Say what? Do you have to cite the library from which you checked out a book you cite, too? Do you have to cite Google if you cite a web resource found that way?
Cash settlements don't usually end criminal investigations.
Worked for Michael Jackson at least once before. If victims refuse to testify or recant, it's pretty hard for even the best prosecutor to get a confiction. And with enough money (or intimidation, or both) victims can be made to do those things.
IIRC, they have a law that prohibits advertising the "after rebate" price unless the rebate is given at the point of sale. Seems to me that's an ideal model law for other states: remove the incentive for this borderline fraudulent practice, and help it go away.
That could be addressed by throttling, rather than banning--or by at least being up front and saying that the bandwidth costs are unaffordable, rather than using the rhetoric of the e-e-e-vil pirates. You know, that whole "communicating honestly" thing.
TPTB at my school have unilaterally blocked BitTorrent, characterizing it as a rogue protocol. The argument the admins make is that any legitimate product will have plenty of bandwidth to be downloadable via http. The administration supports the sysadmins, because they don't like getting C&D's from the *AA, so the power of the technical folks is unchecked--the faculty, traditionally the guardians of freedom on campus, don't even have the issue on their radar.
Examples like this can only help the cause, though I'm not sure by how much.
Ha, ha. As you no doubt know, the fact that Darwin and Aqua are sold in one box is evidence that they are a unit, open-source marketing pander-puff notwithstanding. Amusing attempt at a retort though: B-.
See, the thing about naivite is that people don't know they're experiencing it--by definition. Yes, they made a choice about their code, and perhaps for some perverse reason wanted to allow it to be taken and used commercially with no compensation to them, but that doesn't seem entirely rational.
You're not seeing it--they took BSD, combined it with Aqua as one product. Without that foundation, there is no OS X. So they really did just return some mods to BSD as Darwin, which is nice, but not significant--it was just good PR.
I don't recall having called Apple "evil," though some of their actions of late outside this debate certainly point to that, including support of DRM, suing critics and operators of rumor sites, using DMCA threats to suppress software development, etc.
Yes, OS X without the GUI is crippled, your opinion notwithstanding. Linux and *BSD didn't take an OS derived from an open-source product, add a GUI, and commercialize it, so any comparison you're making here is invalid, but IIRC, they do include a GUI (several, in fact) with their distributions.
Repeat after me. Quartz is part of OS X. OS X is derived from BSD Unix. If BSD Unix had been under the GPL, OS X would have violated the GPL, lest the GUI and OS been sold seperately and no claim of inseperability made.
I don't know what could have happened to it, officer! Must have been the same stray electromagnetism that wiped the stripe on my license!
I'm with you in the "Ew" department :).
Thank you--that was the answer I was looking for. Now it makes sense to me.
Say what? Do you have to cite the library from which you checked out a book you cite, too? Do you have to cite Google if you cite a web resource found that way?
Unless you were testing to see if it had been reported stolen.
No, it's more like if there were no Internet, there'd ne none of these large ISPs.
Which, practically speaking, is the same thing.
On Bob knows who's key along with your intended recipient's, given the encryption is closed source.
Now that makes me sleep better at night . . . NOT!
Worked for Michael Jackson at least once before. If victims refuse to testify or recant, it's pretty hard for even the best prosecutor to get a confiction. And with enough money (or intimidation, or both) victims can be made to do those things.
IIRC, they have a law that prohibits advertising the "after rebate" price unless the rebate is given at the point of sale. Seems to me that's an ideal model law for other states: remove the incentive for this borderline fraudulent practice, and help it go away.
That could be addressed by throttling, rather than banning--or by at least being up front and saying that the bandwidth costs are unaffordable, rather than using the rhetoric of the e-e-e-vil pirates. You know, that whole "communicating honestly" thing.
I pay for that connection, thank you very much.
Examples like this can only help the cause, though I'm not sure by how much.
Your erudition and skills at argumentation, on display here, speak for themselves.
Ha, ha. As you no doubt know, the fact that Darwin and Aqua are sold in one box is evidence that they are a unit, open-source marketing pander-puff notwithstanding. Amusing attempt at a retort though: B-.
Doing the right thing would have been returning the whole product, not just part.
I must have missed the boxed Darwin in CompUSA. Thus, one product.
See, the thing about naivite is that people don't know they're experiencing it--by definition. Yes, they made a choice about their code, and perhaps for some perverse reason wanted to allow it to be taken and used commercially with no compensation to them, but that doesn't seem entirely rational.
I don't recall having called Apple "evil," though some of their actions of late outside this debate certainly point to that, including support of DRM, suing critics and operators of rumor sites, using DMCA threats to suppress software development, etc.
Good comment, and true. I clicked the link in your .sig because I was curious, but it's 404.
And so the state, as the guardian of piety and religion must step in. Oh, wait--that's not right, is it?
Sure, it's legal, but Apple's taking advantage of the naivite of those creating software under the *BSD license isn't necessarily moral.
So once again, you appear to be mistaken.
Repeat after me. Quartz is part of OS X. OS X is derived from BSD Unix. If BSD Unix had been under the GPL, OS X would have violated the GPL, lest the GUI and OS been sold seperately and no claim of inseperability made.