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if the show could present the same kind of local irreverent humor about life there like it does for life in the US.
They could, but then the producers would have to be jailed and the voice-actors have their tongues cut out.
This is not exactly a yuk-it-up culture we're talking about here. Maybe if they could establish that Lisa was somehow adopted, and Jewish, and the writers could manage to have her stoned or gang-raped every other episode the series might have a chance, but left as is I predict it will make Scarborough Country's ratings in the West Village look like the Super Bowl.
Taking away your gun is a breach of your rights. Incarcerating you for standing on a soapbox shouting 'Bush is a Dirty Bunny Tickler' is a breach of your rights. A non-governmental entity collecting information you provide while surfing along on this Internet-thingy, that's no breach of your rights. Don't use Google. Don't surf the Internet-thingy. Use cash.
If the government forces you to use Google, or Google develops a monopoly on whatever the hell it does in an unfair manner, then let's have this conversation again. But now, today? Ain't no rights-breachin' goin' on here.
Now, the fact that Google seems to edge ever closer to The Dark Side (at least in the eyes of its Slashdot fanboy faithful) is certainly a daily source of amusement to me, but as for actual rights breaching? Wow. I'm not even sure they, as a corporate and not a governmental entity, are even capable of doing that.
D00D, leave my boy Taco alone!! He said "naval gazing." He was talking about taking the afternoon off and watching the Coast Guard maneuvers off the shore of Lake Michigan.
Guy works hard, wants to slip out early, watch some cool ships sail around, what's the problem?
The TV ad game is a constant push-me-pull-you between the agencies and the networks. The advertisers are all, "You expect me to pay WHAT for a:30 spot?" and the nets are all, "Look we have the stats that prove that this show consistently delivers the precise demographic of single-testicled malt-liquor drinking Asian males between the ages of 24 and 32 with annual incomes over $250K that your product positively SCREAMS out for, dude!"
Given another outlet for distribution, the advertisers are given the opportunity to counter that, sure, that may be, but OUR STATS show that 20-something one-balled Japanese-Americans are ALSO huge iPod users and early-adopter gadget freaks and so will probably be downloading the show, now that it's available, so we'll only advertise on the tube if you drop your spot rate by 18% and throw in some hookers and Knick tickets.
Doesn't matter if everybody or nobody is downloading; just the fact that there is a legitimate alternate venue is enough to make the ad guys turn the screws, and screw they will UNTIL some genuine research can be done re exactly who is downloading what and when, and whether or not the cannibilization is real or just perceived.
Wouldn't that be more like, "Gaiman's press agent calls Hemos on his cellphone, which he has on speed dial ever since the first time that/. editor fell all over himself gushing about his client" ?
"A Reader Writes" Wow. Not even the pretext of format or decorum any more.
("Kowtows to China" -- sometimes I crack myself up...)
So much for the "do no evil" schtick, huh?
Hey, once upon a time Gates was the clever, driven College drop-out sticking it to the Man, too, right? Eventually, they all embrace their inner Gekko.
Mebbe one of their two billionaire founders will sleep with his sister by mistake and the whole modern Greek Tragedy can be complete.
*sigh*
what's for lunch... haven't eaten lunch... starving...
Matter of perspective. When you drop the large rock upon the sleeping gorilla, bloodying his nose but failing to kill it, who's going to have the worse day, you or the gorilla?
One thing's for sure, however: It'll sure get noisey inside the cage, and be entertaining as hell for anyone able to watch it from a safe distance...
It won't sell well amongst American woman unless they replace the stars with Louis Vitton/Gucci/Burberry/Prada symbols.
Spoken like someone who's never been further east than Long Island. When it comes to obsession with designer chic, our European sistren make their New World counterparts all look like K-Mart shoppers in search of a Blue Light Special.
But the hi-tech angle won't tickle the Euros like it does the Americans; we remain gadget-obsessed, regardless of gender,
Wikipedia is the GeoCities of encyclopedias. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) Everybody gets a chance to do their thing, be an instant expert on a topic. Very empowering, probably a great ice-breaker at parties. And it's free. Obviously, it's un-cite-able beyond anything wider than a circle of friends.
The fact that it's a target for pranksters should also be obvious. Across America, in the back of schoolbuses, wagers are being made over who can give Elric of Melnibone a grandmother first, or how long that new play of Euripides will be undiscovered, or how many pro ball batting averages can be re-arranged for how long. It's fun to watch, probably fun to participate in, but you can't get bent out of shape by allowing yourself to take any of it seriously.
If information access is a part of how you make your living, or you are a genuinely serious student, you're paying for a subscription to britannica.com. Obviously.
the US of A don't like playing by the rules they so violently impose on the rest of the world...
Rules? D&D has rules. Global Domination, not so much.
We impose on the rest of the world what we can get away with imposing. The rest of the world likewise turns the screws as far as they can. Did you really think all that much had changed from the time of the Assyrians and Babylonians? Different gods, different faces on the coins, more lines on the map. Same species, though. Everyone protects their own interests in the name of hearth and family, everyone believes themselves to be the Good Guy. Last man standing gets to write the history of the battle.
Did that "original text" make it into the final Declaration of Independence? Being too lazy to check, I'll guess 'no,' cuz I know that many of the signers from the southern states were dead against producing any document that even sniffed of offering any form of independence to the two-legged cattle for which they had paid good money.
Similarly, many members of the Constitutional Congress were ginormous slaveholders, and would have set fire to the building had they thought for a moment that they were granting any kind of human rights to blacks.
The African slaves then, kind of like the unborn today, were regarded merely as "property" and "not quite human."
I'm not sure why you feel the need to elevate "art" above "mere information".
uhhhh, is that a trick question? Does "because I'm human" count as an answer, or if I say that do the alarms sound and the think-bots swoop down and try to assimilate me into the hivemind?
This kind of crap just irritates me. Copyright laws are painfully outdated in the digital age, and yet time and time again those who sell information (in whatever format, music, movie, now books) are constantly standing in the way of progress.
Here's the irritation: This ridiculous new age notion that music, art, novels, dramas, marionettes, whatever, can somehow be dismissed as merely "information" because they may now be rendered digitally.
A Grocery List is information. A novel is not.
Bitch about the length of term of copyright, fine. Legit arguments to be found on both sides. But please, Klaatu, don't call art "information." It's just wrong.
'Burning Man' was, and is a bunch of Wired-reading Californian rich kids
So Dead-On accurate I'm jealous I didn't write it myself.
Jeezus... "Burning Man"... hasn't anyone driven a stake through that cultural-seachange-icon-wannabe yet? Is Wired still pushing it? Is Wired still being published? If so, are their typefaces and layout design any more legible than they were a decade ago when the mag very nearly mattered?
[palsied twitch overtakes left hand] Man, why do I suddenly have the urge to order something I don't need from Kozmo, down a frappacino double-latte, and code up some push-feed clients...?
...and would whoever took my copy of the new Mondo 2000 please give it back?
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"On the road today, I saw a NIN sticker on a Hummer. A little voice Inside my head said, 'Don't look back. You can never look back.'" - (with apologies to Don Henley)
Is slashdot being paid by the winzip authors to post this story ?
Yes.
how about posting a story about an opensource/free compression package ?????
Because no money changed hands.
At the top of my screen there's a bar with links to "freshmeat, sourceforge, thinkgeek,
Because money has changed hands. See how easy that was?
Does Malda and his crew care about that stuff anymore
More people visiting this site use Windows than Linux (I'm not one of them, but facts are facts). Any journalist/entertainer whose pitches fly counter to what the majority of his audience is interested in catching will fail. Linux adds to the slashdot "geek cachet" -- that's what's being marketed here, not genuine Linux news, for which there are hundreds of supeior sources.
or is this just a sleazy and easy money making operation for them ?
Sleazy? From a guy calling himself "Adult Film Producer?" Get a grip, chum. As for "easy," well, they've got to put up with idiots like you and me pissing in their pool 24/7. I doubt anyone could pay me enough to wade through the whining here on a daily basis. Hardly "easy."
So we don't have to "deal with" the cashiers at a store? We're eliminating the need for human contact.
So... do you use ATM machines, or visit the delightfully human tellers every time you wish to deposit or withdraw cash?
I remember when ATM cards were introduced. There were a lot of people then, just like you, wailing and gnashing teeth over how we were de-humanizing our lives, how people were being replaced by robots, etc. etc. We marveled and whispered every time one of dem new-fangled ATM machines popped up on a nearby street corner. Coupla generations later and, what? We wonder how we ever got through life without cash-on-demand boxes.
Lines -- queues -- are inherently bad. Nobody wants to be on a line. It's got nothing to do with human interaction (If any of your meaningful human interaction occurs on a cashier's line you need to be placed on your local constabulary's 'Watch List.') Anything that eliminates or reduces lines is good.
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if the show could present the same kind of local irreverent humor about life there like it does for life in the US.
They could, but then the producers would have to be jailed and the voice-actors have their tongues cut out.
This is not exactly a yuk-it-up culture we're talking about here. Maybe if they could establish that Lisa was somehow adopted, and Jewish, and the writers could manage to have her stoned or gang-raped every other episode the series might have a chance, but left as is I predict it will make Scarborough Country's ratings in the West Village look like the Super Bowl.
I feel this is a breach of our rights.
Taking away your gun is a breach of your rights. Incarcerating you for standing on a soapbox shouting 'Bush is a Dirty Bunny Tickler' is a breach of your rights. A non-governmental entity collecting information you provide while surfing along on this Internet-thingy, that's no breach of your rights. Don't use Google. Don't surf the Internet-thingy. Use cash.
If the government forces you to use Google, or Google develops a monopoly on whatever the hell it does in an unfair manner, then let's have this conversation again. But now, today? Ain't no rights-breachin' goin' on here.
Now, the fact that Google seems to edge ever closer to The Dark Side (at least in the eyes of its Slashdot fanboy faithful) is certainly a daily source of amusement to me, but as for actual rights breaching? Wow. I'm not even sure they, as a corporate and not a governmental entity, are even capable of doing that.
D00D, leave my boy Taco alone!! He said "naval gazing." He was talking about taking the afternoon off and watching the Coast Guard maneuvers off the shore of Lake Michigan.
Guy works hard, wants to slip out early, watch some cool ships sail around, what's the problem?
Huh?
Cook some tofu burgers and be comfy, who in hell would sit at McD's and play games?
Who in hell can be comfy eating tofu burgers?
Different strokes, different folks, Ace. Judge not lest ye be judged.
Of course I'm just speculating.
:30 spot?" and the nets are all, "Look we have the stats that prove that this show consistently delivers the precise demographic of single-testicled malt-liquor drinking Asian males between the ages of 24 and 32 with annual incomes over $250K that your product positively SCREAMS out for, dude!"
You are absolutely correct.
The TV ad game is a constant push-me-pull-you between the agencies and the networks. The advertisers are all, "You expect me to pay WHAT for a
Given another outlet for distribution, the advertisers are given the opportunity to counter that, sure, that may be, but OUR STATS show that 20-something one-balled Japanese-Americans are ALSO huge iPod users and early-adopter gadget freaks and so will probably be downloading the show, now that it's available, so we'll only advertise on the tube if you drop your spot rate by 18% and throw in some hookers and Knick tickets.
Doesn't matter if everybody or nobody is downloading; just the fact that there is a legitimate alternate venue is enough to make the ad guys turn the screws, and screw they will UNTIL some genuine research can be done re exactly who is downloading what and when, and whether or not the cannibilization is real or just perceived.
I still think it's interesting. So fuck you.
You're a fanboy and an anonymous coward. Your opinion is meaningless.
Wouldn't that be more like, "Gaiman's press agent calls Hemos on his cellphone, which he has on speed dial ever since the first time that /. editor fell all over himself gushing about his client" ?
"A Reader Writes" Wow. Not even the pretext of format or decorum any more.
Huh? A /. post about Microsoft Windows WITHOUT bashing?
I'm guessing that MS and their Agency guys finally got around to having "The Talk" with their Ad Sales counterparts at OSDN...
Someone insert some witty windows-creaks-like-an-old-person comment.
Windows is not old. UNIX is old, and behaves as many older people do, working calmly and quietly in the background, running everything.
Windows is 20 years of age, and like most 20-year olds, is annoying, unable to multi-task well, and thinks the world revolves around it.
Lets start with WikiPedia:
Here's a tip: Anyone who is skeptical regarding whether a "blogger" is a journalist is NOT going to be swayed by a Wikipedia cite.
More than likely, it'll have just the opposite effect...
("Kowtows to China" -- sometimes I crack myself up...)
So much for the "do no evil" schtick, huh?
Hey, once upon a time Gates was the clever, driven College drop-out sticking it to the Man, too, right? Eventually, they all embrace their inner Gekko.
Mebbe one of their two billionaire founders will sleep with his sister by mistake and the whole modern Greek Tragedy can be complete.
*sigh*
what's for lunch... haven't eaten lunch... starving...
it's got to be a bad day over at Redmond
Matter of perspective. When you drop the large rock upon the sleeping gorilla, bloodying his nose but failing to kill it, who's going to have the worse day, you or the gorilla?
One thing's for sure, however: It'll sure get noisey inside the cage, and be entertaining as hell for anyone able to watch it from a safe distance...
At least this means that the movie can be multilingual with few problems.
How is this meaningful to you? Do you speak a lot of languages and like to practice your comprehension?
Spoken like someone who's never been further east than Long Island. When it comes to obsession with designer chic, our European sistren make their New World counterparts all look like K-Mart shoppers in search of a Blue Light Special.
But the hi-tech angle won't tickle the Euros like it does the Americans; we remain gadget-obsessed, regardless of gender,
Solar-Powered Handbag lamp. Cuz the world was screaming out for one of those. Sh'yea, right.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I want to finish my drink.
Wikipedia is the GeoCities of encyclopedias. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) Everybody gets a chance to do their thing, be an instant expert on a topic. Very empowering, probably a great ice-breaker at parties. And it's free. Obviously, it's un-cite-able beyond anything wider than a circle of friends.
The fact that it's a target for pranksters should also be obvious. Across America, in the back of schoolbuses, wagers are being made over who can give Elric of Melnibone a grandmother first, or how long that new play of Euripides will be undiscovered, or how many pro ball batting averages can be re-arranged for how long. It's fun to watch, probably fun to participate in, but you can't get bent out of shape by allowing yourself to take any of it seriously.
If information access is a part of how you make your living, or you are a genuinely serious student, you're paying for a subscription to britannica.com. Obviously.
the US of A don't like playing by the rules they so violently impose on the rest of the world...
Rules? D&D has rules. Global Domination, not so much.
We impose on the rest of the world what we can get away with imposing. The rest of the world likewise turns the screws as far as they can. Did you really think all that much had changed from the time of the Assyrians and Babylonians? Different gods, different faces on the coins, more lines on the map. Same species, though. Everyone protects their own interests in the name of hearth and family, everyone believes themselves to be the Good Guy. Last man standing gets to write the history of the battle.
"Rules." That was a good one.
Rules...
Did that "original text" make it into the final Declaration of Independence? Being too lazy to check, I'll guess 'no,' cuz I know that many of the signers from the southern states were dead against producing any document that even sniffed of offering any form of independence to the two-legged cattle for which they had paid good money.
Similarly, many members of the Constitutional Congress were ginormous slaveholders, and would have set fire to the building had they thought for a moment that they were granting any kind of human rights to blacks.
The African slaves then, kind of like the unborn today, were regarded merely as "property" and "not quite human."
I'm not sure why you feel the need to elevate "art" above "mere information".
uhhhh, is that a trick question? Does "because I'm human" count as an answer, or if I say that do the alarms sound and the think-bots swoop down and try to assimilate me into the hivemind?
This kind of crap just irritates me. Copyright laws are painfully outdated in the digital age, and yet time and time again those who sell information (in whatever format, music, movie, now books) are constantly standing in the way of progress.
Here's the irritation: This ridiculous new age notion that music, art, novels, dramas, marionettes, whatever, can somehow be dismissed as merely "information" because they may now be rendered digitally.
A Grocery List is information. A novel is not.
Bitch about the length of term of copyright, fine. Legit arguments to be found on both sides. But please, Klaatu, don't call art "information." It's just wrong.
So Dead-On accurate I'm jealous I didn't write it myself.
Jeezus... "Burning Man"... hasn't anyone driven a stake through that cultural-seachange-icon-wannabe yet? Is Wired still pushing it? Is Wired still being published? If so, are their typefaces and layout design any more legible than they were a decade ago when the mag very nearly mattered?
[palsied twitch overtakes left hand] Man, why do I suddenly have the urge to order something I don't need from Kozmo, down a frappacino double-latte, and code up some push-feed clients...?
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"On the road today, I saw a NIN sticker on a Hummer. A little voice Inside my head said, 'Don't look back. You can never look back.'" - (with apologies to Don Henley)
Sure, it might be considered a blog by some, but it definitely isn't, according to Wikipedia:
Wait, you're citing Wikipedia as to what constitutes a blog?!
My head just exploded. Thanks a lot.
Is slashdot being paid by the winzip authors to post this story ?
Yes.
how about posting a story about an opensource/free compression package ?????
Because no money changed hands.
At the top of my screen there's a bar with links to "freshmeat, sourceforge, thinkgeek,
Because money has changed hands. See how easy that was?
Does Malda and his crew care about that stuff anymore
More people visiting this site use Windows than Linux (I'm not one of them, but facts are facts). Any journalist/entertainer whose pitches fly counter to what the majority of his audience is interested in catching will fail. Linux adds to the slashdot "geek cachet" -- that's what's being marketed here, not genuine Linux news, for which there are hundreds of supeior sources.
or is this just a sleazy and easy money making operation for them ?
Sleazy? From a guy calling himself "Adult Film Producer?" Get a grip, chum. As for "easy," well, they've got to put up with idiots like you and me pissing in their pool 24/7. I doubt anyone could pay me enough to wade through the whining here on a daily basis. Hardly "easy."
You must be older than the average slashdotter, since that was in the 1960s :-)
I've got neckties older than the average slashdotter, which is less a commentary about my couture than it is about the level of discourse here.
But I digress...
So we don't have to "deal with" the cashiers at a store? We're eliminating the need for human contact .
So... do you use ATM machines, or visit the delightfully human tellers every time you wish to deposit or withdraw cash?
I remember when ATM cards were introduced. There were a lot of people then, just like you, wailing and gnashing teeth over how we were de-humanizing our lives, how people were being replaced by robots, etc. etc. We marveled and whispered every time one of dem new-fangled ATM machines popped up on a nearby street corner. Coupla generations later and, what? We wonder how we ever got through life without cash-on-demand boxes.
Lines -- queues -- are inherently bad. Nobody wants to be on a line. It's got nothing to do with human interaction (If any of your meaningful human interaction occurs on a cashier's line you need to be placed on your local constabulary's 'Watch List.') Anything that eliminates or reduces lines is good.