Maybe thats why I'm always stuck awake late at night.. I second the other reply - Please elaborate and/or cite some references so we can find out more.
They never could, its always been a marketing lie. Theo would rather hide things from his users than admit vulns, as the only thing that matters to him is his ego. See the old ntalkd vuln, this vuln, or the local crash that you still need to get a patch off the obsd mailing list because theo won't make an announcement.
"freeBSD drops cups.sh into/usr/local/etc/rc.d, which is even better. No need to symlink it to death."
Better? Thats one of the things I hated most about freebsd --/usr/local/ was used for EVERYTHING, hunting down where anything gets installed became a huge task even worse than redhats/opt/. You had to babysit every install just to clean stuff up. Thank God for Debian-- Even sorts the docs for you.
" The whole reason it's been delayed from Christmas was to change the game enough that compatible cheats couldn't be written with the leaked source code."
No, It was because the game wasn't finished. Download some of the anonymous leaks (the official ones from Ossama Bin Leaker, not the ones by some stupid fbibait kiddy that puts their real handle on something so huge). The game is nowhere near releasable, Valve needs more time.
The Source leak also won't change cheats because its really irrelevant. All the good cheat authors (Joolz, Bunny, some less popular ones) do it purely for the challenge. Ever wonder why they're called hackers, as are we? Its the same mindset. Theres no fun in moddifying the sourcecode a bit and magically having no walls. Whats fun is to take the.NET framework which microsoft says shouldnt be able to interfere with other applications and turning it into one of the largest HalfLife hooks (MetaCheat).
" Nope, Half-Life 2 is pure DirectX only (versions 6 to 9, quite impressive compatibility really)."
Maybe in the final version, but in the beta that leaked it ran fine under OpenGL. Not that I'd know of course, I just heard about it on the discovery channel. (/best excuse ever).
For them to take it out now would piss off a lot of people, especially since the support was in at some point. It would be like microsoft buying out whoever made VirtualPC and cutting mac support..
"Cheaters who keep their hacks private are unlikely to ever be detected unless fingered with the PB screenshot facility."
I'm suprised no ET/RTCW cheat has done what the most famous HL hack(OGC) does: hook screenshotting, and toggle all hacks off then back on. Its so fast you don't even notice, but its a lot easier on hl as server side is just execing the snapshot command, but I'm sure you could find a way to hook PB's screenshot in addition to the game. Also, I'm suprised there arn't any hacks based entirely on sound output? Something that plays a little beep every time you hit someone through a wall, an audible timer for games with respawning items, and all that stuff would be really helpful and hard to detect (screenshots would show nothing, you could even do it on lan and no one would know.)
Do it on lan then? While I don't play ET anymore (Fun game, but gets boring), I know for a fact it doesn't take the sourcecode to cheat. First off, its opengl so any asus wallhack would work, giving you transparent walls. Second off, its quake3 based so writing an aimbot is only as hard as adjusting a few things in one of the many q3 bots. The sourcecode won't change anything.
I HATE a poorly designed GUI. The problem is theres hardly any mix. GUI input has nothing on a well made console app (GNU Readline hotkeys, vim style, whatever gets you off). GUI output is preferably for some things(webbrowsing, porn viewing, any other 'rich' content). Hopefully at some point we'll have an advanced enough system where I can have a standard normal looking 80x25 console that can drop in a picture at any time. The closest we have is fullscreen Eterms running under a minimalist WM, but no *term has the same look and feel as a real console.
I have to disagree. That might of been true back in win98, but now its entirely hardware dependant. Its so much easier to lspci and find your hardware info, then compile/load a module than wait half a year for windows' wizard to try and detect it, then fail to find the driver. Your best bet is google to find you some registration required driver site that probably has spyware added in. A good example is google for my sound card, Creative/Ensoniq es1371. Phrase the search however you want, you'll end up with a bunch of ALSA pages, even more OSS pages, and then a few pages back you might get a windows reference.
Huge pain, but I eventually get it working. Now lets move on to Logitech MouseWare for my MX500 mouse. Ignoring the fact that MouseWare introduces so many bugs that its not worth using if you game at all, I'll focus on the install process: Run setup.exe, error about it not supporting my OS version (win2003 corp). Fine. Trick the installer using the Application Compatability feature of windows and it installs fine. Then I notice its an old version of mouseware, so I try to download a new one. Of course this version won't install at all, and forces me to recover the driver mudge with safe mode. Joy. End up using default driver (without support for the 8th mousebutton).
Now that we're done with sound and mouse, lets get my digital camera working so I can show off my new machine. Or maybe the driver will install fine, but then not read at all if I'm lucky enough for it to not just BSOD? Repeat until I get the driver mess to finally settle, without getting my cam working (How hard is it to support a device that can drop to a simple USB HD format?)
Before anyone says anything about using win2k3, I'd call it the equiv. of linux 2.6 as far as supportability/age. Except that linux 2.6 supports 99% of what worked in 2.4, and I can exchange 2.2/2.4/2.6 in a matter of minutes, try that with Windows.
"Buying off on all that for a moment, how to license the product? Part of me want to GPL"
GPL for the public, and sell private licenses to companies. Lets face it, not everyone can live by the terms of the GPL, and thats a good thing. This way you can keep it GPL, but sell it to whatever company wants your product but can't go GPL (be it moral reasons, or maybe they're already using proprietery code and can't link them due to GPL).
" Uhhh, creating Linux took years. Creating a viable piece of software that someone will pay for takes a lot of effort, and a lot of time."
He's not talking about the kernel, or the desktop. He's talking about the stuff we hack together FOR linux. The perl script you spent a weekend on to `insert niche here`. Thats what can be sold (even while keeping it GPL).
"Without some form of savings/income to draw upon, one can't develop software on their own (Free or not). "
True, but thats where the unemployed part comes in. You're not getting a source of income/savings anyways, so why not start coding? Beats watching geraldo all day.
"You don't get a net connection for free." If you mean residential, You can hack from a $10 dialup account if need be, do all your work local then put it on a sourceforge page. Once you get some clients, chances are one of them will be able to work out a hosting deal with you.
Its always been there and defaults if you don't have flash installed. If you do, its right under the monitor looking thing at the bottom of the menu: 'html menu'.
"other than being able to get people to vote for him."
Don't forget that the same people voting for him are the ones that got Family Guy, Dark Angel, FireFly, etc cancled, yet got us a few dozen shows like american kareoke^Widol.
While I realise you're joking, thats actually not that uncommon due to the way the human mind works (or doesnt work for that matter). I've seen the shyest people be fine over online voice comm, and other such execptions. Personally, I'm incredably screwed when it comes to voice communication(mics or phones), to the point where I cant even say 'need backup' or 'bomb down' in counterstrike, yet I have no problem goin with them to CPL(think huge giant LAN tournament). The human mind is a confusing thing.
I keep an offline copy of 1.6 beta with TurtleRockStudio(think ConditionZero)'s CSBot 1.0.
Good for lanning/botting/testing stuff/working on jumps. Granted, it is an old copy so it has old vulns (throwing shield through walls and such), but its better than nothing.
google: csbot
The only reason to keep 1.5 now is watching your old 1.3/1.4/1.5 demos. I wish valve would release a 'Media Edtion' of cstrike that plays all demos 1.0 and up and better controls and record options for people making movies.
None of which would wow her in the least. Sure, We know knoppix is the best thing since journaled filesystems, but all she sees is another average desktop. Now, show her the Windows Longhorn demo and she'll open her wallet, or purse or whatever crazy british moneystorage they use. We really need more promotional media, even if not aired anywhere but just for use in presentations and whatever else. I'd make some if I had more time, but time is money and I'm broke.
"You dont save anything if you have it, your just panalized if you dont."
Not always true, while yes they do jack the prices up when introducing card systems, a local store here offers coupons based on what you buy. decent use of user tracking.
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Maybe thats why I'm always stuck awake late at night.. I second the other reply - Please elaborate and/or cite some references so we can find out more.
They never could, its always been a marketing lie. Theo would rather hide things from his users than admit vulns, as the only thing that matters to him is his ego. See the old ntalkd vuln, this vuln, or the local crash that you still need to get a patch off the obsd mailing list because theo won't make an announcement.
"freeBSD drops cups.sh into /usr/local/etc/rc.d, which is even better. No need to symlink it to death."
/usr/local/ was used for EVERYTHING, hunting down where anything gets installed became a huge task even worse than redhats /opt/. You had to babysit every install just to clean stuff up. Thank God for Debian-- Even sorts the docs for you.
Better? Thats one of the things I hated most about freebsd --
Being able to search for books, find books you would like based on others' purcheses, not being limited by stock in store, amazon giftcards, etc.
" The whole reason it's been delayed from Christmas was to change the game enough that compatible cheats couldn't be written with the leaked source code."
.NET framework which microsoft says shouldnt be able to interfere with other applications and turning it into one of the largest HalfLife hooks (MetaCheat).
No, It was because the game wasn't finished. Download some of the anonymous leaks (the official ones from Ossama Bin Leaker, not the ones by some stupid fbibait kiddy that puts their real handle on something so huge).
The game is nowhere near releasable, Valve needs more time.
The Source leak also won't change cheats because its really irrelevant. All the good cheat authors (Joolz, Bunny, some less popular ones) do it purely for the challenge. Ever wonder why they're called hackers, as are we? Its the same mindset. Theres no fun in moddifying the sourcecode a bit and magically having no walls. Whats fun is to take the
" Nope, Half-Life 2 is pure DirectX only (versions 6 to 9, quite impressive compatibility really)."
Maybe in the final version, but in the beta that leaked it ran fine under OpenGL. Not that I'd know of course, I just heard about it on the discovery channel. (/best excuse ever).
For them to take it out now would piss off a lot of people, especially since the support was in at some point. It would be like microsoft buying out whoever made VirtualPC and cutting mac support..
Dude, have you seen his daughter? I'd install x10 cams in her room any day!
Watercool. There, now we have a silent machine, AND the answer to 'how many slashdot posters does it take to get a silent machine?'
"Cheaters who keep their hacks private are unlikely to ever be detected unless fingered with the PB screenshot facility."
I'm suprised no ET/RTCW cheat has done what the most famous HL hack(OGC) does: hook screenshotting, and toggle all hacks off then back on. Its so fast you don't even notice, but its a lot easier on hl as server side is just execing the snapshot command, but I'm sure you could find a way to hook PB's screenshot in addition to the game.
Also, I'm suprised there arn't any hacks based entirely on sound output? Something that plays a little beep every time you hit someone through a wall, an audible timer for games with respawning items, and all that stuff would be really helpful and hard to detect (screenshots would show nothing, you could even do it on lan and no one would know.)
Do it on lan then? While I don't play ET anymore (Fun game, but gets boring), I know for a fact it doesn't take the sourcecode to cheat. First off, its opengl so any asus wallhack would work, giving you transparent walls. Second off, its quake3 based so writing an aimbot is only as hard as adjusting a few things in one of the many q3 bots. The sourcecode won't change anything.
I HATE a poorly designed GUI. The problem is theres hardly any mix. GUI input has nothing on a well made console app (GNU Readline hotkeys, vim style, whatever gets you off). GUI output is preferably for some things(webbrowsing, porn viewing, any other 'rich' content). Hopefully at some point we'll have an advanced enough system where I can have a standard normal looking 80x25 console that can drop in a picture at any time. The closest we have is fullscreen Eterms running under a minimalist WM, but no *term has the same look and feel as a real console.
Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
Win2k3 corperate server.
What happened to version inflating in good OS tradition (*cough* count slackware versions sometime)?
"install hardware easily"
I have to disagree. That might of been true back in win98, but now its entirely hardware dependant. Its so much easier to lspci and find your hardware info, then compile/load a module than wait half a year for windows' wizard to try and detect it, then fail to find the driver. Your best bet is google to find you some registration required driver site that probably has spyware added in.
A good example is google for my sound card, Creative/Ensoniq es1371. Phrase the search however you want, you'll end up with a bunch of ALSA pages, even more OSS pages, and then a few pages back you might get a windows reference.
Huge pain, but I eventually get it working. Now lets move on to Logitech MouseWare for my MX500 mouse. Ignoring the fact that MouseWare introduces so many bugs that its not worth using if you game at all, I'll focus on the install process:
Run setup.exe, error about it not supporting my OS version (win2003 corp). Fine. Trick the installer using the Application Compatability feature of windows and it installs fine. Then I notice its an old version of mouseware, so I try to download a new one. Of course this version won't install at all, and forces me to recover the driver mudge with safe mode. Joy. End up using default driver (without support for the 8th mousebutton).
Now that we're done with sound and mouse, lets get my digital camera working so I can show off my new machine. Or maybe the driver will install fine, but then not read at all if I'm lucky enough for it to not just BSOD? Repeat until I get the driver mess to finally settle, without getting my cam working (How hard is it to support a device that can drop to a simple USB HD format?)
Before anyone says anything about using win2k3, I'd call it the equiv. of linux 2.6 as far as supportability/age. Except that linux 2.6 supports 99% of what worked in 2.4, and I can exchange 2.2/2.4/2.6 in a matter of minutes, try that with Windows.
"Where's the recent inventions? ;)"
In my pants.
"Buying off on all that for a moment, how to license the product? Part of me want to GPL"
GPL for the public, and sell private licenses to companies. Lets face it, not everyone can live by the terms of the GPL, and thats a good thing. This way you can keep it GPL, but sell it to whatever company wants your product but can't go GPL (be it moral reasons, or maybe they're already using proprietery code and can't link them due to GPL).
" Uhhh, creating Linux took years. Creating a viable piece of software that someone will pay for takes a lot of effort, and a lot of time."
He's not talking about the kernel, or the desktop. He's talking about the stuff we hack together FOR linux. The perl script you spent a weekend on to `insert niche here`. Thats what can be sold (even while keeping it GPL).
"Without some form of savings/income to draw upon, one can't develop software on their own (Free or not). "
True, but thats where the unemployed part comes in. You're not getting a source of income/savings anyways, so why not start coding? Beats watching geraldo all day.
"You don't get a net connection for free."
If you mean residential, You can hack from a $10 dialup account if need be, do all your work local then put it on a sourceforge page. Once you get some clients, chances are one of them will be able to work out a hosting deal with you.
Its always been there and defaults if you don't have flash installed. If you do, its right under the monitor looking thing at the bottom of the menu: 'html menu'.
"other than being able to get people to vote for him."
Don't forget that the same people voting for him are the ones that got Family Guy, Dark Angel, FireFly, etc cancled, yet got us a few dozen shows like american kareoke^Widol.
" Sure, but he had a C average"
What was your average at Harvard?
"'gotta love shy porn stars."
While I realise you're joking, thats actually not that uncommon due to the way the human mind works (or doesnt work for that matter). I've seen the shyest people be fine over online voice comm, and other such execptions. Personally, I'm incredably screwed when it comes to voice communication(mics or phones), to the point where I cant even say 'need backup' or 'bomb down' in counterstrike, yet I have no problem goin with them to CPL(think huge giant LAN tournament). The human mind is a confusing thing.
"Why? You bettin that all of the three billion males ahead of you are going to suddenly die off?"
Phase1) Weapons of mass destruction.
Phase2) ???
Phase3) Girlfriend!
I keep an offline copy of 1.6 beta with TurtleRockStudio(think ConditionZero)'s CSBot 1.0.
Good for lanning/botting/testing stuff/working on jumps. Granted, it is an old copy so it has old vulns (throwing shield through walls and such), but its better than nothing.
google: csbot
The only reason to keep 1.5 now is watching your old 1.3/1.4/1.5 demos. I wish valve would release a 'Media Edtion' of cstrike that plays all demos 1.0 and up and better controls and record options for people making movies.
None of which would wow her in the least. Sure, We know knoppix is the best thing since journaled filesystems, but all she sees is another average desktop. Now, show her the Windows Longhorn demo and she'll open her wallet, or purse or whatever crazy british moneystorage they use. We really need more promotional media, even if not aired anywhere but just for use in presentations and whatever else. I'd make some if I had more time, but time is money and I'm broke.
Better link here. Plain text, and even links to the penny arcade showing it.
"You dont save anything if you have it, your just panalized if you dont."
Not always true, while yes they do jack the prices up when introducing card systems, a local store here offers coupons based on what you buy. decent use of user tracking.