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Whose Desktop Would You Most Like To See?

An anonymous reader writes "Have you ever been curious about what someone else's computing environment looks like? Would you like to see what tools and products someone like Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, George Bush, or Steve Jobs uses on a daily basis? What percentage of time is spent browsing the web, working in spreadsheets, programming, debugging, designing, or writing documents? How many monitors or devices do they have attached to their PC? What kind of security or anonymizers do they have in place?" For good or ill, open source developers' desktops at least are often visible in screenshots of their pet projects.

920 comments

  1. Jenna Jameson by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jennas desktop is the one *I* would like to see the most!

    1. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, the question was LOOK AT, not HIDE UNDER.

    2. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would rather have Jenna Jameson sitting ON my desktop; literally.

    3. Re:Jenna Jameson by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

      what, why would you like to look at my picture?

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    4. Re:Jenna Jameson by onemorehour · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd rather see Bill Clinton's list of bookmarks.

    5. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? got a laptop?

    6. Re:Jenna Jameson by BoldAC · · Score: 1

      -=chuckle=-

      If I only Karma points...

      AC

    7. Re:Jenna Jameson by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 3, Funny

      I heard she plays Quake3 and reads Slashdot. Off the main topic, but I thought it was cool.

      Jenna, if you ever need a good geek to replace that goob boyfriend -- look me up. :]

    8. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it, could anybody please explain it?

    9. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are thinking of Asia Carrera. And don't ask me why I know that.

    10. Re:Jenna Jameson by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 1

      Ah, thanks for the correction.

      Asia is a better acress, anyway. The great thing about her, she looks like 3/4 of the asian women out there. So it's easy to get something close to a porn star girly for a geek. :)

    11. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy's saying that Jenna Jameson has his picture on her desktop.

    12. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's funny, that's what my girlfriend says about me: "I've got a boyfriend that looks like a porn star". Unfortunately, the porn star she's referring to is Ron Jeremy.

    13. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's stupid and not funny. i'm sure Jenna Jameson has a picture of a girl being fucked by a dog or some kinda hermaphrodite picture. In the case of a hermaphrodite picture, why would you want to look at a picture of me?

    14. Re:Jenna Jameson by nick_urbanik · · Score: 1
      she looks like 3/4 of the asian women out there.

      Most of you Kwai Lo look all the same to us asians too!

    15. Re:Jenna Jameson by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Jenna, if you ever need a good geek to replace that goob boyfriend -- look me up. :]"

      Why? You bettin that all of the three billion males ahead of you are going to suddenly die off?

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    16. Re:Jenna Jameson by Ravenrage · · Score: 0

      don't u mean ur laptop? ;)

    17. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    18. Re:Jenna Jameson by Gr33nNight · · Score: 1

      No, I just want to see the pics that turn YOU on :)

    19. Re:Jenna Jameson by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      I read an article in a Computing magazine by Asia Carrera once (the next issue had letters asking if it was THE Asia Carrera and indeed it was) I want to say it was "PC Magazine" but i also had a subscription to "Maximum PC". I heard she runs her own web site...

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    20. Re:Jenna Jameson by PygmySurfer · · Score: 1

      It was Maximum PC. I remember reading the follow-up in the letters section asking if it was indeed her.

    21. Re:Jenna Jameson by Al-Hala · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

      A very long time ago (she no longer posts these notes), I was searching Google for Webmastering Tips.

      I was blown off my chair when one of the top ten searches was a porn star, giving out Photoshop and HTML tips.

    22. Re:Jenna Jameson by finity · · Score: 2, Funny

      what, why would you like to look at my picture?

    23. Re:Jenna Jameson by Compuser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ahh, a flamewar about which washed up old porn
      "actress" is better. Should be good...

    24. Re:Jenna Jameson by firstadopter.com · · Score: 1

      You think she has a desktop? I don't think so, she's probably out partying all the time and doing her movies.

    25. Re:Jenna Jameson by firstadopter.com · · Score: 1

      what do you think is on her desktop? does she even have a computer? probably AOL. lol

    26. Re:Jenna Jameson by parliboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Impossible. You can't see her desk top when she's lying on it.

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      "You're never ready, just less unprepared."
    27. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great site! I sucked on the test!
      Sort of a shame; I ususally wait until I hear their name before making a guess.

    28. Re:Jenna Jameson by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      No, lap dance...

    29. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      and im gussing your wernt able to fit the whole description?

    30. Re:Jenna Jameson by giminy · · Score: 1

      From her website:

      Because I'm EXTREMELY shy, I don't feature dance, and I avoid conventions and industry events whenever possible.

      'gotta love shy porn stars.

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      The Right Reverend K. Reid Wightman,
    31. Re:Jenna Jameson by Jondor · · Score: 2, Funny

      not enough silicon yet?

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      Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
    32. Re:Jenna Jameson by bluewee · · Score: 1

      Have you seen Monica Lewenski?

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    33. Re:Jenna Jameson by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Why? You bettin that all of the three billion males ahead of you are going to suddenly die off?"

      Phase1) Weapons of mass destruction.
      Phase2) ???
      Phase3) Girlfriend!

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    34. Re:Jenna Jameson by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      "'gotta love shy porn stars."

      While I realise you're joking, thats actually not that uncommon due to the way the human mind works (or doesnt work for that matter). I've seen the shyest people be fine over online voice comm, and other such execptions. Personally, I'm incredably screwed when it comes to voice communication(mics or phones), to the point where I cant even say 'need backup' or 'bomb down' in counterstrike, yet I have no problem goin with them to CPL(think huge giant LAN tournament). The human mind is a confusing thing.

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    35. Re:Jenna Jameson by Lord+Kano · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT!!!!

      Why does this woman have to be a porno whore?!?!

      She's smart, REALLY SMART, hot, REALLY HOT, and Asian. ASIAN!!!!!

      She's almost the perfect woman.

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    36. Re:Jenna Jameson by Orion442 · · Score: 1, Funny

      If Ms. Carrera actually does frequent /., she should know I can make balloon animals with my tongue.

    37. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I want to bang her

    38. Re:Jenna Jameson by aled · · Score: 1

      Nice sig! but how many know the reference.

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      "I think this line is mostly filler"
    39. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, why do you have to be a judgmental, misogynist, white-man's-burden-fetishist prick?

      Trust me, it's no use grousing about her career choice. She'd hate you regardless of what you do for a living.

    40. Re:Jenna Jameson by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Nice sig! but how many know the reference.

      Umm, I'd guess greater than 99% of those reading.

      Not exactly a tough one...

    41. Re:Jenna Jameson by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I have microphone anxiety in FPS games.

      So much that I used some program that changes the way your voice sounds on the fly. Works well in CS, but I have not tried using it on anything that really taxes my machine. You can use it for prank phone calls, too. I just use it to make a minor change to make my voice very neutral sounding.

      Here is a link to the publisher. Depending on your location and moral character, there are full versions on most P2P networks. Of course, the full version allows much more tweaking.

    42. Re:Jenna Jameson by Jondor · · Score: 1

      Basicly everybody with some Monty Python knowlegge.. Starting with Python programmers. Then I think it's the same sketch as in which the Spam song belongs. So I think that on slashdot a nice majority should know where it comes from..:-)

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    43. Re:Jenna Jameson by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I don't know, why do you have to be a judgmental

      Human Nature.

      misogynist

      I don't hate women. I just don't respect ones who have sex for money.

      white-man's-burden-fetishist prick

      I'm not white. I'm sure that she doesn't mind men with an Asian fetish when she's making money off of it.

      Trust me, it's no use grousing about her career choice.

      It's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    44. Re:Jenna Jameson by caino59 · · Score: 1

      yea, asia is a big fan of [H]ard|OCP and Hypothermia

      Definately cool.

    45. Re:Jenna Jameson by aled · · Score: 1

      Okey. It's just in my country Flying Circus was available in VHS just this month. Yes we are third world, so what.
      Oh, I wasn't expecting...

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      "I think this line is mostly filler"
    46. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      She's almost the perfect woman.

      Yeah, except for the Asian part. But then again, most of them are p0rn0 wh0r3z. They RUV you RONG TIME!!!

    47. Re:Jenna Jameson by Eviscero · · Score: 1

      I bet we could find a bookmark to Jenna's site on HILLARY's PC. Matter-of-fact, I wouldnt doubt it if Jenna IS ON Hillary's desktop.

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      It's not what you know; It's what you can find out.
    48. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You go girl!

  2. RMS by Eric+Wayte · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd love to see RMS' desktop.

    1. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd be amazed if he has one. I'm pretty sure he's still using an old vt220 terminal, desperately trying to run HURD.

    2. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    3. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      image a good working desktop system.. nice, fast gui. This was a desktop before RMS was using it..

      then image a huge black hole which sucks more than you can possibly imagine.. call it emacs.

    4. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Emacs came before GUI's. The first version was written in TECO. On a TOPS-20 machine I believe.

    5. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't imagine he would object to opensourcing it.

    6. Re:RMS by lokedhs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you think it contains anything at all? Don't you think the defaults are to his liking already? :-)

    7. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      (2) And the buffer was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the file. And the spirit of Lisp moved upon the face of the keys.
      (3) And the user said, C-x C-f, and there was buffer.
      (4) And the user saw the buffer, that it was good: and I think we can let the humor end here.

    8. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      # cat .emacs
      cat: .emacs: No such file or directory
      # which emacs
      /usr/local/gnu/emacs
      # ls -l /usr/local/gnu/emacs
      lwrxrwx 1 root 18 May 6 2003 /usr/local/gnu/emacs -> /usr/local/ucb/vi

    9. Re:RMS by operagost · · Score: 1

      He hasn't gotten emacs running on GNU/Hurd yet.

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    10. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you'd like to desperately try Hurd you can desperately find it here

    12. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hm -- probably GNU Emacs on a Linux console. :)

      From the Sam Williams biography of RMS:

      I find Stallman sitting in a darkened room, tapping away on his gray laptop computer.

      [...]

      I take a look. The room is dimly lit, and the text appears as greenish-white letters on a black background, a reversal of the color scheme used by most desktop word-processing programs, so it takes my eyes a moment to adjust. When they do, I find myself reading Stallman's account of a recent meal at a Korean restaurant.

      [...]

      Stallman goes back to tapping away at his laptop. The laptop is gray and boxy, not like the sleek, modern laptops that seemed to be a programmer favorite at the recent LinuxWorld show. Above the keyboard rides a smaller, lighter keyboard, a testament to Stallman's aging hands. During the late 1980s, when Stallman was putting in 70- and 80-hour work weeks writing the first free software tools and programs for the GNU Project, the pain in Stallman's hands became so unbearable that he had to hire a typist. Today, Stallman relies on a keyboard whose keys require less pressure than a typical computer keyboard.

    13. Re:RMS by Master+Bait · · Score: 1
      I've always pictured him using emacs for everything. No X desktop anywhere.

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      --Tom Schulman
    14. Re:RMS by agwadude · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, according to this article, RMS rarely uses X. He uses mostly emacs on the console.

    15. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...hacking...

      Since when has RMS ever been a programmer?

    16. Re:RMS by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      ...for starts when he wrote Emacs, perhaps?

    17. Re:RMS by bfg9000 · · Score: 1

      Not that it matters, but I've run Gnu/Linux with the command prompt only, no X, and I was amazed that 5 or 6 hours of emacs later, my battery was still going strong! Apparently, the windowing and graphics is what drains your batteries so much... Off topic, but just a tidbit for you. If you don't *need* X, don't use it. Made me feel like a kickass hacker, anyway.

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    18. Re:RMS by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      Get an old Sun box. A SS5 should be enough. Or even a little IPX that you can get for free. They support a serial console, so you can unplug the framebuffer entirely and just use it like a classic UNIX box. I have a VT220 terminal for such purposes.

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    19. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I can confirm this. During a conversation, he wanted to look up an email. He pulled out his laptop from his bag, woke it up. It was already running Emacs in terminal mode. No X. In a few clicks had found what he was looking for. He put it back to sleep and back in its bag. All of this took just a few seconds.

    20. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RMS uses a GNU/Linux System (debian) and Emacs on a IBM thinkpad.

    21. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really must know, traditionally, RMS ran his software on a Sun workstation console in Emacs. Eventually, he had to stop hacking himself because of RSI. I don't know whether he has gotten better. Since Sun is being rather monopolistic and proprietary these days and since Sun workstations aren't a good deal anymore, he probably uses something else now.

      Why that warrants your kind of cynicism is beyond me. RMS's is clearly an expert programmer, and if he gets by with a single 80x40 window to achieve that output, you should admire that--it means that he has all the more in his head. Most programmers these days can have hundreds of lines of text open on their software and still don't know what the code is doing.

    22. Re:RMS by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      He uses a laptop. I didn't see what it was running, probably Emacs I should think.

    23. Re:RMS by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Actually, according to this article, RMS rarely uses X. He uses mostly emacs on the console.
      Considering the enormous fuss when the emacs developer of the time added in X windows support (which would not have helped the hurd at all was the argument) and the resulting fork of emacs, I'm not surprised at all.
  3. Darl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No contest

  4. Photoshop? by illinisnare · · Score: 1

    Who wants to start photoshopping this immediately?

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    1. Re:Photoshop? by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 1

      Just like Heavy metal is redundunt ?

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    2. Re:Photoshop? by scmason · · Score: 1

      That is funny. How about, who wants to get gimped? or I got ma a gimp under my bed.

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  5. Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by DeathPenguin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right here :)

    1. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's nothing. I was able to hack into his hotmail account.

    2. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by c4ffeine · · Score: 0

      The one that runs linux?

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    3. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer George Bush's

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    4. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by rspress · · Score: 1

      Now that is the funniest slashdot reply I have seen in a while.

      BTW..Bill Gates desktop is about the last one I would want to see.

    5. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey,
      how did you get into my email?
      Give it back!
      but can you first pls. explain how to change the AOL password? I couldn't figure it out -bill

    6. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by bgates873 · · Score: 1

      Note: this is an impostor. I am the real bgates873.

      Please do explain the AOL thing though.

    7. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by MoThugz · · Score: 1

      It's confirmed... MS will never ever get any serious court orders in the US.

      The email quota prooves it all... and "normal" users get what, 3, 5MBs?

    8. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Chuqmystr · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amazing! GW get's hotmail on this thing?

    9. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Kippesoep · · Score: 1

      There's something missing from that list. Where's the e-mails from Darl McBride? Or a big PayPal notice: "Receipt for your payment to darl@sco.com".

    10. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GWB's desktop! its here!

    11. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I heard Gates uses bash (Warning: Link is to an Angelfire site, but still mildly amusing)

  6. One Man by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl.

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    "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
    1. Re:One Man by Klowner · · Score: 5, Funny

      fifty bucks says he's got a wallpaper of naked sailors wearing tophats, pushing huge crates of treasure off their sinking ship.

      (note: this is pure speculation)

    2. Re:One Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoy your art very much. Keep being, ahn, creative like you've been... Thanks.

    3. Re:One Man by Klowner · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, nope, I don't think so...

      And I also think it was fairly obvious I was poking fun at Darl's sexual orientation, it'd take a total idiot to not realize that.. Oh wait, nevermind, I get it now..

    4. Re:One Man by kubrick · · Score: 2, Funny

      (note: this is pure speculation)

      No more so than any investment in SCO these days. :)

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    5. Re:One Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In general, I like the wallpapers you have done.

      I might like "flung plastic" more if it actually fit my desktop :)

      "Mookie" is kinda cool too.

      "Fast, Stable" is nice from a Naturistic standpoint. Would be better if you let the penguins "speak for themselves" without the linux reference.

      Okay.... I'm done commenting about stuff that I can't do myself.

    6. Re:One Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, most gay men are cool, and have good taste.

  7. Dubya by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm curious to see what Georgie Bush's computer's like, but it's a pretty strong bet that someone just gave him an Etch-a-Sketch to play with.

    1. Re:Dubya by yvesbe · · Score: 1

      Yup!!! Definitely.

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      my social life is pretty much in /dev/null
    2. Re:Dubya by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's probably cursing and swearing because this page is being displayed in the browser. (Look closer.)

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      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    3. Re:Dubya by BroncoInCalifornia · · Score: 1
      I am sure Dubya has an assistant to work the computer for him!

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    4. Re:Dubya by Moderator · · Score: 0

      Hysterical. I shit my pants laughing. No, really.

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    5. Re:Dubya by Dreadlord · · Score: 4, Funny

      don't know about his computer, but I know that his keyboard doesn't have a W key.

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    6. Re:Dubya by myowntrueself · · Score: 0

      And Bill Clinton has (had) an intern to, uh, work her *tongue* for him. Literaly!

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    7. Re:Dubya by diersing · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Its been reported (too lazy to provide a link) that W. doesn't use email. He doesn't trust it, course in his position I'd have reservations if he time for email.

    8. Re:Dubya by ZipR · · Score: 2, Funny

      This may be a good indication: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/view/10_large.shtml (it's a link to a quicktime file)

    9. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I will never understand why anti-Bush trolls like this get modded up on slashdot.

      blah blah blah

      HAHAHAHAHA MOD UP MOD UP HA HA HA HA

    10. Re:Dubya by mackman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, it's a toy laptop with farm animal buttons that makes sounds. "Which one do I use to trade stocks, the pig or the sheep?"

    11. Re:Dubya by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry: There's a $699 licensing fee for that technology.

    12. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's what dubya prefers
      http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?f ile=9144- 2.jpg&name=Kids+Icons

    13. Re:Dubya by harvardian · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not an Etch-A-Sketch, but you're close -- he uses a Mac.

    14. Re:Dubya by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1
    15. Re:Dubya by Performaman · · Score: 1

      http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blb ushhelp.htm

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    16. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he trusts it. The problem is that is showed a great deal about Reagan and Poppa did as well as used against Gates. So, no since having a trail.

    17. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ok, my calendar has no 7's...

    18. Re:Dubya by whiteknight31 · · Score: 1

      Straighten things out?? What has Bush straitgened out? All he has managed to do so far is loose 2.4 million jobs, invade 2 countries, kill 9,000 citizens in "colatoral damage", and limit the 1st, 4th, and 6th amanment.

    19. Re:Dubya by mikek2 · · Score: 1

      Something tells me Dubya is still trying to comprehend Pong.

    20. Re:Dubya by (eternal_software) · · Score: 1, Redundant

      You mean you haven't seen Bush's desktop?

      It's right here.

    21. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand your point. The parent pointed out something that Clinton could do that Dubya couldn't (i.e., anything requiring more than an IQ of 80), and you have pointed out that Clinton had to get somebody else to suck his dick because we wasn't able to do it himself. Very few of us guys are able to do this ourselves, but most of us can tie our own shoes, with the exception of the borderline retards like George W. Bush.

    22. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Bush/Cheney in 2004, then Cheney/Bush in 2008 and 2012.

    23. Re:Dubya by tsaler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pardon me for not trying to be funny, but George W. Bush doesn't use a computer unless he absolutely has to. He's said this before. He also doesn't watch television unless it's sports, he doesn't like to use the telephone, he doesn't use cell-phones, and so on.

      All of this should be no surprise for someone who doesn't even read the news himself, and has his advisors act as a "news filter" for him so he only hears and learns about what he wants to hear and learn about, or what his advisors want him to hear or learn about.

      You can be pro-Bush or anti-Bush, but that's hardcore ignorance, especially for a president. I don't think there's much of anything funny about it.

    24. Re:Dubya by Durandal64 · · Score: 1

      It's OS 9. He doesn't count as a Mac user as of Jobs' declaration that the transition is over.

    25. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah clinton did do a shitty job.

    26. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see you get your masters from harvard. Bush is probably smarter than all the /. posters rolled up into one. I know he at least finished higher in his class than Slick willy.

      join SADD

      Slashdot'ers
      Are
      Dumb
      Democrats

    27. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hardcore ignorance? I'd much rather President Bush be working hard than surfing the news sites, putting in work that could be hired out to trusted advisors.

    28. Re:Dubya by k_stamour · · Score: 1

      Move on has that all wrong..... He would never use an apple.....Too lefty......

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    29. Re:Dubya by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 1

      When Clinton lied, no one died.

    30. Re:Dubya by harvardian · · Score: 4, Informative

      The missing W key story is one of the best debunked lies of this administration. Which is an impressive feat.

      Check this story out. Yes, the place was a mess, but the General Services Administration determined that "The condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

      If you read the story, you'll also see that the GAO and the GSA have both said that there is no documented evidence of vandalism.

      But then again, who needs documentation when your support base never looks any further than innuendo?

    31. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt there's much to his desktop. As you may recall, when Bush took office, he mandated that business not be conducted via email, etc. While his father loves email and the internet, he doesn't want another Clinton type situation - of his own.

    32. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that I particularly care for W, but there were some US citizens killed in Waco and Ruby Ridge... And lets not forget the cruise missile attack on the Chinese embassy... oops! I doubt anyone could hold that job and end up with no blood on their hands at the end of their term.

    33. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can! This is a picture of George Bush talking on the telephone, with a laptop in the background, displaying the Goatse man. The link is on a mirror of goatse. You probably will be offended by this picture if gaping anuses (ani?) typically offend you. http://www.goat.cx/contrib/bush.jpg

    34. Re:Dubya by RobKow · · Score: 1

      Sorry buddy, but Billy Bob Clinton wasn't too shabby academically, even if he did like getting hummers from ugly fat chicks in the oval office.

    35. Re:Dubya by strike2867 · · Score: 1

      I would rather Bush get caught surfing porn. And then confess in front off Congress that the secretary wouldnt sleep with him.

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    36. Re:Dubya by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      As opposed to Bush, who ensures his buddies' continued profits by giving tax breaks to people who buy Hummers. Clinton may have raised the temperature in the Oval Office, but Bush is raising the temperature of the entire planet.

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    37. Re:Dubya by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why?

      Wanting to fuck your secretary is a perfectly rational human desire, wanting to murder thousands of people to please your oil industry sponsors is not.

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    38. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a pill, dude.

    39. Re:Dubya by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      my gawd, someone actually went out of their way to make text (regular text, not links, or anything) change from black to red on mouseover!!!???

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    40. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, bub, plenty of Slashdotters have undergrad and graduate degrees from Ivy League and comparable schools (Harvard here). Bush went to HBS, which isn't saying much when your father is the Director of the CIA and very well connected politically and in the business world.

    41. Re:Dubya by CyberDave · · Score: 1

      What? Even though Al Gore is on Apple's Board of Directors?

      Oh, the irony. I think

      CyberDave

    42. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make Bush look like a fucking genius. Learn how to spell.

    43. Re:Dubya by jub · · Score: 1

      yeah... just like Rush Limbaugh... or James Lileks... just a couple more lefty Mac lovers.

    44. Re:Dubya by kelnos · · Score: 1

      hmm, my first question when i read the article blurb was... "yeah, right, you want us to believe dubya knows how to use a computer?" ^_~

      it's just humor folks, put down those flame throwers...

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    45. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He told a reporter once that he doesn't use email anymore, not because he doesn't trust it, but because he can use videoconferencing any time and any place he wants. He used to email his daughters all the time when he was governor, but as president he and the family have secure videophones.

    46. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words: Mogadishu, Somalia

    47. Re:Dubya by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      W was a constant user of email, up until he got into the whitehouse. He stopped because the federal records act would make his private mail public.

    48. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes 5 seconds with CSS.

    49. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...borderline retards like George W. Bush.

      Sounds like you and George W. Bush have something in common.

    50. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because someone doesn't watch TV they're an idoit? That's a new one.

    51. Re:Dubya by klang · · Score: 1

      The first will get you thrown out of politics, the other will get you elected..

      Strange world, eh?

    52. Re:Dubya by sql*kitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can be pro-Bush or anti-Bush, but that's hardcore ignorance, especially for a president. I don't think there's much of anything funny about it.

      Oh please. He has a country to run, possibly the most complex organization that ever existed. Keeping up with the news himself is a collossally bad use of his time - he has a staff to provide summaries, and he makes decisions based on those summaries. It's the same with CEOs, they are responsible for the company, but do they sign off every purchase for paperclips themselves? Do you think a General worries about the state of the paint on each and every tank? No, at the top, the job is to concentrate on the "big picture", to set policy and to delegate as much as possible.

    53. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      every executive is in the same shoes as far as GWB is when it comes to getting news. They have a bunch of people below them who gather and filter the data as needed for their review.

      Think about the information a Fortune-500-level executive receives. The executive's executive secretary reads his e-mail, and sends most of his e-mail from his account. The executive rarely looks at it directly. The executive probably has a few key managers that report on industry, market and political trends, as well as summaries of the status of the corporation's financial affairs and production information. If it's a research-based company, like a Pharma, the executive probably gets a few reports on research activities.

      If the executive wants more detailed information, it is probably going to be of the form, "Jim? Yes, i saw the report. Now get me more details/I want to speak to that asshat/What would you have me tell the investors next week?" from someone under him.

      I actually do not see it as hardcore ignorance, but wise time-management on his part.

      The problem with GWB's style, of course, is that while he nominally makes the decisions, he seems to be surrounded by a bunch of people who realize that they just need to provide him only with the information he needs to make the decisions they want or need.

      An interesting analysis over the book by Bush's former commerce secretary Rubin was oddly enough had on ESPN Radio Sat. morning. It wasn't that Rubin was some sort of disloyal dweeb who did not fit in well with the rest of the team and had an axe to grind, but that from his past experiences as a CEO, his goal was to make sure that the best ideas won, on their own merit, not on which ideas survived office politics and were presented to him, yet that is how GWB's cabinet seems to go about its business.

      I'm sorry, but the GWB fan club (read: most of "conservative" talking heads) is about as dysfunctional and self-delusional as Michael Jackson's fan club.

    54. Re:Dubya by Analogy+Man · · Score: 1

      The frightening part is the degree he insulates himself from dissenting thought. If he had some idea that we could get unlimited hydro-electric power by legistlating rivers flow up hill in every other state they would haul some "expert" in from the army corp of engineers that would tell him they could do in it in 6 months for $10 billion. Someone bold enough to tell him this is ridiculous would be closed minded, an extremist environmentalist or my favorite "devisive". My concern as a citizen is not with style BELIEVE ME!

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    55. Re:Dubya by will_die · · Score: 1

      If you want to see the newpaper he reads go to early bird.

    56. Re:Dubya by Sinterklaas · · Score: 1

      Pardon me for not trying to be funny, but George W. Bush doesn't use a computer unless he absolutely has to.

      I'd hope the president doesn't waste his time playing games or hacking the kernel. A president that uses a computer is already way ahead of most politicians. Besides, I think that most non-geeks only use a computer when they have to.

      He also doesn't watch television unless it's sports

      I can't blame him. Much rather read the newspaper myself.

      He doesn't like to use the telephone, he doesn't use cell-phones, and so on.

      Nor do I. I like to think about things before I respond and not to be interrupted in the middle of my work. Does that make me a luddite?

      All of this should be no surprise for someone who doesn't even read the news himself, and has his advisors act as a "news filter" for him so he only hears and learns about what he wants to hear and learn about, or what his advisors want him to hear or learn about.

      I think that this is a problem for any president. There are so many decisions to be made about a multitude of topics, that no single man can fully understand let alone research them. While I know quite a bit about computers and some other topics, I'm fairly ignorant on quite a few other issues. I'm sure the same goes for you.

      Ideally, the president should surround himself with experts, who can help him with the topics he's ignorant about. A good example is Howard Dean, who has Lessig as an advisor. Dean may be totally ignorant about copyrights, but if he listens to Lessig, that doesn't matter to me at all. In the end, it's about the decisions that get made.

    57. Re:Dubya by smchris · · Score: 1

      I actually do not see it as hardcore ignorance, but wise time-management on his part.

      The problem with GWB's style, of course, is that while he nominally makes the decisions, he seems to be surrounded by a bunch of people who realize that they just need to provide him only with the information he needs to make the decisions they want or need.


      That's pretty much how it always works and why it really is a form of ignorance. The social psychology of "group think" administration was a big thing after Vietnam. The question with W and Iraq is whether these people could have conceivably been _that_ maladaptively self-deluded -- or whether they were just lying. Neither prospect should be particularly comforting to anyone.

    58. Re:Dubya by pointbeing · · Score: 1

      I happen to know that our President is the reason for the extended support for Microsoft Bob.

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    59. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If a decision-maker relies entirely on his staff to stay informed, what function does he really serve? The staff can frame news, issues, and questions in ways that guarantee particular outcomes from the decision-maker. That puts the staff, not the decision-maker, in charge. When a person knows only what you're telling him, he's awfully easy to manipulate - child-like, really. The decision-maker doesn't have to sign off on every paper-clip purchase, but he should at least be trying to expose himself to new perspectives and interpretations of news and issues.

      And yes, as you point out, a disturbing amount of the corporate world works in this insulate-the-CEO way. That doesn't make it a good idea.

    60. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      doesn't use a computer unless he absolutely has to

      Which means his experience on tech issues is limited to what people tell him. Though this isn't so bad, the president shouldn't even be involved with tech issues. Although, I suppose this is true for a lot of politicians, even the ones who should be more informed.

      doesn't watch television unless it's sports

      doesn't even read the news himself

      has his advisors act as a "news filter" for him

      Lack of independantly gathered information means his advisers can treat him like a puppet. Who here honestly believes G.W. is getting accurate and unbiased information from the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld? Especially with subjects he doesn't know anything about himself (like economy) it's VERY easy to get a hopelessly biased viewpoint.

      doesn't like to use the telephone

      He doesn't like to travel abroad either. His lack of social networking skills is ok if he were still some bigshot in the oil business (some might claim he still is), but for a president this is unacceptable. A president needs to be in constant dialogue with the other world leaders. It's been made painfully obvious not only is shielded by his advisers from finding out more about how the world works, but just plain isn't interested in reality.

    61. Re:Dubya by smchris · · Score: 1

      "It's a good thing he surrounds himself with talented advisors now [!?! -me], because he struggled in Political Science 13b (71), Sociology 55a (70) and Economics 10 (71 in the fall and 72 in the spring). The transcript puts him in the 21st percentile of his class for freshman year."

      http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=263 6

      Fer sure. Got us a dang intellectual in the Oval Office now! Not one of them dumb types like the Clintons what ruined everything good, decent, and holy in this here country. (and still are!)

      Well, 21% isn't quite a "D" on a normal curve.

      A Peterson's "Best Buy" here but I've worked salaried at an Ivy. Does that count? But the point, of course, is that, yes, the Admissions Office even at an Ivy would look very favorably at the son from Phillips Academy of a millionaire, CIA Director alum. Can you count the silver spoon checklist items? And, very likely, even as a student they strove to make him feel very much at home with visions of alumni donations to come.

    62. Re:Dubya by sageman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well Bush isn't really that smart at all, there's little to comment on that. But, hey, he's a pretty good orator (until he mispronounces something, which is hilarious) and that's all that really matters. He's just a figurehead, and really doesn't have much to do with the way the country is run and anyone whom says otherwise is giving him much too much credit. Still, even with his lack of intellect, I think we're much better off with his people than with Gore's (but I'm pretty much a Republican, so I'm kind of bias ^_^), which would've had us sit back on our heels and do nothing productive at all (just like the 8-year span of Clinton's years). And I'll probally vote for his people this upcoming election, but we'll see.

      And all these jokes are funny. Come on. Laugh already, it's good for one.

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    63. Re:Dubya by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      the people in waco would've died anyways. they were blindly following some jackass who proclaimed that he was jesus christ and they believed him. how stupid can you be? i'm jesus, i need to sleep with all the women, including the little girls. right... makes a lot of sense. if they didn't believe the guy in the first place, they wouldn't have died and david koresh would've just been some stupid jackass calling himself jesus and becoming the laughing stock of the country.

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    64. Re:Dubya by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 1

      I cannot believe you equate reading the newspaper with a CEO signing off on paperclips. Though there is no good reason for a CEO to sign off purchases for paperclips, there is every reason that our President should read the newspaper every single day -- better yet, several newspapers... better still, several from the U.S. and several from Europe.

      Just by looking at his policies you can tell that Bush is out of touch on many issues - this is probably a huge reason why. Also, as another poster has said, this vests a lot of power in the one or two people that summarize the news for him. What makes it truly horrifying is that Bush seems to take pride in his choice to not read newspapers.

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    65. Re:Dubya by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1
      there is every reason that our President should read the newspaper every single day -- better yet, several newspapers...

      That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while.

      • Fact: the vast majority of articles in American newspapers come from the wire services.
      • Fact: the White House has access to the same feeds as the newspapers.
      • Fact: it'd be stupid to buy, sort through, and summarize several newspapers with 95% overlapping content when he can get the same stuff without leaving the White House.

      Honestly, people. We're talking about the White House, for Pete's sake, not Joe's Tavern. Do you really think that they don't pay people to keep track of important events being reported as they happen?

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    66. Re:Dubya by theghost · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between looking at the big picture and being willfully ignorant. The pride he takes in being sheltered and out of touch is just as scary as the rose-colored pictures his advisors provide.

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    67. Re:Dubya by Scaba · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be confusing GWB with someone who was actually in the military.

    68. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't get me wrong, Koresh's followers were morons. My problem is that the situation didn't need to happen the way it did. More insane than that was the Ruby Ridge situation. Now, I realize that Clinton didn't go up to Idaho and shoot anyone personally, but his administration was responsible. Randy Weaver isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, but he didn't deserve to have his wife shot in the head while holding their baby. The whole system has gone sort of haywire and needs serious reform across the board. Blaming the guy at the top is only good for election year rhetoric and TV "News" soundbites. I can't pretend that I have the answers, but it just isn't as simple as which president we have.

    69. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because politicians are out there working 24/7 for the public good! Come on, they may be busy, but they're still human. They're going to fit some amount of leasure time in there no matter what.

    70. Re:Dubya by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      The staff can frame news, issues, and questions in ways that guarantee particular outcomes from the decision-maker. That puts the staff, not the decision-maker, in charge

      Well, assuming that all the staff agree. Bush gets opposite viewpoints from say Powell and Rumsfeld, then makes his decision. It's not like all the President's staff are in collusion, they argue with each other quite publicly.

    71. Re:Dubya by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      well, yes - obviously

      my point is not that it took some herculean effort to do this, but that someone would want to do this at all

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    72. Re:Dubya by sckeener · · Score: 1

      He's also taken the most vacations since his daddy. I think he can spare some time to watch the news or visit someone who is unemployeed.

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    73. Re:Dubya by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      is every reason that our President should read the newspaper every single day -- better yet, several newspapers... better still, several from the U.S. and several from Europe.

      Umm, dude, if we're talking broadsheets like The Times (I mean the real Times, of London, not the NYT wannabes), and we're talking several papers, then the President would be doing pretty much nothing all day but read newspapers!

    74. Re:Dubya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you are somewhat right on the "raw news" side. But what about opinion articles, editorials, different wording and spin of the same news by different papers/news agencies/countries?

      If Bush was reading BBC or any other European news media, he would be getting a whole different pictures.

      Two right wing neo-con news summarizers are way to powerful, and skew the whole picture for the president.

      Whether it is the Middle East situation, the anti war movement, whatever ...

      The guy is out of touch, or worse yet, knows it and ignores it.

    75. Re:Dubya by WolfMooch · · Score: 1

      Everyone talks about the paper? Exactly which paper are we referring to? All we need in this world is to have our president reading the USA today.

    76. Re:Dubya by kisak · · Score: 1
      Oh please. He has a country to run, possibly the most complex organization that ever existed. Keeping up with the news himself is a collossally bad use of his time -

      So, do you think Bush kept up-to-date with the news before he got this complex job that needs overview and insight about the world affairs? The picture Bush himself paints in interviews (with pride it seems) is a guy who has his whole life only found time for sports on the TV or second rate movies (Chuck Norris) while newspapers are left unread. Or do you think generals become generals because they start as young lieutenent not worrying about any details.

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    77. Re:Dubya by plugger · · Score: 1

      Those who love their work tend to be better at their job than those who just do the 9-5 and forget about it later. I would expect any politician to have a general interest in current events, including reading the news in their spare time.

    78. Re:Dubya by dwaggie · · Score: 1

      Any good manager will tell you that you do not trust solely the word of just your subordinates. Running the country practically does itself. The processes have been in place for over a hundred years now, and the newer processes are just adaptations of older ones. The president does not run the country, he tries to steer it to his vision. And, I'm sorry, part of his vision should also be knowing what goes on with the American people as a whole. Journalism is not an objective view, but a smart man can read through a few sources and figure out what the hell is going on. And having aides read whatever they choose will colour the data that he has to work with. Any good leader knows his people, and he's outright telling us that he doesn't care. His people have to tell him what he should care about, he doesn't read through a few things and decide himself, and have his aides research different aspects of anything, from what I've heard/read/watched.

      The President doesn't run the country, the people under him do. George W Bush doesn't run down to the mail room and tell anyone that they're sorting the mail incorrectly, and it's fallacy to think otherwise. What he does try to do is change the way it does run, and for that he would need to know how it is running now.

    79. Re:Dubya by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 1

      and we're talking several papers, then the President would be doing pretty much nothing all day but read newspapers!

      Perhaps I came across as a bit overzealous, but honestly it does not take that long to read the more substantive articles and opeds from a given news source. I certainly do not expect Mr. Bush to sit down and read 8 newspapers start to finish every morning - but yes, I think it would do him a world of good to read selections from varied news sources. Perhaps he could better guage the feelings of the French by reading Le Monde, rather than renaming french fries, is all I'm saying.

      And for someone that doesn't have time to read newspapers, Mr. Bush sure takes a lot of vacations...

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    80. Re:Dubya by Tony-A · · Score: 1

      insulates himself from dissenting thought

      Dangerous. Very dangerous.

    81. Re:Dubya by TheWickedKingJeremy · · Score: 1

      Honestly, people. We're talking about the White House, for Pete's sake, not Joe's Tavern. Do you really think that they don't pay people to keep track of important events being reported as they happen?

      I think they pay people to be on top of certain issues, yes. I also think they disregard other issues almost entirely - issues that are much more important to people in other places, and receive a lot more news coverage there. Only good can come of receiving a diverse selection of news and opinions on a given subject.

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    82. Re:Dubya by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      I consider that the height of arrogance. You're telling me that instead of reading internal intelligence reports, the President should read what a bunch of ignorant jerk-offs at the New York Times think? Get real.

    83. Re:Dubya by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

      I think we're much better off with his people than with Gore's (but I'm pretty much a Republican, so I'm kind of bias ^_^), which would've had us sit back on our heels and do nothing productive at all (just like the 8-year span of Clinton's years)

      Clinton did nothing productive? You mean he didn't pay off $360 billion of the national debt between 1998-2000? He didn't lead the way to dismantling over 1700 nuclear warheads from the former soviet union? And after falling for years before his term, the mediam family income didn't increase by over $6000 (after adjusting for inflation) since he entered office in 1993? Not to forget African American family income rose even more, over $7000 (again after adjusting for inflation). He didn't enact the 1994 Crime Bill for funding over 100,000 community police officers?

      Well he did.

    84. Re:Dubya by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      Bush himself paints in interviews (with pride it seems) is a guy who has his whole life only found time for sports

      Well, duh, of course he does. That's 'cos he's after the votes of people who're like that! Clinton chased the votes of East and West coast Liberals, Bush chases the votes of Midwest Conservatives. If you can't see a facade for what it is, maybe you're the one who can't keep up...

    85. Re:Dubya by rif42 · · Score: 1

      Bush gets opposite viewpoints from say Powell and Rumsfeld, then makes his decision.

      Oh come on, Powell and Rumsfeld are not opposite viewpoints of Bush. They are just part of a narrowminded administration.

      It's not like all the President's staff are in collusion

      Actually it looks like that. Take Paul O'Neill the former Treasury Secretary, he was disagreeing with Bush policy on tax cuts. He got fired.

    86. Re:Dubya by sageman · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to comment on this because I would seriously be accused of trolling if I spoke my mind on this, and probally get yelled at from a bunch of people. So, I'll just say: "Could have been a lot worse though! Imagine Ross Perot as president!"

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    87. Re:Dubya by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

      Fine I'll troll. Your response is typical of a republican response. I give specific examples of positive accomplishments when said there were none. They you come back saying, "Yeah, could have been worse, imagine if such and such happened...". But "such and such" didn't happen. What did happen were positives. Your response is straight out of Bush Jr.'s book. Always shifting the focus to something else, in this case Perot. Perot was a non issue in this conversation, your bringing him is a cheap distraction.

      Where are the jobs, Bush? "Oh I caught Saddam."

      bleh. forgive me, but sidestepping the issue annoys the hell out of me.

    88. Re:Dubya by sageman · · Score: 1

      "Where are the jobs, Bush? 'Oh I caught Saddam.'"

      Of course, the typical democrats response (even if you are not a democrat). To blame Bush for the lost of jobs is ridiculous. The reason the states is currently in an economic pit has nothing to do with Bush. It is a matter of coincidence that with Bush in office a couple of fundamentalist jihad-er's decided to crash a couple of planes into some rather important buildings. The airplane industry suffered a big blow there and had to step up security, which in turn costs more. Also, earlier a bit, the IT companies and web companies that interest was vested in started drying up, not due to Bush but due to the internet not being a very good commercial enterprise (unlike television and radio). Of course, we also had companies screwing around with the stocks and such too, right at this time, which just multiplies the whole problem. These are uncontrollable and all developed their basis during Clinton's years. That is when these started, when the companies where screwing everybody out of money, when the internet economy sprouted too fast and without a real means of making money and as the terrorists plotted to unleash destruction on us. The lack of doing anything to help/prevent this massive economic downfall is what I reference when I say that Clinton "did pretty-much nothing". Maybe he couldn't do anything but this still does NOT make the economic downward spiral the fault of Bush. I could care less that the median family income went up or that a group of people did better than previous. These could just be coincidence with Clinton in office, even, to some exent, but it is neglible now because of the fix we're in which could have been prevented to an extent.

      And as far as catching Saddam: about freaking time! This is an issue that Clinton should have followed up Daddy Bush and did a LONG time ago. For those that bring up how we found no weapons of mass destruction I exclaim we did: Saddam, his family, and his regime. Plus, war is good for the economy (always has been), so why blame Bush for trying to improve the economy?

      So, really, what, in the long run, did Clinton do, given that right after his run of years we began to fall into an economic pit? These "postives" have little effect at all now.

      Forgive me, but sidestepping the issue annoys the hell out of me.

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  8. Gates by mse61 · · Score: 1

    Read the subject.

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    1. Re:Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe read the f'ing article?

  9. George Bush by herrvinny · · Score: 3, Funny

    George Bush's Desktop:

    None. You can't put a desktop on a Etch-A-Sketch.

    1. Re:George Bush by VXneko · · Score: 0

      .... and Osama's Desktop.

    2. Re:George Bush by myowntrueself · · Score: 1, Troll

      "They have lots of people doing "stuff" for them."

      Yeah like in George Pube^H^H^H^HBush's case, sending other peoples children to *die* for his sense of self esteem?

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    3. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goddammit that wasn't funny, you sick bastard. +5 for retardity!

    4. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off and die.

    5. Re:George Bush by jmtpi · · Score: 1
      I seriously doubt that George Bush -has- a desktop.


      I wonder if this is true. The photos of the Oval Office certainly never show a computer sitting on the President's desk. I wonder whether somewhere else in the White House (the living quarters?) there is a PC that the President uses. Or at least you would think he would have one back at his ranch in Texas.

      I wonder if the guys who haven't been in government very long are more likely to use a PC regularly. (For instance, Cheney has very recently been in the private sector, where even a CEO has a laptop.)

      Another thought: Certainly Al Gore must have used a PC on a regular basis. He, after all, was famous for being a champion of the Internet.
    6. Re:George Bush by utahjazz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All kidding aside, why would George Bush need a personal computer? What's he going to do, write up the new federal budget in Excel? Make a PowerPoint about why we should go to Mars? Type up the State of the Union address in Word? Schedule cabinet meetings in Outlook? Read emails sent to whitehouse.gov?

      I'm sure the closest he comes to working with a computer is reading a few select emails that someone printed out for him.

    7. Re:George Bush by BigGerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually when he was in Texas, he was pretty active email user. But his lawyers suggested he stopped using email after moving to WH.

    8. Re:George Bush by welshsocialist · · Score: 2, Informative

      This question is moot. In April 2001, Bush gave up email to protect his privacy. See CNN's Report.

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    9. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, i believe that was indeed his message to his troops, the cunt.

    10. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may not come as a surprise that Bush was on AOL.

    11. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pr0n!

    12. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Entertainment?

    13. Re:George Bush by utahjazz · · Score: 1

      Me too!

    14. Re:George Bush by AvengerXP · · Score: 1

      GW Bush does not have the prerequisite intelligence to fire up such a sofisticated device.

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    15. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations on repeating an earlier comment that said nearly the exact same thing.

    16. Re:George Bush by srinivas_rc · · Score: 1

      and saddam's too ?

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    17. Re:George Bush by ljavelin · · Score: 1

      Please realize that when I started writing this comment, there were 10 or so replies, and mine wasn't redundant.

      Just because at the time I hit "submit" there was an insightful comment similar to my informative comment doesn't make your useless AC note anything other than "redundant troll".

      What do you want - a locking system that permits only one post at a time? That's stupid.

    18. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And YOU possess neither the cranial capacity, nor the opposable digits to properly spell the word sophisticated.

    19. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please remember that the word Sophisticated(tm) is a term trademarked by SCO. Such as "SCO Unix: A More Sophisticated Linux". Or "SCO - lawsuits are our business, insanely sophisticated money laundring is our strategy"

      Therefore, the previous poster's attempt to circumvent trademark rights.

    20. Re:George Bush by xlv · · Score: 1
      All kidding aside, why would George Bush need a personal computer?


      And assuming he doesn't have one, if you're planning on getting him one (not that he cannot afford it), buy him a subscription to a newspaper. I don't even care which one, but at least somebody should try to get him to read one paper...

    21. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about play games? When he was governor of Texas he was known to play Playstation on his breaks. Maybe he plays Call of Duty online.

    22. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read emails sent to whitehouse.gov?

      As opposed to Clinton who read email from whitehouse.com

    23. Re:George Bush by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 3, Funny


      Type up the State of the Union address in Word?

      Why is that hard to believe? You think that there is some special "For Presidential Addresses"-type Word Processor? I wouldn't be surprised if he used Word, Adobe Acrobat, and Excel a lot. Presuming he does any of his own content creation, and doesn't simply use a paper and pencil.

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    24. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      All kidding aside, why would George Bush need a personal computer?
      He likes to get on AOL and search for "pitchers of 'splosions".
    25. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's not that he won't use Word, but he won't be the one writing it. it's all scripted by someone else.

    26. Re:George Bush by Drakonian · · Score: 4, Funny
      You think that there is some special "For Presidential Addresses"-type Word Processor?

      Yes, it's called a speechwriter.

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    27. Re:George Bush by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      You think that there is some special "For Presidential Addresses"-type Word Processor?

      You think he wrote the state of the union address himself?

      --Jeremy

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    28. Re:George Bush by Wesley+Willis,+RIP · · Score: 1

      You mean AWOL, right?

    29. Re:George Bush by AvengerXP · · Score: 1

      This was a test of the emergency broadcast system and i won big time, thanks for the best 20$ ever. Man you guys are so predictable. Please mod me troll i deserve it.

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    30. Re:George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      yuo get teh win!!!11

      Props to all my dead neocon homiez!

    31. Re:George Bush by Farce+Pest · · Score: 1

      WH could mean "White House", but it could also mean "Waffle House"

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    32. Re:George Bush by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      "Type up the State of the Union address in Word?"

      Hi, it looks like you're typing a "State Of The Union Address", would you like help???

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    33. Re:George Bush by JoeBaldwin · · Score: 1

      It looks like you're writing a State of the Union address. Would you like Word to help you?

      * Yes
      * No
      * I can't read or write

      (click)

    34. Re:George Bush by jaciii · · Score: 1

      To play Command and Conquer. Oops!, he does that with real army's.

  10. Not a lie by calmdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gates uses MacOS, Torvalds uses Windows, and Jobs uses Linux. They're a bunch of swingaas babyyy!

    1. Re:Not a lie by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gates uses MacOS, Torvalds uses Windows, and Jobs uses Linux. They're a bunch of swingaas babyyy!

      Actually, I would make sense for them to have an almost-primary computer be the competing OS. This way they'd have to get used to it and see the good points as well as the bad.

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    2. Re:Not a lie by znode · · Score: 1

      Actually, I would make sense for them to have an almost-primary computer be the competing OS. This way they'd have to get used to it and see the good points as well as the bad.

      Yeah, but the problem with that is Torvalds aside, neither Jobs or Gates do much of the programming or designing.

    3. Re:Not a lie by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      Gates uses MacOS, Torvalds uses Windows, and Jobs uses Linux.

      Bush uses that mouse-y clicky thing with the interweb.

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    4. Re:Not a lie by placeclicker · · Score: 1

      What about Darl?

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    5. Re:Not a lie by Bandman · · Score: 1

      although I can't figure out what Linus would learn by using Windows or MacOS. He deals with stuff that's low level enough that all useful information (other than performance issues) are in docs and source code. I wouldn't envy the job of learning memory management by running Windows.

    6. Re:Not a lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OS/2

    7. Re:Not a lie by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      but they are both smart enough to organise their companies to do that for them,

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    8. Re:Not a lie by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      Linus Torvalds was on record years ago as saying that he thought Microsoft Powerpoint was a really nice program. I remember reading it in Linux Journal back when I subscribed, four or five years ago.

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    9. Re:Not a lie by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually I heard someone say they saw Jobs' office at Pixar and he had a Dell PC on his desk, but then I heard somebody else say that was true but it was running OpenStep, and he has since switched to Mac OS X.

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    10. Re:Not a lie by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      ...which is why Mac OS X has an option to hide file extensions, and I think it does so by default. Bleh.

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    11. Re:Not a lie by WillAdams · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Once David Pogue whined in his MacWorld column about Steve Jobs using a ThinkPad running Win95 right after Apple bought NeXT --- he was half right, it was a ThinkPad (He also had a Toshiba Tecra), but it ran (of course) OPENSTEP.

      Time was someone published the headers of a private e-mail from Steve Jobs' e-mail account at Pixar to show that it was from a machine running OPENSTEP.

      Interestingly, one of the things which kept him on OPENSTEP was Concurrence.app (a presentation program) --- which goes a long way to explaining the existence of Keynote, no?

      William

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    12. Re:Not a lie by Kallahar · · Score: 1

      stop hard coding your taglines, if we want to read your ads we'll turn on sig's

    13. Re:Not a lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is sig?

    14. Re:Not a lie by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      When Jobs first came back to Apple, he used a Dell laptop and a NeXt cube. I think the laptop might have been running NeXT instead of Windows.

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    15. Re:Not a lie by Bandman · · Score: 1

      touche

  11. Linus by Jonathan+the+Nerd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personally, I'd love to see which distro Linus uses (or whether he still rolls his own).

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    1. Re:Linus by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Personally, I'd love to see which distro Linus uses (or whether he still rolls his own).

      He used to use SuSe at home and Red Hat at work... at least in 1999 according to the Linux kernel mailing list. :-)

    2. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      RedHat and SuSE. You'd know if you'd read his book.

    3. Re:Linus by jawtheshark · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Actually, I think the people on slashdot would be more interested to know if he uses KDE or Gnome ;-)

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    4. Re:Linus by PirateMeep · · Score: 1

      (last I read in his book) SuSE at home Redhat at work.. but that was in his book.. a bit back.

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    5. Re:Linus by astrashe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It would be fun to know what distro Linus uses, but we're all better off not knowing.

      It almost reminds me a little bit of the furour surrounding the Pope and Mel Gibson's film. On one level, the Pope is a guy watching a movie, and he probably said something after he saw it. But on the other hand, it seems likely that he didn't want to make a public statement. There's a difference beteen the guy acting as the guy, and the guy acting in the context of his office.

      Linus almost certainly has his preferences and his opinions, like any other user. But in his capacity as the guy who holds his vague and unnamed office, as the spiritual leader of the linux movement, he chooses not to express a preference.

      For a guy who says he wants to stay out of politics, he understands linux politics pretty well. I think that has a lot to do with his success, and the OS's success.

    6. Re:Linus by be-fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He dual-boots SuSE/KDE and Windows on a Sony VAIO laptop.

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    7. Re:Linus by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1
      It would be fun to know what distro Linus uses,

      I would guess he uses several. I'm nowhere near the geek he is, and I use three different distros (all up and running within six feet of me as I type this (on an OS X system, and yes there's a Win box (off) nearby as well)). And that's just at home.

    8. Re:Linus by stor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I played a game of "Frozen Bubble" Against Linus at Linux.Conf.Au. on what I assumed was his laptop (but may not have been).

      It was an apparently vanilla Fedora Cora 1.

      Cheers
      Stor

      p.s. He beat me 4/5: came back from 1/4. Bastard! =)
      p.p.s. Who cares what distro he uses? As far as I'm concerned most of the differences between the distros are pretty academic.

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    9. Re:Linus by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      SuSE/KDE wouldn't surprise me. A great European distribution. But are you sure about the Windows part? Well, since he advocates "the best tool for the job", you just might be right.

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    10. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I modded you OFF topic jerk, I remember when you posted goatse, and now i get my revenge hahahaha

    11. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're trippin dude. he doesn't use a distro.

    12. Re:Linus by jawtheshark · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Uh? When did I post goatse? You must be mistaking me for someone else. Show your face, so that we can resolve this issue as adult men.

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    13. Re:Linus by Ann+Elk · · Score: 1
      It would be fun to know what distro Linus uses, but we're all better off not knowing.
      Why do you think he uses a distribution? Real men build their own software from scratch.
    14. Re:Linus by IANAAC · · Score: 1

      Redhat 4.2. (didn't he say that was his favorite at one time? :-))

    15. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Adult men? On Slashdot? Ha ha ha ha!

    16. Re:Linus by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 1

      I didn't know Linus was a Redhat n00b. ;-)

    17. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real men don't need a website to tell them how to install it either

    18. Re:Linus by be-fan · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure. This was the case at least as of a recent convention he attended. For a long time, he did not run Windows, because he said (paraphrasing) "anybody who knows me would know better than to send me MS Office documents" but he's become much more involved in the business world since then.

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    19. Re:Linus by Black+Mage+Balthazar · · Score: 1

      If you read his "autobiography" Just For Fun, I believe he says that he uses RedHat at the office (at least when he was at Transmeta) and SuSe at home.

    20. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why do linux's most noteworthy games get so much attention if they're so lame? I don't understand it.

      A few of linux's most AMAZING games (which are actually just rip offs of other games): "Frozen Bubble", "Tux Racer", "FreeCiv", "BZFlag", "Linux Breakout 2", "Chromium".

      That's the cream of the crop when it comes to FREE linux games (if you don't count "Enemy Territory"). Pathetic.

    21. Re:Linus by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      I would expect he has several machines with different distros like any well-funded geek might.

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    22. Re:Linus by LnxAddct · · Score: 3, Informative

      He uses RedHat and Suse. One at home and one at the office. His net worth in Red Hat stock is something like $20 million and Suse isn't quite as much but its up there. The founder of Suse is a god parent (perhaps some other relation but I think thats it) of one of his children, but that happened before Suse was Suse.He has good connections with all the distros but these are his two main ones, which makes sense considering one of these will most likely be the defacto standard in the business world one day.
      Regards,
      Steve

    23. Re:Linus by kubrick · · Score: 0, Troll

      It almost reminds me a little bit of the furour surrounding the Pope and Mel Gibson's film. On one level, the Pope is a guy watching a movie, and he probably said something after he saw it.

      Are you sure the Pope can comprehend anything these days? All he seems to do is drool like an idiot and stare into the middle distance.

      He's an evil man, and I for one will be celebrating his death.

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    24. Re:Linus by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Assuming default configs, at home KDE (SuSE), at work GNOME (RedHat). This is a bit outdated (2000), however.

    25. Re:Linus by astrashe · · Score: 1

      I think it's more complicated than that -- I heard a program on Ave Maria Catholic Radio about it (Al Kresta's show), where they tried to figure out what had happened.

      My impression (which could obviously be wrong) is that:

      A) The Pope saw the film, and liked it. I believe he made the comment that's been attributed to him. *But* -- I think he just spoke, privately, to someone else who was there. He just made a private comment -- he didn't issue a statement.

      B) Word about the quote got around. In general, people in the Church are very enthusiastic about the film. The producers were talking to people in the Vatican, and the quote got back to them. They were really pumped up to hear about it, and naturally, they talked about it. More to the point, they talked about it with journalists.

      C) News of all of this broke, and a lot of people criticized the Church for endorsing a film. There are consequences that can flow from that sort of thing that are hard to predict -- most obviously, it would probably strain Jewish/Catholic relations. That's when some of the people surrounding the Pope tried to clarify what happened.

      The official statement I read said that he saw it, but that it was the Pope's policy not to offer critical judgments of artistic works.

      http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?si d= 47798

      That's what I meant -- as a guy in a screening room, the Pope had an opinion. But as "the Pope", the Bishop of Rome, he didn't express an opinion, not officially. To do so might be seen as inconsistent with his role.

      For Linus to be flogging distros, or desktops, or whatever, would probably be inconsistent with his role.

      Maybe he has a home rolled system, and doesn't run a distro (although he probably spends a lot of time hassling with desktops if he does).

      But if he has a preference about distros or desktops, the linux community would probably be better off not knowing what it is. It would be much better to duke it out in other arenas.

    26. Re:Linus by fiftyfly · · Score: 2, Funny
      Personally, I'd love to see which distro Linus uses (or whether he still rolls his own).

      of course!

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    27. Re:Linus by 10Ghz · · Score: 1

      A while ago that was Red Hat at work, SuSE at home. And his desktop was KDE. And judging from the praise he has given to KDE recently, I assume he's still a KDE-user.

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    28. Re:Linus by 10Ghz · · Score: 1

      AFAIK: KDE. He has filed bug-reports to KDE, and in one discussion about the bug he mentioned that he uses KDE (that was back in KDE2-days). And he has praised KDE recently, so I would guess he still uses KDE.

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    29. Re:Linus by roalt · · Score: 2, Informative
      I played a game of "Frozen Bubble" Against Linus at Linux.Conf.Au. on what I assumed was his laptop (but may not have been).

      It was an apparently vanilla Fedora Cora 1.

      Linux uses different distributions just to be independent (IIRC he wrote that down in his book "Just for Fun"). He used SuSe at work and Red Hat at home (or the other way around).

    30. Re:Linus by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

      Real men post witty retorts without hiding their name.

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    31. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C) News of all of this broke, and a lot of people criticized the Church for endorsing a film. There are consequences that can flow from that sort of thing that are hard to predict -- most obviously, it would probably strain Jewish/Catholic relations. That's when some of the people surrounding the Pope tried to clarify what happened.

      What the fuck? Strain Jewish/Catholic relations? Why? I am sick of this hyper-sensitivity to the Jews. People are so afraid of being anti-semites these days. It's the new rightthink. It sickens me.

      The way I see it is: Either the film is accurate historically or it is not. If it isn't, then the Pope can say so -- "this movie doesn't capture the essence of the facts or the essence of the gospels, etc. etc.".

      If it is accurate, and moreover well done, he can say that too "This movie captures the passion every Christian should feel for those historic and miraculous events at the end of Christ's life", etc etc.

      How is that "Anti-Semitic"?

      It's not fscking secret that Christ lived in a Jewish context, and that he was murdered in a Jewish context. Big deal. If I make a movie about how the Germans murdered Jews, why don't people go an scream "Anti-Germanic"? Do you see the double-standard? The hipocrisy?

      Bah!

    32. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All he seems to do is drool like an idiot and stare into the middle distance.

      It's funny how with old guys you never know whether they're ogling catholic schoolgirls or are just plain demented.

    33. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trouble is that the gospels don't all agree with each other on key details, and some, like John, were clearly written with selling Christianity to the Romans in mind, with some fairly blatant jew-baiting in there to leave them with someone to throw to the lions.

      For an overview of Jewish problems with the gospel of John, read here. Even if you disagree (and the author is admittedly kind of hyperbolic and off-putting), it may open your eyes to the idea that it's not a political correctness issue, but a textual interpretation one: How do the makers of the film choose to render key events which are described multiple times in the New Testament in incompatible ways? What does this say about their views and agenda?

      When the Pope comments on such a work, public evaluation and criticism of his statements is most certainly valid.

    34. Re:Linus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your mother called you "themusicgod1"? Shit, I hope you disowned your family.

  12. RMS by Grumpendorfer · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The one thing I'd like to see is Richard Stallman's .emacs init file.

  13. RMS's desktop by Handyman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not curious anymore about what Richard Stallman's desktop looks like. I happened to be sitting behind him at the last FOSDEM conference, just before his presentation. Two observations about his desktop as I saw it that day.

    First of all, he doesn't use a GUI.

    Second, the desktop environment that he was using was not vi. :)

    1. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Second, the desktop environment that he was using was not vi.

      Pico! It must be pico!

      Am I right? :-]

      Oh.

    2. Re:RMS's desktop by maelstrom · · Score: 1

      If I saw RMS using anything but EMACS I would be very surprised.

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    3. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm not curious anymore about what Richard Stallman's desktop looks like. I happened to be sitting behind him....


      GROSS! How did you tolerate his B.O.??
    4. Re:RMS's desktop by jacoplane · · Score: 1

      gee ya think?

    5. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idiot, of course he uses the GNU version of pico, nano.

    6. Re:RMS's desktop by rekrutacja · · Score: 1

      Sorry about asking, but what kind of injuries? I didn't know something bad happened to him, and that worried me a little bit.

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    7. Re:RMS's desktop by zsau · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not vi?! He was using ed? Oh that poor guy!

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    8. Re:RMS's desktop by e_pluribus_funk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Repetitive stress injury to his right hand.

    9. Re:RMS's desktop by 10am-bedtime · · Score: 1

      i can relate.

      ratpoision, emacs, and rxvt is all i really need to have fun w/ computers.

      viva diversita! (ymmv, flames to /dev/null).

    10. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I didn't know something bad happened to him, and that worried me a little bit.

      Why, because it didn't finish him off? Yeah, that concerns me too.

    11. Re:RMS's desktop by XorNand · · Score: 1

      Given his rep, I think the problem would be more confined to just his middle digit.

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    12. Re:RMS's desktop by dberton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you have any idea what he uses to browse the web?

      I sometimes find myself using X just to be able to easily browse the web; all other tasks can be done from a terminal. I'm not a luddite, but there is something to be said for the simplicity of just using a 'primitive environment'.

    13. Re:RMS's desktop by daSilva · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've seen it, it's Emacs. He only uses X to play FreeCiv (really)

    14. Re:RMS's desktop by bonch · · Score: 1

      Yikes.

      Sorry, but from how you describe him, he sounds like an ancient, stubborn old UNIX hacker who is several decades behind in computer use paradigms. I think you can see this anti-usability undercurrent in most Linux projects. For God's sake, instead of getting people to type for him, he can't click a button?

    15. Re:RMS's desktop by Walterk · · Score: 5, Funny
      As a great man once said:

      "In years past, I knew of someone who used emacs as his login shell, the
      only thing he found wanting in emacs was a good text editor. So he ended
      up using vi."
    16. Re:RMS's desktop by Artifex · · Score: 1
      Given his rep, I think the problem would be more confined to just his middle digit.


      He could just wear a splint to keep it extended :) Someone could make some money selling these at the next SCO protest, if they gave him one, maybe.
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      Get off my launchpad!
    17. Re:RMS's desktop by Saeger · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      because of injuries, he's often had to get other people to type for him

      What, there's no open source speech recognition system he could use? (or maybe none yet compare to Dragon Naturally Speaking on windows).

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    18. Re:RMS's desktop by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      threre's a vi module for emacs

    19. Re:RMS's desktop by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      he can take a screenie with fbgrab, can't he?

    20. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No simple mechanism for a screenshot???

      Cameras don't work around him?

    21. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also uses LinuxBIOS.

    22. Re:RMS's desktop by phr1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      He's had tendinitis in his wrists for years (repetitive strain injury). More recently he fell and hurt his arm, but hopefully that's better by now.

    23. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's actually a halfway decent troll, made me chuckle.

    24. Re:RMS's desktop by Bandman · · Score: 1

      an ancient, stubborn old UNIX hacker who is several decades behind in computer use paradigms

      you say that like it's a bad thing?

    25. Re:RMS's desktop by vadim_t · · Score: 1

      Yikes. Talk about intolerant.

      I use KDE on a dual Athlon MP, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating the usability of the command line. In fact, while coding I will mostly do it using vim, screen, and less/links to read the documentation.

      If it wasn't for the difficulty with reading most websites in a text based web browser (Slashdot!), I would spend most of the time on the command line.

      Just the fact that GUIs exist doesn't make text mode programs completely obsolete. They're still better for some environments, especially those with limited bandwidth and memory. And they've been working just fine for years. Tend to have less bugs as well.

    26. Re:RMS's desktop by bonch · · Score: 1

      Where did I say that the command-line was obsolete? Talk about knee-jerk reaction.

    27. Re:RMS's desktop by swillden · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but from how you describe him, he sounds like an ancient, stubborn old UNIX hacker who is several decades behind in computer use paradigms.

      Those "modern" computer use paradigms were developed primarily to make computers easy to use for novices. Usability testing is pretty much always focused on users who don't know much. Does any of this sound like a good description of RMS? Why would he want to sacrifice his productivity just to be "modern"?

      If you've ever watched a real old-school hacker working with a command line and his choice of either EMACS or vi, you'll understand what I mean about sacrificing productivity... in the hands of a master who's got his environment just the way he likes it, a simple text mode interface is awesomely effective.

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    28. Re:RMS's desktop by taweili · · Score: 2, Interesting
      What, there's no open source speech recognition system he could use? (or maybe none yet compare to Dragon Naturally Speaking on windows).
      Typing for RMS can get one to go place. I remeber attending a talk by Guy Steele and he was hired to type for RMS back in the AI lab days while he was in high school. Since then, he was on committee to standardize LISP, C, C++ and now on steering Java language standard.
    29. Re:RMS's desktop by tmark · · Score: 1

      Nah, I bet he had it on his left hand. That's what he gets for the C-/M- key binding hell he put us through ! I bet the pinky-through-middle fingers on his left hand are absolutely shot !!

    30. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can use Emacs editing commands in Safari :) and most Cocoa-based apps.

    31. Re:RMS's desktop by Pegasus · · Score: 1

      In fact slashdot is completely readable in text mode if you enable 'lynx mode' in your preferences. It's so good that i'm using it all the time, even in gfx browsers.

    32. Re:RMS's desktop by tgv · · Score: 1
      As for his .emacs file, last time I looked, it wasn't empty, but contained a few lines to turn off the default disabling of novice-confusing commands like narrow-to-window

      Well, that explains emacs' defaults: they're his. The rest of us will have to do the customisation outside the code...

    33. Re:RMS's desktop by Brother52 · · Score: 1

      He doesn't use the web, by his own admission I read somewhere on his home page.

    34. Re:RMS's desktop by gartogg · · Score: 1

      Over the last couple weeks, I've found myself using lynx, just because xf86 takes SOOO long to load on my 486 laptop...

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    35. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elinks is pretty cool

      http://elinks.or.cz/

    36. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone asked him at a his lecture what distro he uses on his laptop.

      he uses Debian..

      or should i say GNU/Linux/Debian ;)

    37. Re:RMS's desktop by beforewisdom · · Score: 1
      I'm not curious anymore about what Richard Stallman's desktop looks like. I happened to be sitting behind him at the last FOSDEM conference, just before his presentation. Two observations about his desktop as I saw it that day. First of all, he doesn't use a GUI. Second, the desktop environment that he was using was not vi.
      I met him last year at a lecture he gave. I asked him what was running on his laptop and he told everyone "Debian"

      Some groupie who follows him around asked him if he was using the HURD kernel. RMS said that he did not as it did not do enough yet.

      Given that, I hope others are kinder the next time a story gets out about Linus Torvald's not using OS software becasue there isn't anything around that suits him.

      AND I hope Linus keeps moving toward a module kernel.

      Having to recompile the kernel to add hardware support is ridiculous.

      No offense.

      Steve

    38. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sorry, but from how you describe him, he sounds like an ancient, stubborn old UNIX hacker who is several decades behind in computer use paradigms. I think you can see this anti-usability undercurrent in most Linux projects. For God's sake, instead of getting people to type for him, he can't click a button?"

      You betray your ignorance. There are many instances in which keystrokes are indeed much faster, more usable, and more productive.

      As if you've been anywhere close to 1% of his productivity to the world.

    39. Re:RMS's desktop by phr1 · · Score: 1

      See one of my other posts, he doesn't browse the web much. He occasionally uses lynx, but for the most part if he wants to look at a url, he emails it to a daemon that retrieves the page text and emails it back to him. He doesn't seem very interested in random web surfing, i.e. using the web as an entertainment medium. He'll look at a specific URL if someone sends it to him and he has reason to think it will be interesting.

    40. Re:RMS's desktop by MrResistor · · Score: 1

      For God's sake, instead of getting people to type for him, he can't click a button?

      And that would help how?

      He has other people typing for him because he has RSI. Switching to a mouse-driven GUI is the opposite of what he needs.

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    41. Re:RMS's desktop by MrResistor · · Score: 1

      Even Dragon Naturally Speaking on Windows can't compare to a grad student volunteer, and from RMS's perspective the interface is pretty much the same. (Does Dragon require "training"? If so, that's another plus for the volunteer.)

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      Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
  14. Easy. by Freston+Youseff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Michael Jackson's desktop.

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    1. Re:Easy. by wed128 · · Score: 1

      ughh...i'm disturbed by that thought

    2. Re:Easy. by Foole · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm glad you didn't say lap top.

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    3. Re:Easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think there would be easier ways to see pictures of children.

    4. Re:Easy. by morganjharvey · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's well known that Michael Jackson uses a 10 year old laptop...

      <grin>

    5. Re:Easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How do you when it's bedtime at the neverland ranch?

      When the big hand touches the little hand.

    6. Re:Easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's well known that Michael Jackson uses a 10 year old laptop...


      with a small joystick/"rumble" feedback pack, but it's gotten bigger over the years... I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps trading in the current system every so often because of this. The only question is whether he has to keep it locked down.
    7. Re:Easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      oh man, that is just baaaaaad!!!!

    8. Re:Easy. by silverhalide · · Score: 1

      What's the best part about dating twenty-nine year-olds? There's twenty of them!

  15. Bill gates' desktop by pardasaniman · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:Bill gates' desktop by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on! That's a BSOD of the 9x series. Billy is at least running Win2000 or XP, which both reboot instead of bluescreening. (There is an option where you can tell it to bluescreen and not reboot, IIRC)

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    2. Re:Bill gates' desktop by UnassumingLocalGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      You guys are all crazy. THIS is what Bill Gate's desktop looks like.

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    3. Re:Bill gates' desktop by _xeno_ · · Score: 1
      I was unware Bill Gates had multiple personalities. I wonder what this Nathan side to his personality is - obviously the Nathan personality has masochistic tendencies. I wonder if it's this side of Gates that likes open source software, so Gate's psyche makes it suffer?

      We may never know.

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    4. Re:Bill gates' desktop by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      Honestly, BOB's desktop is the funniest thing I have seen this month.

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    5. Re:Bill gates' desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely Bush Jr's desktop.

    6. Re:Bill gates' desktop by ogewo · · Score: 1

      you mean Sir Billy G, don't you?

    7. Re:Bill gates' desktop by mattfite · · Score: 1

      another vote for bill. If ie doesn't block pop-ups, what the heck does he use?

    8. Re:Bill gates' desktop by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      He can't call himself "sir" unless he becomes a citizen of the commonwealth.

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  16. Amazon referrer link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    be forewarned.

  17. George W. by pyrbe · · Score: 1

    Yes, I certainly would like to know what percentage of time George W. spends on programming.. but I probably wouldn't like to see that code.

  18. Drew Curtis by Nonesuch · · Score: 4, Funny

    This would fare better as a Fark photoshop contest than as an ask slashdot.

    1. Re:Drew Curtis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fark's advertising has lately been pretty much limited to T-shirt sites that bash Bush. For this reason, I and many other people I know have stopped reading Fark.

    2. Re:Drew Curtis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      It took that much, did it? The raging stupidity and the fact that "Farkers" collectively couldn't find a personality with both hands and a map didn't do it?

      Seems like you're pretty well suited to Fark after all.

    3. Re:Drew Curtis by Chemical · · Score: 1

      Bill Gates' desktop looks something like this

    4. Re:Drew Curtis by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      Or a poll. =b

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    5. Re:Drew Curtis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that Drew Curtis of Drew Curtis' drew.fark.curtis.fark.com.drewcurtis.farkcom is a total fag.

      Do you have stairs in your house?

  19. Jan Peter Balkenende by insomaniac · · Score: 1

    Because it's as close to Harry Potter's desktop as you can come

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    1. Re:Jan Peter Balkenende by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      het is bedtijd man

  20. Missing Option: by CptChipJew · · Score: 2, Funny

    CowboyNeal's Desktop

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  21. Desktops by AntiMac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A) Why isn't this a poll?
    B) IMPORTANT people don't have desktops, sometimes semi-important people have consoles.
    C) How about CmdrTaco?

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    1. Re:Desktops by Homology · · Score: 1
      ========== .sig Intelligence should not be rewarded; ignorance should be punished ========== AntiMac

      Is holding the office of President of United States a punhisment?

    2. Re:Desktops by AntiMac · · Score: 1

      Is it a reward?

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  22. I know.... by Moderator · · Score: 0

    How about MY desktop?

    http://www.mindspring.com/~joekiser/Screenshot.p ng

    Bill Gates would be envious.

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    The World is Yours.
    1. Re:I know.... by lokedhs · · Score: 1

      Um, how do you get any work done? :-)

    2. Re:I know.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only will he be envious, but he'll also be motivated to FINALLY add PNG support to IE

    3. Re:I know.... by Moderator · · Score: 0

      Right Click > Run > xchat.

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      The World is Yours.
    4. Re:I know.... by compwizrd · · Score: 1

      IE 6.x has PNG support just fine.

    5. Re:I know.... by lokedhs · · Score: 1
      Ahh, pretty much the same as me then. The difference is that when the boss comes in, I can always pretend I'm doing serious stuff (think default RedHat GNOME desktop but with smaller icons).

      XChat is where I spend most of the time though.

    6. Re:I know.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you want to use PNG alpha blending, which is where IE falls down.

  23. GWB by mrpuffypants · · Score: 0, Troll

    Dubya's Computer: Super Secret Pictures

  24. Mad SCO Darls by madpierre · · Score: 2, Funny

    Especially the alledged copied source folder :)

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    siggy played guitar
    1. Re:Mad SCO Darls by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      It doesn't exist yet--it's on his "todo" list ;]

  25. I wonder if.... by Thu+Anon+Coward · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates uses M$ Bob. or would that be George Bush aka King Dubya?

    I bet Darl uses Linux of some sort. (just like the pot calling the kettle black)

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    I'm good with numbers - .45, 7.62, 9.....
    1. Re:I wonder if.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >or would that be George Bush aka King Dubya?

      You mean King Fahd, correct?

    2. Re:I wonder if.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, what a decidedly non-funny and non-insightful post. "M$ Bob?" "King Dubya?" The most base humor imaginable.

  26. Desktops I'd like to Monitor by richard_za · · Score: 1

    Darl McBride
    Eric S Raymound
    Linus Torvalds
    Paul Graham

    1. Re:Desktops I'd like to Monitor by B1LL_GAT3Z · · Score: 1

      Windows (Too much for his own OS)
      Terminal (Too 'enlightened' for a GUI)
      AsbestOS (Too flame-inducing)
      Lisp Machine (Too awesome)

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  27. The Real Question by Cat9117600 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now we all know the real question here is...how much of this percentage of time involves porn?

  28. Bush uses Mac OS 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  29. The Off Button by chickenwing · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I would be surprised if George W could even turn on a computer, but he could probably "put the off button on"

  30. Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by cscx · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by be-fan · · Score: 3, Informative

      As a front-end to a Plan 9 machine :)

      --
      A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
    2. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by cscx · · Score: 1

      Well, naturally :)

    3. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if you'd ever tried to use Plan 9 directly, you would know why. What an abomination.

      I think it is final evidence of the death of Bell Labs that they all sit around using other people's software just to get a text window interface to that heap of shit.

    4. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by cscx · · Score: 3, Informative

      And here it is...

    5. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so, how do you feel about Plan 9, under all of the varnish? Your ambiguity and indirection have left me sadly baffled. :(

    6. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Actually, When I worked at Bell labs/Lucent (1995), we were given NT and Sun for the desktop. Later on, Lucent/Avaya moved to giving only NT for the desktop and you AND your manager had to ask for the Sun. Most of the unix boxes were in the labs. But yes, I knew a few that worked with him and he had switched to Windows for the simplicity of fitting in.

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    7. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where one can plainly see that he performs his Primary Job Duties (reading netnews) using Netscape 4 in Windows.

    8. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by DrSkwid · · Score: 0

      lol, you ignorant fuckwit

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      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
    9. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by SvendTofte · · Score: 1

      Ok, so we all know that CS guru != Computer wiz

      But come on!

      Running Windows 98, with a shortcut to AOL on the desktop, and this was just 1 1/2 year ago. For real?? This is his everyday desktop work enviroment?

  31. George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't George Bush use Mircosoft Bob?

  32. Linus uses Bluecurve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, but there were some photos of a presentation Linus Torvalds was giving. And on the snaps, it clearly showed Red Hat's 'Bluecurve' theme. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to determine the distro, or indeed the desktop as RH themed GNOME and KDE in an almost exactly similar fashion.

    Nonetheless, I know from a KDE developer that Torvalds has submitted bug reports to the project, and in a recent interview he expressed his view that KDE was a bit further ahead in the desktop race, so I'd bet it was KDE.

    In an interview about 5 years back, via IRC, Torvalds was asked "Do you use X" and he responded with: "Yes, all the time, and I tend to use FVWM". So make of that what you will :)

  33. Why does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It isn't any secret or key to their success. My desktop has evolved around making actions easiest for me. I could care less about what someone else's desktop looks like.

    But, then again, I have a life.

    Okay-- go ahead. I know you want to:
    -1 troll

    (always happens when I tell the truth)

  34. Jesus! by molafson · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like to see Jesus' desktop; I bet he uses OS X.

    1. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Likely, because Jesus was gay.

    2. Re:Jesus! by bluGill · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nahh, Jesus' "desktop" is nothing like anything you could imangine. The speach interface is so powerful that he just says "Let there be light", and photons are automaticly designed and they spring into existance from nothing.

      Yes, his desktop fully violates most of the laws of physics.

    3. Re:Jesus! by molafson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's a question: Could Jesus design a desktop so cluttered that even He couldn't use it?

    4. Re:Jesus! by micaiah · · Score: 1


      "McCleary, who himself is homosexual, earned $17,000 a year for three years to work on his thesis on homosexual spirituality."

      Yeah, I am sure this papar was objective.

    5. Re:Jesus! by madpierre · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come on he's the son of god for christs sake.

      He uses the command line. ;)

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    6. Re:Jesus! by Molt · · Score: 1

      Nah. he's have to get his dad to help with that. His dad is l33t, or so I hear.

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    7. Re:Jesus! by mog007 · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm Buddhist, you insensitive clod!

    8. Re:Jesus! by ndinsil · · Score: 1

      Just in case some unsuspecting reader is inclined to accept WorldNetDaily's credibility, it should be pointed out Mr. McCleary's thesis examines the relationship between male homosexuality and spirituality, a topic that hadn't been much examined from a scholarly perspective at the time he wrote it. It makes no claim about the sexuality of Jesus, nor does it cite astrology to that end. The money he was paid was a standard Ph.D. scholarship at that university.

      And since feeling justifiable outrage has been found to activate one's pleasure center, I wonder if such articles should be filed under "conservative masturbation material".

    9. Re:Jesus! by rmarll · · Score: 4, Funny

      We'll never know. I'm sure he's logged in as root though.

    10. Re:Jesus! by cgenman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jesus suffered for our sins, bereft of worldly possessions.

      (He uses OS2 WARP.)

    11. Re:Jesus! by iabervon · · Score: 1

      He's 1974 years idle in that shell, though. At least he has a user account, unlike the rest of wheel on that system.

    12. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spirituality implies at least an attempt to pursue truth.
      Blatant perversion of God's gifts (sexual or otherwise) is antithetical to spirituality.
      God makes no pillow munchers.
      Human rebellion makes pillow munchers.
      May they see the error of their false ways.

    13. Re:Jesus! by bryanthompson · · Score: 1

      and his uptime is beyond all we can comprehend

    14. Re:Jesus! by PatoLucas · · Score: 1

      At least we know God uses Mandrake...

      http://comic.escomposlinux.org/ecol-142-e.png

      P.D.: See previous weeks of the comic for background...

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    15. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, why would he need a command line.

      He'd just plug himself in lawnmowerman-style.

    16. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be, since he is also called "The Word" and all that.

    17. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cover your butt. Bernard is watching.

    18. Re:Jesus! by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Jesus runs a closed-source, proprietary operating system call Logos. It's fully network aware, uses 802.200000a wireless networking (no need for access points or even a wireless card), an 11-dimensional display 12 billion light years around with trillions of pixels per inch, direct cognitive interface with no physical parts, three root accounts, a news reader and email client you'd have to see to believe (infinitesimal in size, but allows him to grok all the incoming mail and news there is without clicking a thing), and a shell that's just incredible, able to make instaneous changes with the absolute minimum of user effort. It's had 12 billion years of uptime and never, ever crashed.

      You should see the hardware: a massive singularity-based processor.

      Unfortunately, since about AD 33 all he's been doing is playing Freecell while the game of Life he's been running for all of those 12 billion years has gone completely out of control.

    19. Re:Jesus! by raz2 · · Score: 1

      I don't even think he has to actually type the command, he's just thinking it.

      .o( haXor heathens ) ...

      # nmap -vvP0 -T5 -oG heathens.log 152.62.52.0/24
      # grep "open" heathens.log
      # ...

      8)

      --


      -raz
      "I shoot troubles with a jackhammer"
    20. Re:Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trying to say Jesus Christ couldn't hit a curveball?

  35. real security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of security or anonymizers do they have in place?

    well, for one thing they don't put screenshots on the web.

    but how about tim berners-lee, if we're going to ask.

  36. Mine... by UncleRage · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...my monitor died last week.

    bhu dhu dhum dhum *crash*

    Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week.

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    1. Re:Mine... by Limburgher · · Score: 1

      So, um, how did you post this, exactly?

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    2. Re:Mine... by Jellybob · · Score: 1

      He can touch type.

      And spends enough time on /. to be able to tell how many times he has to hit tab before it gets to the reply button.

    3. Re:Mine... by Cloud+9 · · Score: 1

      He is that good.

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    4. Re:Mine... by Dreadlord · · Score: 1

      well, duh, /.ers don't even need a computer in order to post here, waving a magnet close to a network cable is more than enough.

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    5. Re:Mine... by reptilex · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean my laptop died too, and yes Macs are a religion, and yes my Mac died. The well known motherboard issue from what I can tell.

      If you wonder how I wrote this, I happen to have a linux box nearby.

      If you wonder why I write this, ask yourselves, what you would do when your 9 months old laptop died with your work for tuesday died on the saturday before presentation.

      A frustrated reptile :(

      (Intelligence seems to be the best distributed resource everybody thinks he has enough)

    6. Re:Mine... by Entropy248 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, um, how did you post this, exactly?

      Posts like this are why there needs to be a mod for Asshole, -2

  37. Newhart by Deanasc · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see the desktop of Larry's other brother Darryl.

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  38. freedom by http · · Score: 1

    i'd like to see debbie murdock's or ian murdock's desktop. they'e made so many available for the rest of the world... .

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    3^2 * 67^1 * 977^1
    1. Re:freedom by hattmoward · · Score: 1

      I could probably get a snap of his work desktop -- I live in Indianapolis, and he works about 2 miles away from here. I've considered popping in to say hello, but realized I'd sound like an idiot.

  39. Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by jesser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    we already know what George Bush's desktop looks like.

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    1. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by PirateMeep · · Score: 1

      Couldn't have guesed that it would be a mac.

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    2. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by tb3 · · Score: 1

      Oooh! You must have upset some neocon moderators.

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    3. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by jesser · · Score: 1

      Oooh! You must have upset some neocon moderators.

      If you're commenting on the "troll" moderation, then you're probably right. But I also got a lot of "interesting" moderations, which indicates that I pleased some democratic moderators. I guess that's what happens when you post something political.

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    4. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep the trendy, colleg-level, left-wing bullshit over at Kuro5hin, where absolutely every article is SOMETHING anti-American and anti-Bush, because Bush is Republican, and that is BAD!! Saddam should still be in power killing his own people! That way, lefties could bring up in 20 years how the "US keeps dictators in power..."

    5. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by lems1 · · Score: 1

      for those who would rather wget it:

      http://anon.moveon.speedera.net/10_large.mov

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    6. Re:Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by Malcontent · · Score: 1

      How many years did the US keep saddam in power? Wasn't it Bush Sr and reagan who sat on their hands while Saddam was gassing the kurds and iranians with chemical weapons given to them by Reagan.

      Yes it was.

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  40. GWB's Desktop... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Solitaire...

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    1. Re:GWB's Desktop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Minesweeper seems more likely. Of course all his maps have no bombs on them...

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  41. Linus Desktop by rekcah5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Linus uses Red Hat at work, and SuSE at Home.

    1. Re:Linus Desktop by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 1

      i think he said this in his book... in case that wasn't mentioned in the parent.

    2. Re:Linus Desktop by czion3 · · Score: 1

      I think you read that in his book "Just for Fun" but I bet he could have changed the distro since then.

  42. the source, luke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tim Berners-Lee and Doug Engelbart.

  43. timothy = fucktard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    For good or ill, open source developers' desktops at least are often visible in screenshots of their pet projects.

    Thanks for the insight.

  44. George Bush by ljavelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I seriously doubt that George Bush -has- a desktop. What is he going to do with it? Write a reply to the Secretary of State via eMail? Look at the budget on Excel? Put together the state of the union with PowerPOint?

    Come on, people in powerful places don't waste their time with this kind of crap. They have lots of people doing "stuff" for them.

    The exception is likely those in the computer industry - like Gates and Jobs. Those folks have a technical background, and want to experience their own industry (obviously, having a computer on your desktop can be a help if you're a leader in the world of technology).

    CEOs and other people of power are not like you and me. They have people like you and me. Or, more likely, they have people that have people like you and me. Well, twice more removed.

  45. That's Obvious! by TPS+Report · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see which software Mitch Bainwol has on his desktop: Shareaza, eMule, BitTorrent, or DC++.

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  46. one of the smartest people alive by squarefish · · Score: 1

    how about Steven Hawking's?

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  47. I can't take it anymore! by Hackie_Chan · · Score: 1

    Too many Etcha-a-sketch-George-W-Bush-Jokes! Gaaaaah!

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  48. Yours. by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, what's your IP address and root password? :)

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    1. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, what's your IP address and root password? :)

      192.168.0.1; login: root, password: pWnz03d

    2. Re:Yours. by maelstrom · · Score: 4, Funny

      IP: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 (I use IPV6)
      Password: supa%31337!haxx0r

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    3. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Want to beat Bush in November?

      No.

    4. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, what's your IP address and root password? :)

      My IP is 127.0.0.1. Believe it or not, my root password is exactly the same as yours. I'm actually trying to free up some space, so delete files at will!

    5. Re:Yours. by refactored · · Score: 1
      127.0.0.1

      But I think you will find we think very much a like. So just try out a few root passwords you know and you might be lucky...

    6. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yyyyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaarrararaaaaagggghgghagahghgh!!! !!!!!

    7. Re:Yours. by jroysdon · · Score: 1


      Rather you mean ::1. No need to waste space.

    8. Re:Yours. by Howard+Beale · · Score: 1

      127.0.0.1, 'password'

      Duh!

    9. Re:Yours. by ameoba · · Score: 1

      192.168.0.101

      login : "snake"
      password : "" (empty)

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    10. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IP = 127.0.0.1
      Password = rm -rf /

    11. Re:Yours. by kernhe · · Score: 1
      Password: supa%31337!haxx0r
      ... That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have... amazing, I've got the same password!
    12. Re:Yours. by Technician · · Score: 1

      Not mine. I did a cut and paste. My password is exactly ********

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  49. The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles. In fact, I really think Slashdot should try hard to get some info from the development team as to what OS they're running on those little vehicles, not to mention the basic hardware platform. It would be a real eye-opener, in fact, if it was discovered that they were using off-the-shelf components for the core computing systems, or if the specs turn out to be less complex than current-generation mini-itx class boards you can buy on the open market.

    They're supposedly a publicly-funded scientific project, so it would be revealing in itself if they refused to answer, claiming the need for secrecy. I dare you to file some FOIAs, Timothy :)

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    1. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by cscx · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are using Wind River's vxWorks.

    2. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm not sure what they're running, but they always start up with that damned song!
      Rovers, rovers, rovers, rovers,
      rovers, rovers, rovers, rovers,
      rovers, rovers, rovers, rovers,
      Martians, martians!
    3. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know some people at JPL, I'll see what I can find out...

    4. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 1
      They are using Wind River's vxWorks.


      Cool. Same OS as in my ReplayTV, and in a lot of other consumer devices. But what tools are they using to work within that? Just whatever standard tools come with a dev package, or stuff they cooked up themselves, maybe some nice goodies WR gave them, etc.? Also, this still says nothing about the actual hardware platform they use. But thanks for that initial insight. Do you have a link to document that, where we could read more?
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    5. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles.

      I asked them this when I was at JPL last week. The rover software is coded in C, and most of the rover drivers use Red Hat. Julie Townsend told me that she uses Windows, and there's a fairly even mix of Mac, *nix, and Windows users across the whole project.

    6. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool. We'll meet back here on the second tuesday of next month, okay? Make sure you're not followed.

    7. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by dietlein · · Score: 1

      If you watch NASA TV, you can usually see what OS is used on many of the computers.

      The cameras don't hold back when panning around the JPL control room.

      Determining what OSes are used is left as an exercise for the reader. :) No FOIAs needed.

    8. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by macjohn · · Score: 1

      Wow. What ever happened to ADA? I thought that was supposed to be only language for high reliability government stuff. Course that was years ago. I watched NASA TV during the landing and it looked a whole lot like Solaris windows to me. But then I'm not a good judge of unix species.

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    9. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2, Informative


      Try here.
      Interesting that you threatended to use FOIA before actually trying to find out what's already on the web. To sum: they're using VxWorks with a radiation-hardened RAD6000 32-bit RISC chip from BAE systems. I've seen information on the RAM configuration, especially since they began having trouble with the Flash RAM; essentially, they use EEPROM, some Flash, some regular ECC RAM.

      Even more here.

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    10. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh. Actual comedy? On Slashdot? Impressive.

    11. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by jaxdahl · · Score: 1

      They use Java for development. Here is a public version of a program they use for viewing data from the mars robots: maestro

    12. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1

      I'm not so much interested in the Desktop, but I am interested in the code which they produced with it.

    13. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does NASA (a public entity) require proprietary Real Player software to watch the NASA stream? This stream used to be available in other free formats. Who got their palm greased for that one?

    14. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 1

      I didn't threaten FOIA, Johnny :) Merely suggested it. Besides, responding to this Ask Slashdot was irresistably easy, and I'd have had to think a bit about how to search for that information (and I would probably miss some of it). Thanks for the info.

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    15. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by infolib · · Score: 2, Informative

      The british Beagle team use SuSE/KDE on the desktops a lot. The beagle probe itself use(d) an ADA run-time kernel. Read all about it.

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    16. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that information. Have you got some screenshots? :) Even if I did allow a Real product to be installed on my computer, I doubt I could make that determination "live," since I can skin my Windows box to look like just about anything from a distance (using Litestep, among other things) and so forth. And it still won't give the level of detail I am asking for, as far as what types of tools they use. Just whatever's on screen when the cameras are on...

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    17. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 1

      Cool! Thanks for that link, too. Great mad scientist shot at the top, even :)

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    18. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Chris+Brewer · · Score: 1

      So not LCARS? :)

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    19. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're on to them! NASA -- that's right, NASA is going to skin their interface to look like a different interface JUST to trip you up!

    20. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wil was talking about the engineers' and scientists' desktops & development environment. As noted elsewhere, the platform on the rovers is VxWorks (a realtime embedded OS).

      From what I've seen on NASA TV, it looks like the communications software at JPL mostly runs on Solaris, or at least something running CDE. If it is Solaris, I'd bet they're thinking of switching to linux due to the enormous cost savings. I work on a fairly large physics experiment (several thousand CPUs) where the analysis farms were originally about 60% Solaris, 40% linux, and now is more like 5% Solaris, 95% linux.

      ADA is much more of a Department of Defense thing, so it's a little hard to know how much DoD uses it. A lot of details of the projects where they might use it are surely secret.

    21. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by -tji · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Rovers are using vxworks... But the engineers could be using anything on their desktops.

    22. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by mindriot · · Score: 1

      Where's QuantumFTL when you need him? Too bad he doesn't have screenshots on his homepage. At least he's on Slashdot. Somebody go wake him up. :)

    23. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey guys! LOOK! It's WIL WHEATON! And he's POSTING ON SLASHDOT! Let's all run and kiss his ass like the good little Star Trek weenies we are!

    24. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Pakaran2 · · Score: 1

      How do they drive the rovers across that kind of huge time lag anyhow?

    25. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1


      They tell the rover where they want it to go, and the Rover is smart enough to chart the correct course and avoid obstacles on its own. Yes, that it is pretty cool, although I don't think it's been really challenged yet--Spirit hasn't yet gone far enough to have to avoid an obstacle--so it may not work as well as expected.

      There's more information on this on the web; try www.spaceflightnow.com for scrupulous detail and links.

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    26. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shut up Wesley

    27. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by messiuh · · Score: 1

      Jeeze, give the guy a break. He's a famous geek contributing to the community, that rules.

      Wow, look at that. Good manners and respect, and I don't have to be a trek weenie to practice 'em!!

    28. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by techiemac · · Score: 1

      Yup VXWorks it is. It's amazing how much info you can get on their space archectecure.
      But, yes, most space systems are not as complex as the motherboard in your PC. In fact, the last rover we successfully landed on Mars used 386 processors I believe. Before everyone begins to snicker at this fact, Space systems development is often about playing the numbers game... keep as low risk as possible since the risks are so high! You also don't want the latest Pentium 4 (or AMD) w/ hyperthreading on board for several reasons:
      1. High power consumption (a biggie)
      2. Larger surface to expose therefore more radiation issues
      3. Heat dissapation issues
      4. Stability (issues with '386's are known)
      5. Profit! (sorry had to throw this one in)

      Yes you can go to the local store and pick up a miniITX board, throw it in a spacecraft, hack together some software, and watch it come right back to Earth. Space programs are expensive for a reason. This is not about throwing stuff together in a weekend. It's about designing, testing, designing again, testing, reviewing, coding, testing, testing, testing (get the picture). Once it goes up, it becomes much harder, if not impossible, to fix! (Yes the shuttle has fixed Hubble but it lies in LEO (Low Earth Orbit) to the tune of billions).
      Besides, try finding a radiation hardened miniITX board ;)
      Case modders anyone...
      I just thought I would throw out my 2 cents since there is often a lot of ignorance that gets thrown around with the Space program. Space is not easy... we can't push a button and have everything work perfectly. In fact it's amazing so much works as is.

    29. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the problems they had with their creations, I'm guessing they use either Windows or FreeBSD.

    30. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Phleg · · Score: 1

      They're using Lego Mindstorms. Duh!

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    31. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I love Wil Wheaton!

      What's Star Trek?

    32. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by taviso · · Score: 1

      Some people have reported seeing engineers using Xv in the background of tv reports.

      http://www.trilon.com/xv/xvtv.html

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    33. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 1
      Jeeze, give the guy a break. He's a famous geek contributing to the community, that rules.


      I wasn't going to say anything, because you shouldn't feed the trolls, but since you did... no kidding! He didn't just play a geek, but really is a geek - who still managed to get married and have kids and stay respectable, even. His nick's been on my friends list from when I saw his first post and checked out his website to make sure he wasn't just pretending.

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    34. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by johannesg · · Score: 1

      Checking up on how far we have come to building a fully working Enterprise, were you? ;-)

    35. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by StringBlade · · Score: 1
      Did you by any chance ask them if Spirit and Opportunity use the same code, or if they were coded independently by two separate teams working on the same requirements?

      Now that we know Spirit has a software problem, the answer to this question may make a lot of difference as to whether or not Opportunity is going to have the same problem(s).

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    36. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you by any chance ask them if Spirit and Opportunity use the same code, or if they were coded independently by two separate teams working on the same requirements?

      No, I didn't. I should have, but instead I asked her which one would win in a fight. She said that they were twins, so it would be pretty even . . . then I asked her which one was the Evil Twin, and she laughed and said that was classified information.

    37. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Java+Pimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The "Evil Twin" is the one with the goatee.

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  50. Neal Stephenson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I would like to see what Neal Stephenson's desktop looks like, as well as his editor of choice.

    1. Re:Neal Stephenson by securitas · · Score: 1

      From what I understand, currently Neal Stephenson's desktop looks like a desk with real working mechanical typewriter on it. Remember those?

    2. Re:Neal Stephenson by maxomatic · · Score: 1

      Neal Stephenson uses Emacs. He sings its praises in his book 'In the Beginning was the Command Line' which is a fantastic book about the nature of computer interfaces.

    3. Re:Neal Stephenson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the one book i never read. Emacs is a good choice for a feature complete application.

  51. Inquiring geeks want to know by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you ever been curious about what someone else's computing environment looks like?

    No. No I have not. I have been so not curious that the very question takes me aback.

    Is this something like "Geeks Uncensored" or the "Weekly Geek News"? What's the favorite programing language of the Bat Boy anyway? Are we going to see Linus throwing his jacket over his monitor as the paparazzi descend upon him?

    What a peculiar concept.

    KFG

    1. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do not quite agree there, dear sir. For one, the peculiarity of this conundrum is one that is shrouded in an enigma on the basis of a copulation ad infinitum contrary to the foul wench that is your petridish. I jest.

    2. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

      This week on Geekside Edition:

      • Check out Linus sporting this new sports jacket. When asked about his favorite line of menswear he replied, "What is with you people? Aren't you going to ask me something important?"
      • Bill Gates is thinking about having a makeover. We've got the inside scoop on what kind of haircuts are fashionable for geeks nowadays.
      • New Pictures of Carly
      I would watch that show... The same way I like rubbernecking car crashes on th side of the road.
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    3. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by Adam9 · · Score: 1

      If you're not curious, then don't bother reading the comments. I'm kind of curious, because there may be some interesting ideas/hacks that other people have that I wouldn't have thought of. This is a little more revealing than "Cribs" on MTV or whatever it's called.

    4. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by kfg · · Score: 1

      I do not quite agree there, dear sir.

      Ah, well, in the matter of what I have been curious about I find I must fall back on argument by authoritity. Your disagreement is nullified.

      . . . a copulation ad infinitum contrary to the foul wench that is your petridish.

      There are laws against that sort of thing you know? Not to mention the fact that I now have the vague feeling that I'm supposed to slap your face and challange you to a duel.

      I'll have to discuss that matter with my petri dish I suppose and find out what the foul wench thinks about the matter.

      Between the two of us she's the most cultured.

      KFG

    5. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say, you're a pretty engaging Slashdot user. If it weren't for your rampant US flagwaving, I'd go out of my way to read your comments.

    6. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by kfg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cribs is interesting if you're into architecture and interior decorating. The chief problem with Cribs is that the majority of celebs they cover are the sort that throw a lot of money and bad taste at the problem. Still, watching Cribs is roughly analogous to looking at a finished program, which can have its points of interest.

      I prefer While You Were Out/Trading Spaces.

      Now this is serious hacking under pressure, right down to the construction of custom furniture on the spot. It's amazing what you can do with a little paint and MDF and I've seen a number of interesting ideas.

      But I'll note that I don't pay any attention to their working enviroment, ya know, the trailer and the specific tools and how they lay them out and stuff.

      I'm looking at their output.

      It's the algorithm I'm interested in, not how they typed it.

      Your milage may vary.

      KFG

    7. Re:Inquiring geeks want to know by kfg · · Score: 1

      The only time I wave a flag is when I'm in international or foreign waters. If I do not I am officially outlaw.

      I always resent doing so. I find flags and what they stand for repulsive. Flag waving is Fascism (following the flag, as in a Roman military unit).

      Perhaps you are mistaking my priciples of individual liberty and independence (and thus an aversion to socialism in certain cases) to be right wing American patriotism.

      If so, sir, the mistake is yours.

      Either that or you're just trolling me and I've been had. :)

      KFG

  52. Havoc penningtons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is most infamous for ruining the Gnome desktop, which caused RedHat to cancel their desktop distribution, make many former pro gnome distributions go to kde, such as Debian for example.

    Ever since Gnome 2.0 was released, Gnomes market share on the Linux desktop plummetted from 40% to just 8.5%. Sun has publicly admitted that the Java desktop was a faliure too.

    So, I want to se Havoc Penningtons desktop, what motivated him to do so much crap to gnome!

    That horribly slow window manager.
    That horrible registry editor clone
    That horrible hig.
    Not to mention the file dialog STILL SUCKS!
    Did i forget to mention that the FILE DIALOG STILL SUCKS!

    In a word, he isn't called havoc for nothing!
    Dont just mod me down. Grab an older Linux distro with Gnome 1.4 in it, Such as Debian Potato or Suse 8.0, and compare it to one Such as Mandrake 9.2 or Fedora and see why Gnome has failed because of Havoc Pennington.

  53. Here's your answer by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny
    Would you like to see what tools and products someone like Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, George Bush, or Steve Jobs uses on a daily basis?

    Linus uses an sophisticated email filter with a lot of sco.com addresses in it

    Bill Gates uses a scepter and fake British lord's robes of state, to rehearse his meeting with Liz

    Steve Jobs would use the stress reduction and temper control cdrom he got at Christmas if Macs could run Windows binaries.

    Bush uses a Microsoft Barney

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  54. Martha Stewart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll bet she has icons scattered randomly over the desktop, and all the colors clash.

    1. Re:Martha Stewart by shaldannon · · Score: 1

      No, she probably has lots of icons to pdf files on how to dump imclone stock before the price drops through the basement.

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  55. Anecdote of Possible Amusement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A while ago in a far off land, I noticed in someone's sig in a forum a link to see his desktop. Seems he had a script to give a live shot of it every time someone hit his box. (He was running Apache on OS X)

    I thought this was interesting, so I hit refresh every couple seconds. I noticed he was looking at porn, he had quite a bit. Also he was in an IRC chat at the same time. Some Mac Clan or something. Then I realized this would probably slow down his box considerably. So I kept refreshing. I hit refresh and see the goatse.cx warning page. He opens up TextEdit and types "Whoever the fuck is watching me you're lucky goatse.cx is down!"

    ... and there was much laughter.

  56. Well, you asked for it. by naitro · · Score: 5, Informative

    The swedish site Unix.se has screenshots from several famous computeers (hey, it could be a word!) desktops here. The site is in swedish, but you'll most likely at least understand the names.

    1. Re:Well, you asked for it. by RJHill · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dennis Ritchie runs NT4?! GAK. It's like finding out your parents are supplementing their pension incomes by making porn.

      *Shudder*

      --
      Ron
    2. Re:Well, you asked for it. by mst76 · · Score: 2, Informative

      From an interview:

      Could you please describe a typical work day at Bell Labs? What software do you use?

      Dennis Ritchie: I tend to come in late unless there's a meeting, but spend a fair amount of time tending to e-mail communication. My own environment (on PC hardware) actually runs Windows NT, but it is used mainly as a graphics terminal connected to a Plan 9 server, in a way approximately analogous to an X windows client. The connection at home is now via cable modem (until last summer ISDN), and Ethernet at the office. Any editing, software work, and mail is done in this exported Plan 9. For stuff like getting Excel and Word things, plus much WWW browsing, I revert to NT.

    3. Re:Well, you asked for it. by skookum · · Score: 1

      Not just that, but there's a icon titled "Shortcut to aol.exe" on his desktop. And it doesn't look like the kind of desktop that has all the clutter of stock-installed icons even if they've never been used. *shudder*

  57. Oh hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm coming, oh god Im coming!! OooooHHHH GOD IM shooting my wad all over you!!!!!!

  58. I see Bill Gates' desktop every day. by krygny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whenever I use one of my Windows PCs. He must be satisfied with it, otherwise he would see that it be improved. But he doesn't. You get what he wants.

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    1. Re:I see Bill Gates' desktop every day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, fuck -- off. Jesus, what a whiner.

  59. God's desktop by raistphrk · · Score: 1

    God uses Gentoo with blackbox. He's got more foo than you. His desktop reminds him why he needs to take breaks from playing The Sims in wine.

    1. Re:God's desktop by bonch · · Score: 1

      God compiles LFS-CVS.

  60. George DubYah Bush...? by jxliv7 · · Score: 1
    Ya gotta be kidding.

    If he uses a computer it's only for playing solitaire.

    1. Re:George DubYah Bush...? by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      "No, lets play global thermo-nuculer war."

      --

      Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
  61. MMMM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't want to know what I use. Teehee. Come on, hot shot, you wanna have some fun tonight? I got Debian loaded up and ready to go. Just lemme ask my Gimp. I'm feeling all SuSE. Why don't you lemme Gzip that offa ya?

  62. ya know he loves mouse trails by kaltkalt · · Score: 3, Funny

    "wow look at mah cursor! it's got a tail! come over here condi... check this out, lookey, when I move my mouse 'round, there's a lil' tail it's like a real mousey!"

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    Stupid people make stupid things profitable.
    1. Re:ya know he loves mouse trails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Stupid people make stupid things profitable.

      Were you aware how the context of your sig enhanced the humor of your post? Absolutely priceless!

    2. Re:ya know he loves mouse trails by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

      Heh, I like to think my sig enhances all my posts... but yeah, this one especially :)

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      Stupid people make stupid things profitable.
  63. Steve Job's by frooyo · · Score: 1

    I don't remember where I read it but apparently Steve Job's before returning to Apple used an IBM notebook running NeXTStep. The reason being, since NeXT stopped producing hardware and became an OS for x86, IBM's notebooks were ironically the only hardware compatable laptops on the market that could run NeXTStep.

  64. RMS by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    Richard Stallman, as I heard, uses Emacs to mostly everything, instead of a desktop. File management, websurfing, emails, hacking, all that kinds of stuff Emacs is able to do...

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  65. RMS's desktop by phr1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A few people have asked about this. I used to work for RMS and have seen him hacking lots of times. He uses an amazingly primitive environment. No window system at all, just text mode. He does everything inside Emacs. I spoke with him once about a web-based email client I'd used and he said he could understand why such things were worthwhile but he'd never want to use one himself because he couldn't use Emacs editing commands in one while composing mail. Since he doesn't use a window system, there's no simple mechanism for a screen shot, but there wouldn't be much to see anyway, just whatever message he was composing or code he was hacking.

    As for his .emacs file, last time I looked, it wasn't empty, but contained a few lines to turn off the default disabling of novice-confusing commands like narrow-to-window, and I think he also enables debug-on-error. It no serious customization to speak of though. As someone else mentioned, he's presumably set up Emacs's defaults the way he already likes them.

    In recent years because of injuries, he's often had to get other people to type for him while he tells them what to type ("control-F, meta-d, blah blah"). That wouldn't show up in a screen shot either, but somehow seems like it should be part of the picture. Typing for him is an interesting experience if you don't have to do it for too long. Volunteer for it sometime if the situation arises, I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

  66. short answer by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

    No.

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  67. Bill Clinton by jvschwarz · · Score: 1

    I just wonder if his desktop picture has a cigar on it...

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    ... if that's your best, your best won't do... - Twisted Sister
    1. Re:Bill Clinton by peoria+kid · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it would be best to look under Bill Clintons desktop. Devel with a blue dress on

  68. Video of Dubya's computer... by trafik · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, he seems to be pretty proficient with a computer. :-)

    [For the high-bandwidth version go to http://bushin30seconds.org/finalists.shtml]

  69. esr/donald knuth screenies and dotfiles by fiddlesticks · · Score: 1

    What is it with these guys and their fvwm love, eh?

    esr

    I used to use fvwm2, and tuned my desktop design very carefully to get maximum use out of the screen space. (Now I use GNOME + Sawfish, which is just as effective but harder to bundle up a configuration for).

    screenie

    dotfile

    D. Knuth

    This Fvwm2 setup file provides the basic emacs-centered environment
    that I have found most comfortable on my standalone machine at home.
    Basically it gives me a big Emacs window at the left and a slightly
    smaller XTerm at the right, together with a clock and CPU monitor
    and a few buttons for accessing independent desktops.

    screenie

    dotfile

    1. Re:esr/donald knuth screenies and dotfiles by shaldannon · · Score: 1

      I love ESR's comment about "with a screen this big, who needs a pager?" on that tiny little porthole he's got. Me, I have 3200x1200 with two 3x1 pagers in Enlightenment. Screenshots here (the first few are from when I was on solaris or early linux, look at the last few).

      --


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    2. Re:esr/donald knuth screenies and dotfiles by The+Snailman · · Score: 1

      I would like to see a screenshot of esr's GNOME + Sawfish Config.

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  70. Shang Tsungs Desktop by bowman01 · · Score: 1

    Windows - Recycle bin= Finish him, my computer= My outworld, Network neighborhood= Network realm, Start= Fight!, background= stage, blue screen= pit stage.

  71. ed: the only essential for ultimate programmers? by tearmeapart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have always dreamed of seeing the setup of those who work on the low-level stuff in BSD and Linux, especially today.
    There are so many tools and configurations that the ultimate programmers could use to help them.

    i saw the console of one of the people who worked on BSD in the late 70s and 80s...
    Surprisingly, he was running Redhat 8, (almost) default install.
    The default install includes such great applications like OpenOffice and Mozilla.
    However, he never used those applications.
    Also, he had X with GNOME installed.
    However, he never used X.
    I also notice vi and emacs were installed. Everyone who uses seriously uses console likes either vi or emacs (but never both).
    However, he never used vi or emacs.

    Yes, he installed Redhat 9.0, but he didn't really use it to its full potential.
    All he used was csh, telnet, and ed.
    Yes, ed.
    For those who do not know ed, it is a text-only edittor that can only change the contents of one line at a time. It was mainly used back in the 60s and 70s when most computers did not have monitors, and every line had to be printed out.

    However, despite his lack of creativity in the tool-selection, he is the best programmer I know, and knows the bsd kernal inside and out, as well as many of the popular device drivers.
    His code is beautiful too, conforming to K&R.

  72. Surprised.... by UezeU · · Score: 0

    nobody wanted to see what tubgirl or goatse have on their desktop

  73. Mine! by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

    On a 50 foot wall projected! That would be sweet.

  74. Frankly my dear, by mOoZik · · Score: 1

    I don't give a damn. I would have perhaps when I was thirteen and trying to emulate my heroes, but it would be utterly pointless now. Thus, I don't care to see any of those desktops.

  75. Re:Neal Stephenson - Fountain Pen by securitas · · Score: 1

    Correction: it's not a typewriter that's on his desk. It's a fountain pen. That's what he used to write Quicksilver.

  76. Al Gore by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

    What about the man who invented the Internet?

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    End of Line.
    1. Re:Al Gore by JeffTL · · Score: 1

      Well, he's a Final Cut fan, and he sits on the board of Apple, so he probably uses OS X.

  77. funky UI stuff by talieos · · Score: 5, Funny
    One student job I had, a user had drawn a line down the screen at column 72, where this particular xterm lay on the screen. Why? So he could write fortan in it of course!

    The funny/sad thing was one of his specialties was supposed to be user interface. He wasn't please when the X10 to X11 upgrade moved the windows. Plus the line was in permanent marker.

    That was one desktop I didn't need to see...

    1. Re:funky UI stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      oil from orange peel can remove permanent markers!

    2. Re:funky UI stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One student job I had, a user had drawn a line down the screen at column 72, where this particular xterm lay on the screen. Why? So he could write fortran in it of course!

      The funny/sad thing was one of his specialties was supposed to be user interface.


      Actually, this sounds just like what a pragmatic user interface specialist might do - fix the user interface in the simplest available way. That marker cost perhaps 2 minutes to put there. Changing the code to do it for him would NOT be done in two minutes. (You can still criticize the choice of permanent marker, of course.)

      Do not criticize until you have thought the implications through - assume that people are doing things for a rational reason, and try to find that reason.

      Eivind.

  78. Screenshot of Oval Office computer by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Funny
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    "BSD: Free as in speech. Linux: Free as in beer. Windows 10: Free as in herpes." --Man On Pink Corner in #52607549.
    1. Re:Screenshot of Oval Office computer by greenhide · · Score: 4, Funny
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    2. Re:Screenshot of Oval Office computer by Sevn · · Score: 1

      That's brilliant. :)

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    3. Re:Screenshot of Oval Office computer by greenhide · · Score: 1

      Hi, thanks for all the Funny mods, but please mod me redundant instead. When you scroll down the comments, you'll see this link listed at least 3 times, posted at an earlier date than mine. I should have read through the comments before posting, and I deserve to be punished.

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  79. This would be appropriate by micaiah · · Score: 2, Funny


    since Macintosh is a religion as well.

  80. Don't know what distro... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    but his "interactive shell" is tcsh.
    (some day he posted some example of some bug or something, I don't recall completely, on LKML, where he c&p'd the tcsh command prompt together with commands)

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  81. Heroes by metulj · · Score: 1
    Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, George Bush, or Steve Jobs

    Out of this crowd who would you call hero?
    Party of the first? Well, we know you ain't gettting laid. Party of the second? You have no self respect. Party of the third? Well, you know, he does fly onto aircraft carriers in a rented flight suit occasionally. Party of the fourth? Hmmm. Maybe in Bizarro world if men were women or something....

    1. Re:Heroes by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you are not from the UK

      Bill Gates is a hero out there

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      Don't you know it is now both immoral and criminal to think beyond the next quarterly report?
  82. FUNNY! MOD PARENT UP! by unborn · · Score: 1

    FUNNY! MOD PARENT UP!

  83. Re:George Bush's Desktop... by SpaceRook · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not clicking any link with the word "goat" in the path.

  84. Steve Jobs by Trillan · · Score: 1

    Oh wait, you mean their physical desktop.

    No, I want to see what goodies he has installed on his Powerbook -- I'd love to see what the next Keynote-type surprise is...

  85. we dont have to show no stinking Desktop shots by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    we dont have to show you any stupid desktop shots..

    well someone had to say it! :)

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  86. The desktop is a personal thing by SWroclawski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this is a fundamental difference between even the most passionate Microsoft Windows user... In GNU/Linux and Unix in general, the desktop is a person thing. We change it to fit our needs, our key bindings, our window dressing, our themeable widgets.

    So what does it matter what someone else's desktop looks like- particularly a non-technical person? They'll likely be using something more "out of the box" than I will. I'm sometimes curious about technical user's desktops to find out tricks about how they've made thier system more productive (such as dedicating each key on the numeric keypad to a screen in X, or using virtual dekstops to represnt connections to a given remote host via SSH, or a desktop where all the windows are automatically tiled so there's no wasted space.

    Those are interesting, finding out what Tony Danza uses isn't.

    No offense Tony.

    - Serge

    1. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by breon.halling · · Score: 1

      I don't know about his desktop, but I betcha Tony Danza's got a copy of this installed! =)

      --
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    2. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think this is a fundamental difference between even the most passionate Microsoft Windows user... In GNU/Linux and Unix in general, the desktop is a person thing. We change it to fit our needs, our key bindings, our window dressing, our themeable widgets.


      LOL I guess you're not a Windows user to make that kind of broad assumption. A lot of people customize thier desktops with backgrounds, layouts, dual monitor layouts, winamp/trillian/etc. set just so, what shortcut icons are on the desktop and what in the toolbar, etc.

      To assume a Windows desktop isn't/can't be customized is naive and biased.
    3. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In GNU/Linux and Unix in general, the desktop is a person thing. We change it to fit our needs, our key bindings, our window dressing, our themeable widgets.

      In other words, there is no way to target it because it is a moving target. Hence Linux never "conquers the desktop."

    4. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Erm, well, no ... many WinUsers customize their desktops every which way, in any way that appearance, behaviour, keybindings, etc. can be tweaked (which is fairly extensive). Myself, I don't do much to the default appearance, but I do strange things like "build" legolike structures with the DOS-app icons, and some apps have been twiddled to the point that they can no longer remember their original mission in life. :)

      That aside -- something I've noticed for a long time: *NIX folk who use a GUI tend to have desktops with many more widgety elements, such as purely graphical toolbars, and they tend to have more such toolbars onscreen. Conversely, Windows users are somewhat more prone to have toolbars set to include (or sometimes be only) text labels, and tend to have fewer visible toolbars (even when an app has a ton of 'em available).

      This is consistent with my experience for what the default GUI is like in both Windows and various Linux disties. I suspect that in general, Windows users tend to be more menu-oriented, while *NIX users *who use a GUI* tend to be more visuals-oriented**. Which may be one factor in why people prefer the OSs that they do.

      ** Ignoring the command line/console interface for this argument, since there are CLI-lovers aplenty among both Win and *NIX users.

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    5. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To assume a Windows desktop isn't/can't be customized is naive and biased.

      To think that "customization" means the same thing to Windows and *nix users demonstrates inexperience with *nix.

      A "custom" Windows desktop is like a custom van -- some furniture, a lifted roof, some art on the sides and windows. A "custom" Linux desktop is more like a custom airplane -- it *probably* has two wings and an engine, but there are exceptions.

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    6. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Jon+Howard · · Score: 1

      This is a very astute analogy, and I wish someone would mod it up. It's not an insult to Windows users, it's simply a different level of customization altogether.

    7. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Realy. So can you set it up so that a middle click brings up a menu of your favorite commands? While a right click brings up the generic list of commands, and the left click brings up the configuration utilities?

      Can you make it so that they virtual size of your desktop is many times larger then the actual size?

      Can you eliminate the taskbar and use a Mac-style drop-down window list?

      Can you set up your browser to call up some of your favorite programs?

      Can you eliminate all that stuff altether and give each and every window it's entire window space in full size mode and switch between them with a alt-p or a alt-n?

      Can you eliminate the gui altogether and use a emac or a screen-style program and never use a mouse?

      No of course not. You have the same stupid start menu, with the same stupid task bar. You can hide it, you can stick it on the side or top or change it's colors. You can move icons around or create shortcuts on the taskbar. You can do keyboard shortcuts. You can change the colors around.

      With some hacks you can have multiple virtual desktops.

      whoop-d-fucking-do.

    8. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by MooCows · · Score: 1

      Heck, I don't even use explorer as my shell anymore on my Windows box.
      There are plenty of alternative shells for windows.

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      30 minutes by bike, 15 by bus.
    9. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      A "custom" Linux desktop is more like a custom airplane -- it *probably* has two wings and an engine, but there are exceptions.
      It *probably* flies, too, but you wouldn't trust your life to it.
    10. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yuo = teh nerd

    11. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can you set it up so that a middle click brings up a menu of your favorite commands?

      Yes, you can

      Can you make it so that they virtual size of your desktop is many times larger then the actual size?

      Matrox cards used to come with software that let you do this. Don't know if they still do.

      Can you eliminate the taskbar and use a Mac-style drop-down window list?

      You can have a window list. You can probably also have it be drop-down, but I'm not going to spend much time looking for it.

      Can you set up your browser to call up some of your favorite programs?

      Doesn't your copy if IE obey file type prefs? Mine does.

      Can you eliminate all that stuff altether and give each and every window it's entire window space in full size mode and switch between them with a alt-p or a alt-n?

      Don't know about alt-p or alt-n, but it's a trivial matter for apps to run fullscreen in windows.

      Can you eliminate the gui altogether and use a emac or a screen-style program and never use a mouse?

      Just run a full screen command prompt window, and then run emacs in it through cygwin. Works fine.

      The thing is, it's easier to do these things with linux, but for a lot of them you have to still install separate software. There are desktop replacements out there that replace the entire explorer shell for windows, so you can make it look and feel like literally anything. Software is just software. It provides access to the underlying hardware. There's nothing linux does that windows inherently can't, and the same is true the other way around.

      Having said that, I'm mostly a linux user, because as you said, linux is easier to tweak to be the way you want it.

    12. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by SWroclawski · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not a Windows user. I don't use proprietary software.

      But I reiterate the other poster who replied- this level of customization is tiny compared to the absolute control that a GNU/Linux user has.

      I'd point out the difference in substance between my post and yours.

      I talked about moving whole desktops and aranging them according to rules- having keybindings which make major changes- changing the rules that the window manager uses to set my desktop and the way my applications bahave.

      You talked about changing backgrounds and being able to run a few apps like WinAmp, and place icons on your desktop.

      This isn't customization with much of any substance. Your applications still act, for the most part, just the way they did out of the box.

      To detracts talking about customization as being a problem- while I would agree that interoperability and consistency is a goal, that this should never fly in the face of customization. Having my GNOME key bindings consistent across applications and even across to KDE applications, or KDE themes effecting GNOME applications does not detract from my ability to modify thier behavior.

      Nor is GNOME/KDE is hard and fast rule. On my laptop, for instance, I use XFCE4, which is different than GNOME 2, which is what I use most other places.

      Customization is about being able to change anything.

      Interoperability is not about tieing user's hands.

      - Serge

    13. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by base_chakra · · Score: 1

      Those are interesting, finding out what Tony Danza uses isn't.

      It is when his desktop background is a screen grab from that one episode of Who's the Boss? where he sees Angela naked in the shower.

    14. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Paladine97 · · Score: 1

      In windows you can set any program to be your shell. There is a registry key you can change.

      So therefore, not all desktops must be explorer.exe. I could write my own crappy app and have it run as the desktop and hence, build my own plane!

    15. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Paladine97 · · Score: 1

      You don't have to use explorer.exe as your shell. You can change it to whatever you want.

      So therefore you could write your own app that implements all those 'great' features you mentioned.

      Bingo, same functionality.

    16. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

      I've got both on my desk actually. The Linux machine is there for work, services, etc. The biggest customization I've done on it is make sure "alias ls ls -CF" :^)

    17. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by swillden · · Score: 1

      I could write my own crappy app and have it run as the desktop and hence, build my own plane!

      Cool. Do you know anyone who has? Or, even better, has ported something like fluxbox to Windows, and uses it as their desktop?

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    18. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by C32 · · Score: 1
  87. Steve Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont know what Steve Job's desktop looks like, but I do know what his wallpaper is:

    http://goatse.cx

  88. oh, also the Martian Express/Beagles' teams'. by Artifex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not just for the sake of completeness. It would certainly be interesting to compare software and hardware, and I don't mean in the competitive sense. I'm more interested in seeing whether each group has independently evolved the same tool suites to do the same tasks, or whether each group has realms of innovation.

    You can bet it would be a great kickstart for the next generation of entrepreneurs to have a rudimentary insight into the types of problems (and early-generation solutions) they will have to work with in their own potential projects. Ironically, of course, that may be one reason for attempting to keep this information secret, keeping an ivory-tower mystique (and securing their jobs and their governments' scientific edge) rather than opening the next "space race" to all comers.

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  89. Alan Cooper by afree87 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Alan Cooper's book, About Face, describes an ideal desktop: not a metaphor for something else, but an easily learned, symbolic interface.

    The closest thing to it currently is GNOME.

    1. Re:Alan Cooper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, snap, I totally misinterpreted the question. That's just me, with a typical Slashdot attention span...

    2. Re:Alan Cooper by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

      At first I read both your subject and comment as "Alice Cooper". Had me baffled for a minute!

  90. Re:ed: the only essential for ultimate programmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His code is beautiful too, conforming to K&R.

    Well? Which is it? Beautiful, or K&R? It can't be both.

  91. Dick Van Dyke's Amiga by chaparrl · · Score: 1

    I don't have an Amiga, but I find it interesting that Mr. Van Dyke is such a fan (and advocate) of the platform. I wonder if he runs Linux.

  92. I'd like to see Matt Groenig's desktop by adrianbaugh · · Score: 1

    It's probably a sketchpad though, or a mac.

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  93. Erica Rose Campbell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to stare at her desktop while she gives me head and slaps my cock with her big fat titties.

  94. Mine! by 11223 · · Score: 1
    Mine! I mean, I know it's there somewhere. Just gotta move this window... no wait, that's a bunch of emacs windows, let's see, minimize this, close that, don't need that up there anymore...

    Hits F11 key... Aah yes, so that's what my desktop looks like. I suppose I should change it. I mean, Christmas has been over for a month now.

  95. G. W. Bush by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

    Maybe that is where the hidden weapons in Iraq are ...

    ... or on Tony Blair's desktop

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    1. Re:G. W. Bush by knghtrider · · Score: 1

      Sigh...I wish people would stop saying that there were NO WMD's in Iraq... The whole scenario adds up to one or two factors (or a combination of both).

      1. Bad Intelligence--but I fail to see how *every* major Intel group in the world had the same intelliegence--and it was all bad.

      The more likely scenario is:

      2. Everything is over in Syria.

      It's a well documented FACT that after we announced we were going after Iraq, there were massive movements of trucks, cars, trains--anything that could move--over to Syria.

      Saddam's stuff is most likely all over there. While I doubt he had an enormous stockpile, I'm sure there was enough to wipe out Israel. In effect, he would have probably started the real 'War to End All Wars' because too many Nuclear-Capable countries would have had their noses in it.

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  96. My own by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 5, Funny

    My own desktop. It's so cluttered with icons and documents that I can't see what background looks like anymore.

    Where was that report again? :)

    1. Re:My own by peoria+kid · · Score: 1

      If you are on a Mac and using Panther Hit the F11 key

    2. Re:My own by Hatta · · Score: 1

      That's why I use fluxbox. No icons = no clutter. (In theory anyway :))

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  97. [Tyler] Whose desktop would you like to fight? by Andy+Smith · · Score: 1

    [Narrator] William Shatner.

  98. Easy. by trainsnpep · · Score: 2, Funny
    Darl's.

    I'm willing to bet he's got three folders on the desktop:

    • Unrevealed Legal Shit
    • Legal Shit in Progress
    • Failed Legal Shit

    ...of course, there's no 'Sucessful Legal Shit' anywhere...

    Actually....I think I may have to see my desktop...There are too many windows open...I haven't seen my desktop in a week or so...

    :)

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  99. Fits the pattern. by Lux · · Score: 2, Informative

    * Jr. himself stated that he doesn't read the newspaper.
    Links

    * In his book "Stupid White Men," Michael Moore claims that Bush has cabinet members read their reports to him.

    * Moore also claims that Jr's parents heavily favor illiteracy foundations in their charitable contributions.

    If you can find a link to that report that says Jr doesn't "trust" e-mail, I'd really like to check it out. Googling hasn't turned it up for me.

    1. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anything moore says is suspect as bullshit because has his own agenda, (and the truth isnt it)

    2. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are foundations for "illiteracy?"

      "Hello. See these people? They can read. We need to help them stop reading. Won't you donate today?"

      WTF?

    3. Re:Fits the pattern. by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "In his book "Stupid White Men," Michael Moore claims that Bush has cabinet members read their reports to him."

      Thats really interesting because I have heard the same about A.Hitler. That he was extremely lazy, getting out of bed very late in the day and that he could never be bothered reading anything; his aides read everything to him.

      Apparently he got a lot of mail from ordinary Germans asking advice and such, a sort of "Ask Adolf" if you will.

      There was so much mail that a special Gestapo unit was set up to process it.

      The story goes that this is how A.Hitler got a lot of his ideas from; one (or more?) aide had the thought that euthanasia for old folks was a great idea.

      But how to draw it to Herr Fuhrers attention? So this aide went through the mail till he found things like "Dear Adolph, my dear old grandmama is so old and sick and feeble and we are so poor and hard working. Would you mind if we, uh, 'let' her die with dignity?"

      Finding such letters, he'd present them to the boss and try to make the case for euthanasia. It worked; Hitler thought it was such a good idea that it was implemented nationally.

      This is not apologist; I'm not saying Hitler was an ok kinda guy.

      I'm just pointing out a means by which national leaders who unfortunately happen to be a bit lazy or disenclined to read for themselves can get themselves and those around them In The Poo.

      Always be careful who you let do your thinking for you.

      Now of course, all of this Hitler stuff has long since passed away into the classical mythology of our civilisation, so who knows how much *truth* there is in that anecdote? Or, for that matter, the 'Bush is dyslexic' anecdote that I've also heard?

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    4. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, the "Childhood Cancer Foundation" here in Australia hands out stickers that say "Support childhood cancer".

      Sure, the more of the little buggers that get tumours and die the better, I guess...

    5. Re:Fits the pattern. by Lux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bush, like all modern presidents, has the Secret Service doing the same job of sorting through mail from the public. That's necessary. And I don't think it's odd at all if he has people read stuff to him while he's trying to do something else. If he's really that busy, more power to him.

      But if the cabinet member who wrote the report is sitting there in front of you, and you make him read it aloud, that's a different story alltogether. That is a meeting. You don't have anywhere else to be, or anything else to do until it's over. Oral dictation is much slower than reading, so you're only wasting everybody's time.

      Because it's not about time, it's either about lacking certain skills, or the presence of someone who lacks sufficient discipline to stay on task and absorb the material independently.

      > Always be careful who you let do your thinking for you.

      That's not fair at all. I trust an author to check his facts, so when I cite things put forth in a book as facts, I expect to be taken seriously. I'm no publishing expert, but I understand some publishers employ "fact checkers" to make sure they don't get sued.

      Moore does accuse Bush of being illiterate in that book, but I didn't buy it at the time. It really is kind of far fetched when you only have those two bits of information to go on. I'd even go so far as to say that Moore came off as an ass. But nothing has come out to refute his accusation. Far from it.

      If Jr doesn't "trust" e-mail, I call that a highly suspicious pattern. I can't imagine going without instantaneous, securable, asynchronous global communication, and my life is (hopefully) less demanding. But I'm still waiting on that link.

    6. Re:Fits the pattern. by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      Why should I care what Moore thinks? Practically everything out of the man's mouth is a lie. His own sources usually end up disproving his statements. You're gonna need a better source than that to convince me of anything.

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    7. Re:Fits the pattern. by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Moore does accuse Bush of being illiterate in that book, but I didn't buy it at the time. It really is kind of far fetched when you only have those two bits of information to go on. I'd even go so far as to say that Moore came off as an ass. But nothing has come out to refute his accusation. Far from it.

      You mean aside from the fact that he has a BA from Yale and is the first President with an MBA (Harvard University, 1975)?

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    8. Re:Fits the pattern. by jub · · Score: 1

      Sure, but he had a C average. And it's not like he had to work his way through school or anything.

      Do you really think that a guy with average intelligence or average work ethic should be running the country?

      And he might not have time to read his email, but he sure makes times for those long-ass vacations.

    9. Re:Fits the pattern. by cetialphav · · Score: 1
      If Jr doesn't "trust" e-mail, I call that a highly suspicious pattern. I can't imagine going without instantaneous, securable, asynchronous global communication, and my life is (hopefully) less demanding. But I'm still waiting on that link.

      Surely you are not arguing that mail is a trustworthy communications medium. How many fake paypal, bank, credit card scams are running around now? For the types of communications that a government leader typically engages in, email definitely is not something you can trust. Personally, I live on email, but I also recognize that most people do not depend on it like I do. I don't consider them with any suspicion. Most non-geeks don't truly understand email and they don't know what needs to be done to make it secure. I don't blame the users; I blame the geeks. We should be able to make secure email a no-brainer. But until we do, I don't want my government using it for anything important.

      I would like the leader of the free world to read a paper now and then, though. Hell, at least read the comic strips.

    10. Re:Fits the pattern. by NateTech · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doesn't say much for Harvard or Yale then does it?

      That MBA didn't get him his jobs, his political connections did. (Like most of us.)

      He's run at least one company into the ground before becoming President, which says he wasn't paying much attention at Harvard. (Not to mention he knew he'd still have money even if all of his workers were unemployed.)

      Come to think of it, doesn't say much for the thoughtfulness of the people who voted for him either -- thinking that he was somehow qualified to do the job because his father was.

      His father was a WWII vet, spent decades in Ambassadorships and eventually headed the CIA before becoming President. I can see a lot of reasons to "hire" a person like that for the Presidency.

      His son, on the other hand, slacked off through Yale and Harvard on Grandpa's money, snorted cocaine through much of that process, went AWOL from his Guard unit, ran a successful oil business into the ground... and people adore him more than his dear-old-dad.

      Sad.

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    11. Re:Fits the pattern. by JPriest · · Score: 1

      There is an exam they endure before they take office that tests things like verbal compentency etc. I remember hearing that Bush absolutely bombed it, and that Clinton did pretty well. I don't have a link but I am sure you can find one if you dig.

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    12. Re:Fits the pattern. by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 1
      Sure, but he had a C average.

      ... at Harvard.

      (in the 1970s. Before grade inflation.)


      Also, if you'll note, the parent poster was not claiming that President Bush was a merely average scholar, but that he was probably illiterate.

      and he might not have time to read his email, but he sure makes times for those long-ass vacations.

      He hasn't taken vacations which are significantly longer than any of his predecessors. FDR used to serve from Warm Springs, Georgia for greatly extended periods of time.

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    13. Re:Fits the pattern. by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 1
      There is an exam they endure before they take office that tests things like verbal compentency etc.

      You seem to be having a little difficulty with your own "verbal compentency". Furthermore, do you really believe that the President has to take a civil service exam before being sworn in?

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    14. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he says he reads "Marmaduke" ;)

    15. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bush, like all modern presidents, has the Secret Service doing the same job of sorting through mail from the public.
      Actually, it's the White House Signals Office. They're the people who handle all the mail, phones, networking, etc. for the White House. They're essentially a bunch of modernized switchboard operators.

      I can't imagine going without instantaneous, securable, asynchronous global communication, and my life is (hopefully) less demanding.
      Have you ever heard of voice mail? Most phone services have it now. The President has a variety of secured phone circuits that present a standard phone interface to the user, so he can call anybody anybody in government and leave a message. He replaced emailing the family with secure videophones.

    16. Re:Fits the pattern. by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1

      Finding such letters, he'd present them to the boss and try to make the case for euthanasia. It worked; Hitler thought it was such a good idea that it [euthanasia for old people] was implemented nationally.

      WTF... Never heared about that before. Are you sure about it? Any references?

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    17. Re:Fits the pattern. by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      "WTF... Never heared about that before. Are you sure about it? Any references?"

      Sorry, I have no references to the specific story, thats why I tried to cage it carefully. I'm not claiming its authoratative.

      Sorry.

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    18. Re:Fits the pattern. by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      he damn well should!

      I mean face it, one of the problems we have in democracies is that leaders are NOT selected on any merit other than being able to get people to vote for him.(In Dubyas case that would be his surname, no?)

      Theres no guarantee that an elected president/prime minister isn't going to be an absolute goofball. And thats pretty fucked up for a form of government.

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    19. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Theres no guarantee that an elected president/prime minister isn't going to be an absolute goofball. And thats pretty fucked up for a form of government.

      Actually, there is. It was put in place precisely to prevent this sort of thing. It is called the electoral college...

    20. Re:Fits the pattern. by scmason · · Score: 1

      FDR went to the warm spring because it was supposed to be good for his 'crippling' disease, not to play golf and have sex with horses.

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    21. Re:Fits the pattern. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FDR used to serve from Warm Springs, Georgia for greatly extended periods of time

      because he had serious illnesses. he had to go to summit meetings in a wheelchair.

      dubya also has serious problems. but in his brain.

    22. Re:Fits the pattern. by October_30th · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Thats really interesting because I have heard the same about A.Hitler. That he was extremely lazy, getting out of bed very late in the day

      Indeed and with serious consequences (for the Nazi Germany that is), too.

      The German commanders in Normandy missed their chance of mounting a serious counterattack partly because Hitler a) had assumed direct command of most divisions in the area and b) he was still in bed six hours after the start of the invasion. Field Marshal Rundstedt wished to move the crack 12th SS Panzer and Panzer Lehr divisions towards Caen, but the divisions were in OKW reserve and could not be committed without Hitler's orders. An armored counterattack from Caen area (when the skies were still overcast) could have driven a wedge between the US and British armies and, most importantly, the all important Carentan-Bayeux-Caen road could have been held.

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    23. Re:Fits the pattern. by Lux · · Score: 1

      To what standard do you hold your president for day-to-day communications? Armed messengers with one-time-pads for every communique?

      I'm guessing the president uses conventional phone lines for voice, except in special circumstances. Compared to that, properly encrypted e-mail doesn't look too bad.

      If you have the resources to task an intern with swapping public keys over a secure channel (out of band) with everyone you care to chat with, e-mail can be made quite secure with respect to authenticity, integrity, and privacy.

    24. Re:Fits the pattern. by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      But if the cabinet member who wrote the report is sitting there in front of you, and you make him read it aloud, that's a different story alltogether. That is a meeting. You don't have anywhere else to be, or anything else to do until it's over. Oral dictation is much slower than reading, so you're only wasting everybody's time.

      That depends on how fast a reader your are. Your average 11 year old can read faster then most people can speak, but that doesn't apply to everyone.

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    25. Re:Fits the pattern. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 0, Troll

      " Sure, but he had a C average"

      What was your average at Harvard?

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    26. Re:Fits the pattern. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      "other than being able to get people to vote for him."

      Don't forget that the same people voting for him are the ones that got Family Guy, Dark Angel, FireFly, etc cancled, yet got us a few dozen shows like american kareoke^Widol.

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    27. Re:Fits the pattern. by Krunch · · Score: 1

      That's called democracy. What's the point if everyone can vote but some "testers" can dismiss the winner.

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    28. Re:Fits the pattern. by uberslack · · Score: 1

      The Family Guy was cancelled because Fox did the Time Slot Shuffle with it. The rest of the shows you mentioned got cancelled because they sucked (bad acting, bad script and so-so plot that only Sci-Fi geeks who will watch anything with a Sci-Fi plot would enjoy). American Idol hasn't been cancelled because the general populace loves them some bubblegum pop. blurp blurp. fnord. frop. and all that shit.

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    29. Re:Fits the pattern. by robbkidd · · Score: 1
      I'm guessing the president uses conventional phone lines for voice, except in special circumstances. Compared to that, properly encrypted e-mail doesn't look too bad.

      I'm thinking that the issue is more along the lines of e-mail being auditable.

    30. Re:Fits the pattern. by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      well then maybe the voters are the ones who should be tested?

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    31. Re:Fits the pattern. by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it says something about your argument that you had to go back to the 1940s and find a president who was crippled with post-Polio to find someone whose vacation schedule compares with W.

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  100. British Designers of Beagle by plumserve · · Score: 1

    I think its safe to say they were using an MS variant - this explains why the only feed back they saw from Beagle was a... Blue screen from a red planet - how odd!

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    1. Re:British Designers of Beagle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that's funny. Now get lost, won't you?

  101. OpenBSD; The core of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    see subject.

    1. Re:OpenBSD; The core of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think that Theo runs FVWM with lots of xterms. I remember to have read somewhere that his main desktop is a sun sparcstation 20, or did he use two of those as a desktop?

      Anyway, about the others, look for Hackathon pictures, sometimes you can see what's on the laptop screens. But mostly it's a nice and simple windowmanager, with loads of xterms :)

  102. My own desktop! by GammaTau · · Score: 1

    A few years back when I had JavaScript enabled without any restrictions (like not allowing popups), I often got the feeling that it would be very nice to see my very own desktop instead of windows I hadn't asked for. I still occasionally get the same feeling when some applications suddenly grab all the attention and display warnings like "host foo.com not found". Clicking a dead link hardly warrants attention-grabbing popup warning that appears in a minute or two when I'm probably doing something else on another virtual desktop.

  103. An interesting choice by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The desktop I would like to see more than anyone else's is John Carmack's.

    Of course, since John posts here, I'm hoping that he'd be kind enough to take a screenshot of the current desktop he has, and post it here.

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    1. Re:An interesting choice by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Hmm. Now that you mention it... yeah, Carmack's would be interesting. So would Michael Abrash's.

      But what might be more interesting than a screenie of desktops, would be a list of installed programs -- so we can see what our heroes and anti-heroes use in their day to day computing lives. (Not to mention learning how much useless/unused but still-installed shit they've left hanging around, and how much warez they've collected. ;)

      Myself, I have a number of desktop icons with no function other than decorative effect or historical nostalgia. As to what's installed... [inspects disk contents, runs away screaming]

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    2. Re:An interesting choice by goon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      try here (text description), here (text) and question/answer 1 (also text) on a *retro* '99, slashdot. I remember seeing a picture of carmack long ago (probably quake 2 - that I couldn't find) with a dual monitor LCD setup in a darkened windowless room, back when they where pretty rare. One screen with an editor, the other with a debugger or renderer. The thing I remember most was the ugly pink/red screen - though I reckon this is chosen due to low contrast (easier on the eyes). Nothing there but code.

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    3. Re:An interesting choice by CaptainCheese · · Score: 2, Funny

      a dual monitor LCD setup in a darkened windowless room, back when they where pretty rare.

      Don't be fooled. Darkened, windowless rooms have been about for longer than you think.

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    4. Re:An interesting choice by goon · · Score: 1

      doh! yeah like since cavemen. I meant to say "dual screen LCD's". I write like a doofus sometimes. thanks for the reminder

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  104. RIAA President Hilary Rosen's PC Desktop by Iplaw-dc · · Score: 1

    I'd have to check out her media library in Windows Media Player though.

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  105. Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the Wilson, Hoover, F.D. Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton administrations were just terrible, what with ending WWI, ending WWII, creating the United Nations, establishing Social Security and Medicare, presiding over the greatest economic expansion in the history of the world. They were such tyrants. *cough*

    1. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah and the last one, setting everything up for the worst economy since the great depression

      what a wonderful job that guy did by letting enron go hog wild, oh and setting up for massive layoffss. man that president was the best.

      oh and passing the DMCA, smart move.

    2. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      Aside from the fact that DMCA simply codifies into US law the components of an extensive list of WIPO treaties (which go back over one hundred years), WIPO was ratified by a Republican Congress, the DMCA was written by a Republican Congress and WIPO entered into force in the United States in 2002 during a Republican Congress and a Republican Presidency. The DMCA is distinctly _not_ Clinton's fault, even if he ultimately signed it.

      As far as Enron goes, one word: Harken. 'Nuff said.

    3. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GlobalCrossing? Terry Mcauliffe? $18Mill Glad the Dems are for the working poor.....
      The most corrupt and ethically bankrupt administration in history is the legacy of Slick Willy Blythe.

      But you are a bedwetting liberal, and must constantly troll against a man like President Bush, a man who stands up for America, unlike his predicessor who sold secrets to the Chinese for campaign contributions.

    4. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah...that FDR. What a great president. Let's see. Third day in office, he freaks and uses the Trading With The Enemy Act to close all the banks for a week and seize the gold in US. There was no threat to the US at this time as we were between WWI and WWII. The act was adopted and implemented during the Wilson administration.

      Theres isnt a line in the constitution that allows such an act. Why do you think that the US presided over such an era of economic development. During the late 50's, the US possessed 85% of all the world's gold mined up to that point.

      Do us all a favor and do some research that's outside the scope of a 10th grade Civics class.

    5. Re:Oh nooooo! by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      ... creating the United Nations ...

      You say that like it's a good thing.

      presiding over the greatest economic expansion in the history of the world

      Clinton presided over the biggest investor and consumer rip-off in the history of the world.

      Perhaps you remember this joke:

      1. Start e-Company with catchy name.
      2. ???
      3. PROFIT!

      The #2 is, of course, "2.1 Take millions of investment dollars from investors encouraged by the Clinton administration to invest in the 'information superhighway.' 2.2 Use it to pay company executives millions of dollars. 2.3 Pay the workers minimum wage and stock options. 2.4 Fold the company."

      Note that the Clinton SEC, FBI, and Department of Justice neglected to check up on companies like Enron, MCI-Worldcom, Qwest, and all the dot-coms that ripped off their investors. While they were fucking their customers and their investors, the executives were collecting millions of dollars.

      Most of them got away with it, and retired in little places like Bend, Oregon. A town that doubled in population as the dot-com busts happened. All these 30- to 40-something millionaires moving in with their SUVs and "I 0wn3d j00" attitudes.

      It wasn't until the Bush administration took office that any government agency did anything to stop the corruption. It wasn't the Clinton administration that discovered all the creative accounting practices in big companies, it was during the Bush administration. Despite all the connections people try to draw ("but Cheney owned Enron stock!"/Board of Directors/Took campaign donations/etc.)... well, lots of people owned Enron stock, and MCI stock, and Qwest stock, held positions of influence, etc. Doesn't mean they controlled the puppet strings of the executives and accountants.

      Yes, Bill Clinton presided over the greatest economic expansion in history. And it was fake, based on theft and lies.

      Oh, and some notable Republican administrations include Lincoln and Eisenhower, who ended slavery (and preserved the Union) and created the most effective highway system ever seen, respectively. Oh, and then there is Nixon, who despite Watergate still managed to get us out of Vietnam and bring us the Democratic's beloved EPA. Reagan is notable because he saved us from Carter, not to mention winning the cold war by having the best poker face on record.

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    6. Re:Oh nooooo! by trg83 · · Score: 1
      "...ending WWII..."

      You can't credit someone with ending a war unless you're willing to acknowledge that the war started during his presidency also. If ending a war can be credited to a President, perhaps FDR should also be blamed for starting it? That's ridiculous logic.

    7. Re:Oh nooooo! by Elfan · · Score: 1

      Okay involvement in WWI is a bad thing, Great Depression, Japanese American interiment, Korea, Vietnam, more fun in South East Asia, Kosovo and other smaller military engagements. What was your point again?

    8. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Saved us from Carter?

      The Carter administration had its problems, to say the least, but in economic terms, he left office with real gains in GDP of 14% never experiencing contraction. Reagan left up 25%, with two years of contraction and a tripled national debt. Bush I left up a pathetic 5%--one third the gains of Carter, the last year with contraction and 38% more debt. Together, Reagan and Bush increased the national debt by 430%. Clinton left with an economy having gained 33% and not a single year of contraction, admittedly the debt increased the same as under Bush I, but over twice the time. Nixon-Ford left with a net gain of 14%, with two years of contraction and 56% more debt, compared to Kennedy-Johnson over the same amount of time leaving with gains of 43% with no contraction and only 20% more debt. Roosevelt in nine years managed to leave with an economy 226% larger than that he inheirited from Hoover, who commandeered a 25% contraction.

      Are we seeing a pattern here?

      Even if we credit Reagan and Bush with expansion--they increased the debt by over three trillion dollars in doing it. When Bush left office, the economy was 7.1 trillion. Over the whole of ReaganBush, the economy grew by 38%--by increasing the debt to practically 50% of GDP. Terrific. What an accomplishment.

    9. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My point was that the "Democrats are bad" argument posed by a certain poster was rather unfounded as the Dems have been at the helm during the greatest crises and the greatest economic recoveries. The Republicans have been in power during the greatest political and military clusterfucks and economic contractions...so one could argue that saying "Democrats are bad, we can't afford another one" is simply based in fantasy. Carter had a better economic record than Daddy Bush, for godssake, and he's the Republican's punching bag for economics.

    10. Re:Oh nooooo! by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      Saved us from Carter?

      Yeah. Double-digit inflation did nothing good for the average person trying to make a living, no matter how much GDP increased. I am aware that it wasn't his fault it happened, but he didn't do much to try and correct it, either.

      Are we seeing a pattern here?

      I won't dispute that, but really the debt is less of a problem over time, as long as it doesn't continually increase more than time - inflation bottoms its actual cost. Of course, as you point out, some presidents have a problem with that part.

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    11. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Truman ended WWII because FDR died. Thank God though because otherwise King Franklin I would've had another shot at fucking us up the ass.

    12. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't forget getting us into those wars. Most wars are started by the left.

    13. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      "Kennedy started the Vietnam War." HUH? Farking EISENHOWER got our military into Vietnam for godssake. He's the one who started the whole "Domino Theory" in 1954, creating "South Vietnam." Seventy-five percent of the casualties in the war were suffered under Nixon.

    14. Re:Oh nooooo! by Keck · · Score: 1

      The Republicans have been in power during the greatest political and military clusterfucks and economic contractions.

      Who was in the white house when we got involved in Vietnam and the Korean war? Hint: NOT republicans. Democrats and Republicans like to paint themselves as being very different for campaigning but it's all smoke and mirrors. They're both Plutocrats, which is why Corporations have more and more power today. There are very few actual differences between the parties. Don't look to politicians or political parties to save your country, imho :)

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    15. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason that there are no military clusterfucks during democratic presidencies is because they do not do anything to warrent use of the military. Look at how much happened during clinton's admin (WTC, USS Cole etc) and he did nothing exept say they would find the people that did this. Clinton was handed Osama, but was too busy defending himself for not having sexual relations with that woman; to take him. Bush at least has done something and continues to do something. I don't agree with all his decisions, but he has had more thrown at him in his first term than any president, except maybe Lincoln. I think he has done well and much better than clinton.

    16. Re:Oh nooooo! by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit C10H14N2:

      As far as Enron goes, one word: Harken. 'Nuff said.

      Funny, it's actually Harkonnen who usually comes to mind when I think of this administration...

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    17. Re:Oh nooooo! by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit C10H14N2:

      "Kennedy started the Vietnam War." HUH? Farking EISENHOWER got our military into Vietnam for godssake. He's the one who started the whole "Domino Theory" in 1954, creating "South Vietnam." Seventy-five percent of the casualties in the war were suffered under Nixon.

      In all fairness, it was Wilson who told Ho Chi Minh to bugger off when he asked at Versailles whether self-determination applied to the Indochinese or just to white people. And it was Truman who gave Indochina back to the French after WWII when Ho again came to the U.S. to ask for help. Unfortunately, idiotic and bigoted decisions have been made by presidents from both parties...

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    18. Re:Oh nooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get real, man. Vietnam? Johnson tooks us there; Nixon got us out. Energy crisis? Carter. And the current president has only had to diffuse a crisis with the Chinese over a recon plane, 9/11, an economy in a huge correction to name a few things. I think he's gone well considering he's been tested like no president in the last twenty years.

      And don't forget local government. Davis simply refused to address long standing problems in California because of politics pure and simple. Now he's out.

    19. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      No, they had more flair and a more delicate sense of diplomacy.

    20. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      It was EISENHOWER who got us into Vientam, not Kennedy, and it was Nixon who was responsible for three-quarters of the death and destruction (ok, perhaps we should say it was Kissinger), not Johnson.

      I'm not looking for anyone to save the country, I'm just pointing out who was at the helm during its greatest fuckups.

    21. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      He cruise-missiled Afghanistan... and it's funny you should mention him being too busy with Monica. The Republican attacks came out AGAINST the military action he did take, because it distracted from Monica! Hellllo....

    22. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, "jobless recovery," anyone?

    23. Re:Oh nooooo! by sc88 · · Score: 1

      Can you throw out a URI or 2 on where you got those statistics? They are interesting.

    24. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1
      It takes a bit of work, but,

      The Bureau of Economic Analysis has the GDP history at:
      http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableView.asp?Se lectedTable=5&FirstYear=2001&LastYear=2003&Freq=Qt r


      The national debt figures are kept by the Treasury and can be found here:
      http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opd.htm


      There are some cautionary notes about the figures. Watch out for current dollar and chained figures. If you are comparing the debt to the GDP, do not do so using the chained figures as they may not have used the same [in|de]flation or base year. As a basic yardstick, if they both use the same base year, you're probably OK, but it's still shaky. Using unadjusted figures for comparison over time will yield more accurate results.

      That said, it's worth noting that we've added $20B to the national debt--this month--and since taking office George II has added roughly a $1.5T to the debt, for a total of over $7T. There's this Republican mantra that deficit spending and ballooning the debt don't matter, but the smoke and mirrors of it is that the economic gains they claim can be almost dollar for dollar attributed to their irresponsible borrowing habits like the Yuppie who leverages everything for a new BMW. They claim the Democrats are worse, but the numbers are all there...then of course, they come out saying, "oh, we're all just as bad. That's partisan talk." Oh, piss off guys, no, Republicans ARE worse about this. MUCH worse. When the numbers start getting into 200-300% difference, it's not exactly a point of subtlety.

  106. Re:George Bush's Desktop... by squarefish · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    smart move- I checked it out and sure enough there is a goatse shot in there. unfortunately it's the the only scary item in the shot.

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  107. photo of linus playing on his laptop... by mardoen · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... here (linus torvalds playing frozen bubble at linux.conf.au). and you can get a glimpse of his desktop.

    1. Re:photo of linus playing on his laptop... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      You can get a better look at it if you copy/paste the picture into an editor and balance the gamma up a bit. Umm, what's on the computer to the right?

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    2. Re:photo of linus playing on his laptop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought only lusers used pine...

    3. Re:photo of linus playing on his laptop... by iamroot · · Score: 1

      I did a quick enhancement of that picture. Yes, I know I should have used feather around Linus' head, but whatever. You can see the three screens a little better with the color levels adjusted.

      The left(behind Linus) laptop looks like it has a terminal or something open in the front, and might be running Windows or something configured to look like it.
      Linus' laptop has Frozen Bubble, what looks like the pico editor, and some other stuff. I can't tell what GUI it is, but it's not Windows.
      The one on the right(with the picture of the girl) is running GKrellm, and the guy is either staring at his wallpaper picture or getting ready to run a program.

      Enhanced picture (JPEG 1024x768 107K)

    4. Re:photo of linus playing on his laptop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could only see a hot chic in bikini

    5. Re:photo of linus playing on his laptop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a Fedora. Either FC1 or one of the test releases. You can tell by the distinctive wallpaper with the yellow flower on the right. I suppose he could have copied the wallpaper to another computer, though I doubt it.

  108. Bush Has a Desktop? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    What does it run? Crayon?

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    1. Re:Bush Has a Desktop? by Anepthia · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. . .Bush's desktop runs Scissors.

  109. Unabomber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'd enjoy the irony just as much as seeing what crazy things he had on his desktop.

  110. Bruce Perens! by gunnk · · Score: 1

    ...because he reads Slashdot and might just read this and might just actually POST his desktop where I can see it!

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  111. Farking asshats by Snotnose · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is a perfect Fark photoshop topic. Someone pass it along.

  112. Re:I've been to the White House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We'll just say it was sometime during the sometime during the Bush admin, post 9/11. I was there because the place where I work did designed a small computer system for them. I went as part of a small team for one-on-one user training. On one particular ocassion, I had to show a staffer (a USAF General, mind you) how to use the system. I sat down at the computer(w2k) in his private office and was pretty much flabergasted to find that it was not unlike any other Luser's desktop settings. 15 icons in the system tray(think realplayer, weatherbug, etc), goofy desktop wallpaper, and of course the requisite Internet Explorer home page set to MSN.com.

    I didn't get to see W's desktop, but I bet it looks pretty much the same.

  113. Tubgirl warning do not click grandparent link! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how, exactly, is this Flamebait? Dumb ass mods.

    Because the person who posted it deserves to burn in hell for posting a link to tubgirl.

  114. mine :) by Thiago+Ize · · Score: 1

    How about mine. Hmm, on second thought it might be a little Embarrassing if you look at the code; and yes, it's windows... but I have lots of gnu stuff on it! does that redeem me a little?

  115. None by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Really.. I could care less what sort of a mess their desk, or office is in.

    Why should any normal person care?

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  116. some desktops i'd like to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    steve jobs, linus peter jackson, maybe.

  117. Jobs by Durandal64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a Mac user, I'd be extremely interested to see what third-party system utilities, if any, he has installed on his machine, especially given the apparent hostility Apple has to user-interface modifications.

    1. Re:Jobs by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      Given that he's accustomed to NeXT/OPENstep which didn't allow much (Dock alternatives like Fiend.app), not much I'd guess.

      Probably has a couple of Services installed though, almost certainly one to fill the void left by Webster.app's absence (OmniGroup OmniDictionary perhaps?), but I doubt much beyond that.

      After all, if he likes / wants a program / utility it becomes a part of Mac OS X proper, or an Apple product (e.g., Watson / Sherlock or Concurrence.app / Keynote)

      William

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  118. Donald Erwin Knuth's desktop by mefus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...posting a little late for this discussion:

    DEK's desktop

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  119. Re:Elitist Prick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Issues.

    Of course, I mean you.

  120. Kevin Mitnick's desktop by wheels4u · · Score: 1

    Probably all of Nokia's software in a folder, text files with ICBM launch codes and a picture of his dear computer that passed away during his time in prison.

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    1. Re:Kevin Mitnick's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to take a look at his computer, check out his notes for his new book, see if/what he's been hacking... that kind of

  121. I wanna see by Kahnza · · Score: 1

    Howard Deans desktop. And make sure to mute the audio from his latest motivational speech.

  122. Re:Elitist Prick by dasunt · · Score: 1

    Does RMS use GNU Screen or not?

    I could easily imagine a productive environment based around GNU screen and a terminal-based editor, mail client, news client, and IM client. Throw in something like w3m, and other for images, its good.

    Strike that. In most cases, multi-tasking can be very counterproductive. Shell escapes and $EDITOR_OF_CHOICE is good enough.

  123. Regans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ronald Regans it would be new to me and probably him too.

  124. A match made in heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    George W Bush: Microsoft BoB

  125. Back in high school... by lhpineapple · · Score: 2, Funny

    my friends went on a teacher's computer and took a screenshot of porn set in a Internet Explorer window and set it as the background picture.

    Suffice to say, the teacher had many problems closing the window, even after restart.

    (I'd like to see Darl's desktop. I bet he has underpants gnomes as his background.)

  126. John Carmack, John Romero, or Richard Garriott's by stumbler · · Score: 1

    ... or all three!

  127. you probably don't want to know this... by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 1

    A colleague's (genius stock trader, harvard MBA with honors, etc) Windows desktop would be to me simply unmanageable. He's got two monitors, both at very high resolution, and both completely full of icons. I'm not kidding, he has to have at least 200 icons of programs, folders, files, etc, on his desktop. He has at least 3 add-on Windows macro programs running. I told him I would have no idea how he could work in such an environment, and he said it was "easy once you just assigned the icon in your visual map". Uhh... OK. That's why he's the Harvard MBA honors genius, and I'm a code slave.

    My Windows desktop has 5 icons on it: "My Documents", "My Computer", "Recycle Bin", a shortcut to my "Projects" folder, and a shortcut to "My Music". My "Quick Launch" area shows 4 icons, "Show Desktop", "Mozilla Firebird", Mozilla Thunderbird", and "Lotus Notes 6", with 9 more "often used" shortcuts if you click on the ">>" portion of the "Quick Launch". (SecureCRT, iTunes, QuickTime, Napster, QCD Player, IE, WSAD, Jabber, and my VPN connection tool). I've got 1 application (Calculator, if you must know) "pinned" to my "Start Menu".

    If my desktop starts to accumulate a lot of clutter due to a hectic project, etc, I make a folder called "CURRENT" on the desktop and move it all there. I just can't stand it when I get a second column of desktop icons. It bothers me. I need help.

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  128. Table Oriented by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I want a table-oriented envoronment. I want to be able to query, sort, and filter my view of programs and files how I want when I want. I would then be able to put attributes associated with each item to futher customize my view of stuff. If I want to put a traditional GUI front-end on it all, I can, but am not locked into that because the front end is just a view into the database.

  129. Mine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I haven't gotten down there in a while....

  130. MOD PARENT UP!!! by strike2867 · · Score: 1

    I do not see how a video of the presidents desktop is irrelevant in a discussion on fomous desktops.

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    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second the vote in your sig (-2 Imbecile), and vote for -1 Moron and -3 Idiot as well!

  131. wait wait wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are you saying Jesus wrote Emacs?

  132. A couple of non-standard responses by tcomeau · · Score: 1
    I'd like to see Rodger Doxsey's desktop. I'll have to see if he makes it into the office tomorrow.

    These guys have a cool desktop, if you can call it that.

    Riccardo Giacconi was using a fairly ordinary CDE on Solaris desktop on a beautiful 24 inch wide-screen monitor the last time I saw it, with some very cool galaxy images from the Chandra Deep Field.

    Steven Squyres probably also has an interesting desktop, and I think I saw it on ABC News last week, before they switched to talking about the problems with the rover.

    You can see Asia Carrera's desktop in the background, but it's not safe from work. Looks mundane.

    I wonder if Pheobe has a cool desktop. Not Alyssa Milano, but her character.

    Speaking of fiction, I wonder whether David Kay uses Windows or Mac?

    While I like innovators, I'm more interested in users. They at least try to do useful things. That was the problem with Alan Kay. He always has interesting desktops. He showed squeak at a conference a few years ago that just stunned people, but none of us could figure out what we would actually do with it.

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  133. Re:George Bush's Desktop... by Dirtside · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I'm not clicking any link with the word "goat" in the path.
    Which is too bad, because Goats is one of the best webcomics ever. E.g., Republicans for Voldemort.
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  134. Speculation... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linus Torvalds: Uses blackbox on three monitors, all full of Xterms running vi. The background is a roll of toilet paper, edited in The Gimp to look like a roll of Transmeta, RedHat and VA Linux stock shares.

    Bill Gates: Last night's build of longhorn. Has 5 monitors: one for the PowerPoint slideshow he's rehearsing, one for Outlook, and three for all the extra clocks, sliders, gizmos, icons, etc. that Longhorn puts on the desktop. His background is one of the default WinXP images.

    George W. Bush: Cheney and Rumsfeld won't let him touch the "big kid computers", but he has an Etch-a-Sketch with a caricature of Saddam Hussein sitting on a canister of nerve gas.

    Steve Jobs: 3 21" Apple Cinema displays. Beta build of OSX 10.4 ("Puma"). Only has one icon on the desktop, but damn if it doesn't look *really cool*.

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    1. Re:Speculation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhhh, hate to ruin your party, but I believe Linus uses kde and emacs.

    2. Re:Speculation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10.1 was puma.

    3. Re:Speculation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry I meant "Pussy cat"

    4. Re:Speculation... by knghtrider · · Score: 1

      nawww..Jobs is using the 23" displays..We just got one and a G5 for one of our Graphic Artists. My only beef about Mac's is the fact that everything is proprietary. Sure, it's easier to develop software for it, but it tends to make things more pricey than I like.

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    5. Re:Speculation... by TheInternet · · Score: 1

      My only beef about Mac's is the fact that everything is proprietary.

      I think this comment probably applied more to the previous era of Apple products.

      Today, Apple's machines are built using largely industry-standard parts. A lot of the OS is closed-source, but uses standard protocols in most places where it makes sense. Some big changes on this front took place in Panther (10.3).

      but it tends to make things more pricey than I like

      There's no question Apple could charge less for the things it sells if it didn't have to invest in the invention of them. :)

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  135. Re:Elitist Prick by GooTi · · Score: 1

    Stop imaginating... that's exactly what I use when I leave home. And I know of a few others who do the same.

    There's nothing as comfortable as having the exact same instances of your apps available anywhere you (and an Internet connection) are. And not paying for an expensive laptop, mind you.

    I frequently conclude that GNU Screen is the one of the most useful and undervalued piece of software available today. There are pretty good console apps for just about anything, and this beauty renders them independent of the "viewpoint" and interruption-resistant.

    BTW: mutt, emacs, slrn and centericq are almost all you need to be "online", besides a browser (which, if you are connected back home, you will almost surely have at your disposal locally).

    Also, if you get lucky and get your hands on an X server and a ssh client, you can also check out your emacs window just as you left it on your $display at home. Think of a multi-head enabled X app, speaking compressed-X11 to you, instead of a VNC-ish solution :-)

  136. NO ITS NOT FFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO ITS NOT FFS

  137. Your sig by jesser · · Score: 1

    is cut off.

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  138. Bruce Tognazzini by Grincho · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm very curious to see Bruce "Tog" Tognazzini's, him being an interaction design guru 'n' all. For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing any of the alleged experts' from the Nielson Norman Group.

  139. Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some people only learn well visually.
    Some people only learn well verbally.
    Most people can learn well both ways, usually with a slight preference either way.

    If the preference goes far enough, it's classified as a learning disability, or 'alternate learning style'.

    Given the trouble Bush has with a teleprompter, it's pretty clear he has trouble with visual learning, most likely a visual processing delay. Moore's claims would support his preference for a verbal learning style.

    But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

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    1. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      The president of the most powerful nation in the world should NOT HAVE a learning disability - there must be literally hundreds of thousands of Americans who would be better able to do the job than he.

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    2. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by b17bmbr · · Score: 1

      i just gotta respond here. apparently you have little experieicne in education. i have been a teacher for 8 years, both in junior and senior high school. there are a great many learning "disabilities". in fact, you'd be able to make a case that the majority of students have one or more. the qualifications are so general. now, i happen to think that

      a) alot of them are "normal", i.e. i'm a slower runner, but a fairly good athlete (i played college football, division 2). so, i could be said to have an "athletic disability". stupid? yes. but about the same in application.
      b) it's mostly about the money. sped gets damn near unlimited funds. talk about ed funding, and sped consumes so much. you tax payers should get inside the temple and see where your dollars go.

      back to bush. it is possible that he learns better from hearing. i am the opposite. my wife can tell me anything, and 10 minutes later, i'm like, huh? but i can read tons of history books and remember everything in there. (okay maybe the wife thing is a bad example). i doubt that bush got through yale and harvard if he was dumb. people who hate him have a problem with his single-mindedness. his absolute views. (but re-read aristotle. bush is very much in line with western thought. he believes in truth. anyways...)

      a learning "disability" can take on many things. in fact some of the most intelligent people had learning disabilities. keep in mind the voluminous information he needs to be aware of. could he possibly read it all? i doubt it. now, as for reading papers, i'd put more faith in his agencies then say, the NY Times.

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    3. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Warped1 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      > i have been a teacher for 8 years

      And yet you still haven't mastered capitalization. ;)

    4. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Kinda like how Dan Quayle caught all sorts of flack for having foot-in-mouth disease, but ... if he were a stupid person, Jerry Pournelle (who has worked closely with him, and has zero tolerance for idiots) wouldn't think so highly of him. So what's Quayle's problem? Most likely dyslexia. According to a friend who's been in dyslexia research programs for the past 25 years, Quayle shows typical symptoms.

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    5. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      The president of the most powerful nation in the world should NOT HAVE a learning disability

      Why not? It doesn't mean he's dumb, it means he's not good at delivering written speeches. An actor would be the best president by that measure (OK, Reagan).

      there must be literally hundreds of thousands of Americans who would be better able to do the job than he.

      Heh, yeah, like the two-party system is about getting the most qualified man into the job...

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    6. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      i just gotta respond here. apparently you have little experieicne in education.

      Were you attempting to refute my comment? I don't think there's much argument that Bush has a real functional deficit, so I don't see how your point applies.

      Some people like Moore like to poke fun at it and imply he's unfit for the job based on it, but I think we're in agreement that "disabled" people can be quite capable.

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    7. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by b17bmbr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you said that the president shold not have a learning disability. well, unless he's undergone extensive testing, nobody can make that determination. and if he has a processing deficit, say for written information, that does not impair his intelligence, understanding, or cognitive skills. it means that when he reads something, he perhaps doesn't process it as you or i would. which means maybe he knows this, and has things read to him. which means perhaps he recognizes his own weaknesses, just an idea.(which might explain his oft cited mis-speaks. as someone who sees things like this in the classroom, it is often a sign of processing deficit. of course, he's fair game.) being identified "LD", doesn't mean lack of intelligence. as for michael moore, i would assume that as the "pope of the left", anything he say will be accepted as the word of, er um, i don't know, what would a secularist deity be? he's hardly a source of truth.

      as for bush, i'm very pissed at the expansive spending and growth of gov't. the medicare bill, the immigration thing, and a program for everything. what is he trying to be? pres. gore? i thought he'd cut, not expand gov't. i don't understand the liberal hatred for him. he has offered hundreds of olive branches. name one thing horrible he's done, and you get all kinds of diatribe, and no specifics. about the only thing the current crop of candidates from the democrats can say is that they'd spend even more. the issue has been the war really. and let's face it, if you were opposed to the war, we could find a ton of WMD's, and it still wouldn't matter. bush did not sell the war well, or even right. he simply should have said, "we don't know what he's got, he's not abiding by the UN, and we can't take a chance. he's had them in the past, he's used them, and we know he's tried to get them again. he's had terrorist ties in the past, currently funds hamas, al aqsa, and others, some who have ties to al qaida, he clearly has demonstrataed that while not an immediate threat, left unchecked we can only assume he will be. when that day comes, it will be too late." that's all he needed to say. but there'd be those that even if saddam had wmd's, and al qaida ties, would still say no war.

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    8. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by LilMikey · · Score: 1

      Some people have disabilities and some are just plain dumb.

      Chances are, if you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, allowed to run daddy's companies in the ground, do coke, drive drunk, discard worldwide sympathy and solidarity for a poorly concieved (and even more poorly implemented) preemtive stike policy, and just generally make an ass out of yourself every time your mouth opens... most likely plain old dumb.

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    9. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by dave420 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's OK to pick on people like Bush if they're in a very important job, where his linguistic and logical shortcomings can have a serious impact on the rest of the world.

      He's President. Surely he should be able to pronounce "nuclear", eat pretzels without choking, and not make up words on the spot.

      How can anyone defend such a poor excuse for a politician? Every time he steps up to the podium it looks like an episode of Days of Our Lives gone bad. He can't even read what everyone else has written for him without getting in a state. Pausing every. Two. Seconds. Trying to. Add. Emphasis. Incorrect. ly.

      It doesn't take a genius to realise when someone shouldn't be in office. Even Bush himself admitted he shouldn't be there.

    10. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by __aabvlw4075 · · Score: 1

      You can make fun of someone for their learning disabilities if you are shocked, frustrated, and disappointed that they took over you country, took away many of your civil liberties, started a war that has cost many many innocent lives, clearly and obviously for the natural resources of that country, contiues to lie, lie, lie and somehow still has a loyal base of supporters.

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    11. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      ...clearly and obviously for the natural resources...

      There are many good arguments against the war, but this is not one of them. There has never been one ounce of proof to it, people just repeat it hoping that if they say it enough it will somehow become true. $90B would have bought a whole lot more oil than the US would ever save on oil from post-war Iraq. "No war for oil" is kind of like the pro-war's WMD; Both are a joke. If you want to talk about economic impropriety in the war, kickbacks and cronyism is a far stronger argument.

    12. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by torpor · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites?

      If you are going to "lead the free world" you better be a literate mutherfucker.

      G. Bush is illiterate. He's not qualified to read books to kindergarten kids. He should not be allowed access to weapons of mass destruction...

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    13. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      No, but it's OK to pick on the US president when he isn't capable of doing the job properly, and he isn't. If Bush resigned, people would stop picking on him and he could get the remedial education he so clearly needs.

    14. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Sinterklaas · · Score: 1

      Why not? It doesn't mean he's dumb, it means he's not good at delivering written speeches. An actor would be the best president by that measure (OK, Reagan).

      Bush represents the US government, both nationally and internationally. That means that he should be able to express believable empathy and explain government policy somewhat coherently. I respect the fact that not everyone can give a speech like Clinton or Reagan, but Bush can't even do better than the average Frenchman who tries to speak English. My ears bleed after I hear him utter a few puzzling phrases.

      Other than that, I hate just about every decision his administration has made (or the way they implemented those decisions). The fact that there are no redeeming factors only increases the disgust.

      Heh, yeah, like the two-party system is about getting the most qualified man into the job...

      Indeed. You have the choice between two corrupt parties and the people they nominate. I'm glad that I can choose between multiple parties over here (Holland). There is still plenty to complain about, but at least a newcomer has a chance to threaten the status quo.

    15. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Every time he steps up to the podium ....

      Oh come now. He does a fine job speaking when it involves killing people.

    16. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by orcrist · · Score: 1

      $90B would have bought a whole lot more oil than the US would ever save on oil from post-war Iraq.

      Bush/Cheney apologists keep on repeating this sort of logic as an answer to the "War for Oil" acccusation as if there was ever a claim that Bush & co. were doing it to save the U.S. money. The U.S. spending $90B is not much skin off the backs of Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/etc., especially not after the tax cuts; that's covered by the tax-payers. The profit goes to Bush's buddies.

      -Chris

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    17. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives."

      Don't give me that self-righteous bullshit when you have hypocrites like Rush. Like you guys ever gave a damn about anyone but yourselves. Fucking hypocrites.

    18. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Kirth · · Score: 1
      I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      If they're president of the USA, yes. If they're vice-president , then too.
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    19. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by smallpaul · · Score: 1

      A person who cannot read for himself should not be president because by definition he will have all of his news filtered by his "handlers." They will be the ones really in control of what he thinks and does. Cheney and Rumsfeld had decided Bush's Iraq policy before he knew the difference between Ohio and Idaho to say nothing of Iraq and Iran. It isn't nice to make fun of handicapped people but it is fair to make fun of people who refuse to accept their limitations.

    20. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      Think about it. He's the President... and he cannot place a country on the map until someone tells him to bomb it.

      Have nothing against Presidents (hmm...), and I have only active sympathy for the learning-disabled (I tutor them in maths, usually to good effect), but please.

    21. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on... He is highly educated and by no means dumb. He also has no problem with a teleprompter since his speech after 9/11 is regarded by many historians as the best speech ever given by a US president.

    22. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suppose it was Bush's difficulty in dealing with written information that stopped him learning who the president of India was, or Pakistan?

      You can pretend that Bush is just a genius masquerading as a dimwit all you want, but if he looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, chances are he is a fucking duck.

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    23. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by jackbird · · Score: 1

      and let's face it, if you were opposed to the war, we could find a ton of WMD's, and it still wouldn't matter. bush did not sell the war well, or even right. he simply should have said, "we don't know what he's got, he's not abiding by the UN, and we can't take a chance. he's had them in the past, he's used them, and we know he's tried to get them again. he's had terrorist ties in the past, currently funds hamas, al aqsa, and others, some who have ties to al qaida, he clearly has demonstrataed that while not an immediate threat, left unchecked we can only assume he will be. when that day comes, it will be too late." that's all he needed to say. but there'd be those that even if saddam had wmd's, and al qaida ties, would still say no war.

      The tens of millions of military and civilian deaths in the second world war stand (stood?) as a powerful reminder that the world can no longer work that way. The criteria you list are applicable to many countries (Syria? Iran? Saudi Arabia?), and invading countries based on unilateral self-interest rather than international consensus has a dangerous tendency to widen the conflict (e.g. Poland 1939 or Korea 1950).

      So yes, I say no war in this way no matter what's found. The damage to our nation's interests through lost friends, new enemies, and blown budgets far outweighs neutralizing a nonexistent threat (especially when N. Korea is a hell of a lot scarier). For a counterexample of how such a war can be fought without all these bad consequences, look to Bush I's build-up to Gulf War I.

    24. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your eye on the ball.

      The sole platform of the Republican party is the personal enrichment of the party elite. Everything else is window dressing and vote-getting. That they have apparently succeded in distracting people from this fact for decades constantly amazes me.

    25. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by LoneRanger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Speaking of plain old dumb... Have you look at Mrs. W. Bush lately?

      Seriously, look at a picture, or watch a video of her. Look into her eyes, and you'll see that there is literally nothing behind them. It's almost like you can see right to the back of her skull. I've never seen a person who looked this braindead before.

      It gets really creepy if you look at her for too long.

    26. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Scaba · · Score: 1

      Dubya is perfect for the office. He's there to be the smile and wave that hides the really evil shit Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, et al. are doing. His shit-eatin', down-home, good-natured, goofball smile and general air of cheerful ineptitude plays well with 'just folks', which is why he *almost* won the 2000 election.

    27. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by theghost · · Score: 1

      Since he denies having any actual disabilities, we have to assume he's just a dumbass. It's always ok to make fun of dumbasses.

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    28. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by kisak · · Score: 1
      But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      Ah, you bleeding heart conservatives make me sick. The moron is supposed to take decision that influences literally life and death of thousands and influences the whole worlds military and economic stability now and in many years to come. That Bush has a mental handicap is definitely something that should be made known and discussed. If this serious issue is only noticed by the general public through humor so let that be. It is funny at first then you start thinking about a world leader with no knowledge and who doesn't read the news.

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    29. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by b17bmbr · · Score: 0

      poland 1939, eh? let's see, britain and france could have stopped hitler after he: began rearmament programs, rearmed the rhineland, annexed austria, invaded czechoslovakia. and many times in between. had a pre-emptive strategy been taken , ww2 would have been avoided. lost friends? the french and germans? they have been our allies when? when they needed us. see the SOTU. we have lots of friends. new enemies? like al qaida loved us before? gulf war 1? we screwed that one up specifically because bush sr. would not go after saddam when many said we should. history has proven that one true. the real question is should we sit around and wiat for 9/11 to happen again, with possibly wmd's, or do we take proactive measures. not dealing with the problem, i.e. the 1990's, led to the problems we face today.

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    30. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wake up boy! That's not a TV screen, that's a mirror! (By the way, stop wearing those dresses!)

      Anonymous Kev
      Proudly posting as AC since 1997

    31. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by kisak · · Score: 1
      $90B would have bought a whole lot more oil than the US would ever save on oil from post-war Iraq.

      A huge part of those $90B goes from the pockets of middle class tax-payers and directly into the coffers of Halliburton (and thereby indirectly to Dick Cheney who still pay kickbacks to their man in the White House). And hopefully the oil friends of Bush will have easy access to the biggest oil reserves in the world (i.e. in Iraq) for many years to come, while US soldiers are killed protecting the pipe-lines.

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    32. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You're a very strong woman... Though this would be a traumatic experience that you would never forget, I think that you would be very successful in life.

      -- Senator Dan Quayle telling an 11-year-old girl why he would want her to have the baby if she were raped by her father, 10/18/88 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

      Holy shit! What an asshole!
    33. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by jackbird · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see. With what military? The British force that got whomped at Dunkirk? I agree that Europe collectively sat on its ass, but believe it was precisely because there wasn't a UN-like body with which to legally do something. The League of Nations was a failure at preventing WWII, and the UN was specifically designed to address those failures. It may not do things to your attention span's liking, and it's not 100% effective, but it gets things done. But if you don't like that example (Godwin's law and all that), try the Korean War. Did the North really have to invade? Did the US really need to cross the Yalu? Did a remotely positive outcome result? Should we have invaded Cuba in 1962 to get rid of the WMDs? If China were to claim that the US is an imminent threat to them with our well-documented WMD programs and delivery systems, would they be justified in invading us? Why not? And Clinton was going after Osama in the '90s, and might have gotten him if he had been able to keep it in his pants or at least not get caught.

    34. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by phthisic · · Score: 1

      And you, a person who believes that one can judge intelligence by looking at someone's eyes and who does not, apparently, know how to use correctly the word "literally", you are a rocket scientist, no?

    35. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by LoneRanger · · Score: 1

      Intelligence is often judged first by ones appearence. She has yet to break my initial stereotype. Hence my stereotype, without further information, is correct.

      The use of literally in the method in which I did is a common and often unnoticed mistake. [1] My apologies for not being as studious as you. In my opinion criticizing one's grammar in an online forum is the highest form of pedantery.

      So please sheath your Pedant Broadsword +5 and make a worthwhile point.

      [1] Reference to common mistake about the use of the word "literally".

    36. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by LoneRanger · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry I find that silken panties and luxurious fabrics make me feel pretty. :)

      Perhaps your prod at my (assumed) lifestyle could suggest something more insidious in yours. Hiding something are we? :)

    37. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by japhmi · · Score: 1

      the UN was specifically designed to address those failures. It may not do things to your attention span's liking, and it's not 100% effective, but it gets things done.

      The UN gets things done? That's a news flash.

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    38. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by japhmi · · Score: 1

      Surely he should be able to pronounce "nuclear"

      He can pronounce "nuclear," he just has a North Texas accent, and pronounces it different than you do. Just like I wouldn't expect a president from Boston to pronounce "car" like I do.

      President Carter pronounces it "nook-ee-uh," and he did grad work in nuclear physics.

      http://www.theworld.org/whoknows/nuclear.shtml

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    39. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit bill_mcgonigle:

      But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      I don't make fun of people with Parkinson's disease, but I would not be keen on having one be my surgeon.

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    40. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by b17bmbr · · Score: 1

      if you read shirer's rise and fall of the third reich, at the time, britain and france combined had significantly more military than the germans. in 1935, hitler specifically told his commanders that at the first sign of resistance, back down. that was the impetus the german high staff was waiting for. in 1938, a combined brit/french/czech force could have defeated the nazis. rememebr, the czechs had 20-30 divisions, well trained, and motivataed. the germans couldn't match that. by the time of dunkirk, the germans had had 2 more years rearmament. as for clinton going after osama, mansoor ijaz brokered the deal, and his admin said no, we don't have enough to prosecute him. and gerald posner has written a scathing book about the clinton admin's failures that led to 9/11. (p.s. posner is liberal, and so his book is not some right wing diatribe. he's intellectually honest, unlike the latest screeds from the left. franken, moore, et al.) by the way, there's a million africans in the congo who're glad there's a UN. oh wait, they're slaughtered. good job kofi.

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    41. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit Reziac:

      Kinda like how Dan Quayle caught all sorts of flack for having foot-in-mouth disease, but ... if he were a stupid person, Jerry Pournelle (who has worked closely with him, and has zero tolerance for idiots) wouldn't think so highly of him. So what's Quayle's problem? Most likely dyslexia. According to a friend who's been in dyslexia research programs for the past 25 years, Quayle shows typical symptoms.

      FWIW, I went to school in the same district as Quayle, and there were still a few teachers around when I was there who had taught him. The consensus was that he was not too bright. Now, that's not exactly an authoritative source -- teachers have political views, too. However, public school teachers are also very reluctant to call kids with learning disabilities stupid; it's just not done.

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    42. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      Um, the grandparent post I responded to claimed the war was "obviously about natural resources". Money and taxes, the only things you mention, are not natural resources.

      $90B is not much skin off the backs of Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/etc., especially not after the tax cuts; that's covered by the tax-payers. The profit goes to Bush's buddies.

      Which I alluded in my post, which you didn't bother to read, did you? I'll repeat it here: "If you want to talk about economic impropriety in the war, kickbacks and cronyism is a far stronger argument." So what are you arguing with? You agree with me on that point. But to get that far you'd have to have read one paragraph, but apparently didn't have the attention span to do it.

      Oil has little or nothing to do with it; At most its a medium for kickback contracts, and any commodity would do for that. You don't even debate that point. Contracts and kickbacks do have something to do with it; That is the root issue. "No War for Kickbacks" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, but its much more accurate.

    43. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      A huge part of those $90B... directly into the coffers of Halliburton

      How much, or are you just talking out of your ass? Most of that money goes to mundane things like moving all that equipment halfway around the world. If most of it is kickbacks etc, it will come to light, and if you read my whole post you'd see I mention kickbacks and cronyism as a far more serious problem. But you probably didn't get to that part, as it required reading a whole paragraph.

      And hopefully the oil friends of Bush will have easy access

      Like any other Middle-Eastern country, they can contract with whoever they want. If they aren't allowed to, I'm sure holy hell will be (rightfully) raised about it. In other words, that won't happen; As you say all the oil companies have is hope. With oil-for-food they had a nice guaranteed contract however.

      biggest oil reserves in the world

      They have the second largest, not the largest.

    44. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      What's even more impressive is that the Democrats have done the same thing, and also gotten away with it. Contributors such as Unocal Oil nowadays just cover their bases by contributing to both parties. They don't exactly look like "average Joes" to me.

      Of course, that's why I vote my conscience, and willingly vote for third parties. In the last election, the Green Party and the Libertarian Party actually agreed on something, which is that Bush and Gore were rich corporate elitists. I agree with them. Those two minor parties disagree on pretty much everything else.

    45. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by kisak · · Score: 1
      Like any other Middle-Eastern country, they can contract with whoever they want.

      Oh, they can can they? Or is this how it will be in the near future, you know, just after WMD has been finally found?

      With oil-for-food they had a nice guaranteed contract however.
      Yes, and Saddam could influence who the oil was sold to and in what currencies it was paid (euro), but not what could be bought with the money (UN would make sure of that). Of course, for his own mis-use Saddam could count on the oil sold illegally to Syria and Turkey. Must have pissed off the oil-buddies of Bush a lot not to control all that precious oil.
      They have the second largest, not the largest.

      According to most estimates, Iraq has more oil than Saudia-Arabia. Hard to tell after years of war and mismanagment.

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    46. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by ke4roh · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who actually listens to the President? During the 2004 State of the Union address, he clearly said "nuclear" rather than "nucular". He also said "terror," whereas he used to pronounce it more like "terra." So he has learned something while on the job. Alas, he hasn't learned about international relations or the environment.

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    47. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by __aabvlw4075 · · Score: 1

      But he couldn't get the public to agree to that. He *could* lie about WMD in Iraq, and then get them to pay twice that "to make us safer."

      And I wasn't saying oil was the *only* reason. I just picked that one because it seems like the most obvious. If, as you say, it wouldn't make sense to go to war *just* for the oil, then fine. But that doesn't mean it wasn't ONE of the reasons, in combination with others.

    48. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Well, I'd want to know if said teachers were expressing on-the-spot opinions, or the typically-liberal teacher's viewpoint somewhat after the fact and in light of his political career. As I know Pournelle personally, and how loudly intolerant he is of stupidity or even an *appearance* of stupidity, I'm more inclined to take his opinion of Quayle as reality. After all, they were working together in the space program -- so yes, it WAS rocket science! :)

      Amusing side note: Ol' Dan and I are probably Nth cousins. In our family history book I found a photo of my many-times-great-grandmother Kvale (the Norwegian version of the Anglicised "Quayle") ... and Dan is her spitting image!!

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    49. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So he has trouble with visual learning, but has speach problems as well.... Hm, must be ok at verble learning, just not the practice, and all the hand-waving, that would be him being good at visual expression?

    50. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "poor excuse for a politician"? So he's honest?

    51. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      Oh, they can can they? Or is this how it will be in the near future, you know, just after WMD has been finally found?

      They decided to go with a GSM-based cell phone system, for example, even though it would please the US companies to go with the incompatible US standard. What does WMD (or lack thereof, rather) have to do with anything? This is all an argument about the "No War for Oil" BS. This has nothing to do with "No War for Kickbacks, and Phantom WMD" which incidentally I would agree with, though as usual hindsight is 20/20. You keep changing the argument, rather like SCO. What are you going to bring up next, minimum wage?

      Yes, and Saddam could influence who the oil was sold to and in what currencies it was paid (euro)

      I was talking about the oil companies, not Iraq. Every sale had to be approved by the UN, so ultimately it was they who were in control, not Iraq. Oil companies don't "make" oil, all they want is the cheapest supply of crude, either getting it out of the ground themselves when they can secure mineral rights, or buying crude from nations for as cheap as possible when they can't. I imagine the oil companies involved got sweet deals to reward them for going through the UN, otherwise they wouldn't bother. Half of the oil Iraq sold under the program was to US oil companies (some direct, some through intermediaries). That supplied 8% of US oil imports. So it wasn't a bad deal for them at all.

      Iraq post-war with no more UN sanctions will have a lot more choices than they did under the sanctions. Do you actually think Iraqis are so stupid that they will give away long term mineral rights? They are not stupid, so there is no way that will happen, and the US will have little more influence there than it does in several other countries in the area. The fact that Iraqis have already influenced both the timeline and election plans is a good demonstration they know what they are doing.

      According to most estimates, Iraq has more oil than Saudia-Arabia. Hard to tell after years of war and mismanagment.

      What are you talking about? Go to the OPEC site and see for yourself. Of course it depends who you ask, but I have yet to see anyone say Iraq. Try to provide a link with more credibility than OPEC.

    52. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by kisak · · Score: 1
      They decided to go with a GSM-based cell phone system, for example, even though it would please the US companies to go with the incompatible US standard.

      Even for neo-cons beliving everything can be done their way because they want them to happen, reality of things always catches up. Even if congress members tried to force the US system, the reality is that all the countries around and all the existing infra-structure is using the world standard (d-oh). So, it was not the iraqies democratic rights, just neo-cons again failling in their knowledge of what is happening at the ground.

      The fact that Iraqis have already influenced both the timeline and election plans is a good demonstration they know what they are doing.

      No, they have influence because the Bush adminstration realizes that they have made a mess of it and want out so that they don't loose this years presidential election (which they probably will anyway, you saw it here first). Because of their incompetence the administration has painted themselves into a corner and the shiias leader have the skill to use it to their advantage. This is 101 diplomacy, it is supricing how little the neo-cons knows about diplomacy, it is a very powerful tool.

      What are you talking about? Go to the OPEC site and see for yourself. Of course it depends who you ask, but I have yet to see anyone say Iraq. Try to provide a link with more credibility than OPEC.

      Of known oil resources Saudia-Arabia is number one. But when geologist start guessing who is on top when counting still-not-found resources, then you get different answers, but most agree that Iraq which has not had a properly run oil industry for decades probably is number one, since it not far behind the well run Saudia-Arabia's in known resources before properly survied. Of course, Russia might find new huge oil fields in Siberia, so it is a bit of guess work.

      It is good that you have not fallen for the WMD bullshit. But your blue-sky-view of this adminstrations motives are naive, this administration is far ahead of anything the US has seen before in cynic and dangerous policies.

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    53. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He can pronounce "nuclear," he just has a North Texas accent, and pronounces it different than you do.

      If he says nuk-yoo-lar, then yes, he's pronouncing it differently to the way I do, but he's definitely pronouncing it incorrectly. Your link mentions people who say "cumf-ter-ble", suggesting that it's normal practice to swap letters around, but it's not (and in fact, people don't include the r sound on ter, so they're wrong about that - people are saying cumf-table, which is just skipping over the more awkward part of the word).

    54. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Chances are, if you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, allowed to run daddy's companies in the ground, do coke, drive drunk, discard worldwide sympathy and solidarity for a poorly concieved (and even more poorly implemented) preemtive stike policy, and just generally make an ass out of yourself every time your mouth opens... most likely plain old dumb.

      You don't get through Yale and Harvard Business by being dumb.

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    55. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      You can make fun of someone for their learning disabilities if you are shocked, frustrated, and disappointed...

      Why not just 'make fun' of them for those things? If the arguments are sound there'd be no need for poking fun at his handicap.

      I don't recall FDR presenting the New Deal and the Congressmen standing up and yelling "Cripple!"

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    56. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      If you are going to "lead the free world" you better be a literate mutherfucker.

      You mean "eloquent"? It'd be pretty hard to get through two Ivy Leagues while being illiterate. I know this because my freshman English class kept me from sleeping for two months. :)

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    57. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He can't even read what everyone else has written for him without getting in a state. Pausing every. Two. Seconds. Trying to. Add. Emphasis. Incorrect. ly.

      Yeah, that's the whole point I was trying to make - he's just not good at doing that. He's a poor public speaker.

      It's a shame that people believe the presidency has devolved into being a speech-making functionary. Personally, I'd much prefer somebody of strong moral character in the position, and I really couldn't care less how well he can read a teleprompter. Seems like not so long ago Presidents didn't have to worry about that - oh, right, because we didn't have live telecommunications for the first century and a half of the country.

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    58. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      > I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

      If they're president of the USA, yes. If they're vice-president , then too.


      It's too bad we don't live in the 30's so you could stand by FDR's parade route chanting, "Cripple! Cripple, Cripple!".

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    59. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      A person who cannot read for himself should not be president because by definition he will have all of his news filtered by his "handlers." They will be the ones really in control of what he thinks and does.

      Are you suggesting ANY president has EVER analyzed primary source material for himself instead of having reports written for him?

      Did Clinton do the soil test on the Aspirin factory?

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    60. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      The moron [whitehouse.gov] is supposed to take decision that influences literally life and death of thousands and influences the whole worlds military and economic stability now and in many years to come. That Bush has a mental handicap is definitely something that should be made known and discussed.

      Sure, he's got an issue. But not being polished on a teleprompter isn't likely to get many people killed.

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    61. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by __aabvlw4075 · · Score: 1

      I guess the real point is:

      I feel like he must be extremely stupid, or have a learning disablity, or something. But he's the f*ing president! And a lot of people believe his lies. It seems like he must be retarded, but so many people don't see it.

      Making fun of him for being a dunce is not to put him down, it's a coping mechanism. And I'm sure he's feelings aren't hurt by it.

    62. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by orcrist · · Score: 1

      Oops. I'm not quite sure anymore how I read it like I did. I was tired yesterday. Ignore me.

      -chris

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    63. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by torpor · · Score: 1

      You mean "eloquent"? It'd be pretty hard to get through two Ivy Leagues while being illiterate.

      Yeah, not unless you're George Bush, you mean.

      School, for the rich, aint hard to fake.

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    64. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by TKinias · · Score: 1

      scripsit Reziac:

      Well, I'd want to know if said teachers were expressing on-the-spot opinions, or the typically-liberal teacher's viewpoint somewhat after the fact and in light of his political career. As I know Pournelle personally, and how loudly intolerant he is of stupidity or even an *appearance* of stupidity, I'm more inclined to take his opinion of Quayle as reality. After all, they were working together in the space program -- so yes, it WAS rocket science! :)

      As I said, I can't say to what extent their comments reflected their own political biases. I was in high school at the time, and I don't think I would have picked up on such subtleties... As I think back on it now, it's entirely possible he was a C student not through lack of native intelligence, but through being a discipline problem or just a slacker. I think the teachers would be more indulgent of a kid who had real disabilities than a kid who was just a pain in the arse... Hell, I'm sure not all of my public school teachers would recall me fondly if I ever got into politics...

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    65. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Reziac · · Score: 1

      A lot of kids with some sort of learning glitch are also a problem in the classroom, if only because of frustration. I know one kid with dyslexia who if frustrated far enough, loses his temper and screams at the top of his lungs, even tho otherwise he's a level-headed and reasonably bright person (who can do any math he knows how to do in his head, as if to make up for the reading problems).

      If I ever got into politics, my teachers would all fall down dead of shock :)

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    66. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 1

      It's Cheeney. He's a brain-sucking alien. I'm sure his repeated attempts to brain-suck Dubya are behind all of his health problems.

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    67. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like rhetoric to me.

  140. No, please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tell us how you REALLY feel!

  141. Re:Elitist Prick by Ryan.Merrill · · Score: 1

    No, I just really don't like RMS.

  142. Hugh Hefners by leftie_hater · · Score: 1

    Yep, bet he has some interesting stuff on his desktop.

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    1. Re:Hugh Hefners by GnarlyNome · · Score: 1

      Every Vigara Ad ever sent

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  143. I'm sure he runs Jesux... by ErnstKompressor · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's what all the Christian Hackers use...

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    1. Re:I'm sure he runs Jesux... by fawcett · · Score: 1
      I'm sure he runs Jesux...
      It's what all the Christian Hackers use...
      Apparently, Jesux is the Linux distro that intolerant and homophobic Christian Hackers use. From the Jesux home page:
      What is different about Jesux?
      ...
      # qmail replaces sendmail as the standard MTA (sendmail was written by a prominent homosexual)

      Sendmail, written by a Prominent Homosexual? In league with the Devil, no doubt! No wonder I get all those penis-enlargement ads.

      Also from their home page:
      Also, we are seriously considering changing some fundamental OS features. The idea would be that function calls and features suggesting evil and otherwise pagan ideas would be changed.

      * abort(3)
      * kill(1)
      * references to "daemon"
      God help me.
  144. Mirror anyone? by los+furtive · · Score: 1

    Mirror anyone? If you have pics available I'd be willing host them. Email me at c l a m o t h e @ e s s e n t u s . com

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    1. Re:Mirror anyone? by los+furtive · · Score: 1
      --

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    2. Re:Mirror anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      clamothe@essentus.com

      Man, you are crazy to give your e-mail address like that on /.

      You still have a lot to learn it seems...

    3. Re:Mirror anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a giant penis.

    4. Re:Mirror anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't respond in future - it only encourages them.

  145. Re:Elitist Prick by phr1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm not sure about GNU Screen. He does use that thing where you get virtual terminals by hitting alt-F1, alt-F2, etc. He spends a lot of his time keeping up with email. He doesn't use netnews or IM or w3m which would probably be an even worse productivity sink for him. He uses Rmail (the built-in Emacs mail reader) for email, not a separate client.

    I don't think he feels "too cool to use a window system", but rather just doesn't feel like he needs one for what he does. He's the author of an old Lisp machine window system and has written plenty of X code, so it's not like the idea of a window system is unknown or scary to him.

    Part of his setup's weirdness is because he travels a lot and has limited net access on the road. He does very little online. Instead, if he visits you at your company or university, he'll typically plug his laptop into your ethernet and spend a few minutes downloading his unread email (however many hundred messages that is) into it. Then he unplugs and reads the email offline while going on his way, spooling his replies onto disk. Then at his next stop, he plugs in again, uploads his replies to the old email and downloads new mail that's arrived since the last stop. He usually doesn't use web browsers. If you mail him a URL he should see, he prefers if you send him a text dump of the contents along with it. If he only gets the URL and thinks it's likely to be interesting, he emails it to a special daemon he's set up back home, that retrieves the URL's text contents and dumps it into his next batch of email. Images? What images?

    All in all it actually seems like a pretty practical system, less conducive to wasting time web surfing than what most of us are used to, but he doesn't care about that.

  146. Some "famous" desktops here... by snugge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://unix.se/gallery/folk Dennis Ritchie, Jordan K. Hubbard, Jon "maddog" Hall, Rasmus Lerdorf etc.

  147. I can't post my screenshot because... by r6144 · · Score: 1

    I can't post my screenshot because the background image is copyrighted by some big company, with no strings attached. Too bad :(

  148. I suspect W's desktop by Dracos · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...has the name "Fisher-Price" on it somewhere.

    1. Re:I suspect W's desktop by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...has the name "Fisher-Price" on it somewhere.

      Yeah, like everyone else who runs XP.

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  149. Where's the any key? by Asterax · · Score: 1

    I'd forgotten about George Bush's pet project; breaking as many sections of the Geneva convention as possible. :P

  150. I'd like to see what Darl runs. by dont_stand_so_close_ · · Score: 1

    Probably Windows. Probably a Pirated version.

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  151. George Bush's Desktop by njfuzzy · · Score: 1

    http://www.sjsfalcons.org/images/EtchaSketch.jpg

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  152. Mine by unborn · · Score: 1

    I want to see my desktop. I am blind, you insensitive clod!

  153. What distro?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What distro Linus uses?


    Dude, he wrote the OS. He uses his own distro.

  154. what kind of stupid question is this? by Zed2K · · Score: 1

    What kind of dumb-ass question is this? Who cares? Its about as stupid as asking: "whats your ring tone on your cell phone???"

  155. My own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a desk somewhere under the landfill in my office... might be nice to see the actual top of it someday.

  156. How about mine? by hao2lian · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see mine. Haven't seen it in quite some years, buried underneath all these windows.

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  157. An oldie but a goodie. by twitter · · Score: 1
    Not much of the desktop shows, but I think he's using Netscape.

    Bill Gates shows off his new pet project. I'm sure he does read Slashdot and pays many others to do the same, not that he pays them much. I wonder if he's offshored his trolling division. Steve Barkto was so embarasing AND expensive.

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    1. Re:An oldie but a goodie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Boo-hooo, i'm teh soo smartestest becuase i cann qote some obskure reference to somme incident that happen in fucking 1998 as proof that im teh smartestest!!!1!

      Get a fucking life you worthless loser.

  158. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  159. Use your window manager. by twitter · · Score: 1
    Where was that report again? :)

    It should have it's own desktop. If you make a seperate desktop for each project you are working on, you can spare yourself much hunting. Well labled window blinds in Window Maker, KDE etc, help too. You will never have to hunt for tiny icons again. Ten desktops do it for me and I sit the workspace selector on the side, where it will pop out when I mouse over it.

    How do people function with the single desktop nightmare that Windoze gives them?

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    1. Re:Use your window manager. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Moderators: Please note that "twitter" is a known fanatical psycophant whose obnoxious offtopic rants are legend here on Slashdot. It doesn't matter what the topic is, he'll find a way to scrape in some pointless Microsoft bashing. While nobody expects us to love Microsoft in any way, his particularly tepid style of calling anyone he replies to "troll" or "liar" because he happens to disagree with whatever they're saying is well documented and should not be rewarded. If anything, twitter is the type of person that should not be part of the open source/free software community. He is an anathema to all that is good about free software.

      I'm posting this so that you (the moderator) have some context to consider twitter and not mod him up whenever he posts his filler preformatted rants about installing Knoppix or whatever that unfortunately get him karma every single time and allow him to continue posting his trademark toxic crap (read on) day in and day out. You may consider this a troll - I consider it community service. And I ain't kidding.

      If you're a /. subscriber, I invite you to look through some of his posting history. I guarantee that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that is more "out there" than twitter. You'll also probably notice he's got quite an AC following. Don't just read his posts, make sure you go through the replies.

      For example, in this recent post twitter not only calls the OP a troll but attempts to "tell it like it is" while making some vague argument about "GNU". Yes, if you're confused, you're not alone. The reply (modded +4) proceeds to simply destroy his bogus argument. You will notice he did not reply. This is what some people call "drive-by advocacy". A sort of I'll just leave you with my thoughts here and move on to the next flamebait kind of deal. In fact, he almost never replies because he knows that his fanatical arguments simply do not hold up to any sort of discussion. It's not that he's chosen the wrong cause - he's just going at it in a completely wrong way.

      More? Just read though this post and the subsequent replies. I guess this stands on its own.

      More? Bad spelling in astounding conspiracy theories, more offtopic FUD and uninformed "I'm right, look at me" rants, promptly proven wrong. Worse even, twitter wants to be RMS, apparently (that first one is a winner). I mean, really. You think? FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, offtopic FUD, and more FUD. This guy is like the Monty Python SPAM skit, but with FUD and more FUD instead of canned meat. Amazed

  160. I'm Sure Bush by thelizman · · Score: 1

    ...isn't running an old as MacOS 9 desktop. He's the President - the most powerful man on the planet, leader of the greatest nation on earth. He can at least spring for OS X.

  161. Dean by thelizman · · Score: 1

    The only way Dean could beat Bush is with a baseball bat, and then only on the occasion that every secret service agent suddenly drops dead (you'll be able to tell because their expression will change).

  162. Alan Greenspan by corvus0 · · Score: 0

    (see subject line)

  163. you don't need help, you need subfolders. by twitter · · Score: 1
    If my desktop starts to accumulate a lot of clutter due to a hectic project, etc, I make a folder called "CURRENT" on the desktop

    That's a good start. Chances are that you can organize the common things you do into catagories and make subfolders. I think of it a psuedo program manager and make something like that anytime I'm forced to use one of those painfully obsolete GUI's. HTML indexed files work on any environment and are a good way to organize your work too. It's better to use your own desktop folder or a link to a folder in a non standard location for some marginal improvement in security.

    Your friend is not very clever, he's just working around the limitations of very bad tools he has at his disposal. All that mental efort would better be expened on something else.

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    1. Re:you don't need help, you need subfolders. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Moderators: Please note that "twitter" is a known fanatical psycophant whose obnoxious offtopic rants are legend here on Slashdot. It doesn't matter what the topic is, he'll find a way to scrape in some pointless Microsoft bashing. While nobody expects us to love Microsoft in any way, his particularly tepid style of calling anyone he replies to "troll" or "liar" because he happens to disagree with whatever they're saying is well documented and should not be rewarded. If anything, twitter is the type of person that should not be part of the open source/free software community. He is an anathema to all that is good about free software.

      I'm posting this so that you (the moderator) have some context to consider twitter and not mod him up whenever he posts his filler preformatted rants about installing Knoppix or whatever that unfortunately get him karma every single time and allow him to continue posting his trademark toxic crap (read on) day in and day out. You may consider this a troll - I consider it community service. And I ain't kidding.

      If you're a /. subscriber, I invite you to look through some of his posting history. I guarantee that you'll be hard pressed to find someone that is more "out there" than twitter. You'll also probably notice he's got quite an AC following. Don't just read his posts, make sure you go through the replies.

      For example, in this recent post twitter not only calls the OP a troll but attempts to "tell it like it is" while making some vague argument about "GNU". Yes, if you're confused, you're not alone. The reply (modded +4) proceeds to simply destroy his bogus argument. You will notice he did not reply. This is what some people call "drive-by advocacy". A sort of I'll just leave you with my thoughts here and move on to the next flamebait kind of deal. In fact, he almost never replies because he knows that his fanatical arguments simply do not hold up to any sort of discussion. It's not that he's chosen the wrong cause - he's just going at it in a completely wrong way.

      More? Just read though this post and the subsequent replies. I guess this stands on its own.

      More? Bad spelling in astounding conspiracy theories, more offtopic FUD and uninformed "I'm right, look at me" rants, promptly proven wrong. Worse even, twitter wants to be RMS, apparently (that first one is a winner). I mean, really. You think? FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, offtopic FUD, and more FUD. This guy is like the Monty Python SPAM skit, but with FUD and more FUD instead of canned meat. Amazed

    2. Re:you don't need help, you need subfolders. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your friend is not very clever, he's just working around the limitations of very bad tools he has at his disposal. All that mental efort would better be expened on something else.

      OMG, you are soooo right, "becuase" I can't do that in "Windoze".

  164. Actually... by thelizman · · Score: 1

    ...somewhere I have a picture of Dubya staring at a Dell laptop while seated on Air Force One. Most of the time he's got papers in his hand though. Decision makers tend to prefer hard copies, stacks of paper, et al.

  165. Mine too... by Tom7 · · Score: 1

    My desktop has been covered in piles of papers and books for years.

  166. Blah Blah Blah by thelizman · · Score: 1

    I don't recall the rest of the world having a problem with him either. Lets see, the French, Russians, Chinese, Germans, and Libyans, Czechs, Swedes, and Japanese all sold Saddam Hussein military and technical hardware over the past thirty years, but oh yes...it's the US that "kept" him in power. Just get your braindead tattoo on your forehead and save us all the trouble of disecting your logic.

    1. Re:Blah Blah Blah by Malcontent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      " I don't recall the rest of the world having a problem with him either."

      The UN drafted a resolution to condemn the chemical attacks, the US (Reagan administration) blocked it. It never even got to a vote.

      "Lets see, the French, Russians, Chinese, Germans, and Libyans, Czechs, Swedes, and Japanese all sold Saddam Hussein military and technical hardware over the past thirty years, but oh yes...it's the US that "kept" him in power."

      I am sure the libyans sold him some AKA47s or something and maybe the russians sold him a tank or two. We provided him with knowhow and chemicals so he could manufacture chemical weapons. We provided him with intelligence and sattelite imagery so that he could kill as many people as possible using those weapons. Of course we also paid him lots of money too.

      Sure the libyans, russians chinese also helped him but we helped him more. You know what that means? That means that the US no better then them. Are you proud of that? Are you proud that the US is no better then the libyans? You sure seem to be. Are your standards for your country that low? You really think that because Libya helped a brutal and savage person like saddam it was OK for us to do it too? I hold America up to a higher standard then china, libya and communist russia, apparently you don't.

      Ok Lets sum it up. The US actually helped a tyrant and a brutal dictator stay in power by providing him with money, intelligence, technology and chemicals. This went on the entire time Reagan Bush was in office. So don't give me any bullshit about how democrats are soft on tyrants.

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    2. Re:Blah Blah Blah by thelizman · · Score: 1

      The UN drafted a resolution to condemn the chemical attacks, the US (Reagan administration) blocked it. It never even got to a vote.


      That's because the resolution drafted made scant mention of Iraq, and spend most of the time discussing Israel. The US then went on to support a resolution condemning Iraq and calling on them to observe the 1925 treaty.

      Sure the libyans, russians chinese also helped him but we helped him more.


      You are really lame. In that whole uneducated rant, you manage fail to actually provide substance. Heck, you don't even address the French and German Nuclear technical assistance, including the sale of EIMS and Gas Centrifuge technology by Karl Hienz Schaab that gave Iraq a leg up in uranium weaponization. Lets not forget the Tammuz reactor (aka Osiraq) which the French built for Iraq (and the Israeli's later bombed). The Russians were still selling him surplus jamming equipment as the war was impending. Speaking of hte soviets - the vast majority of the Iraqi inventory was made of soviet armor, soviet artillery pieces, soviety weaponry, and soviet aircraft. In fact, the only country which sold/gave Iraq more aircraft than Russia was France.

      Your anti-American stupidity is stunning. Get an education, and stop believing everything your leftwit buddies tell you.
    3. Re:Blah Blah Blah by Malcontent · · Score: 1

      'That's because the resolution drafted made scant mention of Iraq"

      Except for the fact that it was condemning iraq for launching chemical warfare.

      " Heck, you don't even address the French and German Nuclear technical assistance, including the sale of EIMS and Gas Centrifuge technology by Karl Hienz Schaab that gave Iraq"

      Nonsense. I addressed the fact that other nations helped iraq. That makes them evil. I also addressed the fact the US helped iraq. That makes US evil. You get it now? Everybody who helped a brutal dictator launch chemical attacks is EVIL.

      the US is no better then libya, communist china, communist russia, germany or france.

      They all sold him weapons, we sold him chemicals, knowhow and intelligence. I'd say we were more help to saddam then any of them perhaps all of them combined.

      "Get an education, and stop believing everything your leftwit buddies tell you."

      Coming from a brainless fascist nazi that's rich. Maybe Rush was hallucinating when he gave you your marching orders ever think of that?

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    4. Re:Blah Blah Blah by thelizman · · Score: 1

      Typical disconnected troll. Even after demonstrating the psychological disconnect, you refuse to see how your anti-American bias taints your credibility. Then you call me a "fascist nazi" (can you spell redundant?) as your penultimate conviction of my character, which amounts to "you get your marching orders from Rush Limbaugh" I don't suppose you could get any more pathetic can you?

    5. Re:Blah Blah Blah by Malcontent · · Score: 1

      You are mindless. You are a facist. You are a nazi. There is a difference between a nazi and a facist but apparently you don't know the difference.

      people like you are followers. They don't think. They just listen to Rush or Bill or whever is sprouting most hate today against homosexuals, hippies, democrats, arabs, muslims or whoever your hated group today is and nod their head saying AMEN BROTHER.

      I'll say it again because you are too stupid to understand it the first time.

      Anybody who helps an evil dictator commit mass murder is evil. Got that? Anybody, even America. You don't get a pass just because you are an american.

      BTW I don't hate America despite what Ann Coulter told you. I hate you, I hate the half of America that thinks like you. I hate anybody who uses the power and greatness of America for evil purposes.

      In a nutshell that's you and this administration. People who take the greatness of America and use for evil purposes.

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    6. Re:Blah Blah Blah by thelizman · · Score: 1

      The ultimate arrogance is that you pretend to know how I think. You, who patently spouts the propaganda you've been spoon fed.

      For the record, if you knew half of what you think you know, you'd know that Nazism is an ideaology, fascism is a system of governance. Nazism relies of fascism. No wonder you can't use them correctly in a sentence. How do you actually expect anyone to take your mindless blathering seriously when you don't even know what you're talking about, troll-boy?

    7. Re:Blah Blah Blah by Malcontent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Thank you for agreeing with me that nazism and fascism are the same thing. You are both a nazi and a fascist. BTW it is possible to have one without the other despite your ignorant remarks to the contrary.

      " The ultimate arrogance is that you pretend to know how I think"

      I know what you think because I read your words. Your words tell me that you are mindless brownshirt follower. When the time comes to round up people like me and take them to the concentration camps Ashcroft will rely on people like you drive the buses and spy on your neighbors.

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  167. My own! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My desktop is so cluttered with papers, I can't even find my keyboard or mouse sometimes.

    Now how can I click that Preview button?

  168. JPL mission specialists by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Watching the flight control specialists lately has made me wish the NASA channel didn't come in so fuzzy on my cable system.

    I'd really like to see some of those specialist's screens up close. They look like X desktops. The fact that they are the desktops for roles where lives and billions of dollars are at stake makes them interesting.

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  169. i wish by SirExar · · Score: 1

    I will slashdot could pull that off, it would pretty cool to actually see all the weird crap torvald's has.

  170. Obviously... by virtualspirit · · Score: 1

    Comboy Neal's!!!

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  171. Bill gates Desktop no question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I also want ethereal on it.

  172. not surprising by binarybum · · Score: 1
    huh,

    it seems Bill's looks an awful lot like my windows desktop.

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  173. George Bush's Desktop by Bruha · · Score: 1

    Seriously it's wood. The man does not use Email or a Cell phone. He lets all his aides handle the techy stuff for him. He's more comfortable with a regular phone and letters. By far the most non tech president I've ever heard of.

    Bush "Ma what's this nifty red phone for?"

  174. Re:Elitist Prick by Pete · · Score: 1
    dasunt:
    I could easily imagine a productive environment based around GNU screen and a terminal-based editor, mail client, news client, and IM client. Throw in something like w3m, and other for images, its good.

    Yup, that's pretty close to the way I've worked for most of the last year or two. For me it's screen, of course, along with:

    • editor - vim,
    • mail client - mutt,
    • news client - tin,
    • web client(s) - a combination of w3m, lynx, and wget for most downloading tasks,
    • spreadsheet - sc, which is surprisingly useful,
    • P2P client - mutella, though I think there are console options for other protocols,
    • IM/IRC client - irssi along with the fantastic bitlbee (and if you haven't heard of bitlbee before, take a look).

    ...and then I use good 'ol ratpoison for my window manager in X for the occasions that I need graphics (ie. some web browsing, viewing PDFs, playing graphical games).

    Strike that. In most cases, multi-tasking can be very counterproductive. Shell escapes and $EDITOR_OF_CHOICE is good enough.

    It varies :-), though I agree generally speaking. I'm using KDE3.2beta at the moment for a bit of a change, though most of the action is still inside my screen(1) terminal(s). You do tend to (or at least I tend to) find yourself more productive when you don't have stray graphical bits and pieces around the place to distract you.

    Of course if you need the GUI for your normal working environment (ie. you're developing a GUI app), then, well there's not much you can do but live with it. :)

    Pete.
  175. Bills confidence building gesture by jeoin · · Score: 1

    Mr Gates this quesition presents a great chance for you to reveal your slashdot user id and fess up to running linux for your webservers..

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  176. Re:Alan Cooper-bondage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about Jeff "It's all the programmer's fault" Raskin? Whips and chains. Have a desktop of geeks in S&M bondage.

  177. Dubya by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    George W. Bush.

    Sorry, I just couldn't resist. It's the winner of the animated category.

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    My .02,
    Limekiller
  178. What about the "real" desktop? by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

    Seriously... what do these people have on their primary work desks, and in the drawers?

    Does RMS have a glass pipe and a couple of buds in the top drawer?

    Does ESR have a pistol in the bottom side drawer?

    Does G.W. Bush have a golden pen that's dedicated to the veto, but never been used?

    What kind of desk configuration do they prefer? Something like the extravagant desk of the Oval Office, to something simple and effective, like my $50 U-put-it-together computer desk?

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    "Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
  179. one of the smartest people alive-Big Al. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or Albert Einstein's desktop. Everything would be relative.

  180. Re:fp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here you can see Bush's desktop in the background :
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/images/400- P24 358-01a.jpg

  181. Easy by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    Bjork.

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    My .02,
    Limekiller
  182. Mine...This joke for pyre. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week."

    I'll be out of town that week.

  183. OpenGL Desktop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why mine of course. But I'm running most of mine out of CVS so EVAS and some of the new stuff that Keith Packard's working with. Throw in some OpenGL 3D desktop fun (seen that SUN demo?) and I'm just having too much fun. I love Open source.

  184. Re:wow by jedir0x · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Fuck you. Anyone that says they are not interested in what "famous" people's machines look like are complete liars. A person's desktop tells a lot about them. I'm sure Linus has a bunch of system monitoring stuff, ie gkrellm. Bill gates prolly has the same, but it always GPFs, crashes, and burns. So he has to re-install MS office.

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    I'm not drunk, I'm just in touch with pi.
  185. sux2bu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I just sshed to root@127.0.0.1, put in your root password, and typed rm -rf / and will hit enter as soon as this is posted. You've got that long to pull your cord or your hard disk and files will have been your hard disk and files, but not no more!

    Eat that, douchebag!

    1. Re:sux2bu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you stupid, trolling, flaming, trying to be funny or some bizarre combo of all four?

    2. Re:sux2bu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no it's you

  186. mod parent up by Artifex · · Score: 1

    I wasn't trying to suggest people actually use standard mini-itx boards, but it certainly would serve as an eye opener to see that you could easily and cheaply get something similar (or "better") off-the-shelf.

    As far as 386s go, I'm still excited over what the Soviets did in the 70s with the Venus missions, which were covered here recently. If they could get those pictures back then, the upcoming European Venus projects should be quite exciting.

    Out of curiosity, how hard is it to learn vxWorks? :) Any books that you can recommend?

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    Get off my launchpad!
    1. Re:mod parent up by techiemac · · Score: 1

      VXWorks is an embedded OS. WindRiver (the makers of VXWorks) offers training but it's pretty $$$. If you go to college or have an employer that would foot the bill, all the better. Search around for VXWorks or Tornado (the development environment for VXWorks). I would also say that embedded Linux might be making waves on the mission systems end but probably not real time control apps as it's not a RTOS (Real Time Operating Systems).
      A good quick into to programming for embedded systems is Oreilly's "Programming Embedded Systems in C and C++". You might also want to learn assembly if you don't already know it. I had a professor in college that said we would never have to use it but sometimes you do need it! Don't worry, it's just yet another language.
      Get familiar with processor archectecture (i.e. differences between Big Endian/Little Endian, RISC vs CISC, registers, etc). Even if you don't have to get as deep as the processor level, it still helps to understand the constraints. I, personally, think it's fun to work around embedded constraints when given the oppertunity.
      As for VXWorks, it's yet another OS. You don't have anything like a command line or a Windows manager (though you can put it in). Think of embedded OSs as Lego... ya gotta build it yourself.
      If you want a little embedded OS training, download something like TRON. Unfortunatly VXWorks costs a lot of money. Try to also get some hardware to run it on, as that's half the fun of embedded OS programming. As for me, I was lucky, I went to work for an embedded systems company right out of college (Lucent AccessPoint 450/1000 series IP Servieces Routers) so my training was on the Job.

  187. Donald Knuth's desktop by brendano · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can see Donald knuth's fvwm desktop and also his fvwm2rc on the bottom of this page

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    -Brendan
  188. You know Bills got K++ on his desktop by Evets · · Score: 1

    and it's a dual boot system with Redhat on the boot menu. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't upgraded yet to Office XP either :)

  189. Bush by zoeblade · · Score: 1

    Um, isn't Bush illiterate? (Stupid White Men has fairly convincing points with regards to this). I'm guessing that'd inherently make em computer illiterate too, as even GUIs use a lot of words once you're in the programs. So I'm guessing ey doesn't use word processors or anything.

  190. Re:Neal Stephenson - Fountain Pen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then what does his backyard look like, or does he just sneak out late at night, prowling around the UW campus, Green Lake or Gas Works parks, netting a Canadian Goose here or there to pluck out a couple of wing primary feathers to keep his quill supply full?

  191. Ben Larden' s Desktop by deconvolution · · Score: 1

    Did he agree to EULA?

  192. The scientists are using a Java program by phunkhy · · Score: 1
    Have a look at this interview with James Gosling. You can even download the software and explore it by yourself.

    OK OK OK - it's not the dev tools but it's something they are really using.

    Greetz

  193. Dubya vs. JFK ;P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know, JFK read something like six newspapers every morning and he was President in times arguably more perilous than these (IMHO, impending nuclear doom trumps car-bombing terrorists in the "world peril" department, but, that's a value judgement, take it for what its worth).

  194. SteveBallmer's desktop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I really would like to see SteveB's computer working. I wonder if he got someone there to write him a natty aphorism-generating engine that runs sort of like motd (even better, just use the motd engine ported to Windows, but a different database, of course, perhaps with some Bayesian word selection generations), along with some sort of flash-based stick figure animation generator, so he can work on his routines. Probably has a rotating background generator that makes those promotional posters and their witty aphorisms that we've all seen for things like "Teamwork", "Security", "Innovate or Die", and "Extend and Embrace".

    Or maybe his desktop background is simply that of the embedded webcam on his laptop popping pictures every 5 minutes of his face (face-recognition software lets it know when its master is not there), along with a moving MSFT stock ticker chart with trend analysis, a couple of projected stock trajectories, and where his 1-billion share stop-loss order is at.

    Maybe it's got a little WMP video showing Chris Farley's motivational speaker loop from his SNL days, but of course ending before the heart attack as well as a loop of the hypnotist from "Office Space"...which leads to the next question: what is SteveB's trigger phrase?

    The other app is probably just an Access-based app that he can edit about 10 text boxes and pump out new PowerPoint presentations, and an Excel spreadsheet to pump out new quarterly reports for the various people he meets regarding MSFT's stock price.

    Howard Dean really needs to watch SteveB's various speeches before he does another hypermanic speech.

    1. Re:SteveBallmer's desktop... by Cackmobile · · Score: 5, Funny

      i reckon he'd have a smithers style startup screen. Naked bill gates saying 'you are good at turning me on'

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  195. Easy: World Bank President, James D. Wolfensohn by torpor · · Score: 1

    He can tell me more about the world than Bill Gates or Steve Jobs can, and in the right places, too.

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    ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
  196. /.ed: some mirrors by falonaj · · Score: 1

    The page the parent poster linked is already slashdotted. Fortunately, some sites have copied the screenshot: http://www.beotop.com/ananasshow/images/warwizard. jpg http://www.rockcitynews.com/photos3/antibushwar5/i mages/WarWizard.gif http://www.sheffieldagainstwar.org.uk/.static/imag es/5295088006/c-warwizard.jpg

  197. CowboyNeal's desktop of course. by DocSnyder · · Score: 3, Funny
    Whose Desktop Would You Most Like To See:

    (_) Bill Gates
    (_) Linus Torvalds
    (_) George W. Bush
    (_) Darl McBride
    (_) Richard M. Stallman
    (_) The Pope
    (_) CowboyNeal

    I bet CowboyNeal would win. ;)

    1. Re:CowboyNeal's desktop of course. by zendal · · Score: 1

      I second the motion to have a poll on this matter.
      The winner's dekstop will be displayed on /. Not a screenshot though but a actual picture of there setup so we know about the monitors and machines and such.

  198. Mirrors of that screenshot (proper links) by falonaj · · Score: 1

    The page the parent poster linked is already slashdotted. Fortunately, some sites have copied the screenshot.

    Sorry for reposting, these are the correct links:
    Mirror 1
    Mirror 2
    Mirror 3

  199. Please don't follow the original link to the image by thirtyfootscrew · · Score: 1

    Hello, Thanks for posting the link to my image, unfortunately it blew the bandwidth on my site! I'm also very thankful to all who have mirrored the image, cheers guys - you've kept the image going when I could not. I'm trying to get my site re-enabled now (without the image) but if the requests are breaking the server the hosts will switch it off again. Thanks, Thirtyfootscrew.

  200. Asia Carrera's one by Krunch · · Score: 2, Informative

    She plays UT and occasionally hosts LAN parties. A LAN party with a porn start. What could be better ?

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    No GNU has been Hurd during the making of this comment.
    1. Re:Asia Carrera's one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A LAN party with a porn start. What could be better ?"

      If you don't know, I feel a great deal of sympathy for you. ;-)

    2. Re:Asia Carrera's one by haloinreverse · · Score: 1

      A LAN party? with a lot of collisions?

    3. Re:Asia Carrera's one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A LAN party with a porn start. What could be better ? "

      uhmmm...HAVING LOTS OF SEX WITH A PORN STAR!... ...duh.

  201. Bill Clinton by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just KNOW he gets the best pr0n!

    LK

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    "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  202. Best debunked? by GQuon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Best debunked? Really?

    I think this is a debate about the amount of destruction.

    The GSA didn't find much damage to the offices and utilities themselves.
    But did they fan through paper trays and listen to all the voicemail themselves?
    The Post says there was no "wholesale" destruction, that doesn't exclude some pranks.

    It's not like they burned down the White House or caused millions of USD damage. From the BBC story, I think they could just put those W keys back in the keyboards.
    Office pranks. Actually quite funny.

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    Irene KHAAAAAAN!
    1. Re:Best debunked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The GSA specifically found that the "W" thing was a lie. And Ari Fleischer claimed that Clinton staffers had defecated in offices, which the GSA found to be a lie. So, yes, it's actually pretty damned well debunked.

  203. Bill Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bill doesn't even use a computer. I check his email for him...

  204. Wow man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You wrote all that and you didn't even get a single mod up.

    Sad.

  205. Ackbar by nycsubway · · Score: 2, Funny

    My man! also, the squirrel with big nuts, the mustard guy, domo-kun, the masturbating kittens, chirtopher walken, and will wheaton!

    It's a trap!

  206. longest presidential vacation in 32 years by jub · · Score: 3, Informative

    wow, that took all of .45 seconds to google:

    longest presidential vacation in 32 years

    let's see what another .19 seconds gets us:

    Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. ...and, as others have pointed out, FDR was physically sick.

  207. Screenshots already there by FePe · · Score: 2, Informative

    I haven't read the whole discussion, so I'm not sure if it has been said already. Once I found a webpage for a Swedish LUG, I think, that hosted some 15 screenshots of famous Linux persons' desktops, including Brian Kernighan and Richard Stallman as far as I remember. If anyone can find it, please post it here.

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    "Until you do what you believe in, how do you know whether you believe in it or not?" -- Leo Tolstoy
    1. Re:Screenshots already there by 74nova · · Score: 1

      look up a bit, it was posted earlier. im too lazy to find it for you.

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      use your turn signal! you people act like it's divulging information to the enemy
  208. Linus's Tools by beforewisdom · · Score: 1
    I read an article on the web a while back along these lines.

    I remember Linus Torvalds being quoted as saying that he used microemacs( he thought GNU & XEmacs were ridiculously bloated for editors ) and many, many xterms.

    Its the internet, so take it with a grain of salt

    Steve

  209. The BETT and Video Games by OH-58aKiowa · · Score: 1

    I read that the Beady Eyed Texas Twit spends his days working out, napping and playing video games. That's when he isn't 'working' by travelling around the country meeting his supporters and having dissidents blocked off from his sight. Back to the video games: any ideas? Think he can work through all of the solitaire games in four years? Or is 'Railroad Tycoon' a better match? I'd suggest RT but only if a lot of advisors helped him out.

  210. Overview (with pics) by dbretton · · Score: 0

    Linus' Desktop: here

    Bill's Desktop: here

    GW's Desktop: here

  211. Mod this down -1 Ignorant Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blabbering fool needs to learn to stop trolling

    1. Re:Mod this down -1 Ignorant Troll by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      Yeah, mod me down because the AC tells you to!

      No login, no cred.

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      That was classic intercourse!
  212. I love MJ but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that had me ROTFL!!!

  213. Re:Elitist Prick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What the fuck man... what an elitist prick, RMS that is. Is he that in love with his beloved EMACS that he is "too cool" to use a window system? Jesus Christ, get with the times RMS. I can understand using something other than Windows, but to NOT use a Window System at all, it just seems like he is maybe too afraid to advance to the window age. Obviously, the window system is accepted by the masses and it has its advantages over the old text mode system. Get with the times RMS. And if anyone sees him tell him to fuck off."

    Amazing how you think everyone should see things exactly the way you do, and act only as you desire. No creativity. No ingenuity. No regard to the man's productivity. No regard to personal liberty, and his promotion thereof.

    You wonder who the "Elitis Prick" is.

  214. Mod the parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod the parent up!

    Indeed he is out of touch with dissenting voices.

    Look at his state of the union address! "The few who oppose" ... blah

    Really out of touch

  215. Re:Elitist Prick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's written a compiler, debugger, editor and other assorted programs used by millions of people each day. He started a movement that has changed the world.

    What have you done?

  216. VI / Windows Confusion by duck_prime · · Score: 1
    Just the fact that GUIs exist doesn't make text mode programs completely obsolete.
    Certainly true, but there can be mishaps if you mix the two. When using vi, hitting the ESC key is a good thing. Nothing bad will ever happen to you. You pop back into navigate mode and can take stock of the situation.hhhhhoh crap.

    Heaven help you, though, if you have the wrong window in focus. Many Windows programs do Bad Things (like closing windows or dialogs) when receiving ESC.

    You always know who are the Unix guys in the office, because they're the ones sitting at the Windows machines, who every once in a while will reflexively hit ESC 5 or 6 times just to feel better. They can't help it.
  217. Really? W's seemed to be missing. by GQuon · · Score: 1
    The GSA specifically found that the "W" thing was a lie.

    Really? The quote I've hear repeated from the GSA is:"the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

    This this FAIR follow-up states:
    That leaves little more than "inoperable keyboards"-- i.e., missing W's-- and handmade signs poking fun at Bush-- what Fleischer calls "graffiti." Those stories were long ago confirmed by Democrats and were never described as "vandalism" or "looting" in the media-- including on Fox. To portray them as some kind of retroactive corroboration for the fevered stories about "the trashing of the White House" stretches credulity.
    I think I'll let this article stand as my last link on this matter.
    "My sense is there probably was some phones pulled, or whatever; I don't have a way to determine that," Mr. Ungar said, referring to accounts that office lines had been cut. "But there wasn't indication of real, significant, widespread damage."
    The white house staff left some pranks, mess and some things missing, but the pundits blew it out of proportion.

    But I replied to this: The missing W key story is one of the best debunked lies of this administration. Which is an impressive feat.
    If this is the best debunked story, you Americans are pretty starved of debunkings.

    P.S. I'm neither Democrat nor Republican. I don't like lying and spin; from either side.
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    Irene KHAAAAAAN!
  218. Bill Gates' Desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding Bill's main home kit...

    He uses a fairly recent Alienware box. I don't know the exact model. There are three Nokia Multigraph 447X monitors hooked up to it. It runs (naturally) Windows XP Professional.

  219. Re:Elitist Prick by acsinc · · Score: 1

    you seem to know his system pretty well... should he be concerned by this?

  220. Kevin Mitnick (beware of troll) by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

    Oh wait, he can't use a computer!

    <nelson laugh>ha haa</nelson laugh>

  221. Except that by phorm · · Score: 1

    If you primarily used a competing product, you might get a sense for that product but you would lose a sense of your own. That way, you try to emulate the good things in competing product Y while not fixing up the really bad things in your own product X.

  222. That wasn't RMS by Nailer · · Score: 1

    That was Jesus.

    He just thinks he's RMS.

  223. thanks! by twitter · · Score: 1
    An obnoxious AC looked up a very good link for me as a flame:

    Boo-hooo, i'm teh soo smartestest becuase i cann qote some obskure reference to somme incident that happen in fucking 1998 as proof that im teh smartestest!!!1! Get a fucking life you worthless loser.

    That was real sweet and deserves to be elevated from it's AC 0 rating. It's a story everyone should know along with Microsoft's other PR gaffs, like forging letters to Congress criters, the apple switcher and other nice fat lies.

    It never ceases to amaze me how much time people waste on flames like that. Keep it comming, your time must be paid for but mine is free. You can't be paid much and you're not worth it but I'm happy you are wasting money that could be spent really harming free software.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It never ceases to amaze me how much time people waste on flames like that.

      It never ceases to amaze me how much time you spend on this crap twit.

      Keep it comming, your time must be paid for but mine is free. You can't be paid much and you're not worth it

      I'm having trouble ascertaining what alternate universe you live in twit. While I don't doubt for a second that your time is free, do you really think for a second that someone actually paid for this?

      but I'm happy you are wasting money that could be spent really harming free software.

      Nope, it's just that I have a lot of free time twit. It's all free as in beer!!

  224. wow twice! by twitter · · Score: 1
    What could be better than one dumb flame? The same dumb flame done again. I'm twice as flattered this time. Tell me, who else are you bothering?

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:wow twice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think he's flaming you. But I guess that's a bit way over your head.

  225. Re:Elitist Prick by phr1 · · Score: 1

    I don't see why. He's not secretive about it. Type for him sometime and you'll see it all too.

  226. correction by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    no my mother called me 'Jeffrey Daniel' [Cliff], my peers in the music feild baptized me [prophet] themusicgod1.

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    GENERATION 26: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation.
  227. Hey, sorry about that :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have the pic saved to my HD and was originally just going to upload it myself and post a link. But I figured the right thing to do, copyright-wise, would be to link straight to the source. Didn't mean to cause you any trouble!!

    -MFS

    1. Re:Hey, sorry about that :( by thirtyfootscrew · · Score: 1

      No probs, the power of the Internet in action I guess! The hosting company have been pretty good about it and my site's back up (without the gallery at the moment) so no harm done.

      Glad you liked it.

  228. Re:John Carmack, John Romero, or Richard Garriott' by sordit · · Score: 1

    John's Desktop after finishing Daikatana
    http://home.arcor.de/sordit/linked/john rdesk.jpg
    For god's sake he has switched to Mozilla, checking it out after getting compatibilty complains about his website. He's also unsing Trillian instead of ICQ and I don't think his wallpaper is still featuring Daikatana art.

    You might also be interested in an older shot of Killcreek's Desktop.
    http://home.arcor.de/sordit/linked/killc reekdesk.j pg

  229. Ever hear of Jimmy Carter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The reason he wasn't effective as a Chief Executive was that he wasn't a macro kind of guy.
    He wanted to know the DETAILS of everything.

    gewg_

  230. You're An Idiot. Legally. by thelizman · · Score: 1

    Nazism and Fascism are not the same thing, you logic-bereft moron! If everyone on the left is as stupid as you, it'll be no problem keeping you behind the counter at mcdonalds where you belong.

    1. Re:You're An Idiot. Legally. by Malcontent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      " Nazism and Fascism are not the same thing,"

      Ok you got me. I mistyped. I first said they were NOT the same thing. You said they were, then I said that I am glad you changed your mind and agreed with me. I mistyped is all.

      Anyway we both agree that nazism and fascism are NOT the same thing. Now that we have that out of way...

      What do they have in common? Because you are so stupid I will make it easy for you. Here are the links to dictionary.com

      fascism

      nazism

      After you read them you will see that they have a few things in common. Mainly belligerent nationalism, nationalistic expansion and of course racism.

      You see now how you are a nazi and a fascist? You are racist and you advocate belligerent nationalism. You advocate controlling opposition through terror and censorship.

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      War is necrophilia.