I couldn't find any reference to subsidies to "green" energy production. All of the figures are for fossil fuels. The linked Excel spreadsheet has the data.
The IMF just published a comprehensive study of fossil fuel subsidies. They about to $5 trillion a year (world-wide) which is 6.5% of global GDP. http://www.imf.org/external/np...
As Elon has stated: "If I was interested in subsidies, I'd go into the oil business".
If we made it illegal to be stupid, where would we find politicians? However, it is hard to believe that they are this stupid. Perhaps next they will try to build a wall to prevent those rogue 1s and 0s from being smuggled out of the country. I'm sure one of our defense contractors will be happy to tell them it will work and charge big bucks for building it.
I see that you still have the illusion that the politicians are not totally bought and paid for by business interests. I believe that George Carlin said it best: "Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.
Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.
They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want:
They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests.
Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that!
You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fucking place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club.
By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you.they don’t give a fuck about you they don’t give a FUCK about you.
They don’t care about you at all at all AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.
It's called the American Dream,because you have to be asleep to believe it."
My car now has Nvidia chips that recognize speed limit signs and displays them inside the speedometer (along with a reminder when I exceed the speed limit). For the future, Nvidia has announced the NVIDIA’s DRIVE PX self-driving car computer which has a lot of advanced image processing. http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2...
I got a lithium cell powered greeting card for my birthday a few years ago. My granddaughter loves it (silly song and dancing hamster). She plays it several times a week (yes, I'm getting tired of the song). However, still going strong! I believe it will live forever.
I have a few RPi's dedicated to servers and monitoring various things. None of them use a display port. I access them all using ssh over WiFi. This would be a good drop in replacement for these projects. Right now I use a RPi ($35) plus WiFi dongle ($10). With this, $9.
Look, HornWumpus, I agree with you. You are right. They lost money because they invested a lot of money in new factories, etc. and the accounting rules, etc. However, that is not what the OP and I were discussing when you inserted yourself into this thread. The OP said that they were losing $3600 on each car they made. I pointed out that they made money on each car they made but the company lost money because they spent all the money they made on each car plus other money on investing in new factories and new models. It seems that you have enough understanding of economics to know the difference between losing money on each car you make and having the company lose money because they are investing in the future... this is a big difference. I would be worried if they lost money on each car (the car cost more to make than they sold it for). I am not worried (and most of the investors are not worried) that they lost money because of their investing in factories and new models.
Their gross profit per car is about 28% (i.e. about $25,000 per car). The company lost money because it is spending everything it makes on new factories (Gigafactory, etc.) and developing new models (X, 3).
Start with a few facts rather than opinions pulled from the nether regions: Coal accounted for 35% of electricity production in the US in 2014. This is down from 50% in 2005. http://www.eia.gov/electricity...
Thermodynamics: Efficiency: Large power plants (such as coal powered plants) are very efficient. Internal combustion engines are very inefficient. "According to a range of studies doing a ‘well to wheels’ analysis, an electric car leads to significantly less carbon dioxide pollution from electricity than the CO2 pollution from the oil of a conventional car with an internal combustion engine.[1][2][3] In some areas, like many on the West Coast that rely largely on wind or hydro power, the emissions are significantly lower for EVs. And that's today. As we retire more coal plants and bring cleaner sources of power online, the emissions from electric vehicle charging drop even further. Additionally, in some areas, night-time charging will increase the opportunity to take advantage of wind power -- another way to reduce emissions." [1] Union of Concerned Scientists. “State of Charge: Electric Vehicles’ Global Warming Emissions and Fuel-Cost Savings Across the United States.” April, 2012. http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/d... [2] MIT Energy Initiative. "The Electrification of the Transportation System." April, 2010. [3] Electric Power Research Institute and Natural Resources Defense Council. "Environmental Assessment of Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles." 2007. Cited February 16, 2011. I charge my electric car from solar panels... YMMV
"No, not at all. Sea levels have risen about 120m over the past 20000 years; they can only rise about another 50-60m. Unpleasant, to be sure, but no threat to farmland. If anything, there was more arable land during the Cretaceous, due to warmer and wetter conditions."
Depends on how you define "unpleasant". If you are one of the 80%+ of people on earth who will find their house under water, it is highly "unpleasant"... others may enjoy their new beachfront property.
There have been publication and experiments over hundreds of years forecasting (or advocating) a utopia where people work less and get paid more. These would work except they all require a strong socialist state and severely curtailed capitalism. There are some countries which have come close to this utopia with strong worker rights and supports. I think many of the Scandinavian countries are in this category. The key is having workers capture increases in productivity. Currently in the US (and many other places), almost all of the benefits of increases in productivity go to the capitalists who then drive down wages and increase profits. A socialist system creates a more equal distribution of the benefits of productivity by enforcing minimum wages, taxing profits and supporting worker with direct subsidy when there is not enough work available.
There are some efficiencies of scale but not a factor of two. Not quite... The cost of residential (less than 10kw) is $5.47/w Larger systems (more than 10kw) drop the price to $4.92/w
Where I live, the time of use differential is 14 cents. I could save $1.40 a day with this battery. $511 a year for an investment of $3500... good return.
Distributed solar generation is more efficient than central generations because you don't have distribution losses and don't have to have the high capacity power distribution network.
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Electricity is not a source. Fossil fuels are the source.
No mention of green energy... Just fossil sources.
I couldn't find any reference to subsidies to "green" energy production.
All of the figures are for fossil fuels.
The linked Excel spreadsheet has the data.
The IMF calculates world fossil fuel subsidies at $5 trillion a year (6.5% of GDP).
http://www.imf.org/external/np...
Context IS everything.
The IMF just published a comprehensive study of fossil fuel subsidies. They about to $5 trillion a year (world-wide) which is 6.5% of global GDP.
http://www.imf.org/external/np...
As Elon has stated: "If I was interested in subsidies, I'd go into the oil business".
If we made it illegal to be stupid, where would we find politicians?
However, it is hard to believe that they are this stupid.
Perhaps next they will try to build a wall to prevent those rogue 1s and 0s from being smuggled out of the country.
I'm sure one of our defense contractors will be happy to tell them it will work and charge big bucks for building it.
I see that you still have the illusion that the politicians are not totally bought and paid for by business interests.
I believe that George Carlin said it best:
"Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.
Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.
They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want:
They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests.
Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that!
You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fucking place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club.
By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a fuck about you.they don’t give a fuck about you they don’t give a FUCK about you.
They don’t care about you at all at all AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick thats being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.
It's called the American Dream,because you have to be asleep to believe it."
My car now has Nvidia chips that recognize speed limit signs and displays them inside the speedometer (along with a reminder when I exceed the speed limit). For the future, Nvidia has announced the NVIDIA’s DRIVE PX self-driving car computer which has a lot of advanced image processing.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2...
The 2015 GPU Tech Conference was stuffed full of this tech.
http://www.gputechconf.com/
No keys. No keychain.
House is always open... don't need a key.
Car has an electronic fob... no key.
I got a lithium cell powered greeting card for my birthday a few years ago. My granddaughter loves it (silly song and dancing hamster). She plays it several times a week (yes, I'm getting tired of the song). However, still going strong! I believe it will live forever.
You could foam anything anything and make it less dense
You win!
Here's a map of California earthquakes for the last week:
http://scedc.caltech.edu/recen...
I have a few RPi's dedicated to servers and monitoring various things. None of them use a display port. I access them all using ssh over WiFi. This would be a good drop in replacement for these projects.
Right now I use a RPi ($35) plus WiFi dongle ($10). With this, $9.
Look, HornWumpus, I agree with you. You are right. They lost money because they invested a lot of money in new factories, etc. and the accounting rules, etc.
However, that is not what the OP and I were discussing when you inserted yourself into this thread. The OP said that they were losing $3600 on each car they made. I pointed out that they made money on each car they made but the company lost money because they spent all the money they made on each car plus other money on investing in new factories and new models.
It seems that you have enough understanding of economics to know the difference between losing money on each car you make and having the company lose money because they are investing in the future... this is a big difference. I would be worried if they lost money on each car (the car cost more to make than they sold it for). I am not worried (and most of the investors are not worried) that they lost money because of their investing in factories and new models.
Right.
That's why they "lost money" in 2014.
My point was that they make money on every car they sell which the OP didn't seem to understand.
Their gross profit per car is about 28% (i.e. about $25,000 per car).
The company lost money because it is spending everything it makes on new factories (Gigafactory, etc.) and developing new models (X, 3).
The Tesla is a car which feels like it was teleported from 10 years in the future.
Start with a few facts rather than opinions pulled from the nether regions:
Coal accounted for 35% of electricity production in the US in 2014. This is down from 50% in 2005.
http://www.eia.gov/electricity...
Thermodynamics:
Efficiency: Large power plants (such as coal powered plants) are very efficient. Internal combustion engines are very inefficient.
"According to a range of studies doing a ‘well to wheels’ analysis, an electric car leads to significantly less carbon dioxide pollution from electricity than the CO2 pollution from the oil of a conventional car with an internal combustion engine.[1][2][3] In some areas, like many on the West Coast that rely largely on wind or hydro power, the emissions are significantly lower for EVs. And that's today. As we retire more coal plants and bring cleaner sources of power online, the emissions from electric vehicle charging drop even further. Additionally, in some areas, night-time charging will increase the opportunity to take advantage of wind power -- another way to reduce emissions."
[1] Union of Concerned Scientists. “State of Charge: Electric Vehicles’ Global Warming Emissions and Fuel-Cost Savings Across the United States.” April, 2012. http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/d...
[2] MIT Energy Initiative. "The Electrification of the Transportation System." April, 2010.
[3] Electric Power Research Institute and Natural Resources Defense Council. "Environmental Assessment of Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles." 2007. Cited February 16, 2011.
I charge my electric car from solar panels... YMMV
"No, not at all. Sea levels have risen about 120m over the past 20000 years; they can only rise about another 50-60m. Unpleasant, to be sure, but no threat to farmland. If anything, there was more arable land during the Cretaceous, due to warmer and wetter conditions."
Depends on how you define "unpleasant". If you are one of the 80%+ of people on earth who will find their house under water, it is highly "unpleasant"... others may enjoy their new beachfront property.
There have been publication and experiments over hundreds of years forecasting (or advocating) a utopia where people work less and get paid more. These would work except they all require a strong socialist state and severely curtailed capitalism. There are some countries which have come close to this utopia with strong worker rights and supports. I think many of the Scandinavian countries are in this category.
The key is having workers capture increases in productivity. Currently in the US (and many other places), almost all of the benefits of increases in productivity go to the capitalists who then drive down wages and increase profits. A socialist system creates a more equal distribution of the benefits of productivity by enforcing minimum wages, taxing profits and supporting worker with direct subsidy when there is not enough work available.
Irony is dead.
There are some efficiencies of scale but not a factor of two. /w /w
Not quite...
The cost of residential (less than 10kw) is $5.47
Larger systems (more than 10kw) drop the price to $4.92
https://www.californiasolarsta...
Maintenance?
Service?
PV solar doesn't require either... it just works.
Where I live, the time of use differential is 14 cents. I could save $1.40 a day with this battery. $511 a year for an investment of $3500... good return.
Distributed solar generation is more efficient than central generations because you don't have distribution losses and don't have to have the high capacity power distribution network.