Which distro? Which window manager/desktop? You weren't trying to run a full KDE/Gnome environment on the thing, were you?
There's plenty of ways to optimize the PS3 Linux experience, shutting down unecessary services, not using GDM and booting straight into a text console, using Fluxbox, enabling VRAM swap, using lightweight applications, all sorts of easy things. I know because I've done it, and have Yellow Dog Linux 6.2 installed on mine.
It's also kind of funny that people are saying 256MB isn't enough when that was a common amount for WinXP machines to have not so many years ago.
You do know that Linux on the PS3 works similar to a "dual-boot" sort of thing? You can boot between what Sony calls OtherOS (Linux) and GameOS (the PS3's regular functionality) as you desire.
It's all about added functionality. Imagine a 1 PC household, yes, it seems Slashdot readers have a dozen PC's and a rack of servers in the garage, but most families don't. Imagine the PC is occupied and you want to read your e-mail and print some documents yourself and say you've got a PS3. It essentially means you don't just have 1 PC, you have two.
Regardless it is NOT a PC, and I fail to see any benefit of installing Linux on it other than saying 'hey look what I can do!' Interesting academic exercise, but practically pointless.
Pointless?
[CronoCloud@mideel ~]$ cat/etc/redhat-release Yellow Dog Linux release 6.2 (Pyxis) [CronoCloud@mideel ~]$ uname -a Linux mideel 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ppc64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.12) Gecko/2009072311 YellowDog/3.0.12-1.ydl6.2 Firefox/3.0.12
A PS3 with a Linux install on it adds even more functionality to the thing. GameOS's Netfront is sucky, but under Linux you've got Firefox and Opera. GameOS can't view and print PDF's but you can under Linux. You've got all the usual 'nix tools and whatnot, LaTeX, vim, gcc, nethack. One of the first things I did when I got my PS3 was download YDL and install it.
Though I freely admit I had Linux on my PS2 as well.
You can run win95/98 under QEMU on the PS3 under Linux. Diablo is playable, seems to run full speed. Funny thing is, Fallout 1 under DOSBOX isn't playable at full speed.
But you can already play NOLF and Red Alert on a PS3, natively. NOLF had a PS2 port and Red Alert was ported to the PSone (and is now available for download for PS3/PSP via PSN)
There is no european import tax on consoles...not anymore. There was, but it went away very early in the PS2's life, pre Linux on the PS2 in fact.
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No, that tariff has been gone for years. It was Yabasic on the PS2 that was the attempt, the tariff disappeared soon after, before Linux on the PS2 and PS3 were available.
Don't know how much it is in Euros, but considering it's a blu-ray player AND has media capabilities, AND plays games, it's a better deal. It "should" even play your DivX files on those DVD's but since it does DLNA it can just play them directly from your PC.
Why would you buy a product in this day and age that doesn't support the most ubiquitous and popular portable video format: MP4. It's not a fancy new format. there were portable devices playing both MP4 ASP and H.264 AVC in 2004.
Considering that the Sony PSP, which came out in 2005, and the Sony PS3 (2006) both have H.264 support, and that hte video iPods have it as well. I would think that H.264 support in devices easily surpasses DivX
I don't rip DVD's, but if I did I would rip only to H.264 AVC Main Profile Level 2 or 3 with CABAC in 720x480 resolution, bitrate of 2Mbsec, though that's overkill for DVD, but the PSP could handle it.
The problem is, the last couple of GT's seem to be designed with the assumption that the player is using a wheel. I bet I could actually beat some of those "impossible" license tests with a wheel, that I simply can't do with the dual shock.
The Gran Turismo devs are always overpromising. Didn't they promise online play with GT4 on the PS2?
That wikipedia page you link to on GT PSP notes that it IS possible to play the game online via the PS3 application Adhoc Party. Course, you need a PS3 using a wired connection to the internet to use that, since it uses the wireless to connect with the PSP. The only reason I can use adhoc party is because I have my PS3 connected to a switch that has a wireless bridge attached to it. (had the bridge for the PS2)
Yes, but the college dorm semi-permanent LAN PC/Xbox setup probably outnumbers the traditional LAN Party. For one, it's easier to setup and organize since everyone is already there.
Hulu used to work, but then the media companies found out that people were watching Hulu on PS3's connected to TV's and their agreements for streaming rights were for computers connected to monitors. Silly, I know, but the media companies view the living room and the desk as separate markets.
Sony ought to add an option to the web browser to change the User Agent, because that's how their blocking PS3's.
The PS3's CPU "is" used during blu-ray playback, which is why the PS3 has very very good BD-J performance. How many standalone blu-ray players have a 3.2 GHz hyperthreaded, with altivec CPU with 7 powerful SPE's with cycles to burn.
Ha ha ha ha. I WISH Home was more like SL, then I might use it more often. That said, that new Salt Shooter game in SodiumOne is fun. And So is saucer pop.
Content in SL is dynamic, can change at anytime, so they have to stream it. In less than a minute I could have a cape cod type house rezzed and seconds later replace it with a victorian cottage. Same goes for avatar customization.
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Usability for what purposes? I've done all sorts of things on mine. Edited photos, created documents, etc.
Which distro? Which window manager/desktop? You weren't trying to run a full KDE/Gnome environment on the thing, were you?
There's plenty of ways to optimize the PS3 Linux experience, shutting down unecessary services, not using GDM and booting straight into a text console, using Fluxbox, enabling VRAM swap, using lightweight applications, all sorts of easy things. I know because I've done it, and have Yellow Dog Linux 6.2 installed on mine.
It's also kind of funny that people are saying 256MB isn't enough when that was a common amount for WinXP machines to have not so many years ago.
You do know that Linux on the PS3 works similar to a "dual-boot" sort of thing? You can boot between what Sony calls OtherOS (Linux) and GameOS (the PS3's regular functionality) as you desire.
It's all about added functionality. Imagine a 1 PC household, yes, it seems Slashdot readers have a dozen PC's and a rack of servers in the garage, but most families don't. Imagine the PC is occupied and you want to read your e-mail and print some documents yourself and say you've got a PS3. It essentially means you don't just have 1 PC, you have two.
Pointless?
A PS3 with a Linux install on it adds even more functionality to the thing. GameOS's Netfront is sucky, but under Linux you've got Firefox and Opera. GameOS can't view and print PDF's but you can under Linux. You've got all the usual 'nix tools and whatnot, LaTeX, vim, gcc, nethack. One of the first things I did when I got my PS3 was download YDL and install it.
Though I freely admit I had Linux on my PS2 as well.
Yep, that trick is supported in YDL 6.1 and 6.2
You can run win95/98 under QEMU on the PS3 under Linux. Diablo is playable, seems to run full speed. Funny thing is, Fallout 1 under DOSBOX isn't playable at full speed.
But you can already play NOLF and Red Alert on a PS3, natively. NOLF had a PS2 port and Red Alert was ported to the PSone (and is now available for download for PS3/PSP via PSN)
There is no european import tax on consoles...not anymore. There was, but it went away very early in the PS2's life, pre Linux on the PS2 in fact.
No, that tariff has been gone for years. It was Yabasic on the PS2 that was the attempt, the tariff disappeared soon after, before Linux on the PS2 and PS3 were available.
no, Logo was simple programming to make pictures. The turtle was a drawing point, whether on screen or paper.
Don't know how much it is in Euros, but considering it's a blu-ray player AND has media capabilities, AND plays games, it's a better deal. It "should" even play your DivX files on those DVD's but since it does DLNA it can just play them directly from your PC.
Why would you buy a product in this day and age that doesn't support the most ubiquitous and popular portable video format: MP4. It's not a fancy new format. there were portable devices playing both MP4 ASP and H.264 AVC in 2004.
Not going to happen, it's the preferred pirate distribution format.
A PS3 is what you need, and H.264 isn't new. I've had an H.264 playing device since 2005! (PSP).
Considering that the Sony PSP, which came out in 2005, and the Sony PS3 (2006) both have H.264 support, and that hte video iPods have it as well. I would think that H.264 support in devices easily surpasses DivX
I don't rip DVD's, but if I did I would rip only to H.264 AVC Main Profile Level 2 or 3 with CABAC in 720x480 resolution, bitrate of 2Mbsec, though that's overkill for DVD, but the PSP could handle it.
What, the receiver in your example doesn't have optical or coaxial digital? Why not HDMI > TV > coaxial out> receiver
I like Mr. Gutsy's lines a bit better than Liberty Prime's
The problem is, the last couple of GT's seem to be designed with the assumption that the player is using a wheel. I bet I could actually beat some of those "impossible" license tests with a wheel, that I simply can't do with the dual shock.
The Gran Turismo devs are always overpromising. Didn't they promise online play with GT4 on the PS2?
That wikipedia page you link to on GT PSP notes that it IS possible to play the game online via the PS3 application Adhoc Party. Course, you need a PS3 using a wired connection to the internet to use that, since it uses the wireless to connect with the PSP. The only reason I can use adhoc party is because I have my PS3 connected to a switch that has a wireless bridge attached to it. (had the bridge for the PS2)
Yes, but the college dorm semi-permanent LAN PC/Xbox setup probably outnumbers the traditional LAN Party. For one, it's easier to setup and organize since everyone is already there.
Whether it works or not It might depend on how powerful the CPU is in the standalone BD player is. The PS3 has very very good BD-J perfromance.
Hulu used to work, but then the media companies found out that people were watching Hulu on PS3's connected to TV's and their agreements for streaming rights were for computers connected to monitors. Silly, I know, but the media companies view the living room and the desk as separate markets.
Sony ought to add an option to the web browser to change the User Agent, because that's how their blocking PS3's.
The PS3's CPU "is" used during blu-ray playback, which is why the PS3 has very very good BD-J performance. How many standalone blu-ray players have a 3.2 GHz hyperthreaded, with altivec CPU with 7 powerful SPE's with cycles to burn.
Ha ha ha ha. I WISH Home was more like SL, then I might use it more often. That said, that new Salt Shooter game in SodiumOne is fun. And So is saucer pop.
Content in SL is dynamic, can change at anytime, so they have to stream it. In less than a minute I could have a cape cod type house rezzed and seconds later replace it with a victorian cottage. Same goes for avatar customization.
The usability limit seems about 20 these days. It's higher in some regions than others. Some regions are usable at 40, some get laggy at 10.