For a start, the people who run Google weren't "put there" at all. They invented Google.
Secondly, you can't just make a profit at the expense of everything else. Mafia families are usually very profitable, but corporations can't just point to them and say, well, we needed to kill that guy because we're beholden to our shareholders.
Thirdly, you don't have to own a market to be successful. Should Apple be sued because they don't make computers onto which you can install Windows? (Though that may be changing, but not because of shareholders!)
Yahoo and MSN are censored by the Chinese government themselves, are they not? Whereas Google are performing "voluntary" self-censorship. So it may not be that Google are going above and beyond what the Chinese government asks, but that they're better at fulfilling what the government asks than the government themselves are (which is probably why they're allowed to do it themselves).
And Google does at least for the most part display "these results have been censored" messages, unlike MSN and Yahoo -- having bought that option for themselves by going in for self-censorship. So I think it's less cut-and-dried than you make out.
The article says del.icio.us introduced "user tagging", by which I think it means folksonomy. I'm not aware of anything that did that before del.icio.us, although I'd be interested to know if you are.
But claiming that the HTML keywords meta-tag is like (folksonomy) tagging is like claiming that cave paintings are like an alphabet.
Anybody have any insight, or even a good suggested name for these people?
"Faddists"?
However, you seem to imply that "people who understand the power of 'folksonomies'" should be tarred with the same brush. However, if you look a little closer you might realise that many of the latter group are not in the former.
Suppose your country forced Google/Yahoo/Wikipedia/your local ISP to censor what you see. Would you shrug and say "oh, at least we are getting some information" and then let things be?
No. Like you, if I were Chinese, I'd much rather they didn't give me any information at all:P
In any of these cases, though, if the Chinese government starts killing people over this, I think the US would intervene rather than suffer a WWII Germany times 100,000.
What exactly did the US "suffer" in WWII Germany?
America made money from the war for as long as possible and only joined when it became obvious who the winners were going to be.
That was back in the days when other people didn't have nuclear weapons, and the dollar wasn't qwded.
China is a communist country to approximately the same extent as the US was a democratic one under the Clinton administration. At least the GOP has a name which reflects what they really are.
Mod parent up. As hard as it is to hear, that's the way it is.
It would be nice to see Google take a stand on this one though. A corporation's duty may be to maximise its profits, but who's going to take Google to court for failing to do so by failing to uphold the Great Firewall? I'd love to see the PR fallout from that one:)
Eric Schmidt sold shares in Google worth more than half a billion dollars. This was considerably less than the shares Brin and Page sold were worth -- does that mean half a billion dollars is "next to nothing"?
Trolling "is defined" in various different ways. You also fall under your definition A, so either way you're trolling. Your definition B is "actually" flamebaiting.
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Audiogalaxy was particularly good for this.
Ah, Audiogalaxy, how I miss you.
Trinity is dead, you insensitve clod!
Absolute nonsense.
For a start, the people who run Google weren't "put there" at all. They invented Google.
Secondly, you can't just make a profit at the expense of everything else. Mafia families are usually very profitable, but corporations can't just point to them and say, well, we needed to kill that guy because we're beholden to our shareholders.
Thirdly, you don't have to own a market to be successful. Should Apple be sued because they don't make computers onto which you can install Windows? (Though that may be changing, but not because of shareholders!)
Yahoo and MSN are censored by the Chinese government themselves, are they not? Whereas Google are performing "voluntary" self-censorship. So it may not be that Google are going above and beyond what the Chinese government asks, but that they're better at fulfilling what the government asks than the government themselves are (which is probably why they're allowed to do it themselves).
And Google does at least for the most part display "these results have been censored" messages, unlike MSN and Yahoo -- having bought that option for themselves by going in for self-censorship. So I think it's less cut-and-dried than you make out.
I don't think Joshua or I ever claimed it was.
The article says del.icio.us introduced "user tagging", by which I think it means folksonomy. I'm not aware of anything that did that before del.icio.us, although I'd be interested to know if you are.
But claiming that the HTML keywords meta-tag is like (folksonomy) tagging is like claiming that cave paintings are like an alphabet.
Name one?
"Faddists"?
However, you seem to imply that "people who understand the power of 'folksonomies'" should be tarred with the same brush. However, if you look a little closer you might realise that many of the latter group are not in the former.
Apparently not, according to the observational evidence.
And I think you missed the folksonomy angle with your library analogy (not to mention that books can only sit on one shelf at a time).
I second this question. Why?
Sources please.
No. Like you, if I were Chinese, I'd much rather they didn't give me any information at all
Ah, but you forgot to count Scotland, Wales and Ireland
Well, even if that part of my comment is open to debate, I think the rest still stands!
What exactly did the US "suffer" in WWII Germany?
America made money from the war for as long as possible and only joined when it became obvious who the winners were going to be.
That was back in the days when other people didn't have nuclear weapons, and the dollar wasn't qwded.
Things are different now.
6) Monsters
7) Aliens
8) Baddies
Or possibly even an Embran. Doesn't stop her from being British!
China is a communist country to approximately the same extent as the US was a democratic one under the Clinton administration. At least the GOP has a name which reflects what they really are.
Mod parent up. As hard as it is to hear, that's the way it is.
It would be nice to see Google take a stand on this one though. A corporation's duty may be to maximise its profits, but who's going to take Google to court for failing to do so by failing to uphold the Great Firewall? I'd love to see the PR fallout from that one
No, for what you do, it is less than average.
Eric Schmidt sold shares in Google worth more than half a billion dollars. This was considerably less than the shares Brin and Page sold were worth -- does that mean half a billion dollars is "next to nothing"?
Tsh. Like all real geeks, I read Slashdot in Lynx under HURD on a custom ASIC I designed myself.
It's a bit like the old poker adage: if you look round the table and you can't spot the patsy... it's time to leave the game.
Those who are in business of buying to sell should beware lest they discover that the only schmuck they can find is themselves.
Save and exit / Discard and exit / Don't exit.
Asking the same question twice in a row just trains the user to click "Yes, I really mean it" without reading dialogs.
I'd get it just for my parents, who freely interchange words in the following sets when trying to describe problems over the phone:
{Computer, Monitor, Screen}
{Disk, Memory}
{Internet, Email, Network, [World Wide] Web, Browser}
{Word, Excel, Outlook, Windows, Microsoft, Explorer, Window, Box, Alert, Writing, Text, Message, Screen, Computer}
etc.
I used to be a white male.
My name is Jamelia Uwimana, and I'm a "switcher".
Trolling "is defined" in various different ways. You also fall under your definition A, so either way you're trolling. Your definition B is "actually" flamebaiting.
Well, yes, but they're even shorter than periods of 50ms
Getting there...
Okay, that's more like it... but still, I hope you never become a judge or a restaurant critic