If you already have a desktop PC with a competent CPU and 8 GB of RAM or more, adding a $200 GPU will let you play essentially all games on settings equivalent to those on the consoles.
And the total cost will be MORE than a PS4. Remember, you can just run out get one for $299 at the local big box.
And if you want a large enough selection of worthwhile exclusive games to rival PC exclusives, you need both the current generation PlayStation console and the current generation Nintendo console.
Who says anyone "needs" a Nintendo machine. I've got more "worthwhile" games than I have time to play on just a PS4. Remember, "worthwhile" is an individual thing. Not everyone is stuck back in that after-school Goldeneye/Mario kart/Smash Bros mindset.
You have to pay for the fancier benefits like game demos IIRC, but that's not really relevant to this discussion. (Although, being asked to pay for game demos? Horseshit.)
Playstation users don't pay for demos, why do you think they do? Now if you want "Featured content" demos to be automatically downloaded to your machine without you doing anything....now that's a PS+ benefit.
What's actually interesting about that is that Sony themselves have a fairly good history of keeping servers up long past the point at which a game is profitable.
Except for "Home", the thing was profitable, but they dropped that thing like a rock. Funny thing is, now we have these "Home-ish/Unity-ish" things with microtransactions on PS4 like Big City Stories (aka Home Tycoon), and that Casino one (basically Home Casino), but they're separate from each other. That makes no sense to me, because they duplicate functionality! They should have been incorporated into a new version of Home on the PS4.
DESCRIPTION
Cron is started from/etc/rc.d/init.d or/etc/init.d when classical
sysvinit scripts are used. In case systemd is enabled, then unit file
is installed into/lib/systemd/system/crond.service and daemon is
started by systemctl start crond.service command. It returns immediâ
ately, thus, there is no need to need to start it with the '&' parameâ
ter.
Cron searches/var/spool/cron for crontab files which are named after
accounts in/etc/passwd; The found crontabs are loaded into the memory.
Cron also searches for/etc/anacrontab and any files in the/etc/cron.d
directory, which have a different format (see crontab(5)). Cron exam-
ines all stored crontabs and checks each job to see if it needs to be
run in the current minute. When executing commands, any output is
mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user specified in the
MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists). Any job
output can also be sent to syslog by using the -s option.
I live in a small town in Illinois surrounded by corn and soybeans.... you can get a 150/10 internet connection here from the local cable company which they charge a premium price for. I currently have the 50/5 which is more like 55/10...it is fairly priced.
The situation here is such that one of the sat TV providers has a bundle that uses the cable company for Internet. Because while the cable company's internet/phone services are of reasonably good value...their TV services aren't so much.
You'd be surprised. "Hardcore" consoles from the past decade (PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, and Xbox One) can burn 100 W or more if made before the process shrinks incorporated in "slim" redesigns.
Don't "Fat" PS3's hit more than 250W sometimes? That thing is a powersucker...I didn't leave that thing on running Linux like I did the PS2.
[quote]unless you live in a rural area, where the monthly data allowance under the "fixed monthly rate" often isn't enough to download modern games, but wireless (satellite or cellular) home Internet plans in the United States tend to run $5 per GB or more. [/quote]
Even in rural areas, most people live in the towns...and probably have access to at least DSL, if not high speed cable or fiber. Now admittedly the actual farmers who aren't close enough to get a DSL line are screwed unless they go with a Wireless ISP... I don't mean Cellular, I mean wireless ISP....they're fairly equivalent to DSL (3-7mbps)
It is if the majority of new multiplayer games
Not even taking into account multiplayer, a modern console is most useful with a high speed internet connection. Without one you're cut off from system updates, game updates, DLC, digital only games, game streaming, etc etc. I once had to sadly tell a guy interested in a PS3 that his dial-up connection wouldn't really suffice. Heck, even with the PS2 you wouldn't want dial-up.
I've always believed that those "input lag" people are basically the video game equivalent of those "gold unidirectional cables make HDMI sound warmer" people.
IIRC I once ran into a Steampunk in Second Life who did a bit of writing (participating in NaNoWriMo and such), who used Scrivener, but had dabbled a bit in IF using Inform.
I wonder if it would be possible to combine the two, using Inform to maintain a "database of attributes" for characters, locations, etc etc. Something akin to:
Aragorn is a Dunedain, Dunedain are also Numenoreans, Aragorn is the Son of Arathorn, who is also a Dunedain. Aragorn is a Descendant of Elros, Elros is the brother of Elrond. Elros has another name, Tar-Minyatur. Elros was the First King of the Numenoreans. etc etc.
online in pickup groups of strangers is for adults.
That's not what I said. I said you CAN play with random strangers but you can also FRIEND those strangers and play regularly with them if your play well together and your schedules coincide. You don't seem to understand the concept of "online friends". I've known certain people online for over a decade.
Perhaps being stuck in the past, you don't know about things like "friends lists" or "guilds" that exist in online games these days.
This is basically a handheld that you can also attach to your TV. It looks more like a rival to the PS Vita than the PS4.
It is basically a Vita and PS TV Combo. You can ALREADY do practically everything shown in the commercial with a Vita and PSTV.
EXCEPT playing a Bethesda game. Screw you Bethesda! You do a game for this thing and never get around to finishing and releasing that Elder scrolls game you had for PSP or doing a game for the Vita...not even a port?
The hypervisor IS monitoring things, but I'm not sure it's sending anything to Sony, because I'm not sure Sony knew about GeoHot's tricks before he bragged about them online.
Open an non-unity-ish or gnome3-ish terminal say xterm, rxvt or xfce-terminal or something else that won't immediately look like something running on a modern linux, run the script, take a screenshot of the terminal using imagemagick's import -window -frame feature and bingo, looks like a screenshot of someone showing they installed linux on a PS3 to a friend or message board or something.
That said, this should be a last resort if you can't find any other proof of your PS3 Linux usage.
For example if you keep IRC logs, any CTCP version of a PS3 Linux user running Xchat is going to show that they're running on a PPC64 with a 3.19GHz processor. That aint a PPC Mac, not even a G5, and it's highly unlikely to be a pSeries...which leaves ONE Linux capable PPC64 platform....the PS3. Even better if you're running YDL, which was PS3 centric.
Umm Dude... Slims never had the ability to run Linux, only FAT versions could run Linux. In the US that means only the CECHA, CECHB and CECHE versions can run it.
Sony expressly stated that the Slim would not support Linux before the Slim launched, so you obviously weren't paying attention.
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Note that CTCP version shows me using Xchat, via YDL6.1, on a PPC64, that runs at 3.19 GHz....which is most certainly not a Mac, since G5s only went up to 2.7 GHz. And it is highly doubtful that someone is going to have a IBM pSeries in their home, which means that machine is a PS3....which of course it was as I stated in the chat. I eventually did find a sysinfo script that worked to a certain extent
We had a "Nettop" that ran alongside our PS3, it might have cost $299, and it was definitely a better PC than the PS3.......Other than that, it was a mostly frustrating PC experience.
Well it partly depended on what Linux version you used, which desktop, which applications, etc etc. If one had some Linux experience one could tweak it to perform better.
The big limitation was RAM. Sure the PS3's 256MB was better than the 32MB Linux on the PS2 had (yes, I also had the Linux kit), but it only went so far. VRAM swap helped though, I think that came with YDL 6.1? I don't know if say Fedora or Ubuntu on the PS3 supported that.
On the default YDL, the default desktop was an E17 version, which performed like crap for some reason. Even Gnome 2 performed better! Most YDL "power users" switched to something like xfce or fluxbox or something. I was used to that sort of thing on the PS2 so adapted better to YDL than some of the newbies whose first Linux experience was YDL.
So, I'm one of the "OtherOS" users who was directly impacted by this - forced to dump OtherOS because I had an active PSN account that required me to update to continue using it - basically choose OtherOS or games, couldn't have both anymore.
I thought about using a two PS3 solution, getting a new slim PS3 for games and keeping OtherOS on the FAT model, but decided to go another way and go X86 for Linux and update the PS3.
Sadly, for those that don't know, OtherOS partition methods weren't optimal, either you had 10GB for games, and the rest for OtherOS which would basically cripple the PS3 for gaming because of teh HUGE for the time cache files some games install (I had an 80GB CECHE and seriously started thinking about an HD upgrade after a year), or else you have 10GB for OtherOS which SRSLY limits OtherOS (You had to be rather frugal with yum and certain compiles were impossible because you wouldn't have enough swap space with the default Linux partitioning of that 10GB....unless you manually added more to swap which reduced the space / and/home even MORE.
I'd be absolutely shocked if they didn't have some indication in their records of my OtherOS usage.
AFAIK, PS3's booting into OtherOS don't contact the PSN servers.
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If you already have a desktop PC with a competent CPU and 8 GB of RAM or more, adding a $200 GPU will let you play essentially all games on settings equivalent to those on the consoles.
And the total cost will be MORE than a PS4. Remember, you can just run out get one for $299 at the local big box.
And if you want a large enough selection of worthwhile exclusive games to rival PC exclusives, you need both the current generation PlayStation console and the current generation Nintendo console.
Who says anyone "needs" a Nintendo machine. I've got more "worthwhile" games than I have time to play on just a PS4. Remember, "worthwhile" is an individual thing. Not everyone is stuck back in that after-school Goldeneye/Mario kart/Smash Bros mindset.
You have to pay for the fancier benefits like game demos IIRC, but that's not really relevant to this discussion. (Although, being asked to pay for game demos? Horseshit.)
Playstation users don't pay for demos, why do you think they do? Now if you want "Featured content" demos to be automatically downloaded to your machine without you doing anything....now that's a PS+ benefit.
What's actually interesting about that is that Sony themselves have a fairly good history of keeping servers up long past the point at which a game is profitable.
Except for "Home", the thing was profitable, but they dropped that thing like a rock. Funny thing is, now we have these "Home-ish/Unity-ish" things with microtransactions on PS4 like Big City Stories (aka Home Tycoon), and that Casino one (basically Home Casino), but they're separate from each other. That makes no sense to me, because they duplicate functionality! They should have been incorporated into a new version of Home on the PS4.
You don't need Playstation Plus for multiplayer on the PS3, PSP or Vita.
You DO need it for most, but not all multiplayer on the PS4.
If you have to buy the game to play: Yes. (Note that this includes TESO since you have to buy the game client)
F2P: No. You can play all the DCUO, War Thunder, WoT, STO, Neverwinter, Onigiri, etc etc all you want. without PS+
Turn based games where you send-a-turn, asyncronous multiplayer: No.
I don't think you understand. The bees don't live IN the actual field, they live AROUND it so you're seeing a problem where there isn't one.
Someone finally clued in the bees they are violating the Law of Aerodynamics and they're just dropping out of the sky.
Urban myth, it is well known how they fly, they USE aerodynamics.
http://www.snopes.com/science/...
The Natgeo link doesn't refer to fines at all, and the fine links seem to refer to the same few cases so apparently it isn't a widespread problem
Also the anti-weed ordinances seem to be about "appearance" and weren't supported by actual environmentalists.
So, yet another Mashiki right wing echo chamber strawman argument
Ditto on the non-CG cartoon, though the CG one isn't bad either, just not as good as the non-CG one.
Order 66 is the order for the execution of the Jedi, as seen in Episode III
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No, cron has a binary. It is indeed a binary for a daemon, but it is named 'cron', and lives in /usr/sbin
I don't know what kind of Linux you're running, but that is not the case in Fedora:
[CronoCloud@wutai sbin]$ pwd
[CronoCloud@wutai sbin]$ ls | grep cron
anacron
crond
Also:
CRON(8) System Administration CRON(8)
NAME
crond - daemon to execute scheduled commands
SYNOPSIS
crond [-c | -h | -i | -n | -p | -P | -s | -m]
crond -x [ext,sch,proc,pars,load,misc,test,bit]
DESCRIPTION /etc/rc.d/init.d or /etc/init.d when classical /lib/systemd/system/crond.service and daemon is
Cron is started from
sysvinit scripts are used. In case systemd is enabled, then unit file
is installed into
started by systemctl start crond.service command. It returns immediâ
ately, thus, there is no need to need to start it with the '&' parameâ
ter.
Cron searches /var/spool/cron for crontab files which are named after /etc/passwd; The found crontabs are loaded into the memory. /etc/anacrontab and any files in the /etc/cron.d
accounts in
Cron also searches for
directory, which have a different format (see crontab(5)). Cron exam-
ines all stored crontabs and checks each job to see if it needs to be
run in the current minute. When executing commands, any output is
mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user specified in the
MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists). Any job
output can also be sent to syslog by using the -s option.
[CronoCloud@wutai ~]$ cat
[Unit]
Description=Command Scheduler
After=auditd.service nss-user-lookup.target systemd-user-sessions.service time-sync.target ypbind.service
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/crond
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/crond -n $CRONDARGS
ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID
KillMode=process
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
There is no "cron" binary, it is a daemon so it is actually "crond". And if you did create a symbolic link, shouldn't it be in /usr/local/bin?
#define rural.
I live in a small town in Illinois surrounded by corn and soybeans.... you can get a 150/10 internet connection here from the local cable company which they charge a premium price for. I currently have the 50/5 which is more like 55/10...it is fairly priced.
The situation here is such that one of the sat TV providers has a bundle that uses the cable company for Internet. Because while the cable company's internet/phone services are of reasonably good value...their TV services aren't so much.
You'd be surprised. "Hardcore" consoles from the past decade (PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, and Xbox One) can burn 100 W or more if made before the process shrinks incorporated in "slim" redesigns.
Don't "Fat" PS3's hit more than 250W sometimes? That thing is a powersucker...I didn't leave that thing on running Linux like I did the PS2.
[quote]unless you live in a rural area, where the monthly data allowance under the "fixed monthly rate" often isn't enough to download modern games, but wireless (satellite or cellular) home Internet plans in the United States tend to run $5 per GB or more. [/quote]
Even in rural areas, most people live in the towns...and probably have access to at least DSL, if not high speed cable or fiber. Now admittedly the actual farmers who aren't close enough to get a DSL line are screwed unless they go with a Wireless ISP... I don't mean Cellular, I mean wireless ISP....they're fairly equivalent to DSL (3-7mbps)
It is if the majority of new multiplayer games
Not even taking into account multiplayer, a modern console is most useful with a high speed internet connection. Without one you're cut off from system updates, game updates, DLC, digital only games, game streaming, etc etc. I once had to sadly tell a guy interested in a PS3 that his dial-up connection wouldn't really suffice. Heck, even with the PS2 you wouldn't want dial-up.
I've always believed that those "input lag" people are basically the video game equivalent of those "gold unidirectional cables make HDMI sound warmer" people.
IIRC I once ran into a Steampunk in Second Life who did a bit of writing (participating in NaNoWriMo and such), who used Scrivener, but had dabbled a bit in IF using Inform.
I wonder if it would be possible to combine the two, using Inform to maintain a "database of attributes" for characters, locations, etc etc. Something akin to:
Aragorn is a Dunedain, Dunedain are also Numenoreans, Aragorn is the Son of Arathorn, who is also a Dunedain. Aragorn is a Descendant of Elros, Elros is the brother of Elrond. Elros has another name, Tar-Minyatur. Elros was the First King of the Numenoreans. etc etc.
online in pickup groups of strangers is for adults.
That's not what I said. I said you CAN play with random strangers but you can also FRIEND those strangers and play regularly with them if your play well together and your schedules coincide. You don't seem to understand the concept of "online friends". I've known certain people online for over a decade.
Perhaps being stuck in the past, you don't know about things like "friends lists" or "guilds" that exist in online games these days.
This is basically a handheld that you can also attach to your TV. It looks more like a rival to the PS Vita than the PS4.
It is basically a Vita and PS TV Combo. You can ALREADY do practically everything shown in the commercial with a Vita and PSTV.
EXCEPT playing a Bethesda game. Screw you Bethesda! You do a game for this thing and never get around to finishing and releasing that Elder scrolls game you had for PSP or doing a game for the Vita...not even a port?
The hypervisor IS monitoring things, but I'm not sure it's sending anything to Sony, because I'm not sure Sony knew about GeoHot's tricks before he bragged about them online.
While I DO have proof I ran Linux on my PS3 (and PS2 for that matter), there is no need to doctor a pic, when you could make your own
[ninthbit@ninthbitsps3 ~]$ cat
Yellow Dog Linux release 6.0 (Pyxis)
[ninthbit@ninthbitsps3 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported
clock : 3192.000000MHz
revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)
processor : 1
cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported
clock : 3192.000000MHz
revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)
timebase : 79800000
platform : PS3
#!/bin/sh
clear
echo "[ninthbit@ninthbitsps3 ~]$ cat
echo -e "Yellow Dog Linux release 6.0 (Pyxis)\n"
echo "[ninthbit@ninthbitsps3 ~]$ cat
echo "processor : 0"
echo "cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported"
echo "clock : 3192.000000MHz"
echo -e "revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)\n"
echo "processor : 1"
echo "cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported"
echo "clock : 3192.000000MHz"
echo -e "revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)\n"
echo "timebase : 79800000"
echo "platform : PS3"
Open an non-unity-ish or gnome3-ish terminal say xterm, rxvt or xfce-terminal or something else that won't immediately look like something running on a modern linux, run the script, take a screenshot of the terminal using imagemagick's import -window -frame feature and bingo, looks like a screenshot of someone showing they installed linux on a PS3 to a friend or message board or something.
That said, this should be a last resort if you can't find any other proof of your PS3 Linux usage.
For example if you keep IRC logs, any CTCP version of a PS3 Linux user running Xchat is going to show that they're running on a PPC64 with a 3.19GHz processor. That aint a PPC Mac, not even a G5, and it's highly unlikely to be a pSeries...which leaves ONE Linux capable PPC64 platform....the PS3. Even better if you're running YDL, which was PS3 centric.
Umm Dude... Slims never had the ability to run Linux, only FAT versions could run Linux. In the US that means only the CECHA, CECHB and CECHE versions can run it.
Sony expressly stated that the Slim would not support Linux before the Slim launched, so you obviously weren't paying attention.
I have to have my PS3 serial number.
Unless it is still registered to PSN. IIRC you can find out the serial number there.
For the higher payment, I have to have incredibly unreasonable proof that I used OtherOS functionality.
I could have that proof within minutes.
[CronoCloud@wutai ~]$ cat ps3_info.txt
[CronoCloud@mideel ~]$ cat
Yellow Dog Linux release 6.0 (Pyxis)
[CronoCloud@mideel ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported
clock : 3192.000000MHz
revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)
processor : 1
cpu : Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported
clock : 3192.000000MHz
revision : 5.1 (pvr 0070 0501)
timebase : 79800000
platform : PS3
or:
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Jul 11 21:12:21 >CronoCloudCronoCloudCronoCloud Hi, does anyone know of an xchat sysinfo script that works well with YDL on the PS3? I've been googling but haven't had much sucess.
Note that CTCP version shows me using Xchat, via YDL6.1, on a PPC64, that runs at 3.19 GHz....which is most certainly not a Mac, since G5s only went up to 2.7 GHz. And it is highly doubtful that someone is going to have a IBM pSeries in their home, which means that machine is a PS3....which of course it was as I stated in the chat. I eventually did find a sysinfo script that worked to a certain extent
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 11 21:25:19 2008
Jul 11 21:25:19 --> You are now talking on #cronocloud_test /net or /up)
Jul 11 21:25:19 --- simmons.freenode.net sets mode +n #cronocloud_test
Jul 11 21:25:19 --- simmons.freenode.net sets mode +s #cronocloud_test
Jul 11 21:25:23 System Information for mideel: CPU: MHz, Cache RAM: 215 MB HDD: 58 GB OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.23-9.ydl6.1 Uptime: 21:25:23 up 5:30, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.07, 0.08
Jul 11 21:25:54 CPU: MHz, Cache
Jul 11 21:28:34 Loading lord slapmonkey's sysinfo script (/sys,
Jul 11 21:28:46 SysInfo: Linux 2.6.23-9.ydl6.1 | Cell Broadband Engine, altivec supported (4 CPUs) | Mem: 98MB/216MB [||||------] | Diskspace: 20GB/62GB [|||-------] | Screen Res: 1280x768 | Procs: 111 | ppp0: In: 0.0MB Out: 0.0MB | Uptime: 5 hours 33 minutes | Users: 1 | Load: 0.19, 0.08, 0.08
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 11 21:30:13 2008
or
http://www.ydl.net/board/viewt...
Oh look, there's a CronoCloud who is apparently a moderator at the YDL.net forum who posted a link to this story on Slashdot.
For my sake, proving that I used OtherOS is VERY easy. I think I have screenshots too.
Of course, there are a few config files on my current Fedora machine that date back to my PS2 Linux days.
It was clearly marked as the OtherOS-killer, and you needed to tick a box clearly stating that you understood this before it would apply.
That's right, and made you confirm the decision to update and remove OtherOS TWICE, just to be sure that was really what you wanted to do.
We had a "Nettop" that ran alongside our PS3, it might have cost $299, and it was definitely a better PC than the PS3. ......Other than that, it was a mostly frustrating PC experience.
Well it partly depended on what Linux version you used, which desktop, which applications, etc etc. If one had some Linux experience one could tweak it to perform better.
The big limitation was RAM. Sure the PS3's 256MB was better than the 32MB Linux on the PS2 had (yes, I also had the Linux kit), but it only went so far. VRAM swap helped though, I think that came with YDL 6.1? I don't know if say Fedora or Ubuntu on the PS3 supported that.
On the default YDL, the default desktop was an E17 version, which performed like crap for some reason. Even Gnome 2 performed better! Most YDL "power users" switched to something like xfce or fluxbox or something. I was used to that sort of thing on the PS2 so adapted better to YDL than some of the newbies whose first Linux experience was YDL.
So, I'm one of the "OtherOS" users who was directly impacted by this - forced to dump OtherOS because I had an active PSN account that required me to update to continue using it - basically choose OtherOS or games, couldn't have both anymore.
I thought about using a two PS3 solution, getting a new slim PS3 for games and keeping OtherOS on the FAT model, but decided to go another way and go X86 for Linux and update the PS3.
Sadly, for those that don't know, OtherOS partition methods weren't optimal, either you had 10GB for games, and the rest for OtherOS which would basically cripple the PS3 for gaming because of teh HUGE for the time cache files some games install (I had an 80GB CECHE and seriously started thinking about an HD upgrade after a year), or else you have 10GB for OtherOS which SRSLY limits OtherOS (You had to be rather frugal with yum and certain compiles were impossible because you wouldn't have enough swap space with the default Linux partitioning of that 10GB....unless you manually added more to swap which reduced the space / and /home even MORE.
I'd be absolutely shocked if they didn't have some indication in their records of my OtherOS usage.
AFAIK, PS3's booting into OtherOS don't contact the PSN servers.
Don't you know about the "Enterprise" versions of Linux with corporate support like RHEL?
IIRC you could pay Terrasoft for YDL and get RHEL style support from them dependong on how much you paid.