So this is not really a *true* \. post... after all it should be a post quoting a forum quoting magazine quoting a guy quoting the original post quoting a forum quoting the magazine...
I have a friend that graduated from a 2 yr college with an IT Technical AA degree and a Novell Master CNE certification. She has been working for the last two years as a bench tech. She does not have the depth of experience needed to run a network.
I have worked with and dealt with Consultant CNEs, MCNEs and MCSEs that were nothing more than sales men--- they were not interested in resolving the customer problems as much as they were generating more revenue.
I've also been on the other end of the phone with Novell Customer Support CNEs that had less than *real world* answers... I have placed many a 2AM call to Novell and found the answers were less than adequate. I can use the Novell knowledgebase as well as they can. Some time the only difference between the CNE on the phone and myself was the CNE had access to a proprietary Novell tool which I did not.
Time and time again I've had high cost paid consultants that built their billings rather than my network. I've run into other situations where the "certified consultant" gave us a poorly built solution.
For example, a "certified" security consultant built a RH based web proxy that died because it was improperly partitioned. I have a CNA 4.1 and MCPs for NT 3.51 / W95 and have no Linux certs... I don't do linux on a daily basis as I'm in a Novell shop with lots of MS app servers [oh god here come the patches again!]
I managed to resurrect the drive & repartition the install on to a new hard drive. The solution was ugly but it worked [and is still working after six months]. I could probably do a better job of it today [spending a weekend building gentoo on an ultra5 is educational]
Certification has for some companies been a method to generate new revenue streams without providing lasting *practical* value to the student or to their clients / employers.
The Novell cert I took had more practical value than the MS cert. {i still remember the question on applying permission filters] With that said, the reality is that a "certified specialist" is a marketing label for "certified salesmen" -- sorry to sound so cynical but I haven't met that many "certified alphabet soup" consultants that were worth their weight to solve real problems without wanting to either a) sell me something I did not really need or b) Give me "bill of goods", a large consulting bill, and no optimal solution.
If Novell wants to certify Linux specialists they need to make it a useful certification and not just another piece of marketing "wizz-bang"... After doing this for seven years I don't need to "prove" what I know... I do that every day-- I have little motivation to go an get new things to put on the wall... except maybe to prove to a "suit" that I am familiar with the subject.
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So this is not really a *true* \. post... after all it should be a post quoting a forum quoting magazine quoting a guy quoting the original post quoting a forum quoting the magazine...
Can you imagine Yoda or Obi-Wan saying "Feel the Gut? It's in you and Around you...? Nah...
I have worked with and dealt with Consultant CNEs, MCNEs and MCSEs that were nothing more than sales men--- they were not interested in resolving the customer problems as much as they were generating more revenue.
I've also been on the other end of the phone with Novell Customer Support CNEs that had less than *real world* answers... I have placed many a 2AM call to Novell and found the answers were less than adequate. I can use the Novell knowledgebase as well as they can. Some time the only difference between the CNE on the phone and myself was the CNE had access to a proprietary Novell tool which I did not.
Time and time again I've had high cost paid consultants that built their billings rather than my network. I've run into other situations where the "certified consultant" gave us a poorly built solution.
For example, a "certified" security consultant built a RH based web proxy that died because it was improperly partitioned. I have a CNA 4.1 and MCPs for NT 3.51 / W95 and have no Linux certs... I don't do linux on a daily basis as I'm in a Novell shop with lots of MS app servers [oh god here come the patches again!]
I managed to resurrect the drive & repartition the install on to a new hard drive. The solution was ugly but it worked [and is still working after six months]. I could probably do a better job of it today [spending a weekend building gentoo on an ultra5 is educational]
Certification has for some companies been a method to generate new revenue streams without providing lasting *practical* value to the student or to their clients / employers.
The Novell cert I took had more practical value than the MS cert. {i still remember the question on applying permission filters] With that said, the reality is that a "certified specialist" is a marketing label for "certified salesmen" -- sorry to sound so cynical but I haven't met that many "certified alphabet soup" consultants that were worth their weight to solve real problems without wanting to either a) sell me something I did not really need or b) Give me "bill of goods", a large consulting bill, and no optimal solution.
If Novell wants to certify Linux specialists they need to make it a useful certification and not just another piece of marketing "wizz-bang"... After doing this for seven years I don't need to "prove" what I know... I do that every day-- I have little motivation to go an get new things to put on the wall... except maybe to prove to a "suit" that I am familiar with the subject.