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  1. Else they would have been up in arms about Sisko and Janeway, too.

    You don't remember? The dudebro demographic WAS up in arms about Sisko and Janeway back in the day.

    Look, we are so cool, hip and progressive, we have a black captain, look at her, she is so great, she is so awesome, she is so black and she is so female!

    Yes. We got it. We don't give a shit. Can we now have, you know, A PLOT?

    You're making those statements based on just the trailer you know, perhaps you shouldn't prejudge the series based on the casting....or you might just come across as one of those alt-right ant-SJW types desperately trying to not appear as one, but who really is one.

    Just sayin.

  2. Since I'm a white male, I can't relate so well to the struggles of the strong independent black and asian wymynz running the spaceship, so I probably won't find it interesting.

    Really? Did you just dismiss a show just because it doesn't have someone who looks like you in the captains chair?

    This show is not directed at me, it's directed at the little black and asian girls who want to fly a spaceship, and I'm fine with that.

    Really? Did you not watch Men in Black because Will Smith was the star? Did you not watch DS9 or Voyager? Did you not watch the original trek because Roddenberry, Shatner, Nimoy and Koenig were Jewish?

  3. Dude, did you just time travel from before Star Trek? Women have been HEAVILY involved in Star Trek fandom since the beginning!

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/...!

    Note that the book's authors are: Jacqueline Lichtenberg, Sondra Marshak, and Joan Winston.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Star Trek: The New Voyages (1976) is an anthology of short fiction based on Star Trek edited by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath featuring work by fan fiction authors.[clarification needed] It was the first Star Trek short story collection, and the first original Star Trek prose to be published since Spock Must Die! published in 1970. The commissioning editor was Frederik Pohl, at Bantam Books. It was followed in 1978 by Star Trek: The New Voyages 2.[1]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Star Trek: The New Voyages 2 edited by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath was the 1978 followup to the 1976 anthology Star Trek: The New Voyages. The editors contributed stories to the anthology, and had previously published a Star Trek novel, The Price of the Phoenix.

    Of the first 10 of Pocket's Star Trek books, starting with the novelization of the Motion picture, only 3 were written by men.

    Of the next 10, only 4 were written by men.

    A slightly more accurate stereotype of Star Trek fans would be "white female slashfic writers"

    I kid I kid.

  4. But if the racial mix is overwhelmingly nonwhite

    Dude Humanity is overwhelmingly non-white and this is a also a show set in multi-species FEDERATION for goshsakes.

    then that's going to make the show differ from most of what's on television (except for shows targeted at specific racial groups) and cause some people to feel upset about it.

    Some people meaning....racists?

  5. This cast is actually demographically MORE natural than any of the other casts and it STILL doesn't reflect the reality of human demographics. You know, the demographics of there being over a BILLION Chinese people and close to a Billion people in India?

    The only one playing the victim here, is you.

  6. Why do you feel excluded? I mean after all, women outnumber men on our planet, and there are more non-white people than white people. Are you saying that as a white male, your kind should be "favored"

    See, that's the problem, you WERE and still are to a certain extent and you don't even realize it.

    And now, you see a few non-white/non-male faces on a TV show that you subconsciously think "belongs" to white male nerds and get all butthurt.

    Who is being the special snowflake here?

  7. Marvel Comics has taken a HUGE financial hit from switching almost all of their main characters over to females and minorities in the last few years.

    That's an exaggeration, there have been some "temporary" fill ins. Don't worry, dudebro, you'll still be able to have your comics with some overly muscled guy with pouches, a grimace, a sword AND a claw AND guns and a cyberlimb going all grimdark on everyone. "GRR I'm so grimdark and anti-heroic GRRR, my female partner with one half of her body pink and one half purple has breasts like volleyballs, GRRR. I'm DETHKYLL SLYCEBLUD and I rule!"

    (we're talking monthly sales of under 20,000 for titles that used to routinely sell in the 900,000+ range in their heydey).

    That's taken out of context and you know it, because you're comparing sales today to sales in the 80's/early 90's when comics sold more overall. And the decline is because of comics going all grimdark and dork age during the 90's not SJW's.

  8. Go ahead and call him a liar, because THIS is the original press release:

    https://www.cbspressexpress.co...

  9. That statement obviously isn't a press release or it would not say "have not been revealed" but some news outlet making conjecture based on what information they had at the time.

    THIS is the original press release, you will note that the sentence you supposedly quote:

    and that the lead character will be a young woman, likely non-white,

    do not appear...at all.

    https://www.cbspressexpress.co...

    NEW âoeSTAR TREKâ TELEVISION SERIES COMING IN 2017!

    The Next Chapter of the Legendary âoeStar Trekâ TV Franchise Will Premiere on the
    CBS Television Network, Then Move to CBS All Access Digital Subscription Service

    Alex Kurtzman, Co-Writer and Producer of the Blockbuster Films
    âoeStar Trekâ and âoeStar Trek Into Darkness,â to Executive Produce

    CBS Studios International to Distribute the Series Globally
    For Television and Multiple Platforms

    STUDIO CITY, CALIF. AND NEW YORK, N.Y. â" Nov. 2, 2015 â" CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new âoeStar Trekâ television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Networkâ(TM)s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.

    The next chapter of the âoeStar Trekâ franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.

    The new program will be the first original series developed specifically for U.S. audiences for CBS All Access, a cross-platform streaming service that brings viewers thousands of episodes from CBSâ(TM)s current and past seasons on demand, plus the ability to stream their local CBS Television station live for $5.99 per month. CBS All Access already offers every episode of all previous âoeStar Trekâ television series.

    The brand-new âoeStar Trekâ will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966.

    Alex Kurtzman will serve as executive producer for the new âoeStar Trekâ TV series. Kurtzman co-wrote and produced the blockbuster films âoeStar Trekâ (2009) with Roberto Orci, and âoeStar Trek Into Darknessâ (2013) with Orci and Damon Lindelof. Both films were produced and directed by J.J. Abrams.

    The new series will be produced by CBS Television Studios in association with Kurtzmanâ(TM)s Secret Hideout. Kurtzman and Heather Kadin will serve as executive producers. Kurtzman is also an executive producer for the hit CBS television series SCORPION and LIMITLESS, along with Kadin and Orci, and for HAWAII FIVE-0 with Orci.

    âoeStar Trek,â which will celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2016, is one of the most successful entertainment franchises of all time. The original âoeStar Trekâ spawned a dozen feature films and five successful television series. Almost half a century later, the âoeStar Trekâ television series are licensed on a variety of different platforms in more than 190 countries, and the franchise still generates more than a billion social media impressions every month.

    Born from the mind of Gene Roddenberry, the original âoeStar Trekâ series debuted on Sept. 8, 1966 and aired for three seasons â" a short run that belied the influence it would have for generations. The series also broke new ground in storytelling and cultural mores, providing a progressive look at topics including race relations, global politics and the environment.

    âoeThere is no better t

  10. They were diverse, but up until Voyager, they weren't pushing an agenda.......Voyager felt very forced; black vulcan, woman half Klingon, native american. As though there were trying to make a point of how diverse they were being, rather than just being diverse."

    Ah ha so you were one of these guys, (quoting myself)

    "There were plenty of male fans complaining about Janeway, Sisko, Tuvok, and B'lanna, comments about feminism invading star trek or "affirmative action" casting. I even read comments about how there weren't any "black vulcans""

    Dude...our entire Planet is diverse. There's over a billion Chinese and close a Billion people in India....and having a "black vulcan" and a "half klingon" is "very forced" in a Federation composed of a HUGE number of planets and races?

    YOU, dudebro, are the whiny snowflake.

  11. AFAICT, the only two human white guys in the cast are an Academy cadet and a science officer

    This is Star Trek, Earth is only one planet in a HUGE Federation...by all rights, there SHOULD be FEWER human white guys.

    Pretty sure that cadet's days are numbered too, or it will turn out that he's a villain, or an alien, or a transsexual, or gay.

    I'm transgender myself and you're all butthurt because ONE character on this show, after having Star Trek be around for over 50 years, is gay?

    Don't be a bigoted jerk, it goes against EVERYTHING Star Trek stands for.

  12. The Star Trek universe and fans had no problem with Captain Janeway,

    That's revisionist history. There were plenty of male fans complaining about Janeway, Sisko, Tuvok, and B'lanna, comments about feminism invading star trek or "affirmative action" casting. I even read comments about how there weren't any "black vulcans"

    * How many episodes feature themes of "social justice"? Because everyone who is a fan of TOS, TNG, DS9, and Voyager will puke.

    You obviously were only paying attention to the phaser blasts, explosions, the Theiss costumes on the women, if you don't realize how much all Star Trek is about Social Justice.

    Why do we know the sexual orientation of anyone in the series? Not one single person on any other Star Trek episode or movie ever announced their sexual orientation.

    The announced their orientation by their VERY actions. Kirk and various women, McCoy and "Nancy" in "The Man Trap" and Uhura in the same episode, Spock and Lela, Scotty and his girlfriend, Chekov and that girl in "The Apple". For goshsakes a couple got MARRIED on the ship in "Balance of Terror"

    You're so clueless you didn't even realize that heterosexuals do their announcing ALL THE TIME and don't even realize it.

  13. What they didn't do before now was to feel exclusive of anyone who can't check off their proper SJW victimhood credentials.

    Why do you feel excluded? Really, there's white guys in that trailer, a LOT of them. For Goshsakes, there's over a BILLION people in China...there should be a LOT more chinese faces. Hell, did you hate on Firefly with all the Chinese influences?

    Geez louise, is the very presence of non-white/non-male characters that troubling to some people? I think it takes a special kind of "snowflake"..., to be that troubled by just SEEING non-male/non-white faces

    You know what, all this anti-SJW stuff is basically a bunch of white guys complaining because having an african-american president and a woman running for said office "bothered" them on a subconsciously racist level.

    Those guys may not be "actively" bigoted, but the changes in society over time bothered them on a subconsciously bigoted level. And other things also subconsciously bothered them.

    more visible ethnic minorites in leading roles

    more women in leading roles

    women in leadership positions in business and politics

    women criticizing developer stupidity in the medium that you subconsciously think of as "belonging to guys"

    You get the picture. It's why the gamergaters often used "invaders" language in regards to women.

    Heck, in this very discussion I've seen Meta-monkey claim that Star Trek is basically a guy thing... for goshsakes, Star Trek of all things. Well known for having a large fanbase of women since the 60's!

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/...!

    Note that the book's authors are: Jacqueline Lichtenberg, Sondra Marshak, and Joan Winston.

    It saddens me to think of a Star Trek universe where this lifelong fan is villainized just because I was born with white skin and a dick.

    No one would villainize you, if you didn't hop on the anti-SJW bandwagon because you're subconsciously BOTHERED seeing a few less white male faces.

  14. What movie? What are you talking about, the trailer for the SERIES?

    Geez louise, is the very presence of non-white/non-male characters that troubling to some people? I think it takes a special kind of "snowflake"..., to be that troubled by just SEEING non-male/non-white faces without any dialog to back up the justification for "dozen sledgehammers"

  15. It's Starfleet. There's a selection process.

    And note that the other candidates are:

    A Human woman, Oliana Mirren (the character became an Ops officer under Captain Dax on the Aventine)

    A Vulcan woman, T'Shanik (the character became flight controller on the Excalibur)

    A Benzite male, Mordock.

    Also note that one of the tests was to see if candidate Crusher would notice a minor difference of anatomy (webbed hands), and realize that someone who bumped into him wasn't human, but a near-human alien and know/remember the customs of that species.

  16. You did notice that it was one kiss in one episode of a 200+ episode show, I am confident.

    Yes, that kiss that was so unimportant that some TV stations across the South refused to show the episode with it. You forgot the context of HISTORY!

    Having Uhura...on the bridge as a comissioned officer itself was a HUGE statement in the context of HISTORY.,

    How soon we forget.

  17. Hammering it home would have meant that they used every other episode to showcase how they're not as backwards as they "used to be" (read: as they are in the 1960s) and making a point about Uhura being black. Actually, I don't even remember a single occasion where her skin color became an issue in the show.

    While her skin color/ethnicity might not have been an issue it was brought up in the show.

    SULU: Iâ(TM)ll protect you, fair maiden!
    UHURA: Sorry, neither.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    KIRK: Lieutenant Uhura of communications.
    TRELANE: Ah a Nubian prize. (he kisses her hand) Taken on one of your raids of conquest, no doubt, Captain.
    KIRK: No doubt.

    UHURA (to crewmen) The door to my quarters still rattles when it opens. Would you stop by and see if you can do something about it? Thanks, Bobby. (Green changes into African crewman) Crewman, do I know you?
    CREWMAN: In a way, ma'am. You were just thinking of someone like me. I'm guessing of course, but you do look a little lonely.
    UHURA: I see. So naturally, when I'm lonely I think of you.
    CREWMAN: Ina cuvanea mwanamke turee.
    UHURA: Una kafeeri Hur. You're Swahili?

    You can't really say that about the more recent past, even in TNG we had to be lectured about how backwards humans were (read: are in the reality) and how lucky they are that they overcame it.

    Aren't we backwards? and will we not be judged by our descendants like we judge our predecessors for their failings?

    Take a hint. People don't like being lectured. It creates resistance.

    You know what, all this anti-SJW stuff is basically a bunch of white guys complaining because having an african-american president and a woman running for said office "bothered" them on a subconsciously racist level.

    Those guys may not be "actively" bigoted, but the changes in society over time bothered them on a subconsciously bigoted level. And other things also subconsciously bothered them.

    more visible ethnic minorites in leading roles

    more women in leading roles

    women in leadership positions in business and politics

    women criticizing developer stupidity in the medium that you subconsciously think of as "belonging to guys"

    You get the picture. It's why the gamergaters often used "invaders" language in regards to women.

    Heck, in this very discussion I've seen Meta-monkey claim that Star Trek is basically a guy thing... for goshsakes, Star Trek of all things. Well known for having a large fanbase of women since the 60's!

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/...!

    Note that the book's authors are: Jacqueline Lichtenberg, Sondra Marshak, and Joan Winston.

  18. 1. male hero falling in love with a smart blonde woman
    2. female hero falling in love with a smart blonde man
    3. male hero falling in love with a smart blonde man
    4. female hero falling in love with a smart blonde woman

  19. So... "a few too many is "just one movie that revisited a franchise with an all female cast for the main 4 characters"?

  20. we had to sit through a few too many movies where "diversity" became the main theme with everything else

    #define "few too many" and "which movies.

  21. Re: The Slip-On Space Shoes... on Star Trek Bridge Crew Gets IBM Watson-Powered Voice Commands (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    You might also imagine they would have things we already have now, or in the Call of Duty series like drones, personal shields,

    The Star Trek Online MMORPG has those.

    automated ship combat

    In the console version of STO, you can set BOFF abilities to execute based on conditions, similar to how gambits work in Final Fantasy XII.

  22. Re: Good since he supports systemd... on Debian Developer Imprisoned In Russia Over Alleged Role In Riots (itwire.com) · · Score: 4, Informative

    It doesn't actually "drop" them, it just doesn't send them to the syslogs by default. You're supposed to use journalctl to read them! The logging behavior of systemd is a configuration option

    All systemd logging can be forwarded to syslog in plain text format, standard feature enabled by a single edit in: /etc/systemd/journald.conf

    It can also be enabled on a per boot basis with a simple addition to the kernel boot parameters


        ForwardToSyslog=, ForwardToKMsg=, ForwardToConsole=, ForwardToWall=
                                                Control whether log messages received by the journal daemon shall
                                                be forwarded to a traditional syslog daemon, to the kernel log
                                                buffer (kmsg), to the system console, or sent as wall messages to
                                                all logged-in users. These options take boolean arguments. If
                                                forwarding to syslog is enabled but nothing reads messages from the
                                                socket, forwarding to syslog has no effect. By default, only
                                                forwarding to wall is enabled. These settings may be overridden at
                                                boot time with the kernel command line options
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_syslog=",
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_kmsg=",
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_console=", and
                                                "systemd.journald.forward_to_wall=". When forwarding to the
                                                console, the TTY to log to can be changed with TTYPath=, described
                                                below.

  23. He's probably referring to the fact that CBM BASIC is a Microsoft BASIC dialect.

  24. Re:Atari 2600 on Ask Slashdot: What Was Your First Home Computer? · · Score: 1

    it was actually before the 2600, I think it might have been the VCS.

    2600/VCS are two different names for the same thing. VCS was the original name then they started calling it the 2600 the year the 5200 came out.

    And my friend had a cartridge we could program basic. circa 79 - 80, but I can find no reference online that such a cartridge existed.

    It exists, IIRC it actually uses the keypad accessory...TWO of them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  25. Re:C-128 on Ask Slashdot: What Was Your First Home Computer? · · Score: 1

    No need to type "go64", just hold down the C= key, and turn it on, then it boots as a C64.