I found some actual research showing that there might be some heart damage in people who regularly run marathon and ultra marathon distances, over long periods of time. And some editorials and pop science pieces implying that exercise is bad for you. What was your point?
Yes, lots of average people take running clinics. That's what they're for.
Anyway, you seem to have completely missed my point in your eagerness to bash distance running. I said that only long distance running or similar cardio is going to actually help you lose weight on exercise alone. With anything else your main effect is going to come from diet.
The goal of most HIIT is something in the neighborhood of 90% max heart rate. Your 160 might be on the low end of that, and that's a long way from what you say you get walking.
I didn't say walking isn't good for you. But if you actually are short on time, HIIT are going to be much more efficient than walking.
Personally I plan to have a hang gliding accident somewhere I'm unlikely to be found when I start getting too old, or bored. Maybe on my 3000th birthday.
We don't have increasing numbers of births per person. Very much the opposite. When most of the world ends up with educated women the population is going to start falling, no matter how long we live.
Not getting vaccinated is playing Russian roulette. Getting vaccinated is not putting the gun to your head, although it's possible (but highly unlikely) you might get hit by a stray bullet from the police standoff thirty blocks away.
Most of the service industry is luxury. Most of the useless jobs seem to be in finance, although a few of the four people it took to fill out a web form for my last expense claim are probably also superfluous.
Bull. You're either making excuses or you've been scared by someone else who is. People are meant to run. If you've spent your life not running you need to work up to it, but everyone can do it. There are several running specialist stores around that have clinics that take people from nothing through 5 km runs three times a week (15 km/wk) up to marathon clinics where you're running a 36 on the weekend and a few 15s during the week (80+ km/wk). There are surprisingly few cases of heart scarring (none actually). One of the clinic leaders I met was 74 and I know of several clients who are over sixty and routinely doing half or full marathons.
Weight loss is about health. Being fat IS a medical problem. Reasonable exercise is not going to hurt you (quite the opposite) and the top end of "reasonable" is a LOT higher than most people think.
If you walked like that for an hour a day then you might get something like the effect the article is talking about. But the article is directed at people who claim they don't even have twenty minutes every day. Yes, they'd probably be better off just walking more, but good luck convincing them to actually do it.
150 is impressive, but unless you're quite old or unfit (unlikely if you're walking that fast) it doesn't really count as a high intensity interval. It's good for your heart, but you won't get the same efficiency you do with HIIT.
Uh huh. Have you ever wondered why the majority of people in North America (and not a small majority) work in the service industry, and only work 40 or so hours a week, when their ancestors had to work more or less constantly at food production just to eat?
Increased mechanization means only that we'll work less and/or more of us will do luxury or useless jobs.
I sprinted in high school (distance runner now). As a sprinter I was pretty sure that when the coach told us to do 100m at 90% capacity then jog the other 300 m around the track he was talking about one of those 400 m runners' 90%.
I love interval... The first one. The subsequent intervals suck. Most people would probably be better off taking a half hour every couple of days and doing a regular run. The time excuse is usually just an excuse.
Studies show the muscle burning calories at rest thing is mostly a myth. The only exercise that really directly affects weight loss is cardio - real cardio. My metabolism switches over to fat burning after about 28 km of running.
What exercise DOES do is suppress appetite (yeah, it doesn't seem like it does, but the constant boredom snacking adds up). People who get some exercise seem to almost automatically start eating healthier too.
I do both cardio (of the marathon variety) and gym-type strength building. A two to three hour a day gym workout doesn't have anything like the weight control effects of even forty or fifty km a week of running.
I think the point was to see how little is needed to see some benefit, not to recommend that someone who does more than this cut back.
The message is look, you can do this, that doesn't take much time, and it's better than nothing. Although for most people the first few sessions of the recommended exercise might be a bit hellish anyway.
Hard interval training is going to do a hell of a lot more for your heart rate than walking, unless, perhaps, you're talking about Olympic class speed walking.
Walking is better than nothing, but it doesn't raise your heart rate nearly as much as running or intensive intervals.
Ah, I've never seen coloured zones. There's just the short, fast line for EU citizens and the long, slow line for everybody else. Or no customs at all if it's Spain. Canada really needs such a system - here we all get the long slow line, citizen, visitor, things to declare or no.
I guess we're getting our money's worth then. Our's usually run around $4 but I've loaded them up to the point where they really SHOULD have burst, but no damage. I think mine are just over three years old now, and I inherited them from someone else.
Well, he was sort of right about memories causing things like PTSD, but he didn't invent that idea (or the word engram). The things he did add, like engrams being stored impressed on the protoplasm of cells or the implication that engrams are experiences you had while unconscious, are wrong.
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Well there's your problem. Around here the reusable bags cost several dollars and they definitely get reused. Disposable bags almost universally cost $0.05 (and hold a lot less), so at $0.15 even the non-free ones Walmart wants to introduce are practically the same price, and equally disposable.
When I was in Florida last month I had the amazing experience of watching a Walmart put my seven small grocery items into five bags.
If it costs a lot of money to recycle, it's not necessarily a bad thing to put the material somewhere safe until new processes, scarcity, or a plant opening closer make it more economical.
Forestry in large old growth forests is sometimes the most responsible thing. The boreal forest is massive, and it used to burn at (long) intervals. We've done our best to stop the burning for economic, safety and potentially misguided environmental reasons. Logging those forests responsibly and at long intervals can be good for the forest and better than intensely "farming" smaller areas.
Cutting old growth forests isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not as if forestry is cutting down all the trees. Forested area is increasing in Canada.
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I found some actual research showing that there might be some heart damage in people who regularly run marathon and ultra marathon distances, over long periods of time. And some editorials and pop science pieces implying that exercise is bad for you. What was your point?
Yes, lots of average people take running clinics. That's what they're for.
Anyway, you seem to have completely missed my point in your eagerness to bash distance running. I said that only long distance running or similar cardio is going to actually help you lose weight on exercise alone. With anything else your main effect is going to come from diet.
The goal of most HIIT is something in the neighborhood of 90% max heart rate. Your 160 might be on the low end of that, and that's a long way from what you say you get walking.
I didn't say walking isn't good for you. But if you actually are short on time, HIIT are going to be much more efficient than walking.
Exercise, both physical and mental.
Personally I plan to have a hang gliding accident somewhere I'm unlikely to be found when I start getting too old, or bored. Maybe on my 3000th birthday.
We don't have increasing numbers of births per person. Very much the opposite. When most of the world ends up with educated women the population is going to start falling, no matter how long we live.
Kinda kicks the whole infallible, omniscient thing out when god makes mistakes and changes his mind though.
Plants are alive. And die when you eat them.
Whereupon Genesis goes on to rattle off a bunch more dudes who lived to ridiculous ages.
He's also not a doctor anymore.
Not getting vaccinated is playing Russian roulette. Getting vaccinated is not putting the gun to your head, although it's possible (but highly unlikely) you might get hit by a stray bullet from the police standoff thirty blocks away.
Most of the service industry is luxury. Most of the useless jobs seem to be in finance, although a few of the four people it took to fill out a web form for my last expense claim are probably also superfluous.
Bull. You're either making excuses or you've been scared by someone else who is. People are meant to run. If you've spent your life not running you need to work up to it, but everyone can do it. There are several running specialist stores around that have clinics that take people from nothing through 5 km runs three times a week (15 km/wk) up to marathon clinics where you're running a 36 on the weekend and a few 15s during the week (80+ km/wk). There are surprisingly few cases of heart scarring (none actually). One of the clinic leaders I met was 74 and I know of several clients who are over sixty and routinely doing half or full marathons.
Weight loss is about health. Being fat IS a medical problem. Reasonable exercise is not going to hurt you (quite the opposite) and the top end of "reasonable" is a LOT higher than most people think.
If you walked like that for an hour a day then you might get something like the effect the article is talking about. But the article is directed at people who claim they don't even have twenty minutes every day. Yes, they'd probably be better off just walking more, but good luck convincing them to actually do it.
150 is impressive, but unless you're quite old or unfit (unlikely if you're walking that fast) it doesn't really count as a high intensity interval. It's good for your heart, but you won't get the same efficiency you do with HIIT.
Uh huh. Have you ever wondered why the majority of people in North America (and not a small majority) work in the service industry, and only work 40 or so hours a week, when their ancestors had to work more or less constantly at food production just to eat?
Increased mechanization means only that we'll work less and/or more of us will do luxury or useless jobs.
I sprinted in high school (distance runner now). As a sprinter I was pretty sure that when the coach told us to do 100m at 90% capacity then jog the other 300 m around the track he was talking about one of those 400 m runners' 90%.
I love interval... The first one. The subsequent intervals suck. Most people would probably be better off taking a half hour every couple of days and doing a regular run. The time excuse is usually just an excuse.
Studies show the muscle burning calories at rest thing is mostly a myth. The only exercise that really directly affects weight loss is cardio - real cardio. My metabolism switches over to fat burning after about 28 km of running.
What exercise DOES do is suppress appetite (yeah, it doesn't seem like it does, but the constant boredom snacking adds up). People who get some exercise seem to almost automatically start eating healthier too.
I do both cardio (of the marathon variety) and gym-type strength building. A two to three hour a day gym workout doesn't have anything like the weight control effects of even forty or fifty km a week of running.
Just don't forget to switch arms periodically.
I think the point was to see how little is needed to see some benefit, not to recommend that someone who does more than this cut back.
The message is look, you can do this, that doesn't take much time, and it's better than nothing. Although for most people the first few sessions of the recommended exercise might be a bit hellish anyway.
Hard interval training is going to do a hell of a lot more for your heart rate than walking, unless, perhaps, you're talking about Olympic class speed walking.
Walking is better than nothing, but it doesn't raise your heart rate nearly as much as running or intensive intervals.
Ah, I've never seen coloured zones. There's just the short, fast line for EU citizens and the long, slow line for everybody else. Or no customs at all if it's Spain. Canada really needs such a system - here we all get the long slow line, citizen, visitor, things to declare or no.
I guess we're getting our money's worth then. Our's usually run around $4 but I've loaded them up to the point where they really SHOULD have burst, but no damage. I think mine are just over three years old now, and I inherited them from someone else.
Well, he was sort of right about memories causing things like PTSD, but he didn't invent that idea (or the word engram). The things he did add, like engrams being stored impressed on the protoplasm of cells or the implication that engrams are experiences you had while unconscious, are wrong.
Well there's your problem. Around here the reusable bags cost several dollars and they definitely get reused. Disposable bags almost universally cost $0.05 (and hold a lot less), so at $0.15 even the non-free ones Walmart wants to introduce are practically the same price, and equally disposable.
When I was in Florida last month I had the amazing experience of watching a Walmart put my seven small grocery items into five bags.
If it costs a lot of money to recycle, it's not necessarily a bad thing to put the material somewhere safe until new processes, scarcity, or a plant opening closer make it more economical.
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Forestry in large old growth forests is sometimes the most responsible thing. The boreal forest is massive, and it used to burn at (long) intervals. We've done our best to stop the burning for economic, safety and potentially misguided environmental reasons. Logging those forests responsibly and at long intervals can be good for the forest and better than intensely "farming" smaller areas.
Cutting old growth forests isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not as if forestry is cutting down all the trees. Forested area is increasing in Canada.