Who's forcing them to go to these sites ? Last time I checked, you had access to this smart little "X" button that would close the window.
I'm all for those ads. They dont try and trick you by using faked windows, they just plain make their sales speech, and then you move on. If you dont like it, there are a bunch of other sites around that dont use them.
That's just it - they *DO* trick you. The article clearly states that *while* the user is browsing a given web site, the full motion video ad is being downloaded in the background. It is only when you leave the site that the video starts playing.
You don't have the option to check the "No thanks, I pay by the MB for my downloads" button. You don't even know about the large download until after it's done!! That's the offensive part.
One can only hope that the sites which feature these ads have a warning.
Some people, particluarly in smaller countries, pay for Internet by the MB. How much are these ads going to cost?!
Very true. Advertising on unlimited broadband is merely a nuisance. Full video, multi-MB sized advertising on a metered low-speed connection should be a crime. Why should people have to *pay* to receive corporate advertising?
That's like the high-school kids who pay Nike to be a walking billboard for the company. If I'm going to wear clothing that has large corporate logos, names, or slogans printed on it - they damn well better be paying *me* to do it.
401k? You mean that you are a right-winger, but are trying to build your wealth through a tool of the unwashed masses? One can only feel sorry for you, as you dream of one day being more than a tool for the rich.
Don't worry Uma, I'm just using it for the tax deduction.
Right or wrong, like it or not -- Microsoft has an obligation to their shareholders (you know -- the quarter million or so people who actually own the company)
I'm fairly certain there are way more than a quarter million Microsoft shareholders. Whether I like it or not, I'm sure I'm an M$ shareholder through one of my tech-stock mutual funds in my 401k.
There are probably 10's of millions of M$ shareholders.
NEW YORK:
At New York's Kennedy airport today, an individual later discovered to
be a public school teacher was arrested trying to board a flight while
in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a setsquare, a slide rule, and a
calculator.
At a morning press conference, Attorney general John Ashcroft said he
believes the man is a member of the notorious al-gebra movement. He is
being charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction.
"Al-gebra is a fearsome cult," Ashcroft said. "They desire average
solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a
search of absolute value.
"Management Guru" Tom Peters said this and is right. Yet,... product design continues to be male-driven. Many electronic products are designed like F250 trucks instead of light SUVs. This makes them female-hostile (and often hostile for people with smaller hands etc).
There are exceptions to this. Products that are sleek, sexy, and work great. Apple iPod and iBook, for example.
But your are right about most things. The PS2 looks like something out of a Terminator movie, as do most l33t g4m3r computer cases. Even the ubiquitous TI-83 calculator has an industrial look to it.
I think male design teams are afraid to use a woman's perspective in their designs, for fear of their product looking like a hello kitty dildo or something.
The fact that it doesn't work with the music download services just shows how useless the music download services are because they sell broken DRMed songs.
Very true. The average IQ must be dropping. In the '80's, no one would even think of buying a cassette tape that only worked in certain tape players - that was the nice thing about the cassette is that it was small enough to put in your pocket, and you could play it on your home stereo, in your car, or at your friends house.
Why do people buy DRM'd music that only works in certain players? That's like buying a car that only works on certain roads or buying a pen that only writes on special paper.
1.5GB is the bare minimum I would believe for an audio prepherial
I disagree. I have a 256 MB iRiver player and I have no plans to switch to another model.
I dont have a need or a desire to carry my entire music collection around in my pocket. (At least not till all portables are WiFi enabled, and allow you to trade music with the 20 people on your subway car).
I just want the MP3/OGG equivalent of the original walkman. My 256 MB player achieves this, and gives me the capacity to store four CD's worth and an FM tuner. Perfect.
This device is not revolutionary. It's evolutionary. It doesn't "reinvent" or "redefine" anything. It takes a good idea (portable music player) and adds build in FM transmitter and 802.11 song download.
Those are two very useful features, but I'm not about to throw away my $300 mp3 player to buy this one.
1) most of them don't care what OS they're running as long as it works
This is absolutely key here. My Father is a perfect example of this. His skills with a PC are about what the average/. geek's skills are with women. As soon as a dialog box pops up that he doesn't recognize, he immediately calls me. He doesn't even read it, he just calls me and asks "What do I do". You get the picture.
Anyhow, over the past year, I've slowly migrated his apps to OSS products. For example, I switched him over from IE and Outlook Express (gag!) to Mozilla for web and mail. Similarly, I uninstalled OFfice '97 and installed OOo 1.1. AIM to GAIM, etc. You get the picture.
Once he became comfortable with these new applications (he *loves* the mozilla pop-up blocking and moz mail spam filtering), it was a trivial matter to remove Win98 entirely and install a fresh copy of SuSE 8.2 Pro. I placed the same icons on the desktop, in the same locations, set the wallpaper to what is was in Windoze, and set the SuSE login manager to log him in automatically on bootup.
He was already so comfortable using Mozilla, OpenOffice, GAIM, etc. that when I swapped Win98 for SuSE, it took him about an hour before he even noticed that something was "different"!;-)
Moral of the story? If my Father can use Linux, *anyone* can.
On a side note, it's better for me now too, because when he does encounter a problem, I can just SSH into his machine (I opened the SSH port on his router) and fix it. With Win98 we would go back and forth for ever on the phone "you see the little picture of the computer? that's called an icon. double click it now. no, with the other mouse button". You all know the drill.
At the end of the days users want something that works with their existing apps and documents. They don't care whats going on underneath as long as it works
I agree, however it has to work for it's target audience. Most Linux distros are trying too hard to be all things to all people. They end up becoming what the Toyota Camry or Honda Accord is to the car market - a bland, boring, transportation appliance, which may be "good" for a great many things, it is not "excellent" at anything.
Another automotive analogy might be to compare your average slashdot Linux geek's computer to a Ferrari. Joe Geek has an overclocked Athlon and the latest -pre kernel compiled with optimization flags out the wazoo. The Ferrari is similarly tweaked to it's maximum potential, is designed to be screaming fast and handle like it's on rails - but unlike the Honda or Toyota, the Ferrari requires more maintenance, a skilled Ferrari specialist to work on it, and is more demanding of the driver. It also provides a much more rewarding experience than than Honda - this is what makes the Ferrari so desireable - but it's also what gives it such a limited market share (besides the price tag).
For Linux to be sucessful on the desktop, there needs to be a clear line between what is a corporate desktop distro, and what is a home desktop distro. This is exactly what RedHat is attempting with their new "Advanced Workstation" product, versus the Fedora Core.
Yes, he has only given us the best, most stable, FREE OS in the world.
Actually... BSD or FreeBSD is probably the most stable OS judging by Netcraft's Uptime records. (take that! all you "BSD is dead" trolls!)
OpenBSD is obviously the most secure OS in the world, having had only a single remote exploit in more than seven years. Seems like my WinXP machine at work can't go but seven days between "critical" security updates.
I'm writing this post from Moz 1.4.1 on SuSE 8.2 Pro, so that tells you what *my* favorite OS is, however, Linux certainly isn't the "best" OS in every measurable way.
This case, even at this price, is *perfect* for industrial applications, and other applications that have a high amount of dust, soot, or other particulate matter in the air.
Since there are no fans, there is no requirement to circulate air *inside* the case, so the inside stays nice and clean - even in a very dirty environment.
Ever seen the inside of a PC that's been at a coal mining operation? Or at a volcanic research station? Or a military PC used outdoors in a dusty environment? They get pretty filthy inside very quickly, and it is this filth that causes fans to fail, and then the components to fail.
If someone uses this case to sell a packaged boxed PC solution for dirty air environments, it's a winner.
Potentially costing as much as $1400, how much is your peace and quiet worth?
I suppose that's a function of how much your time is worth.
If you are a consultant getting paid $350/hour then this is not a very expensive case. If you are a student fixing PC's on campus for $10/hour then this price is obscene.
I'd sooner just buy an Apple G5 (dual of course!) which gets me all the power, no noise, and is a "standard" off-the-shelf computer.
Call the company and ask for the contact information of their legal department.
Pay a lawyer a small fee to have him write a letter to the offending company suggesting that their GPL violation will result in litigation if they don't work with you to resolve the problem.
The offending company's legal department will probably ignore you if you address them directly, so it helps a lot to have a lawyer write the letter (and send it certified mail with return receipt - that always scares people)
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Who's forcing them to go to these sites ? Last time I checked, you had access to this smart little "X" button that would close the window. I'm all for those ads. They dont try and trick you by using faked windows, they just plain make their sales speech, and then you move on. If you dont like it, there are a bunch of other sites around that dont use them.
That's just it - they *DO* trick you. The article clearly states that *while* the user is browsing a given web site, the full motion video ad is being downloaded in the background. It is only when you leave the site that the video starts playing.
You don't have the option to check the "No thanks, I pay by the MB for my downloads" button. You don't even know about the large download until after it's done!! That's the offensive part.
One can only hope that the sites which feature these ads have a warning.
Some people, particluarly in smaller countries, pay for Internet by the MB. How much are these ads going to cost?!
Very true. Advertising on unlimited broadband is merely a nuisance. Full video, multi-MB sized advertising on a metered low-speed connection should be a crime. Why should people have to *pay* to receive corporate advertising?
That's like the high-school kids who pay Nike to be a walking billboard for the company. If I'm going to wear clothing that has large corporate logos, names, or slogans printed on it - they damn well better be paying *me* to do it.
401k? You mean that you are a right-winger, but are trying to build your wealth through a tool of the unwashed masses? One can only feel sorry for you, as you dream of one day being more than a tool for the rich.
Don't worry Uma, I'm just using it for the tax deduction.
Right or wrong, like it or not -- Microsoft has an obligation to their shareholders (you know -- the quarter million or so people who actually own the company)
I'm fairly certain there are way more than a quarter million Microsoft shareholders. Whether I like it or not, I'm sure I'm an M$ shareholder through one of my tech-stock mutual funds in my 401k.
There are probably 10's of millions of M$ shareholders.
NEW YORK:
At New York's Kennedy airport today, an individual later discovered to be a public school teacher was arrested trying to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a setsquare, a slide rule, and a calculator.
At a morning press conference, Attorney general John Ashcroft said he believes the man is a member of the notorious al-gebra movement. He is being charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction.
"Al-gebra is a fearsome cult," Ashcroft said. "They desire average solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a search of absolute value.
benifets...becomming...populare... obnoxously...ruggid...Instraments... carrer...pacging...pacages
My God man. Have you heard of dictionary.com ???
1) Buy this thing 2) Become a rockstar 3) Get tons of ass 4) ??? 5) Profit!
I tried this same business model once, with an Athlon MP, only I substituted "Become a Geek" for step two.
I never got to step three.
If they give ya any trouble, do as I do:
'su root' then FSCK them. Hint: Don't stop till their inode buffer is full.
"Management Guru" Tom Peters said this and is right. Yet,... product design continues to be male-driven. Many electronic products are designed like F250 trucks instead of light SUVs. This makes them female-hostile (and often hostile for people with smaller hands etc).
There are exceptions to this. Products that are sleek, sexy, and work great. Apple iPod and iBook, for example.
But your are right about most things. The PS2 looks like something out of a Terminator movie, as do most l33t g4m3r computer cases. Even the ubiquitous TI-83 calculator has an industrial look to it.
I think male design teams are afraid to use a woman's perspective in their designs, for fear of their product looking like a hello kitty dildo or something.
The fact that it doesn't work with the music download services just shows how useless the music download services are because they sell broken DRMed songs.
Very true. The average IQ must be dropping. In the '80's, no one would even think of buying a cassette tape that only worked in certain tape players - that was the nice thing about the cassette is that it was small enough to put in your pocket, and you could play it on your home stereo, in your car, or at your friends house.
Why do people buy DRM'd music that only works in certain players? That's like buying a car that only works on certain roads or buying a pen that only writes on special paper.
No thanks.
1.5GB is the bare minimum I would believe for an audio prepherial
I disagree. I have a 256 MB iRiver player and I have no plans to switch to another model.
I dont have a need or a desire to carry my entire music collection around in my pocket. (At least not till all portables are WiFi enabled, and allow you to trade music with the 20 people on your subway car).
I just want the MP3/OGG equivalent of the original walkman. My 256 MB player achieves this, and gives me the capacity to store four CD's worth and an FM tuner. Perfect.
This device is not revolutionary. It's evolutionary. It doesn't "reinvent" or "redefine" anything. It takes a good idea (portable music player) and adds build in FM transmitter and 802.11 song download.
Those are two very useful features, but I'm not about to throw away my $300 mp3 player to buy this one.
1) most of them don't care what OS they're running as long as it works
/. geek's skills are with women. As soon as a dialog box pops up that he doesn't recognize, he immediately calls me. He doesn't even read it, he just calls me and asks "What do I do". You get the picture.
;-)
This is absolutely key here. My Father is a perfect example of this. His skills with a PC are about what the average
Anyhow, over the past year, I've slowly migrated his apps to OSS products. For example, I switched him over from IE and Outlook Express (gag!) to Mozilla for web and mail. Similarly, I uninstalled OFfice '97 and installed OOo 1.1. AIM to GAIM, etc. You get the picture.
Once he became comfortable with these new applications (he *loves* the mozilla pop-up blocking and moz mail spam filtering), it was a trivial matter to remove Win98 entirely and install a fresh copy of SuSE 8.2 Pro. I placed the same icons on the desktop, in the same locations, set the wallpaper to what is was in Windoze, and set the SuSE login manager to log him in automatically on bootup.
He was already so comfortable using Mozilla, OpenOffice, GAIM, etc. that when I swapped Win98 for SuSE, it took him about an hour before he even noticed that something was "different"!
Moral of the story? If my Father can use Linux, *anyone* can.
On a side note, it's better for me now too, because when he does encounter a problem, I can just SSH into his machine (I opened the SSH port on his router) and fix it. With Win98 we would go back and forth for ever on the phone "you see the little picture of the computer? that's called an icon. double click it now. no, with the other mouse button". You all know the drill.
At the end of the days users want something that works with their existing apps and documents. They don't care whats going on underneath as long as it works
I agree, however it has to work for it's target audience. Most Linux distros are trying too hard to be all things to all people. They end up becoming what the Toyota Camry or Honda Accord is to the car market - a bland, boring, transportation appliance, which may be "good" for a great many things, it is not "excellent" at anything.
Another automotive analogy might be to compare your average slashdot Linux geek's computer to a Ferrari. Joe Geek has an overclocked Athlon and the latest -pre kernel compiled with optimization flags out the wazoo. The Ferrari is similarly tweaked to it's maximum potential, is designed to be screaming fast and handle like it's on rails - but unlike the Honda or Toyota, the Ferrari requires more maintenance, a skilled Ferrari specialist to work on it, and is more demanding of the driver. It also provides a much more rewarding experience than than Honda - this is what makes the Ferrari so desireable - but it's also what gives it such a limited market share (besides the price tag).
For Linux to be sucessful on the desktop, there needs to be a clear line between what is a corporate desktop distro, and what is a home desktop distro. This is exactly what RedHat is attempting with their new "Advanced Workstation" product, versus the Fedora Core.
Yes, he has only given us the best, most stable, FREE OS in the world.
Actually... BSD or FreeBSD is probably the most stable OS judging by Netcraft's Uptime records. (take that! all you "BSD is dead" trolls!)
OpenBSD is obviously the most secure OS in the world, having had only a single remote exploit in more than seven years. Seems like my WinXP machine at work can't go but seven days between "critical" security updates.
I'm writing this post from Moz 1.4.1 on SuSE 8.2 Pro, so that tells you what *my* favorite OS is, however, Linux certainly isn't the "best" OS in every measurable way.
This case, even at this price, is *perfect* for industrial applications, and other applications that have a high amount of dust, soot, or other particulate matter in the air.
Since there are no fans, there is no requirement to circulate air *inside* the case, so the inside stays nice and clean - even in a very dirty environment.
Ever seen the inside of a PC that's been at a coal mining operation? Or at a volcanic research station? Or a military PC used outdoors in a dusty environment? They get pretty filthy inside very quickly, and it is this filth that causes fans to fail, and then the components to fail.
If someone uses this case to sell a packaged boxed PC solution for dirty air environments, it's a winner.
Potentially costing as much as $1400, how much is your peace and quiet worth?
I suppose that's a function of how much your time is worth.
If you are a consultant getting paid $350/hour then this is not a very expensive case. If you are a student fixing PC's on campus for $10/hour then this price is obscene.
I'd sooner just buy an Apple G5 (dual of course!) which gets me all the power, no noise, and is a "standard" off-the-shelf computer.
So let me get this straight...
SCO, an American company, wants to hi-jack an OS that was born in Europe, and then license it back to European companies??
Who do they expect is going to fall for this?
why yes, yes it is.
In Soviet Russia, Dr. Who finds YOU!
Yes... but does it run linux?
In Soviet Russia, Mozilla releases YOU!
Actually, you don't have to be in Russia. Users the world over have been released from the bonds of their crappy IE browsers.
But you knew that already.
2. the adjunct to which is the etymology of "tardy" - which is just an old anglo-saxon mispronounciation of "tardis".
So that's why everyone in high-school always called me a "tard".
It's because I showed up late to class!
I get it now!!!
Call the company and ask for the contact information of their legal department.
Pay a lawyer a small fee to have him write a letter to the offending company suggesting that their GPL violation will result in litigation if they don't work with you to resolve the problem.
The offending company's legal department will probably ignore you if you address them directly, so it helps a lot to have a lawyer write the letter (and send it certified mail with return receipt - that always scares people)
African or european? and it all depends on the actual weight-ratios anyway.
It could grip it by the husk!