When I was in school in around 6th grade, I had a teacher who typed using the "proper" method and was typing around 60-70wpm. While me, I typed using my "free-style" method. In reality I type similar to the way you're supposed to, just kind of adapted to however I feel. I was averaging 20-40wpm faster then my teacher. Then the jerk makes some remark like "well your score doesn't count because you don't type using the proper method." He hated me, but that's another subject. I now type much faster than I did back in those days and I still use my own method. I don't ever look down at the keyboard. Shit, I've even memorized the locations of the buttons on my TV remote. It's not that hard. As for teaching typing in school, sure, fine, just as long as that people can adopt to their own methods and might end up working better then some kind of preset standard. Currently in real life, I don't know anyone who types faster than I do, but I'm sure many people do. I'm just tired of schools teaching in that "this way is the only way" mentality because it's bullshit. And that's on top of the already large amount of flaws the school system has.
Lie and weasel my way out of it? What the hell kind of assumption is that? And why the hostility? It's not "essentially what I'm saying," it's what you said in response to me, and it's not even a correct analysis of my analogy.
Do people do drugs because it's something they don't like? Why would they do that, just happen to be feeling in a masochistic mood that day? You could say a crack addict was already hooked after the first time they tried it, didn't like it, and still did it anyway because the physical addiction, and if that were true 100% of the time then maybe what you're saying actually would actually make some sense. However free will is a little stronger than that. Give humanity some credit.
So do they enjoy being addicts? How should I know? That isn't what I was saying. Do they enjoy the drug? Well they liked them enough to keep doing it, and enough so to become an addict. Picking at my analogy is not really proving anything.
You know it's funny, humans trying to force others to essentially "survive better." Blah blah natural selection blah blah. So how do you like my lying and weaseling?
What the fuck, vaccinating against drugs? What next, mandatory chemical castration? This is ridiculous. I'm already fed up enough with the endless war on drugs and now this. When will governments get it into their heads that prohibition doesn't stop anything. If you want to go do drugs fine. If you want to tell me not to do drugs, fine. Then to alter someone elses free will accordingly so? What if suddenly I told one of these anti-drug fanatics that something they enjoy doing is now illegal, no matter how "innocent" it seems. I don't think these people really care about the effects their actions have in the long run, as long as they have the delusion that they're in a safer place or what not.
You're all going to die, and so are your kids. Get over it.
I wasn't really sure how to respond to this as many of the points are valid. I don't apologize for violating copyrights and just disagree entirely with the copyright system.
Now, I would support the copyright system if it was a system of open distribution, like a GPL style system, but to say without copyright you can't have the GPL is not really the case if what a person is really advocating is change, not simply elimination. I think the arguments that person made are pretty weak but I also think some of yours are.
You say it's legally and morally wrong. Legally, yes, morally, who's morals? Yours or mine?
I think Abe Lincoln says it better than I ever can:
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
I make backups over the network and everything moves faster. Gkrellm shows 30mb/sec over the interface (and that's about right, the max speed of the servers harddrive.) While I can't fully take advantage of gigabit (as my harddrives aren't that fast) it's still a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. I got 3 nics and an 8 port gigabit switch under $200.
The degradation of fonts could be caused by the bytecode interpreter in freetype being turned on/off. I prefer it off even though it's supposedly better with it on. Apparently there's some legal issues with it so previously it was default off. No idea if this is your problem, but you can try USE="bindist" emerge freetype or USE="-bindist" emerge freetype and see what happens.
I think one of the main problems with linux UI's is that a lot of them try to immitate windows, because that's what people are used to. Sure, that sounds good at first, but then you realize that you're using linux. Windows interfaces work on windows. Linux interfaces work on linux.
So then it comes down to what makes a good linux interface? Closing the source to your software and selling it doesn't make a good linux interface, like the guy in this seemingly anti-source article wrote. At first I was all into what he wrote, but when he used that as a backup to his claims I was somewhat disgusted.
Making a good UI isn't the easiest thing in the world - I'll give the guy credit for claiming that, if it were, you'd see a lot more of them.
The particular cups UI in question I'm not sure I've ever used (I've only used the web interface.) It seems that it doesn't describe the options enough, more specifically the IPP/LPD thing, which I would guess LPD was for backwards compatibility and chose cups, as I'm using cups. Plus, it's the first option.
Having more descriptions sounds like a good idea - but that's assuming the user knows what they want, and the description describes it.
Hiding options that are only used in special cases (perhaps LPD option) seems nice, until you have a user who wants to use that interface only to find out it's hidden.
Graying things out is confusing as well, as I've never seen an automatic detection mechanism that didn't have flaws, not only that but that would also add tons of overhead and confuse a user even more if it were to show false positive/negatives. They'd probably think last that the mechanism was at fault and instead try messing with every other option for who knows how long.
Windows tends to split the options up by asking overly general questions in advance that eliminate certain possibilities. Perhaps something like, does this need to be backwards compatible with older systems? And then that would elimate the LPD option.
While that makes it harder to navigate the options all at once, it tends to make things easier for those who don't really know what they want, and anyone who just clicks through what they don't know would probably just end up using the defaults, which would later on eliminate options and hopefully by the end have everying working correctly. Of course it's possible they'd get it all wrong, that's why people still call me about problems with windows.
No UI is perfect. Hiding options leaves some people out. Too many options confuses some. Asking overly general questions to elimate options is hiding and confusing at the same time. You answer one thing wrong and the correct option is later hidden.
What's the real solution? I really don't know, but closing the source to the software certainly doesn't seem to be it. I'd say the first step is to stop trying to imitate other OS's and to create a unique UI's with more user feedback.
I know I usually don't give up so easily on a problem and almost always get it fixed one way or another. I also tend not to use UIs. I do think some developers try to make good UI's but I think when it comes down to it, despite all said and and done, the unix way of doing things tends to prevail.
If someone is unwilling to fix it themselves, I usually just say "stop using linux." It's either that or I hold their hand through it all, or I do it myself. In which case, I've started charging.
Aunt Tillie will be calling me either way to fix her computer. Windows or Linux.
I know that darwin is unix based, that's why I said it's a competitor to linux. I know that there are linux ppc distros, I even mentioned that I'd use ppc hardware, just not from apple, if it were a better choice for my particular application.
I'm not trolling and I'm not stupid, you misunderstood what I wrote, and blatantly so. I figured I'd get modded as flamebait or troll but I don't give a shit - that's why I rarely post on here.
Yes, apple doesn't usually spread FUD about linux when it comes to media stuff - that isn't what I meant. Apple has this well known reputation for media and "ease of use" isn't exactly an issue when it's comparing photoshop vs photoshop (a common thing that's said.)
I do see the valid points of the argument but my point was that apple has spread tons of bullshit about this media stuff and seems they do have many media applications but the real issue is - do the applications really run any better on macs? Or is it that the mac version is better than a windows version? On top of that, the mac might have more media applications because of this reputation, even if it's not truly the best tool for the job.
When you can't compare photoshop on linux vs photoshop on mac, saying macs are better for media is hardly a fair comparison. Same would go for any other media application. Though I'm sure there are some ways to compare the two platforms using a unix based OS (linux on ppc?) with optimizations and all, the problems that come when trying to compare two different platforms are a big deterrent and an argument that can go on forever.
Your extremely closed minded and most likely counter productive view of media on linux is amusing. Why would no bother using linux for media? It's a perfectly viable option, if some of the big names made ports. At this point, I don't even want to touch commercial software, so perhaps I'm exempt from this to begin with, but to completely disqualify linux from being a viable media option on no basis is a bit harsh.
I take this as somewhat of a low blow to linux. Even if it is on just the production machines and not the serverfarms that are being switched.
I'm just going to state right now that I'm not an apple fan - it doesn't suit my purposes. Not that I don't like ppc64 or what not, I'd buy a ppc 64 machine from ibm or whoever if the support was there when it comes to games and such on linux but I wouldn't buy it from apple. I don't like their philosophy and their marketing propaganda. Perhaps I'm biased but lets get back to the point.
If you look at it, apple is competiting much more in linux's market in this particular field than microsoft is. Clustering and server farms are much more scalable using unix based os's or that's at least what it seems to me.
I doubt it would do anything too severe but I look at apple as a company competiting just like any other and with their long standing FUDed up history of being good with media and what not with most people not even examining the claims and just accepting them...it does seem that the elitist following that apple has can sometimes be hurtful towards linux.
I'm not attacking apple users - I don't hold it against anyone who's not bought into the silly propaganda that apple likes to spout, but in a world full of silly marketing bullshit and 99.9% of people blindly following along like senseless droids, what am I to expect?
I am not one to post on here much but seeing things like this in the news makes me angry. So while Steve Jobs can be happy about the switch, I just have another reason not to like the guy, and his companies. Including pixar (which I don't think makes very good movies to begin with.)
Sure, mod me down, I'm opinionated and spouting bullshit, right? I'm tired of apple propaganda. I'm tired of apple's trendy appeal. I'm tired of seeing apple commercials on TV, I'm tired of hearing about pixar movies, and let's not even talk about debian's decision to call 3.0 woody.
I don't have a link to show, but I am positive there are phones that support both GSM and TDMA. They aren't backwards compatible, though, so it's basically like having 2 phones in one. There's also dual band and tri band GSM phones which most likely aren't even effected by this whole upgrade mess (mine isn't.)
I got the radio model because it had stereo sound. It can use the btaudio linux driver to capture digital audio right from the chip itself, no loopback cable (analog) needed. I use it to record tv daily and it works extremely well. Mine uses the bt878 chip but some models (recent PAL models I think) use a different chip which isn't supported as well under linux.
..but ended up finding a really good deal on an 18u rack on ebay instead. I can say that all you really need is the rails (which aren't as cheap as you'd think) and to make it easy you could bolt a rack appliance into them to get the exact space you need between them which is 19" between the outer edge of the rails from what I measure on my rack. You probably will need some kind of spacer between the rails and whatever they're bolted to, as you probably want some room to work with around the rails but all you really need is probably a few washers inbetween the screws and the rail. Anyway for the most part its quite easy. I picked up some rack shelves on ebay for real cheap and that completed the deal. Here's a picture rack.jpg
Everytime there is one of these RIAA articles there's always everyone going on about how bad the situation is and how they shouldn't do what they're doing, but that musicians should somehow still get compensated or what not. Doesn't anyone see the fundamental flaws with copyright and IP in common to begin with? A temporary grant of monopoly? Telling someone you can't copy something, yet you give it out? As my sig says, if you don't want someone to copy something, don't give it to anyone, it's that simple! If your human desire for territory gets in the way, learn to control your urges! You want to kill the problem? Start at the source, don't bullshit around the fact that copyright is majorly flawed just to save the few truly suffering, you can't make any good change without hurting someone. They could still do live performances if they really wanted cash but in the mean time, get a real job. Most musicians profit off fame, not their musical talents, and I hate pop bullshit american idolism. Of course there are the biased who benefit off it or have the friends that are one of those starving artists or those who believe people should be compensated for their long and hard efforts but shit, no one forced them to make their music, and any true musician would want to make music whether or not they were making money, doing it for the artistic value.
Yeah, someone will disagree, but no one agrees on everything. I stopped giving a shit.
"Linux is free like a puppy. It looks free but when you get all the pieces around it, it doesn't work out so free. There's a lot more than I/O and memory management to make up an operating system."
Really? And microsoft would know this how? They never had good I/O and memory management. And there's a lot more to linux then memory management and I/O, this is just silly. I find having many pieces that work together and do that well a whole lot better then one big piece that doesn't work so well and you can't interchange pieces from.
"We need to build a vibrant and healthy developer community. That's the lesson Linux has taught us. Having people to help. Knowing where to get questions answered," Rudder said.
yes, and treating consumers like crap is a perfect way to get the developers on your side! GO TEAM MICROSOFT!!
sure i suppose that could work..but then apple would try and find a way to sue every penny out of you. it still wouldn't show that apple has tried to help linux any.
I've never thought OS X was helpful to linux what so ever. Apple, being not the most popular OS had a lack of software. Now that it's BSD based, linux software can now be ported to it. A blow to linux, IMO, not helpful to it. Sure, it brings people to use unix, but to stick a propriotery layer over it, and then apple programs only run on that layer? I'd give apple credit if they actually helped linux and allowed OS X and other apple programs to be ported to it, but I seriously doubt that will happen. Apple may not be as bad as microsoft, but they're not much better either. I have yet to see apple make one attempt to help the linux community, but I've seen things that could hurt it.
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I just got a dvr-108 and it's great. From what I've read the quality of burnt discs are consistently better then the NEC's, which is why I got it.
When I was in school in around 6th grade, I had a teacher who typed using the "proper" method and was typing around 60-70wpm. While me, I typed using my "free-style" method. In reality I type similar to the way you're supposed to, just kind of adapted to however I feel. I was averaging 20-40wpm faster then my teacher. Then the jerk makes some remark like "well your score doesn't count because you don't type using the proper method." He hated me, but that's another subject. I now type much faster than I did back in those days and I still use my own method. I don't ever look down at the keyboard. Shit, I've even memorized the locations of the buttons on my TV remote. It's not that hard. As for teaching typing in school, sure, fine, just as long as that people can adopt to their own methods and might end up working better then some kind of preset standard. Currently in real life, I don't know anyone who types faster than I do, but I'm sure many people do. I'm just tired of schools teaching in that "this way is the only way" mentality because it's bullshit. And that's on top of the already large amount of flaws the school system has.
Lie and weasel my way out of it? What the hell kind of assumption is that? And why the hostility? It's not "essentially what I'm saying," it's what you said in response to me, and it's not even a correct analysis of my analogy.
Do people do drugs because it's something they don't like? Why would they do that, just happen to be feeling in a masochistic mood that day? You could say a crack addict was already hooked after the first time they tried it, didn't like it, and still did it anyway because the physical addiction, and if that were true 100% of the time then maybe what you're saying actually would actually make some sense. However free will is a little stronger than that. Give humanity some credit.
So do they enjoy being addicts? How should I know? That isn't what I was saying. Do they enjoy the drug? Well they liked them enough to keep doing it, and enough so to become an addict. Picking at my analogy is not really proving anything.
You know it's funny, humans trying to force others to essentially "survive better." Blah blah natural selection blah blah. So how do you like my lying and weaseling?
What the fuck, vaccinating against drugs? What next, mandatory chemical castration? This is ridiculous. I'm already fed up enough with the endless war on drugs and now this. When will governments get it into their heads that prohibition doesn't stop anything. If you want to go do drugs fine. If you want to tell me not to do drugs, fine. Then to alter someone elses free will accordingly so? What if suddenly I told one of these anti-drug fanatics that something they enjoy doing is now illegal, no matter how "innocent" it seems. I don't think these people really care about the effects their actions have in the long run, as long as they have the delusion that they're in a safer place or what not.
You're all going to die, and so are your kids. Get over it.
Will this work on my buckling spring keyboard?
I wasn't really sure how to respond to this as many of the points are valid. I don't apologize for violating copyrights and just disagree entirely with the copyright system.
Now, I would support the copyright system if it was a system of open distribution, like a GPL style system, but to say without copyright you can't have the GPL is not really the case if what a person is really advocating is change, not simply elimination. I think the arguments that person made are pretty weak but I also think some of yours are.
You say it's legally and morally wrong. Legally, yes, morally, who's morals? Yours or mine?
I think Abe Lincoln says it better than I ever can:
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
I make backups over the network and everything moves faster. Gkrellm shows 30mb/sec over the interface (and that's about right, the max speed of the servers harddrive.) While I can't fully take advantage of gigabit (as my harddrives aren't that fast) it's still a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. I got 3 nics and an 8 port gigabit switch under $200.
The degradation of fonts could be caused by the bytecode interpreter in freetype being turned on/off. I prefer it off even though it's supposedly better with it on. Apparently there's some legal issues with it so previously it was default off. No idea if this is your problem, but you can try USE="bindist" emerge freetype or USE="-bindist" emerge freetype and see what happens.
I think one of the main problems with linux UI's is that a lot of them try to immitate windows, because that's what people are used to. Sure, that sounds good at first, but then you realize that you're using linux. Windows interfaces work on windows. Linux interfaces work on linux.
So then it comes down to what makes a good linux interface? Closing the source to your software and selling it doesn't make a good linux interface, like the guy in this seemingly anti-source article wrote. At first I was all into what he wrote, but when he used that as a backup to his claims I was somewhat disgusted.
Making a good UI isn't the easiest thing in the world - I'll give the guy credit for claiming that, if it were, you'd see a lot more of them.
The particular cups UI in question I'm not sure I've ever used (I've only used the web interface.) It seems that it doesn't describe the options enough, more specifically the IPP/LPD thing, which I would guess LPD was for backwards compatibility and chose cups, as I'm using cups. Plus, it's the first option.
Having more descriptions sounds like a good idea - but that's assuming the user knows what they want, and the description describes it.
Hiding options that are only used in special cases (perhaps LPD option) seems nice, until you have a user who wants to use that interface only to find out it's hidden.
Graying things out is confusing as well, as I've never seen an automatic detection mechanism that didn't have flaws, not only that but that would also add tons of overhead and confuse a user even more if it were to show false positive/negatives. They'd probably think last that the mechanism was at fault and instead try messing with every other option for who knows how long.
Windows tends to split the options up by asking overly general questions in advance that eliminate certain possibilities. Perhaps something like, does this need to be backwards compatible with older systems? And then that would elimate the LPD option.
While that makes it harder to navigate the options all at once, it tends to make things easier for those who don't really know what they want, and anyone who just clicks through what they don't know would probably just end up using the defaults, which would later on eliminate options and hopefully by the end have everying working correctly. Of course it's possible they'd get it all wrong, that's why people still call me about problems with windows.
No UI is perfect. Hiding options leaves some people out. Too many options confuses some. Asking overly general questions to elimate options is hiding and confusing at the same time. You answer one thing wrong and the correct option is later hidden.
What's the real solution? I really don't know, but closing the source to the software certainly doesn't seem to be it. I'd say the first step is to stop trying to imitate other OS's and to create a unique UI's with more user feedback.
I know I usually don't give up so easily on a problem and almost always get it fixed one way or another. I also tend not to use UIs. I do think some developers try to make good UI's but I think when it comes down to it, despite all said and and done, the unix way of doing things tends to prevail.
If someone is unwilling to fix it themselves, I usually just say "stop using linux." It's either that or I hold their hand through it all, or I do it myself. In which case, I've started charging.
Aunt Tillie will be calling me either way to fix her computer. Windows or Linux.
I know that darwin is unix based, that's why I said it's a competitor to linux. I know that there are linux ppc distros, I even mentioned that I'd use ppc hardware, just not from apple, if it were a better choice for my particular application.
I'm not trolling and I'm not stupid, you misunderstood what I wrote, and blatantly so. I figured I'd get modded as flamebait or troll but I don't give a shit - that's why I rarely post on here.
Yes, apple doesn't usually spread FUD about linux when it comes to media stuff - that isn't what I meant. Apple has this well known reputation for media and "ease of use" isn't exactly an issue when it's comparing photoshop vs photoshop (a common thing that's said.)
I do see the valid points of the argument but my point was that apple has spread tons of bullshit about this media stuff and seems they do have many media applications but the real issue is - do the applications really run any better on macs? Or is it that the mac version is better than a windows version? On top of that, the mac might have more media applications because of this reputation, even if it's not truly the best tool for the job.
When you can't compare photoshop on linux vs photoshop on mac, saying macs are better for media is hardly a fair comparison. Same would go for any other media application. Though I'm sure there are some ways to compare the two platforms using a unix based OS (linux on ppc?) with optimizations and all, the problems that come when trying to compare two different platforms are a big deterrent and an argument that can go on forever.
Your extremely closed minded and most likely counter productive view of media on linux is amusing. Why would no bother using linux for media? It's a perfectly viable option, if some of the big names made ports. At this point, I don't even want to touch commercial software, so perhaps I'm exempt from this to begin with, but to completely disqualify linux from being a viable media option on no basis is a bit harsh.
I take this as somewhat of a low blow to linux. Even if it is on just the production machines and not the serverfarms that are being switched.
I'm just going to state right now that I'm not an apple fan - it doesn't suit my purposes. Not that I don't like ppc64 or what not, I'd buy a ppc 64 machine from ibm or whoever if the support was there when it comes to games and such on linux but I wouldn't buy it from apple. I don't like their philosophy and their marketing propaganda. Perhaps I'm biased but lets get back to the point.
If you look at it, apple is competiting much more in linux's market in this particular field than microsoft is. Clustering and server farms are much more scalable using unix based os's or that's at least what it seems to me.
I doubt it would do anything too severe but I look at apple as a company competiting just like any other and with their long standing FUDed up history of being good with media and what not with most people not even examining the claims and just accepting them...it does seem that the elitist following that apple has can sometimes be hurtful towards linux.
I'm not attacking apple users - I don't hold it against anyone who's not bought into the silly propaganda that apple likes to spout, but in a world full of silly marketing bullshit and 99.9% of people blindly following along like senseless droids, what am I to expect?
I am not one to post on here much but seeing things like this in the news makes me angry. So while Steve Jobs can be happy about the switch, I just have another reason not to like the guy, and his companies. Including pixar (which I don't think makes very good movies to begin with.)
Sure, mod me down, I'm opinionated and spouting bullshit, right? I'm tired of apple propaganda. I'm tired of apple's trendy appeal. I'm tired of seeing apple commercials on TV, I'm tired of hearing about pixar movies, and let's not even talk about debian's decision to call 3.0 woody.
I need a break.
I don't have a link to show, but I am positive there are phones that support both GSM and TDMA. They aren't backwards compatible, though, so it's basically like having 2 phones in one. There's also dual band and tri band GSM phones which most likely aren't even effected by this whole upgrade mess (mine isn't.)
I got the radio model because it had stereo sound. It can use the btaudio linux driver to capture digital audio right from the chip itself, no loopback cable (analog) needed. I use it to record tv daily and it works extremely well. Mine uses the bt878 chip but some models (recent PAL models I think) use a different chip which isn't supported as well under linux.
..but ended up finding a really good deal on an 18u rack on ebay instead. I can say that all you really need is the rails (which aren't as cheap as you'd think) and to make it easy you could bolt a rack appliance into them to get the exact space you need between them which is 19" between the outer edge of the rails from what I measure on my rack. You probably will need some kind of spacer between the rails and whatever they're bolted to, as you probably want some room to work with around the rails but all you really need is probably a few washers inbetween the screws and the rail. Anyway for the most part its quite easy. I picked up some rack shelves on ebay for real cheap and that completed the deal. Here's a picture rack.jpg
this is far from being a new thing.
Everytime there is one of these RIAA articles there's always everyone going on about how bad the situation is and how they shouldn't do what they're doing, but that musicians should somehow still get compensated or what not. Doesn't anyone see the fundamental flaws with copyright and IP in common to begin with? A temporary grant of monopoly? Telling someone you can't copy something, yet you give it out? As my sig says, if you don't want someone to copy something, don't give it to anyone, it's that simple! If your human desire for territory gets in the way, learn to control your urges! You want to kill the problem? Start at the source, don't bullshit around the fact that copyright is majorly flawed just to save the few truly suffering, you can't make any good change without hurting someone. They could still do live performances if they really wanted cash but in the mean time, get a real job. Most musicians profit off fame, not their musical talents, and I hate pop bullshit american idolism. Of course there are the biased who benefit off it or have the friends that are one of those starving artists or those who believe people should be compensated for their long and hard efforts but shit, no one forced them to make their music, and any true musician would want to make music whether or not they were making money, doing it for the artistic value.
Yeah, someone will disagree, but no one agrees on everything. I stopped giving a shit.
"Linux is free like a puppy. It looks free but when you get all the pieces around it, it doesn't work out so free. There's a lot more than I/O and memory management to make up an operating system." Really? And microsoft would know this how? They never had good I/O and memory management. And there's a lot more to linux then memory management and I/O, this is just silly. I find having many pieces that work together and do that well a whole lot better then one big piece that doesn't work so well and you can't interchange pieces from. "We need to build a vibrant and healthy developer community. That's the lesson Linux has taught us. Having people to help. Knowing where to get questions answered," Rudder said. yes, and treating consumers like crap is a perfect way to get the developers on your side! GO TEAM MICROSOFT!!
sure i suppose that could work..but then apple would try and find a way to sue every penny out of you. it still wouldn't show that apple has tried to help linux any.
I've never thought OS X was helpful to linux what so ever. Apple, being not the most popular OS had a lack of software. Now that it's BSD based, linux software can now be ported to it. A blow to linux, IMO, not helpful to it. Sure, it brings people to use unix, but to stick a propriotery layer over it, and then apple programs only run on that layer? I'd give apple credit if they actually helped linux and allowed OS X and other apple programs to be ported to it, but I seriously doubt that will happen. Apple may not be as bad as microsoft, but they're not much better either. I have yet to see apple make one attempt to help the linux community, but I've seen things that could hurt it.