You've mentioned the comic book thing before. You know the All New All Different characters are temporary right? Some of these characters have had temp replacements before, after all RiRi is not the first african american to wear the Iron Man armor. Besides how many more times can they use the Tony relapses into alcoholism bit.
And Jane Foster (who was once bonded to Sif by the way) is not the first person to replace Thor for a goodly period of time before Thor takes up the mantle again. And she's practically the best choice, having bravely and courageously helped Donald Blake/Thor for YEARS.
And Amadeus Cho is an AMERICAN of korean ancestry.
As for sales tanking, comic sales are higher than they were in 2001. And I'd like to see your numbers...and if they include digital. Because most people DON'T have access to print comics, that's the real reason sales are lower not some kind of SJW plot.
In case you haven't checked how much land 300K acres actually is.
Perhaps the corporate farm can't get zoning not because of "dem damn librul democrats" but more the fact that 300K acres is 468 square miles, meaning basically the equivalent of a square piece of land of 21.5 miles by 21.5 miles. Notice the word, MILES.
Perhaps the farm already consumes so much land that there isn't anymore to spare.. That acreage is larger than some entire COUNTIES.
The corporate farm I work for has about 300k acres, and we want to do that but we're mostly in Democrat-ruled areas so we can't get the zoning done.
Perhaps you can't get zoning not because of "dem damn librul democrats" but more the fact that 300K acres is 468 square miles, meaning basically the equivalent of a square piece of land of 21.5 miles by 21.5 miles. Notice the word, MILES.
Perhaps the farm already consumes so much land that there isn't anymore to spare for you. That acreage is larger than some entire COUNTIES.
Why? Really, Why are you wondering? it is fucking Star Trek. One of the most famous media franchises on the ENTIRE PLANET.
A fucking RL astronaut wore a Voyager uniform on the International Space Station......a FEMALE astronaut. http://www.space.com/29161-ast...
The fucking Dalai Lama has visited the set.
ST:TNG is on RIGHT NOW on BBC America, episode that first aired 27 years ago. When I first watched ST, the oldest episodes were only 8 years old.
There have been games both tabletop and electronic inspired by and based on Star Trek ever since 1965. I personally play Star Trek Online on the PS4.
Star Trek has had MANY novels based on the various series...and some NOT based directly on the series, but showcasing OTHER vessels.
This is a franchise that has lasted 50 years. It survived the Animated Series, The Motionless Picture and the trainwreck that was V and You are wondering if anyone will watch the show? That will be able to be seen in 190 countries?
I know you're wanting justification for your "Star Trek belongs to white male nerds" mindset.
Just stop, really, stop. Star Trek belongs to everyone, its fandom is and always has been diverse for the TV shows and books. Star Trek is not just for basement dwelling nerds, can't you get it through your head?
I would really love to see a series again that isn't concerned with not huwting a widdle feeling but actually manages to deliver an entertaining plot and convincing characters. Yes, that includes that characters have flaws and will face obstacles. Because without it is the same bland bullshit we've been fed time and again recently. I don't want a feelgood show, I want one where I can actually have some emotional attachments to the characters because they are human.
I'm sorry, are we watching the same modern TV? Did you time travel from an alternate universe or something? Modern TV most certainly has characters with flaws and obstacles. I think you're letting your subconscious biases cause you to look at the past with rose colored glasses and overlook some of the great modern TV.
There has always been badly plotted and badly characterized drek, it's not just an "SJW caused problem" as you seem to think.
Yes. Lots of things that used to pander to me, like comic books, they replaced with stuff that panders to someone else and changed the plots to revolve around how people like me are evil.
Why should comics pander to YOU specifically, why can't they be for EVERYONE? What makes you, the white male nerd who calls others "normies" such a "special snowflake"
When my white male nerd power fantasy show has the white male nerds replaced with black women, it kind of makes me wonder what the plots are going to be like.
What? Star Trek wasn't supposed to be a Nerd Power Fantasy show, the entire premise is one of Tolerance, Justice, mercy, compassion, the search for knowledge, helping others. Star Trek NEVER belonged to just one group of fans. So you've decided against a show...JUST because it doesn't have someone who looks like you in the Captains chair?
Hey, maybe you shouldn't have watched TOS because after all, Shatner, Nimoy, Koenig AND Roddenberry are Jewish, and thusly not like you.
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Why are you blaming SJW's for changes due to Capitalism? There's more money in making shows for EVERYONE, not just the stereotypical neckbearded fedora wearing, linux using aspies who call others "normies"
I say that as someone who DOES have "asperger's features" and DOES use Linux.
nerd moment... it is Tellarites...but I am not a Trekkie.
IIRC either the Blish novelization of Turnabout Intruder or some of the early novels said there WERE female captains in Kirk's time, it's just that Janice Lester got diagnosed with a mental disorder (maybe adult manifesting paranoid-schizophrenia that they couldn't cure) and was kicked out of Starfleet.
Then the normies suddenly got their paws all over the franchises, make them shit because of the writing and the plots, shoehorn in "diversity" and then when the nerds complain "this is a bad show" they accuse us of racism and sexism.
It's just more nerd bullying. When we were watching shows about space and aliens with a diverse cast 20 years ago, they were pushing us into lockers for liking all that nerd shit. Now they've taken over all the nerd shit, made it crappy, and are bullying us for not liking it. The one constant is you can heap any amount of abuse you want on low social value males.
20 years ago was 1997, the internet was being hyped, there wasn't much nerd bullying. Even back in 85 there wasn't all that much.
I'm going to quote an AC at you:
And this is where a lot of the animosity by borderline autistic nerdy white males complaining about 'social justice' or whatever is sourced from. For years, the socially inept physically unimpressive dorks had refuges in their various obsessions. But now social media has allowed 'normies' to express their enjoyment of pop cultural phenomenons, and a societal focus on embracing technology even allows them to participate without have to adhere to idiotic concepts of nerd social hierarchy. It's as if the losers are angry that their stereotyping has been taken from them, and they now have to rely on personality alone...
I remembered the scenes in general, but only remembered the exact dialog for the Uhura-Sulu scene and Lincoln's "charming negress" line. There is one other that I thought of after the fact:
When Uhura got her brain scrambled by the probe Nomad, she ended up in sickbay having to relearn things. (IIRC the Blish novelization says she didn't lose her memories, just some of the connections between them....lost the novelizations in a move) A scene happens where she is being taught reading (in English) and is having bit of trouble she speaks Swahili at Nurse Chapel who says something like "Not Swahili, in English". Uhura looks at the page and says something about a ball.
The book I remembered because I owned it at one time, lost it in the same move as above, had to look up the authors to be sure though I did remember that Marshak was one of them.
Gender is what is in your head, not your genetics, join the 21st century sometime.
What you are describing are called intersex conditions.
And before you go on some kind of anti-SJW/hipster/milleniel/snowflake/GLBT rant, "the trans" has been around throughout human history. In fact one of the seminal works about it was written over a century ago, in 1910. This isn't some "new" thing being "forced" on you here.
NEW âoeSTAR TREKâ TELEVISION SERIES COMING IN 2017!
The Next Chapter of the Legendary âoeStar Trekâ TV Franchise Will Premiere on the CBS Television Network, Then Move to CBS All Access Digital Subscription Service
Alex Kurtzman, Co-Writer and Producer of the Blockbuster Films âoeStar Trekâ and âoeStar Trek Into Darkness,â to Executive Produce
CBS Studios International to Distribute the Series Globally For Television and Multiple Platforms
STUDIO CITY, CALIF. AND NEW YORK, N.Y. â" Nov. 2, 2015 â" CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new âoeStar Trekâ television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Networkâ(TM)s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.
The next chapter of the âoeStar Trekâ franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.
The new program will be the first original series developed specifically for U.S. audiences for CBS All Access, a cross-platform streaming service that brings viewers thousands of episodes from CBSâ(TM)s current and past seasons on demand, plus the ability to stream their local CBS Television station live for $5.99 per month. CBS All Access already offers every episode of all previous âoeStar Trekâ television series.
The brand-new âoeStar Trekâ will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966.
Alex Kurtzman will serve as executive producer for the new âoeStar Trekâ TV series. Kurtzman co-wrote and produced the blockbuster films âoeStar Trekâ (2009) with Roberto Orci, and âoeStar Trek Into Darknessâ (2013) with Orci and Damon Lindelof. Both films were produced and directed by J.J. Abrams.
The new series will be produced by CBS Television Studios in association with Kurtzmanâ(TM)s Secret Hideout. Kurtzman and Heather Kadin will serve as executive producers. Kurtzman is also an executive producer for the hit CBS television series SCORPION and LIMITLESS, along with Kadin and Orci, and for HAWAII FIVE-0 with Orci.
âoeStar Trek,â which will celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2016, is one of the most successful entertainment franchises of all time. The original âoeStar Trekâ spawned a dozen feature films and five successful television series. Almost half a century later, the âoeStar Trekâ television series are licensed on a variety of different platforms in more than 190 countries, and the franchise still generates more than a billion social media impressions every month.
Born from the mind of Gene Roddenberry, the original âoeStar Trekâ series debuted on Sept. 8, 1966 and aired for three seasons â" a short run that belied the influence it would have for generations. The series also broke new ground in storytelling and cultural mores, providing a progressive look at topics including race relations, global politics and the environment.
âoeThere is no better time to give âStar Trekâ(TM) fans a new series than on the heels of the original showâ(TM)s 50th anniversary celebration,â said David Stapf, President, CBS Television Studios. âoeEveryone here has great respect for this storied franchise, and weâ(TM)re excited to launch its next television chapter in the creative mind and skilled hands of Alex Kurtzman, someone who knows this world and its audience intimately.â
âoeThis new series will premiere to the national CBS audience, then boldly go where
What bothers me is that it becomes the focus of the show. We're not exploring exciting new worlds, we're exploring our feelings and how others hurt them.
You got all that from the trailer, really? Before any episode of the show has aired? Don't you think you're letting your subconscious biases run amuck here?
I point you to my previous response to you in regards to Star Trek fandom and I must admit that I am VERY suprised as nerd that YOU didn't already know all of that as a nerd. Hand in your nerd card.
Star Trek doesn't "belong" just to white male basement dwelling nerd virgins.
I think your subconscious biases towards wanting to see characters look like you is making you see patterns that aren't there.
After all there were plenty of low-budget badly written and plotted white male muscle-y dude with a buzzcut beats up faceless commies/ islamic terrorist movies over the past decades but that was okay?
But there's a non-white/non-male person in the captains chair in the new Star Trek show and it's the end of Nerdosity as we know it?
Perhaps YOU are the snowflake that wants to be pandered to.
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Number 1. Is hard because Sony is dealing with 3 architectures: MIPS, Cell/PPC, and X86_64. Sony made PS2's compatible by including the PSones CPU
Early model PS3's have PS2 CPU'S and GPU's
Sony already does number 2.
You've mentioned the comic book thing before. You know the All New All Different characters are temporary right? Some of these characters have had temp replacements before, after all RiRi is not the first african american to wear the Iron Man armor. Besides how many more times can they use the Tony relapses into alcoholism bit.
And Jane Foster (who was once bonded to Sif by the way) is not the first person to replace Thor for a goodly period of time before Thor takes up the mantle again. And she's practically the best choice, having bravely and courageously helped Donald Blake/Thor for YEARS.
And Amadeus Cho is an AMERICAN of korean ancestry.
As for sales tanking, comic sales are higher than they were in 2001. And I'd like to see your numbers...and if they include digital. Because most people DON'T have access to print comics, that's the real reason sales are lower not some kind of SJW plot.
In case you haven't checked how much land 300K acres actually is.
Perhaps the corporate farm can't get zoning not because of "dem damn librul democrats" but more the fact that 300K acres is 468 square miles, meaning basically the equivalent of a square piece of land of 21.5 miles by 21.5 miles. Notice the word, MILES.
Perhaps the farm already consumes so much land that there isn't anymore to spare.. That acreage is larger than some entire COUNTIES.
The corporate farm I work for has about 300k acres, and we want to do that but we're mostly in Democrat-ruled areas so we can't get the zoning done.
Perhaps you can't get zoning not because of "dem damn librul democrats" but more the fact that 300K acres is 468 square miles, meaning basically the equivalent of a square piece of land of 21.5 miles by 21.5 miles. Notice the word, MILES.
Perhaps the farm already consumes so much land that there isn't anymore to spare for you. That acreage is larger than some entire COUNTIES.
Why? Really, Why are you wondering? it is fucking Star Trek. One of the most famous media franchises on the ENTIRE PLANET.
A fucking RL astronaut wore a Voyager uniform on the International Space Station......a FEMALE astronaut. http://www.space.com/29161-ast...
The fucking Dalai Lama has visited the set.
ST:TNG is on RIGHT NOW on BBC America, episode that first aired 27 years ago. When I first watched ST, the oldest episodes were only 8 years old.
There have been games both tabletop and electronic inspired by and based on Star Trek ever since 1965. I personally play Star Trek Online on the PS4.
Star Trek has had MANY novels based on the various series...and some NOT based directly on the series, but showcasing OTHER vessels.
This is a franchise that has lasted 50 years. It survived the Animated Series, The Motionless Picture and the trainwreck that was V and You are wondering if anyone will watch the show? That will be able to be seen in 190 countries?
What is wrong with you?
I know you're wanting justification for your "Star Trek belongs to white male nerds" mindset.
Just stop, really, stop. Star Trek belongs to everyone, its fandom is and always has been diverse for the TV shows and books. Star Trek is not just for basement dwelling nerds, can't you get it through your head?
I would really love to see a series again that isn't concerned with not huwting a widdle feeling but actually manages to deliver an entertaining plot and convincing characters. Yes, that includes that characters have flaws and will face obstacles. Because without it is the same bland bullshit we've been fed time and again recently. I don't want a feelgood show, I want one where I can actually have some emotional attachments to the characters because they are human.
I'm sorry, are we watching the same modern TV? Did you time travel from an alternate universe or something? Modern TV most certainly has characters with flaws and obstacles. I think you're letting your subconscious biases cause you to look at the past with rose colored glasses and overlook some of the great modern TV.
There has always been badly plotted and badly characterized drek, it's not just an "SJW caused problem" as you seem to think.
Yes. Lots of things that used to pander to me, like comic books, they replaced with stuff that panders to someone else and changed the plots to revolve around how people like me are evil.
Why should comics pander to YOU specifically, why can't they be for EVERYONE? What makes you, the white male nerd who calls others "normies" such a "special snowflake"
When my white male nerd power fantasy show has the white male nerds replaced with black women, it kind of makes me wonder what the plots are going to be like.
What? Star Trek wasn't supposed to be a Nerd Power Fantasy show, the entire premise is one of Tolerance, Justice, mercy, compassion, the search for knowledge, helping others. Star Trek NEVER belonged to just one group of fans. So you've decided against a show...JUST because it doesn't have someone who looks like you in the Captains chair?
Hey, maybe you shouldn't have watched TOS because after all, Shatner, Nimoy, Koenig AND Roddenberry are Jewish, and thusly not like you.
but my expectations are low because Hollywood SJWs.
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Why are you blaming SJW's for changes due to Capitalism? There's more money in making shows for EVERYONE, not just the stereotypical neckbearded fedora wearing, linux using aspies who call others "normies"
I say that as someone who DOES have "asperger's features" and DOES use Linux.
In fact it was the Dark Age that lowered sale comic books, before that readership was higher AND more diverse, so you can't blame SJW's.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...
Besides comic sales today are HIGHER than they were in 2001.
I think you're looking at the past with rose colored glasses. Plenty of modern TV shows and movies have characters with flaws.
Besides there was plenty of dreck in the past that everyone forgets because it doesn't get re-run.
Don't forget her Rihannsu series!
That's my point, you were right.
How? All I did was point out HIS subconscious bigotry, which isn't racist no matter what you alt-right/gamergater/anti-SJW's think.
What does an eyelash curler look like centuries in the future?
Probably the same, the things have looked pretty much the same ever since they were invented in 1931
It is not that uncommon, didn't you ever watch "The Waltons or "Nurse"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
or "ER" or "Homicide Life on the Street"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
explaining that it was due to the Telerites
nerd moment... it is Tellarites...but I am not a Trekkie.
IIRC either the Blish novelization of Turnabout Intruder or some of the early novels said there WERE female captains in Kirk's time, it's just that Janice Lester got diagnosed with a mental disorder (maybe adult manifesting paranoid-schizophrenia that they couldn't cure) and was kicked out of Starfleet.
Then the normies suddenly got their paws all over the franchises, make them shit because of the writing and the plots, shoehorn in "diversity" and then when the nerds complain "this is a bad show" they accuse us of racism and sexism.
It's just more nerd bullying. When we were watching shows about space and aliens with a diverse cast 20 years ago, they were pushing us into lockers for liking all that nerd shit. Now they've taken over all the nerd shit, made it crappy, and are bullying us for not liking it. The one constant is you can heap any amount of abuse you want on low social value males.
20 years ago was 1997, the internet was being hyped, there wasn't much nerd bullying. Even back in 85 there wasn't all that much.
I'm going to quote an AC at you:
I've always wondered if Roddenberry had a "thing" for Diana Muldaur as well.
I remembered the scenes in general, but only remembered the exact dialog for the Uhura-Sulu scene and Lincoln's "charming negress" line. There is one other that I thought of after the fact:
When Uhura got her brain scrambled by the probe Nomad, she ended up in sickbay having to relearn things. (IIRC the Blish novelization says she didn't lose her memories, just some of the connections between them....lost the novelizations in a move) A scene happens where she is being taught reading (in English) and is having bit of trouble she speaks Swahili at Nurse Chapel who says something like "Not Swahili, in English". Uhura looks at the page and says something about a ball.
The book I remembered because I owned it at one time, lost it in the same move as above, had to look up the authors to be sure though I did remember that Marshak was one of them.
Gender is what is in your head, not your genetics, join the 21st century sometime.
What you are describing are called intersex conditions.
And before you go on some kind of anti-SJW/hipster/milleniel/snowflake/GLBT rant, "the trans" has been around throughout human history. In fact one of the seminal works about it was written over a century ago, in 1910. This isn't some "new" thing being "forced" on you here.
Pasting it, again:
But the Star Trek audience is white male nerds.
Shakes head sadly at your lack of knowledge again, points to earlier response.
What bothers me is that it becomes the focus of the show. We're not exploring exciting new worlds, we're exploring our feelings and how others hurt them.
You got all that from the trailer, really? Before any episode of the show has aired? Don't you think you're letting your subconscious biases run amuck here?
I point you to my previous response to you in regards to Star Trek fandom and I must admit that I am VERY suprised as nerd that YOU didn't already know all of that as a nerd. Hand in your nerd card.
Star Trek doesn't "belong" just to white male basement dwelling nerd virgins.
I think your subconscious biases towards wanting to see characters look like you is making you see patterns that aren't there.
After all there were plenty of low-budget badly written and plotted white male muscle-y dude with a buzzcut beats up faceless commies/ islamic terrorist movies over the past decades but that was okay?
But there's a non-white/non-male person in the captains chair in the new Star Trek show and it's the end of Nerdosity as we know it?
Perhaps YOU are the snowflake that wants to be pandered to.