
Or Jerusalem is not the centre of the world
>Your blasphemous statement that the Moon "reflects" light from the Sun directly contradicts Genesis 3:16, in which it is made perfectly clear that "he created the moon, that the slimy crawling things by night might see". Which part of "he created", don't you understand? Your pathetic advocacy of the fraudulent theory (and it IS a THEORY, not some bourgeois, East-Coast elitist idea of a "fact") is sickening
actually, that doesn't say anything ofcourse. the above says NOTHING on the method of illumination, which could well be by reflecting the sun's light.
//rdj
pic #19836, left of the big rock in the background. Marvin and Duck Dodgers having a picnic. and I think I can just see a little bit of Jimmy Hoffa behind the right rock.
//rdj
Who do I mail that I saw a martian? It wasn't green..
//rdj
strange switch, from company to people. companies aren't people.
//rdj
depends on the picture...
//rdj
Britney Spears is still allowed...
//rdj
in any country where deCSS is legal, deCSS is the right way.
//rdj
suppose my kid spoke his/her first words and I taped them. convert to MP3 and send to family-members overseas. or just put the first words on napster. it's mp3, it's legit, it's legal. Or I put some MP3s of my own band on my drive to share. again, this is legal. trading mp3s in itself is not illegal. trading COPYRIGHTED mp3s (not copyrighted by you, and not free for distribution) is.
//rdj
according to the 'ministerie of economische zaken' (probable dept. of economics or something the like) making your own DVD player (ie deCSS) is perfectly legal (I had to be sure, got the answer yesterday). The ISP in question is probably XS4ALL, what used to be Hacktic. Indeed they do have a reputation for free speech.
//rdj
a very good reason not to allow corporate sponsoring of political parties. I'm very glad that in a large part of the world ( the largest? I don't know..) this isn't allowed. No company can stop funding a political party cause they don't like their policies, which puts the power over politicians more on the side of the voter.
//rdj
>It may be impossible to write a law that accounts for every conceivable technological innovations, however a judge will know an illegal act when she sees it.
it does sound a bit like 'I know pronography when I see it'. but I think there is a difference: it is indeed impossible to write a law that encompasses all future technology. (should we ever find a way of instantaneous transportation, this would most probably not be covered by current traffic and other laws). But part of the job of a judge is to outline the interpretation of the law, and establish this interpretation through jurisprudence. So in some way, a judge does recognise an illegal act when he looks at it. but he may have to look long and hard.
//rdj
the major use of compact cassettes is copying CDs too. I suppose those should be outlawed too, in your view. Napster is nothing but a tool. The use of this tool is the user's responsibility.
//rdj
>After all, I still remember finding where my dad hid his magazines....
and ofcourse that scarred you for life, causing endless mental anguish and cerebral trauma, showing to everyone that censorship is good.
And my dad was a penguin and my mom a chameleon.
//rdj
>we consciously made the decision to write the player the Right Way.
THE right way? I would say _A_ right way. In this case the right way for your company. But not necessarily the right way for everyone. THE right way for me would be a free (as in freedom) DVD player. That may not be good for your company, but I don't care about any company. You're choosing what the DVD forum says is the right way. And I happen not to agree. I havent found any clause in current legislation that forbids me to decrypt DVD movies to view them. (no, I'm not bound by the DMCA) As far as I know there is no law against making your own VCR, cassette player, or CD player and I don't see why DVD would be any different.
//rdj
Good thing that in europe commercials are regulated. Since a few weeks even more :)
I am not familar with the exact rules on how much is allowed but only a few weeks ago there was a lawsuit which commercial tv didn't like: any movie shorter than 110 minutes can only be broken up by commercials once. since the lawsuit, this is for the bare movie, without the commercials. before the lawsuit, the 110 minutes included the commercials.
makes for a bit less commercial shit.
//rdj
>"Can I bring my laptop?"
>Yes, but you can only run one of the following operating systems
>Windows 3.0
>Windows NT 3.1
>It is, after all, hell
>DB
ugh.. first time someone actually came close to converting me...
//rdj