"They're also getting excited about music andbuying more than they were going to buy if they were doing other things with their time."
Spare me the party line, please. For every person who's "excited" about music there's ten who could care less as long as they have the most popular background music. I know too many students who download and who use the money they could have spent on music on more beer and clothes.
Actually, their problem is that they think if a little of something is good, then more is better and a lot must be fantastic. It's not that the brawl or the car chase was bad as much as it was that it simply went on and on and one and on. They could have easily cut those sections in half and gotten on with the story and the movies would have been better for it.
"What it doesn't do is answer the basic question of why we need another set of document formats."
Because it's a floor wax and a dessert topping? If it were just another WP I'd agree, but it's also an exceptionally easy to use and well thought out page layout program.
Some people care more about the work they can do with their computers, and how easily, than whether or not a format is "open" or not.
I probably don't have to say this, but one of the rationalizations torrent-types use is that the 30-second clips on iTunes or other sales sites won't let them listen to the entire song. As such, they're "forced" to download the entire thing to find out.
And of course, once they've decided they like it they'll buy a legitimate copy.
With this service, however, that excuse disappears. (Not like they can't hear the whole thing at a friends, on TV or radio, or in a music store, but I digress.)
But like I said, it's just a rationalization. As you point out, people who want to rip off music will just find another justification for doing so...
"Microsoft's implementation becomes the de facto standard and all others must (attempt to) conform to the behavior of that implementation..."
Didn't Java have a reference standard?
Two vendors can't even implement HTML to render the same results from a given set of pages, since default fonts, sizes, margins, padding, and so on for many elements are implementation dependent.
Just seems like another excuse (not that we need one) to bash MS...
In the case of the one company I consult for, they've transitioned their desktop environments almost entirely to iMacs, Power Macs, and MBPs. So in their case they'd get servers designed to work with their desktops and also have a much more homogenous environment for the admins to manage and maintain.
While that may not seem that much to you (Didn't I tell you fanboys to stand down?), it's a big deal to them. And since 15% of Apple's computer sales last quarter was in servers, I suspect that we're not the only ones with the same considerations.
While I probably would never want to put OS X on a cheap beige box, there is one case in which I'd kill to have a cross-platform version that would run on a Dell. And that case is OS X Server.
I have an entire rack of Dell Servers running Windows 2003. And while I can't afford to replace the whole thing with XServes, I'd pay to zap Windows in a heartbeat.
The only credit card agreement I saw that let you opt out of a provision did so by letting you close the account and then agreeing to pay off the card.
Unless you've failed to notice, large portions of the US are relatively empty. So unless you're proposing that we move large amounts of data from the east coast to the west and back again by meshing over farmer's WiFi networks, I think at least a "few" backbones are going to be needed for city-to-city traffic.
Some people need to spend more than a half-second on their "solutions".
"The RIAA does not care. You could have 50 files shaerd, 10 of them could be junk. But they don't know. They will come after you for all 50."
Know what? I don't care either. If you're dumb enough to torrent copywritten material, thinking that somehow you're anonymous because you're in your parents basement, then, frankly, you deserve to be caught.
One can argue hypothetical edge cases all day long, but the odds are that if they found a box with torrent software and with a boatload of files on it that none of them apply.
Actually, it's generally accepted that you can make a copy of media you own for backup purposes. Putting that copy onto a P2P system and making it public, however, implies intent to distribute said file to others (person TO person). Since you have no right to distribute, you're infringing. Secondarily, it's probable that you don't own the majority of files on the server, and that they were downloaded from other sources. As such, your "right to copy" just vanished, and all of those files are infringing.
Further, a torrent client/server works by hosting copies of files and redistributing pieces upon request. As such, it doesn't just contain "directions", but the actual content. It's not like you just said to a stranger, "The bookstore is over on 15th street."
You think that's a putdown because most "slick shiney consumer stuff" is, in fact, junk. True elegance is rare in that realm, but Apple has a way of putting all of the pieces together.
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"How many power plants would you have to take out to cripple New York City?"
Okay, but how many water-treatment plants would you need to take out? Two?
"... some genious [sic] showing the latest get-a-round."
That is so funny on so many levels.
"They're also getting excited about music andbuying more than they were going to buy if they were doing other things with their time."
Spare me the party line, please. For every person who's "excited" about music there's ten who could care less as long as they have the most popular background music. I know too many students who download and who use the money they could have spent on music on more beer and clothes.
"Why would someone else NEED to know that I'm downloading Ubuntu?"
'Cause you don't? Downloading Ubuntu is just a rationalization.
Actually, their problem is that they think if a little of something is good, then more is better and a lot must be fantastic. It's not that the brawl or the car chase was bad as much as it was that it simply went on and on and one and on. They could have easily cut those sections in half and gotten on with the story and the movies would have been better for it.
"Maybe it's true what one of my geek buddies says about open source: "None of us is as smart as all of us.""
As long as we're spouting homilies, how about "too many cooks spoil the broth?" Or any of several dozen about anything designed by a committee?
"What it doesn't do is answer the basic question of why we need another set of document formats."
Because it's a floor wax and a dessert topping? If it were just another WP I'd agree, but it's also an exceptionally easy to use and well thought out page layout program.
Some people care more about the work they can do with their computers, and how easily, than whether or not a format is "open" or not.
I probably don't have to say this, but one of the rationalizations torrent-types use is that the 30-second clips on iTunes or other sales sites won't let them listen to the entire song. As such, they're "forced" to download the entire thing to find out.
And of course, once they've decided they like it they'll buy a legitimate copy.
With this service, however, that excuse disappears. (Not like they can't hear the whole thing at a friends, on TV or radio, or in a music store, but I digress.)
But like I said, it's just a rationalization. As you point out, people who want to rip off music will just find another justification for doing so...
Ever hear of a disassembler? Decompiler?
Machine code is no protection.
"Microsoft's implementation becomes the de facto standard and all others must (attempt to) conform to the behavior of that implementation..."
Didn't Java have a reference standard?
Two vendors can't even implement HTML to render the same results from a given set of pages, since default fonts, sizes, margins, padding, and so on for many elements are implementation dependent.
Just seems like another excuse (not that we need one) to bash MS...
Since you can use this to listen to the entire song, maybe the torrent-types could use it instead of... naw. What am I thinking?
(Still, another torrent-rationalization bites the dust.)
"He means free as in hairy naked hippies frolicking across the meadow..."
You'll notice that you hardly ever see that anymore. Mostly because they finally had to get jobs and live in the real world...
In the case of the one company I consult for, they've transitioned their desktop environments almost entirely to iMacs, Power Macs, and MBPs. So in their case they'd get servers designed to work with their desktops and also have a much more homogenous environment for the admins to manage and maintain.
While that may not seem that much to you (Didn't I tell you fanboys to stand down?), it's a big deal to them. And since 15% of Apple's computer sales last quarter was in servers, I suspect that we're not the only ones with the same considerations.
You can go back to your "thinking" now.
"... and the ability to reach through my screen and slap people who say stupid things on the internet."
That was dropped from Vista along with the advanced file system.
"Once again, the pirated copy is superior to the original."
For as long as there are originals to pirate...
While I probably would never want to put OS X on a cheap beige box, there is one case in which I'd kill to have a cross-platform version that would run on a Dell. And that case is OS X Server.
I have an entire rack of Dell Servers running Windows 2003. And while I can't afford to replace the whole thing with XServes, I'd pay to zap Windows in a heartbeat.
(Linux fanboys stand down. Not interested.)
In a diesel-electric locomotive a variable-speed diesel powers a generator which powers the motors which turns the wheels.
In the system being discussed a constant-speed diesel powers a generator which charges a battery which powers the motors which turns the wheels.
Just a LITTLE different.
The only credit card agreement I saw that let you opt out of a provision did so by letting you close the account and then agreeing to pay off the card.
Unless you've failed to notice, large portions of the US are relatively empty. So unless you're proposing that we move large amounts of data from the east coast to the west and back again by meshing over farmer's WiFi networks, I think at least a "few" backbones are going to be needed for city-to-city traffic.
Some people need to spend more than a half-second on their "solutions".
You mean like Sprint, who simply terminated "problem" customers who complained too much?
Yep. Go ahead and call every day.
"The RIAA does not care. You could have 50 files shaerd, 10 of them could be junk. But they don't know. They will come after you for all 50."
Know what? I don't care either. If you're dumb enough to torrent copywritten material, thinking that somehow you're anonymous because you're in your parents basement, then, frankly, you deserve to be caught.
Yeah, it's not like they're doing routing table lookups and analysis on each packet now...
Wait.
Yes, it could be. But was it?
One can argue hypothetical edge cases all day long, but the odds are that if they found a box with torrent software and with a boatload of files on it that none of them apply.
Actually, it's generally accepted that you can make a copy of media you own for backup purposes. Putting that copy onto a P2P system and making it public, however, implies intent to distribute said file to others (person TO person). Since you have no right to distribute, you're infringing. Secondarily, it's probable that you don't own the majority of files on the server, and that they were downloaded from other sources. As such, your "right to copy" just vanished, and all of those files are infringing.
Further, a torrent client/server works by hosting copies of files and redistributing pieces upon request. As such, it doesn't just contain "directions", but the actual content. It's not like you just said to a stranger, "The bookstore is over on 15th street."
You think that's a putdown because most "slick shiney consumer stuff" is, in fact, junk. True elegance is rare in that realm, but Apple has a way of putting all of the pieces together.
And perhaps, more importantly, what to leave out.