I don't know what 120's you've been trying but I have a WD1200bb and a WD800jb that sound like 707's winding up to taxi down the runway.
I glued some cardboard batts inside the case to try to dampen them some and it's still intolerable.
Fortunately for me my dad has a machine shop in his garage and he has several chunks of 3/8" aluminum plate laying around that I'm going to scavange from him as soon as I can get over there, maybe tomorrow.
One thing I'm going to do is fill the sandwiches out with that foam in a can stuff then trim it smooth. And as a final touch, I have a case of old TE coolers that came from old Igloo ice chests that I picked up for a $1 each! I plan to attach TE's to each sandwhich to enhance the cooling. If I run them at lowered power than rated they should still provide ample cooling without sweating..
I may even mill the inside of the sandwich plates so that they conform fit the drive more like a glove so that the air gap will end up smaller, it would also reduce the outside thickness of the sandwich.
I plan to experiment with this plenty. If I make any big breakthroughs I'll journal it..
Small reactors in subs and ships can provide enough clean power to run small cities. (I think this is a GOOD idea as long as they don't use Russian reactors...)
As I remember, they brought two aircraft carriers to New York to provide power after 9-11. I don't remember if they used them or not but they brought them in to do it. Two aircraft carriers could have provided enough electricity to handle a LOT of the city.
That's pretty amazing and damn, that's a LOT of power. Beats the hell out of burning fossil fuels and polluting the air we ALL breathe and posioning the land, sea and air, making plants, people and wildlife sick, some of it dying off forever and god knows what genetic damage is being done.
In 1,000 years, provided anyone is left alive, "people" are going to be so badly mutated that they won't be recognizable as humans...
I would like to see the total abandonment of fossil fuels in favor of non polluting technologies, solar being the prefered (where feasable) because it is silent and has minimal impact on the enviroment, provided that they are manufactured and installed with the enviroment in mind.
The reactors, handled PROPERLY and responsibly are a damn sight better choice than fossil fuels..
Turn on FOX news and see the Dubya zealots in action. They wave the flag so fast, hard and furiously in the name of Dubya and all the other neo-cons and the shadowy causes they stand for that one has to be brain dead to not see outright that these people are zealots. There is *nothing* "Fair and balanced" at all, by any means about FOX news or any of their neo-con zealots/"reporters" or the "news" that they "report"..
The neo-con zealots are the true terrorists because they control the media and form public opinion of the sleepy masses and they are the ones with a finger on the nuclear trigger.
Their Middle East policy will eventually drag this country into a nuclear confrontation if not all out war and will most likely bring about the demise of this country as we know it.
America is a small, young country and it is NOT the super power that it once was. Sure, we have some big, scary weapons but we only have a million troops and they are spread thin over the entire planet, fighting grass fires. We do not have the manpower to defend our homeland soil against an attack.. America has pissed on and pissed off just about the entire planet and has backed it'self into a corner with just about only one ally, and that ally is questionable.
Those are all true zealots.
As for Linux zealots, yeah, you could call me a Linux zealot because I'm VERY biased and VERY PRO LINUX. I'm VERY ANTI-M$, I hate M$ with a passion almost on an equal with the neo-con zealots of FOX news and their hatred of anyone not in their ballgame.
I'm so anti-M$ biased that I have had to give up being a general IT consultant because I now find it impossible to help people with M$ systems anymore. When someone has a M$ problem my first instinct is to tell them: "Your entire system sucks shit because you use that shitty O$ and that shitty $oftware. You will always have problem$ because every PC in your building needs an enema.."
Now that's *MY* version of zealotry. I had to rethink my position and now I market myself as a security consultant where I can promote my beloved Linux with a passion and not insult my customers.
We've determined that I am a Linux zealot, through my own admissions. Now, if I were a terrorist however, I would not be concerned about dissing customers, I would be physically trashing their systems and installing Linux, like a dog pissing on a tree to mark it's territory. But I take the path of PROMOTION of the cause. I set my customers up a Linux based router to protect their M$ systems, to the best that they can be protected outside of unplugging them. Then I setup a spare machine they have around to run Linux and encourage them to explore and learn Linux in the hopes that they may one day decide to convert.
So, there is a huge difference between a Linux zealot and a terrorist. Linux zealots don't fly airplanes into buildings or kill people that don't agree with them.
Enderle is like a dirty diaper. He's full of shit and he stinks. Technewsworld needs to change their diaper..
I've spent the last 14 months breaking the bond$ of M$ $lavery and I have no intentions of loading any M$ products into any of my Linux boxes. I simply won't do it. I'm sure that a vast majority of the *nix users here are of the same opinion.
A monkey could take a huge, steamy shit in the middle of the floor and you could plug a mouse, keyboard and monitor into that monkey shit and have a superior system than you would get with an M$ system.. And it would get fewer viruses and crash far less often!
Ok boys, get out the guns and ammo. Time for a posse to gather round the servers and protect them from the blood sucking vampires that come to feed on the life forces of the honest by sapping away everything that is good, fair and free.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes!!
Microsoft Purchases Evil From Satan
by Brian Briggs
Redmond, WA - Microsoft purchased evil from Satan for $2.7 billion after many months of tough negotiations.
"We've been after Satan for some time," said CEO Steve Ballmer. "Negotiations were tough, but I think both Microsoft and the Prince of Darkness are happy with this deal."
Microsoft already controls 15% of the evil market, and with this purchase that number nears 100%. The Department of Justice voiced concerns over one corporation controlling so much evil, and launched investigations.
"We feel that there are real opportunities with evil, and that when evil is integrated into our next generation of Windows products consumers will appreciate evil on their desktop," said Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates. "Businesses haven't been able to fully realize their evil potential. With evil integrated into Office XP, corporations big and small will begin to see enhanced evil productivity."
"Evil is a real growing market," market strategist Frank Dresgan of Merrill Lynch explained. "Microsoft is a little late in the game, but even when they enter a market late they still tend to dominate. I think we'll see the same results with evil."
"I've been dealing with Microsoft for some time," Lucifer said. "I've been at this evil thing for millions of years, and wanted a way out. I considered an IPO, but then Steve-O and Billy came along and told me about their 'Evil Everywhere' plan. I just couldn't refuse."
Evil was founded by Satan close to the beginning of time. It has been growing steadily ever since, although most of the growth has accelerated in the past five years with the development of the Internet. Satan plans to retire to a small island in the Bahamas and write a column for the local newspaper.
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What should I do? Just send them a check every week and tell them to stay home in bed all day?
They get up and drive to my place to work because they want to be there. They don't have to be there.
And yes, I work.
I have a broken back and I still go out and work my ass off while the office people sit inside in the air conditioner. You know why I go out and work? Because I can't find anyone that is capable. It's *specialized* construction work, not really all that hard but it's not easy. You have to have a special skill to do this work and I have to work with the men to train them how to do the work.
I don't run a day care center, I run a business and we are there to work, not to fuck off. Work is for working, home is for what ever you want to do. Don't bring your home problems or habits to work and don't expect to act like you are at home when you are at work.
I'm not in the habit of giving people money for free, which is what you are doing when your people come to work and fuck off playing games, downloading porn and warez and mp3z and viruses and chatting and all the other immature shit that people do.
It's a grown up world at work. We don't play, we work. You want to play, pick up your check and go home. Go "work" for someone else that will pay you just because you are there.
I filter content at my small business. I pay my people to work, not to download porn and viruses or play solitare.
They call it "work" for a good reason.. If they want to screw around they can screw around at home but not on my dime. I don't allow personel email either. I filter non business related email out and I don't all IRC or chat programs.
Again, work is for working. Home is *your* business...
3. Toshiba Tecra 500CDT P120 (YUK!) w/128m ram and 20g HDD. DB Winblows 98/2k for work only!
4. 200Mhz Pentium 1 w/Gentoo, 128m ram, 20g. In kitchen to listen to music while cooking.
5. 233mhz Pentium 1 w/Damn Small Linux, 256m ram, D.S.L. installed on 200mb HDD, use in garage to listen to music streamed from house.
6. 350mhz (OC@400mhz) with 256m ram, 44gigs running Mandrake 9.1 and KDE 3.1.4 Use for Private FTP for friends, also streams audio to household lan and I browse from it sometimes when main machine is busy..
7. The Beast. (Well, it was when I built it..) P4-2ghz, 512m ram, 200gigs, DVD, 52x24x52 CDRW, Nvidia GF4-Ti4200 VIVO, TWO 17" Trinitron displays for TwinView, HP 4p scanjet, LaserJet IIP, Mandrake 9.1, KDE 3.1.4 (soon to be 9.2)
I don't buy factory built machines, I buy components and build them myself the way *I* want them built.. I have numerous other old machines, dozens of them just sitting around that I don't use because, well, why should I?? I have more than enough now, anymore would run my electric bill up too much. Yeah, I collect clunkers. I get a personal thrill loading Linux onto a box that I rescued from a trash pile, I just can't pass one up. People throw away perfectly good machines ALL THE TIME and I get them totally for free, I only have to load them in the car and clean them up. It's scary how many (good) machines I have...
I say let's be realistic. Are you telling me you're never going to buy a CD again?
In reality, hating the RIAA is easy. But actually boycotting them?
That, sir, is another ballgame altogether.
No, not really. I am sick of mega-corp bullshit. I boycott LOTS of things. I don't even listen to the radio anymore and haven't bought a CD in YEARS. Last time I bought a CD they still stocked vinyl alongside of the CD's..
I either listen to classical or indie stuff but I do NOT listen to what everyone else listens to.
Some people are suckers and they slobber and drool over every little fad and run out like good little consumers to throw money down the toilet everytime some belly slithering money changer decides to introduce some greedy scheme for robbing the weak of mind and will.
I prefer to keep my money for myself. Everyone is out to take it from me, I would rather they didn't and it's easier to keep it if I don't HELP them..
I'm your customer. You sue me. Fuck you. I'm not your customer anymore or ever again. And what's more, I'll bad mouth you from the rooftops and to my grave.
I'll wage a personal psyops war against your ass for life and my kids will carry on the battle after I'm gone. Grudges can span generations in my family.. SBC spent a lot of time fscking me over and I spend a LOT of my time bad mouthing them. A whole lot of my time.
Bad customer relations can bring down a business. One unhappy customer can do a tremendous amount of damage in lost sales and lost customers. And in my business I deal with the public so I get a much better chance than most people to spread my bad words about SBC..
I don't worry about RIAA or MPAA because I don't do that but like these old folks that are wrongly sued, if I was them I'm not only counter sue I would put the bad mouth on them in spades and maybe even hire a voodoo witch doctor to put a curse on them, their children, their mothers, their cats, their dogs, their fish and their canaries..
Forgivness is for those that are too weak to hold a grudge forever..
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I for one am not going to wear headphones and employ whookem-pookem technology to "solve" a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
The noise is not intermittent, it's a constant, high pitched whine and it's annoying as all hell.
I don't know what 120's you've been trying but I have a WD1200bb and a WD800jb that sound like 707's winding up to taxi down the runway.
I glued some cardboard batts inside the case to try to dampen them some and it's still intolerable.
Fortunately for me my dad has a machine shop in his garage and he has several chunks of 3/8" aluminum plate laying around that I'm going to scavange from him as soon as I can get over there, maybe tomorrow.
One thing I'm going to do is fill the sandwiches out with that foam in a can stuff then trim it smooth. And as a final touch, I have a case of old TE coolers that came from old Igloo ice chests that I picked up for a $1 each!
I plan to attach TE's to each sandwhich to enhance the cooling. If I run them at lowered power than rated they should still provide ample cooling without sweating..
I may even mill the inside of the sandwich plates so that they conform fit the drive more like a glove so that the air gap will end up smaller, it would also reduce the outside thickness of the sandwich.
I plan to experiment with this plenty. If I make any big breakthroughs I'll journal it..
Small reactors in subs and ships can provide enough clean power to run small cities.
(I think this is a GOOD idea as long as they don't use Russian reactors...)
As I remember, they brought two aircraft carriers to New York to provide power after 9-11. I don't remember if they used them or not but they brought them in to do it. Two aircraft carriers could have provided enough electricity to handle a LOT of the city.
That's pretty amazing and damn, that's a LOT of power. Beats the hell out of burning fossil fuels and polluting the air we ALL breathe and posioning the land, sea and air, making plants, people and wildlife sick, some of it dying off forever and god knows what genetic damage is being done.
In 1,000 years, provided anyone is left alive, "people" are going to be so badly mutated that they won't be recognizable as humans...
I would like to see the total abandonment of fossil fuels in favor of non polluting technologies, solar being the prefered (where feasable) because it is silent and has minimal impact on the enviroment, provided that they are manufactured and installed with the enviroment in mind.
The reactors, handled PROPERLY and responsibly are a damn sight better choice than fossil fuels..
Want to see a true zealot?
Turn on FOX news and see the Dubya zealots in action. They wave the flag so fast, hard and furiously in the name of Dubya and all the other neo-cons and the shadowy causes they stand for that one has to be brain dead to not see outright that these people are zealots.
There is *nothing* "Fair and balanced" at all, by any means about FOX news or any of their neo-con zealots/"reporters" or the "news" that they "report"..
The neo-con zealots are the true terrorists because they control the media and form public opinion of the sleepy masses and they are the ones with a finger on the nuclear trigger.
Their Middle East policy will eventually drag this country into a nuclear confrontation if not all out war and will most likely bring about the demise of this country as we know it.
America is a small, young country and it is NOT the super power that it once was. Sure, we have some big, scary weapons but we only have a million troops and they are spread thin over the entire planet, fighting grass fires. We do not have the manpower to defend our homeland soil against an attack.. America has pissed on and pissed off just about the entire planet and has backed it'self into a corner with just about only one ally, and that ally is questionable.
Those are all true zealots.
As for Linux zealots, yeah, you could call me a Linux zealot because I'm VERY biased and VERY PRO LINUX. I'm VERY ANTI-M$, I hate M$ with a passion almost on an equal with the neo-con zealots of FOX news and their hatred of anyone not in their ballgame.
I'm so anti-M$ biased that I have had to give up being a general IT consultant because I now find it impossible to help people with M$ systems anymore. When someone has a M$ problem my first instinct is to tell them: "Your entire system sucks shit because you use that shitty O$ and that shitty $oftware. You will always have problem$ because every PC in your building needs an enema.."
Now that's *MY* version of zealotry. I had to rethink my position and now I market myself as a security consultant where I can promote my beloved Linux with a passion and not insult my customers.
We've determined that I am a Linux zealot, through my own admissions. Now, if I were a terrorist however, I would not be concerned about dissing customers, I would be physically trashing their systems and installing Linux, like a dog pissing on a tree to mark it's territory. But I take the path of PROMOTION of the cause. I set my customers up a Linux based router to protect their M$ systems, to the best that they can be protected outside of unplugging them. Then I setup a spare machine they have around to run Linux and encourage them to explore and learn Linux in the hopes that they may one day decide to convert.
So, there is a huge difference between a Linux zealot and a terrorist.
Linux zealots don't fly airplanes into buildings or kill people that don't agree with them.
Enderle is like a dirty diaper. He's full of shit and he stinks.
Technewsworld needs to change their diaper..
Well, I used to get it all the time but it's been so long
I'm about to declare myself a "born again virgin"..
Woa! You almost forgot the SCO license fee there Red Rider!
Now your bot just exceeded $1,000..
(Still cheaper than a broad if all you want is a beer getter)
Can someone please add "IN SOVIET RUSSIA" to the friggin lameness filter??
http://freshmeat.net/projects/knoppixmame/
I've spent the last 14 months breaking the bond$ of M$ $lavery and I have no intentions of loading any M$ products into any of my Linux boxes. I simply won't do it.
I'm sure that a vast majority of the *nix users here are of the same opinion.
Why downgrade your box??
Every few days?? How about every few minutes!
A monkey could take a huge, steamy shit in the middle of the floor and you could plug a mouse, keyboard and monitor into that monkey shit and have a superior system than you would get with an M$ system.. And it would get fewer viruses and crash far less often!
Ok boys, get out the guns and ammo.
Time for a posse to gather round the servers and protect them from the blood sucking vampires that come to feed on the life forces of the honest by sapping away everything that is good, fair and free.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes!!
Darl's crack pipe or is he smoking Darl's beef pipe??
Well, how about you fix it for us then?
:)
You can contribute if you feel the need.
Or, you can just keep on using winbloz XP (Xtra Pussified) with it's playskool weebles interface.
And just in case you're feeling froggy, behold your wonder O$..
Microsoft warns of 4 new 'critical' Windows flaws
This message has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Linux Zealot.
So, they're still chinks..
Nothing will change that, ever.
A chink is a chink is a chink..
they would just drop a JDAM or a MOAB on M$ HQ.
Let's put a stop to this E.V.I.L.
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html
Business News
WednesdayApril 510:24 AM ET
Microsoft Purchases Evil From Satan
by Brian Briggs
Redmond, WA - Microsoft purchased evil from Satan for $2.7 billion after many months of tough negotiations.
"We've been after Satan for some time," said CEO Steve Ballmer. "Negotiations were tough, but I think both Microsoft and the Prince of Darkness are happy with this deal."
Microsoft already controls 15% of the evil market, and with this purchase that number nears 100%. The Department of Justice voiced concerns over one corporation controlling so much evil, and launched investigations.
"We feel that there are real opportunities with evil, and that when evil is integrated into our next generation of Windows products consumers will appreciate evil on their desktop," said Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates. "Businesses haven't been able to fully realize their evil potential. With evil integrated into Office XP, corporations big and small will begin to see enhanced evil productivity."
"Evil is a real growing market," market strategist Frank Dresgan of Merrill Lynch explained. "Microsoft is a little late in the game, but even when they enter a market late they still tend to dominate. I think we'll see the same results with evil."
"I've been dealing with Microsoft for some time," Lucifer said. "I've been at this evil thing for millions of years, and wanted a way out. I considered an IPO, but then Steve-O and Billy came along and told me about their 'Evil Everywhere' plan. I just couldn't refuse."
Evil was founded by Satan close to the beginning of time. It has been growing steadily ever since, although most of the growth has accelerated in the past five years with the development of the Internet. Satan plans to retire to a small island in the Bahamas and write a column for the local newspaper.
(C) 1999-2003 BBspot LLC
BBspot is a satirical news and comedy source and meant to be funny. If you are easily offended, gullible or don't have a sense of humor we suggest you go elsewhere.
Fuck Micro$haft..
Jawold. I make everyone sit on milk crates under flourescent lights and I set the displays to run 1024x768 @ 60hz.. /*click heels*/
At least you appear to be honest about it..
What should I do? Just send them a check every week and tell them to stay home in bed all day?
They get up and drive to my place to work because they want to be there. They don't have to be there.
And yes, I work.
I have a broken back and I still go out and work my ass off while the office people sit inside in the air conditioner. You know why I go out and work? Because I can't find anyone that is capable.
It's *specialized* construction work, not really all that hard but it's not easy. You have to have a special skill to do this work and I have to work with the men to train them how to do the work.
I don't run a day care center, I run a business and we are there to work, not to fuck off.
Work is for working, home is for what ever you want to do. Don't bring your home problems or habits to work and don't expect to act like you are at home when you are at work.
I'm not in the habit of giving people money for free, which is what you are doing when your people come to work and fuck off playing games, downloading porn and warez and mp3z and viruses and chatting and all the other immature shit that people do.
It's a grown up world at work. We don't play, we work. You want to play, pick up your check and go home. Go "work" for someone else that will pay you just because you are there.
I filter content at my small business.
I pay my people to work, not to download porn and viruses or play solitare.
They call it "work" for a good reason..
If they want to screw around they can screw around at home but not on my dime.
I don't allow personel email either. I filter non business related email out and I don't all IRC or chat programs.
Again, work is for working. Home is *your* business...
Starting with the oldest, (all but #1 are homebrews)
1. REAL IBM PC-XT 5160 with CGA and IBM Color display. 10mb "Plus Hardcard" 2/FDD. Perfect condition, still play games on it.. (IBM DOS 3.3, 640k)
2. 90mhz Pentium 1 w/500mb HDD running Smoothwall as household firewall.
3. Toshiba Tecra 500CDT P120 (YUK!) w/128m ram and 20g HDD. DB Winblows 98/2k for work only!
4. 200Mhz Pentium 1 w/Gentoo, 128m ram, 20g. In kitchen to listen to music while cooking.
5. 233mhz Pentium 1 w/Damn Small Linux, 256m ram, D.S.L. installed on 200mb HDD, use in garage to listen to music streamed from house.
6. 350mhz (OC@400mhz) with 256m ram, 44gigs running Mandrake 9.1 and KDE 3.1.4 Use for Private FTP for friends, also streams audio to household lan and I browse from it sometimes when main machine is busy..
7. The Beast. (Well, it was when I built it..) P4-2ghz, 512m ram, 200gigs, DVD, 52x24x52 CDRW, Nvidia GF4-Ti4200 VIVO, TWO 17" Trinitron displays for TwinView, HP 4p scanjet, LaserJet IIP, Mandrake 9.1, KDE 3.1.4 (soon to be 9.2)
I don't buy factory built machines, I buy components and build them myself the way *I* want them built..
I have numerous other old machines, dozens of them just sitting around that I don't use because, well, why should I?? I have more than enough now, anymore would run my electric bill up too much. Yeah, I collect clunkers. I get a personal thrill loading Linux onto a box that I rescued from a trash pile, I just can't pass one up. People throw away perfectly good machines ALL THE TIME and I get them totally for free, I only have to load them in the car and clean them up. It's scary how many (good) machines I have...
What makes it more secure than Windows?
<flame>The simple fact that it is NOT windows makes it more secure than windows.</flame>
my ex wife's butt. Or at least modeled after it. They're pretty much the same size and take about the same amount of time to traverse...
I say let's be realistic. Are you telling me you're never going to buy a CD again?
In reality, hating the RIAA is easy. But actually boycotting them?
That, sir, is another ballgame altogether.
No, not really. I am sick of mega-corp bullshit. I boycott LOTS of things. I don't even listen to the radio anymore and haven't bought a CD in YEARS. Last time I bought a CD they still stocked vinyl alongside of the CD's..
I either listen to classical or indie stuff but I do NOT listen to what everyone else listens to.
Some people are suckers and they slobber and drool over every little fad and run out like good little consumers to throw money down the toilet everytime some belly slithering money changer decides to introduce some greedy scheme for robbing the weak of mind and will.
I prefer to keep my money for myself. Everyone is out to take it from me, I would rather they didn't and it's easier to keep it if I don't HELP them..
I'm your customer. You sue me. Fuck you.
I'm not your customer anymore or ever again.
And what's more, I'll bad mouth you from the rooftops and to my grave.
I'll wage a personal psyops war against your ass for life and my kids will carry on the battle after I'm gone. Grudges can span generations in my family..
SBC spent a lot of time fscking me over and I spend a LOT of my time bad mouthing them. A whole lot of my time.
Bad customer relations can bring down a business. One unhappy customer can do a tremendous amount of damage in lost sales and lost customers. And in my business I deal with the public so I get a much better chance than most people to spread my bad words about SBC..
I don't worry about RIAA or MPAA because I don't do that but like these old folks that are wrongly sued, if I was them I'm not only counter sue I would put the bad mouth on them in spades and maybe even hire a voodoo witch doctor to put a curse on them, their children, their mothers, their cats, their dogs, their fish and their canaries..
Forgivness is for those that are too weak to hold a grudge forever..