As long as you don't redistribute you have no problems. At my old job we used to use openh323 stack because it saved us 1/2 million in licensing fees for a commercial voip stack. Problem was it was pure shit, we had to put 3 developers on it for a year to get a workable version. I don't think we ever released what they did, for fear our competitors would pick up our changes and actually get a workable voip stack for free.
OSS isn't a bad initiative. Bundling your source code with the product you sell is a win/win situtation for both you and the customer. Giving away your product, just takes you out the equation and the money trail. It allows other people to profit off your work with no guarantees of payment. Execs at redhat make a fortune off the labors of other people.
I'd rather compete on the product. I'm a developer and rather have some VAR pick up my product and offer support on it, that way I can do what I like to do which is code. Sorry I didn't spent 4 years at college and 15 years of life coding, to do tech support. I'm not against the open source model, I'd rather sell my software will the source bundled since it gives customers the freedom to do what they want. I'm just against giving away my work for free and expecting to make money doing tech support.
So in other terms, you take a product that you haven't written and offer support services. How do the developers get compensated in this scheme? The article submitter is a developer, What is to prevent your company from picking up his product and offering support for it, thus leaving him out of the money loop?
"You can as well, with the advantage of having a lower TCO for your customers."
A lower TCO for your customer means less money for you. And here's the big kicker, if you open source your code and expect to make money off of support, what is going to prevent other companies competing against you on support? Look at IBM and redhat, they make money off supporting OSS projects, but you can't say they are main developers of these OSS projects. Whats to stop redhat bundling your product and offering support for it?
And downloading copyrighted songs and movies is copyright infringement in the eyes of slashbotters? Please stop the fanboyism, guy isn't stealing code, he's infringing on a copyright by not redistributing code and his changes.
If they used a text to speech engine and structured it like modern day phone IVRs. With a text to speach engine you could select music by artist, album or genre.
"I don't see Sony's player going anywhere. They feature a display, which Apple abandoned as being pointless in a tiny flash player (and they're right). And it's still more expensive."
Yeah cycling through 100+ songs(512 version) trying to find a song is really enjoyable.
Otherwise they'd be suing you for your sources. Not trying to troll, just pointing out how people talk about Microsoft rumours all time without worry about getting sued.
I don't see Microsoft suing any of wintel rumour sites. Hell someone even leaked a power point presentation for the upcoming xbox 2 describing the plans for xbox2 platform. Any lawsuits? Nope. Apple has gone after 3 sites. Only people I see Microsoft suing is spammers.
And I ask do you have ANY proof that information think secret published came from a person under an NDA?
Yah because suing someone isn't a financial burden to the victim. He doesn't need to hire a lawyer for $150 an hour for both court time and drafting up documents. He doesn't need to take time off work or school because court cases are at night and during the weekend and accomodate your schedule. Apple fanboys amaze me.
Recieving a cease and desist letter is the same as being sued? Thats like saying saying planning to murder someone then backing out, and murdering someone is the same. You slashbotters amaze me. I don't even think this think secret ordeal would have even made any headlines if the guy just recieved a cease and desist letter stating not to post confidential material. I'm willing to bet he has a bunch a letters from unhappy companies.
A lot sites get cease and desist letters. Must don't even bother to respond or if they do, it can be quite humerous.
Really? I don't think "think secret" was under an NDA contract. And we don't even know the the person who disclosed the information to "think secret" was under NDA contract. Hell it could be some random guy who over heard a conversation at star bucks that submitted it to "think secret". Please show me some proof that it came from a person who was under contract.
"but Apple's antics lately have borne a striking resemblance to some of those from Microsoft"
Really, I don't see microsoft suing any bloggers. I do however see Microsoft suing a bunch of spammers. Please show me evidense of microsoft of suing some poor smuck.
You spent $1000 on directivo HD? Thats $83 a month for 1 year, thats more than I pay a month for adelphia with their hd pvr and then you have to pay directv charges on top of it. You really must love tv.
Really? I just went to check for updates button in the extensions manager and it says there are no updates for firefox. How am I suppose to know it got released? Better question, how are my parents suppose to know it got released? They don't read slashdot or any other technology news source.
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How would google make money off ads if people pop'ed their mail?
As long as you don't redistribute you have no problems. At my old job we used to use openh323 stack because it saved us 1/2 million in licensing fees for a commercial voip stack. Problem was it was pure shit, we had to put 3 developers on it for a year to get a workable version. I don't think we ever released what they did, for fear our competitors would pick up our changes and actually get a workable voip stack for free.
What about IBM? Or are we just going to ignore the companies we like?
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Do you have proof it came from someone under an NDA? Otherwise apple is just taking a shot in the dark WITHOUT any real evidense.
Everyone is saying that its going to use disk caddys. If they, its a no brainer who is going to win.
OSS isn't a bad initiative. Bundling your source code with the product you sell is a win/win situtation for both you and the customer. Giving away your product, just takes you out the equation and the money trail. It allows other people to profit off your work with no guarantees of payment. Execs at redhat make a fortune off the labors of other people.
I'd rather compete on the product. I'm a developer and rather have some VAR pick up my product and offer support on it, that way I can do what I like to do which is code. Sorry I didn't spent 4 years at college and 15 years of life coding, to do tech support. I'm not against the open source model, I'd rather sell my software will the source bundled since it gives customers the freedom to do what they want. I'm just against giving away my work for free and expecting to make money doing tech support.
So in other terms, you take a product that you haven't written and offer support services. How do the developers get compensated in this scheme? The article submitter is a developer, What is to prevent your company from picking up his product and offering support for it, thus leaving him out of the money loop?
A lower TCO for your customer means less money for you. And here's the big kicker, if you open source your code and expect to make money off of support, what is going to prevent other companies competing against you on support? Look at IBM and redhat, they make money off supporting OSS projects, but you can't say they are main developers of these OSS projects. Whats to stop redhat bundling your product and offering support for it?
And downloading copyrighted songs and movies is copyright infringement in the eyes of slashbotters? Please stop the fanboyism, guy isn't stealing code, he's infringing on a copyright by not redistributing code and his changes.
If they used a text to speech engine and structured it like modern day phone IVRs. With a text to speach engine you could select music by artist, album or genre.
Yeah cycling through 100+ songs(512 version) trying to find a song is really enjoyable.
Otherwise they'd be suing you for your sources. Not trying to troll, just pointing out how people talk about Microsoft rumours all time without worry about getting sued.
And I ask do you have ANY proof that information think secret published came from a person under an NDA?
Gates isn't like most ceos? Well yeah, because Gates isn't the CEO of microsoft, steve ballmer is. Clue phone is ringing, maybe you should pick it up.
You maybe slow so here's another link with less text so not to confuse as much as the previous link. Reading is hard isn't it?
Here's a top 500 server that runs windows. Buy a clue thanks.
Yah because suing someone isn't a financial burden to the victim. He doesn't need to hire a lawyer for $150 an hour for both court time and drafting up documents. He doesn't need to take time off work or school because court cases are at night and during the weekend and accomodate your schedule. Apple fanboys amaze me.
A lot sites get cease and desist letters. Must don't even bother to respond or if they do, it can be quite humerous.
Really? I don't think "think secret" was under an NDA contract. And we don't even know the the person who disclosed the information to "think secret" was under NDA contract. Hell it could be some random guy who over heard a conversation at star bucks that submitted it to "think secret". Please show me some proof that it came from a person who was under contract.
Really, I don't see microsoft suing any bloggers. I do however see Microsoft suing a bunch of spammers. Please show me evidense of microsoft of suing some poor smuck.
I can't find any.
You spent $1000 on directivo HD? Thats $83 a month for 1 year, thats more than I pay a month for adelphia with their hd pvr and then you have to pay directv charges on top of it. You really must love tv.
I find it quite funny they are doing a power point presentation with screen shots of IE.
Really? I just went to check for updates button in the extensions manager and it says there are no updates for firefox. How am I suppose to know it got released? Better question, how are my parents suppose to know it got released? They don't read slashdot or any other technology news source.