I think your post has more to do with "OMFG!!!1 t3h gunz!!" than an argument on whether someone should fight back with whatever they have handy if they are pulled out their car.
No, not really - I've lived in a couple of countries where cops visibly carry guns, and visted tens of others where that is the case. I don't disagree that one should fight back if they believe they are being unjustifiably attacked (which would be the case if the employee made a mistake in identifying you as the guy who stole a stereo); I was more taking issue with your seemingly flippant approach to the taking of the person's life for doing so.
I'm aware that some NZ cops carry weapons, although they will almost always be concealed except for an Armed Offenders callout or whatever. If I was going for the utmost clarity, perhaps I should have said 'carry guns that are obviously visable'. Having said that, I'm not sure your comment about airport cops carrying guns is correct - I work at one of the three major international airports in NZ, and as part of my job have regular conversations with the airport cops. If they are all carrying a gun I'd be interested to know exactly where they are concealing it... unless a bucket of lube is also standard police issue these days as well.:)
It would be kind of stupid to get killed because you dragged the wrong guy out of a window.
Seems kinda stupid to me to kill someone because they were dragging you out of a window whatever the reason, never mind preventing a crime... but then again I live in a country where even the cops don't carry guns so *shrug* maybe such a gross over-reaction is deemed acceptable in your part of the world...
Goddam, where's my mod points when I need em?
I still view Telecom as one of the more evil corps out there. Although it's an interesting sort of thing that they also seem to be remarkably inept in so many ways. Evil and inept. Now there's a great combo.
And I don't even live in NZ currently...
According to the original story at http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2928008a28,00. html, this guy "... texted his friends a simple: "Hi. How are you?" message over and over again. He also texted a redundant Sim card taken out of an old phone so he did not annoy his friends too much.".
Many if not most of the data-entry type people that I support enter everything into their mainframe session in capitals. I'm not sure whether this is just some legacy passed down over the decades or if there is really a reason for it, but I know that it is as annoying as all hell every time I have to do anything on their PCs and spend the first 10 seconds TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS UNTIL I BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND REALISe what is going on...
For around $70 NZD (that's around $42 USD) I get 256k cable, with a 10Gb cap per month. And I'm about to move to Australia, where you pay even more and have a much lower cap (usually around 3Gb per month).
But the reality is that I don't view unlimited pr0n, , warez and pirated music as some kind of birthright. My connection is fast enough to do what I want to do in what I define as a reasonable amount of time (whether that be downloading the latest Debian distro or VPN'ing into work), and the price is reasonable enough.
New Zealand is a small and under-populated country with a hell of a lot of water between us and anybody else - broadband (midband, whatever) internet access is never going to be cheap.
But let's get real here folks - if it's that much of a problem, then turn your computer off, go out into the sunlight and live a little. Let's keep things in perspective, eh?
*shrug* I too used an XP 'shitbox' to download images via jigdo... took a couple of minutes to configure and then walked away and left it. No problems here, so I guess it aint impossible...
27.
Bon Jovi fan.
Went to their concert at the old Wembley Stadium in London a couple of years back. I don't really mind whether you think that they are crap/too old/not 'trendy' enough... they sure as hell know how to put on a great live show.
And hey, at least they write and perform their own music. That puts them several steps about most of so-called 'musicians' dominating the charts today IMO.
> I have yet to meet (in person) a technical person that pushes Microsoft that isn't being paid or rewarded in some way to do it.
Well, you can take 'paid or rewarded in some way' many different ways.
I mean, if I maintain systems for a company that uses only MS software, and say "Hey, you know, this new version of Microsoft XYZ is actually pretty good", then I meet your definition.
But then again, the same applies to the guy who works in a Linux shop that says "Wow, the latest Debian release rocks".
So I don't really know that your definition is particularly valid...
Unfortunately you did miss a bit - MAC addresses have nothing to do with NAT, or at least not in the way that you suggest.
From the 'How Stuff Works' linked to by an earlier poster, NAT can be implemented in these ways:
Static NAT - Mapping an unregistered IP address to a registered IP address on a one-to-one basis.
Dynamic NAT - Maps an unregistered IP address to a registered IP address from a group of registered IP addresses.
Overloading - A form of dynamic NAT that maps multiple unregistered IP addresses to a single registered IP address by using different ports. This is known also as PAT (Port Address Translation), single address NAT or port-level multiplexed NAT.
Overlapping - When the IP addresses used on your internal network are registered IP addresses in use on another network, the router must maintain a lookup table of these addresses so that it can intercept them and replace them with registered unique IP addresses.
None of these rely on the MAC address, which isn't part of the TCP packet information anyway (afaik).
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No, not really - I've lived in a couple of countries where cops visibly carry guns, and visted tens of others where that is the case. I don't disagree that one should fight back if they believe they are being unjustifiably attacked (which would be the case if the employee made a mistake in identifying you as the guy who stole a stereo); I was more taking issue with your seemingly flippant approach to the taking of the person's life for doing so.
I'm aware that some NZ cops carry weapons, although they will almost always be concealed except for an Armed Offenders callout or whatever. If I was going for the utmost clarity, perhaps I should have said 'carry guns that are obviously visable'. Having said that, I'm not sure your comment about airport cops carrying guns is correct - I work at one of the three major international airports in NZ, and as part of my job have regular conversations with the airport cops. If they are all carrying a gun I'd be interested to know exactly where they are concealing it
Seems kinda stupid to me to kill someone because they were dragging you out of a window whatever the reason, never mind preventing a crime ... but then again I live in a country where even the cops don't carry guns so *shrug* maybe such a gross over-reaction is deemed acceptable in your part of the world...
Goddam, where's my mod points when I need em? I still view Telecom as one of the more evil corps out there. Although it's an interesting sort of thing that they also seem to be remarkably inept in so many ways. Evil and inept. Now there's a great combo. And I don't even live in NZ currently...
According to the original story at http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2928008a28,00. html, this guy "... texted his friends a simple: "Hi. How are you?" message over and over again. He also texted a redundant Sim card taken out of an old phone so he did not annoy his friends too much.".
Many if not most of the data-entry type people that I support enter everything into their mainframe session in capitals. I'm not sure whether this is just some legacy passed down over the decades or if there is really a reason for it, but I know that it is as annoying as all hell every time I have to do anything on their PCs and spend the first 10 seconds TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS UNTIL I BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND REALISe what is going on...
Yeah mate, you've really got it tough.
For around $70 NZD (that's around $42 USD) I get 256k cable, with a 10Gb cap per month. And I'm about to move to Australia, where you pay even more and have a much lower cap (usually around 3Gb per month).
But the reality is that I don't view unlimited pr0n, , warez and pirated music as some kind of birthright. My connection is fast enough to do what I want to do in what I define as a reasonable amount of time (whether that be downloading the latest Debian distro or VPN'ing into work), and the price is reasonable enough.
New Zealand is a small and under-populated country with a hell of a lot of water between us and anybody else - broadband (midband, whatever) internet access is never going to be cheap.
But let's get real here folks - if it's that much of a problem, then turn your computer off, go out into the sunlight and live a little. Let's keep things in perspective, eh?
Dave
*shrug* I too used an XP 'shitbox' to download images via jigdo ... took a couple of minutes to configure and then walked away and left it. No problems here, so I guess it aint impossible...
27. ... they sure as hell know how to put on a great live show.
Bon Jovi fan.
Went to their concert at the old Wembley Stadium in London a couple of years back. I don't really mind whether you think that they are crap/too old/not 'trendy' enough
And hey, at least they write and perform their own music. That puts them several steps about most of so-called 'musicians' dominating the charts today IMO.
Well, you can take 'paid or rewarded in some way' many different ways.
I mean, if I maintain systems for a company that uses only MS software, and say "Hey, you know, this new version of Microsoft XYZ is actually pretty good", then I meet your definition.
But then again, the same applies to the guy who works in a Linux shop that says "Wow, the latest Debian release rocks".
So I don't really know that your definition is particularly valid...
Unfortunately you did miss a bit - MAC addresses have nothing to do with NAT, or at least not in the way that you suggest.
From the 'How Stuff Works' linked to by an earlier poster, NAT can be implemented in these ways:
Static NAT - Mapping an unregistered IP address to a registered IP address on a one-to-one basis.
Dynamic NAT - Maps an unregistered IP address to a registered IP address from a group of registered IP addresses.
Overloading - A form of dynamic NAT that maps multiple unregistered IP addresses to a single registered IP address by using different ports. This is known also as PAT (Port Address Translation), single address NAT or port-level multiplexed NAT.
Overlapping - When the IP addresses used on your internal network are registered IP addresses in use on another network, the router must maintain a lookup table of these addresses so that it can intercept them and replace them with registered unique IP addresses.
None of these rely on the MAC address, which isn't part of the TCP packet information anyway (afaik).