I'd settle for standards compliant sites. If you start there, it's harder to screw up your precious "design", unless tempted by using flash and javascript, and the like.
Just have 3 base stations sent pings to your phone, triangulate position, and big brother will be there shortly.
This approach is actually being used by some telephone companies here in Denmark. They can track you, and when you're at home they'll give you a low minute rate.
But in this case the corporation in question has a monopoly - traditionally, they should be required to play by different rules than corporations which do not.
... and this is even a better way to reach their goal. To quote Mitchell Baker:
Our plan to rename Mozilla Firebird Browser to Mozilla Browser requires us to eradicate use of "browser" in connection with the browsing functionality in the Mozilla Application Suite.
Mozilla 2.0, completely new and improved - not what you once knew as Mozilla 1.4 or whatever.
looks like he's much more interested in the technology behind the film than in the film itself these days
I agree! And it's not too late to let him know either - everybody, take a look at this petition.
He has stated that in his eyes the special editions of episodes IV to VI are the official versions. This is totally insane! Let's have the Original Trilogy as well, after all it's more $$$ for you, Mr. Lucas!
You might actually try to locate a certain problem in your company, a need for a service or whatever, for which FOSS can be help.
Different FOSS applications and tools can be combined in both crazy and wonderful ways to solve various complex or simple tasks, that no single proprietary app can. Or maybe some app can, but it's just so expensive that there are other problems/needs that have higher priorities at the moment. Anyway, introduce say a GNU/Linux system to deal with a particular problem/need - it's one way to demonstrate the power of FOSS, when management can actually see a problem fixed or a need satisfied, out of the blue.
They'll ask you "Will it work with our existing Windows infrastructure?" Answer that as well.
Regarding this one, when answering yes (?), remember to explain the reason why in some cases (for some services) this is difficult and/or impossible, with limitations, etc. Don't get into the whole 'embrace, extend and annihilate' stuff, just explain the specs aren't available for the proprietary formats and protocols in use, for people to create applications that interoperate.
If the comsumer lock-in and vendor lock-out bells sound for them at this point, then there may yet be a chance for FOSS in your company. If not, then you're screwed anyway and perhaps the "it's free, as in beer" argument would have served you better.
Risk Management: Buying proprietary software gives you support, but the support is with a monopoly supplier who can then choose to charge whatever it wishes down the road for both software upgrades and support.
And if management needs proof of this, just refer to the date July 31st. 2002 (Y2Pay) - a wonderful example of this.
I would argue that the Mozilla project has actually innovated the browser platform somewhat, e.g. the 'TypeAhead Find' and 'Image blocking' features - I for one felt the excitement there.
... calling somebody a moron simply because you do not believe something to be art is a pretty cheap ad hominem...
It wasn't meant like that. I consider my capacity for empathy at least above average, and as such I'm not quick to judge. It was meant in an ironic sence.
You as well as the artists in question are entirely entitled to your oppinions and I truly respect that. See I can't be nice.:-)
Have you seen Joseph Beuys piles of fat, in the Stuttgart modern art museum ?
No I haven't, but we had a moron here in Denmark who put a bunch of dead pigs on display at a museum - proclaiming it to be art. Of course, within a week or so they began to rot and stink, and people were guite pissed off. It caused quite a stir!
Also, another moron - artist? - had a wrecked bus (on it's side) and a couple of cars (with smashed windows, etc) put on display right in the middle of our most beloved old square, Kongens Nytorv in Copenhagen, right in front of the exclusive hotel, The Dangleterre, and The Royal Theatre. It took months before it was decided it was a bad idea.
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That comment made me wonder if RMS actually holds a grudge against Linus for not conforming to his standards of "purity".
Oh, he does! Partly because of the 'using the right tool for the job' issue, but also because of the lack of credit the GNU Project receives in the 'GNU/Linux' issue (which is why RMS won't give speeches at LUG's that don't have GNU in their names, as an example).
Remembering RMS responding on the Stallman Factor:
Linux, the kernel, is often thought of as the flagship of free software, yet its current version is partially non-free. How did this happen? This problem, like the decision to use Bitkeeper, reflects the attitude of the original developer of Linux, a person who thinks that "technically better" is more important than freedom.
Actually, I don't believe RMS is big on the whole Open Source "packaging" of the term Free Software - it says nothing about freedom - even though this was the breakthrough back in 1998 that got Free Software into most people's homes.
Personally, I believe RMS and the GNU Project deserve huge credit - without GNU, Linux wouldn't exist! Linux is "just" the kernel.
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... I'll continue to believe in Linus.
Dude! Linus is real, unless declared integer! Uhm, or something.
I've read several places that it's due sometime i the second quarter 2003. Check dh003i's journal for example, there's a reply pasted from a frontier correspondance.
IMHO, seing OGG Vorbis mentioned on their new site at this time is significant. It'll come!:-)
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Geez, forget clean "design"!
I'd settle for standards compliant sites. If you start there, it's harder to screw up your precious "design", unless tempted by using flash and javascript, and the like.
People, your next stop is the W3C.
zI know I ain't getting any, but am I the only one who misread this part? :-)
zThis approach is actually being used by some telephone companies here in Denmark. They can track you, and when you're at home they'll give you a low minute rate.
zBut in this case the corporation in question has a monopoly - traditionally, they should be required to play by different rules than corporations which do not.
zDon't forget the forced upgrades hand in hand with the nullification of the economic value of your old software.
z... and this is even a better way to reach their goal. To quote Mitchell Baker:
Mozilla 2.0, completely new and improved - not what you once knew as Mozilla 1.4 or whatever.
zI agree! And it's not too late to let him know either - everybody, take a look at this petition.
He has stated that in his eyes the special editions of episodes IV to VI are the official versions. This is totally insane! Let's have the Original Trilogy as well, after all it's more $$$ for you, Mr. Lucas!
zWhat?! And have yourself replaced by a monkey! Are you insane? :-)
zYou might actually try to locate a certain problem in your company, a need for a service or whatever, for which FOSS can be help.
Different FOSS applications and tools can be combined in both crazy and wonderful ways to solve various complex or simple tasks, that no single proprietary app can. Or maybe some app can, but it's just so expensive that there are other problems/needs that have higher priorities at the moment. Anyway, introduce say a GNU/Linux system to deal with a particular problem/need - it's one way to demonstrate the power of FOSS, when management can actually see a problem fixed or a need satisfied, out of the blue.
zRegarding this one, when answering yes (?), remember to explain the reason why in some cases (for some services) this is difficult and/or impossible, with limitations, etc. Don't get into the whole 'embrace, extend and annihilate' stuff, just explain the specs aren't available for the proprietary formats and protocols in use, for people to create applications that interoperate.
If the comsumer lock-in and vendor lock-out bells sound for them at this point, then there may yet be a chance for FOSS in your company. If not, then you're screwed anyway and perhaps the "it's free, as in beer" argument would have served you better.
It can be - almost, but not quite - futile.
zAnd if management needs proof of this, just refer to the date July 31st. 2002 (Y2Pay) - a wonderful example of this.
zBTW, doesn't HP and IBM provide support for FOSS solutions, to some degree at least? I forget!
Oh, it's swell! ;-)
Though, the world does not evolve around MIT or CMU, I was actually thinking more of CS technology.
zI wasn't aware of this - thanks for setting me straight! :-)
zCorrection: the commercial developers use the universities to do their R&D!
zI would argue that the Mozilla project has actually innovated the browser platform somewhat, e.g. the 'TypeAhead Find' and 'Image blocking' features - I for one felt the excitement there.
zBTW, isn't the kernel written in C?
Ah yes, forgot that one!
As I recall, the blenders were plugged in and people couldn't keep their hands to themselves.
zIt wasn't meant like that. I consider my capacity for empathy at least above average, and as such I'm not quick to judge. It was meant in an ironic sence.
You as well as the artists in question are entirely entitled to your oppinions and I truly respect that. See I can't be nice. :-)
zIntriguing!
Have you seen Joseph Beuys piles of fat, in the Stuttgart modern art museum ?No I haven't, but we had a moron here in Denmark who put a bunch of dead pigs on display at a museum - proclaiming it to be art. Of course, within a week or so they began to rot and stink, and people were guite pissed off. It caused quite a stir!
Also, another moron - artist? - had a wrecked bus (on it's side) and a couple of cars (with smashed windows, etc) put on display right in the middle of our most beloved old square, Kongens Nytorv in Copenhagen, right in front of the exclusive hotel, The Dangleterre, and The Royal Theatre. It took months before it was decided it was a bad idea.
Does that qualify as abstract? :-)
zNo. Is a pen or a pencil art? No.
HTML is a Hypertext Markup Language. :-)
zOh, he does! Partly because of the 'using the right tool for the job' issue, but also because of the lack of credit the GNU Project receives in the 'GNU/Linux' issue (which is why RMS won't give speeches at LUG's that don't have GNU in their names, as an example).
Remembering RMS responding on the Stallman Factor:
Linux, the kernel, is often thought of as the flagship of free software, yet its current version is partially non-free. How did this happen? This problem, like the decision to use Bitkeeper, reflects the attitude of the original developer of Linux, a person who thinks that "technically better" is more important than freedom.Actually, I don't believe RMS is big on the whole Open Source "packaging" of the term Free Software - it says nothing about freedom - even though this was the breakthrough back in 1998 that got Free Software into most people's homes.
Personally, I believe RMS and the GNU Project deserve huge credit - without GNU, Linux wouldn't exist! Linux is "just" the kernel.
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zDude! Linus is real, unless declared integer! Uhm, or something.
zI believe it's a standalone game, as in not an add-on, like say a mission pack.
Did I understand you question correctly?
zI've read several places that it's due sometime i the second quarter 2003. Check dh003i's journal for example, there's a reply pasted from a frontier correspondance.
IMHO, seing OGG Vorbis mentioned on their new site at this time is significant. It'll come! :-)
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