I just started at stock speeds (ie DDR2 @ 800) with a standard multiplier and checked system stability with OCCT (better for multicore) to make sure everything was fine at stock and the temps were good.
Then just keep bumping it up nearer to 1066. OCCT has been really helpful for identifying issues quickly for me, faster than Prime95 / memtest86+.
Yeah, the last Asus that worked well for me was an A7N8X Deluxe and even that had BIOS troubles in the early versions.
I had TWO Asus P35 based boards since then and both were returned as their DDR2 interfaces were not happy with Corsair Dominator XMS2 @ 1066. Admittedly, the Gigabyte board has the same issue - the Abit on the same chipset does not.
I'm gutted too, I currently have an Abit IP35 Pro, which is the only P35 chipset based board I could get to work with the Dominator DDR2-1066 I use!
I will be sad to see them go, I really like their recent parts. My motherboard overclocks fantastically, taking an E6750 from 2.66 GHz to 3.3 GHz with rock solid stability without having to shell out crazy money for the X38, X48 etc.
License does not mean "a pile of text", it is a abstract concept which grants or takes away one or more rights in an agreement with the holder of the rights.
If you have no license to a work, you are infringing copyright. If you have an explicit license which was legally agreed at purchase.
If you have don't have an explicit license, you have been given an implicit license to the copyrighted work, assuming whoever you bought it from has the right to offer you that.
My understanding is that the only license is usually the implicit license granted under copyright law.
You purchased an object which contains copyright content.
By purchasing said object, you were granted a license by the copyright holder to view the copyrighted content within, exactly the same as a book, for example.
Copyright laws then grants you "fair use" of the copyrighted content, in cases where fair applies as described by the law and also grants you a right to make a sole backup copy of the protected content.
So I think you purchased both?
IANAL, so correct me if I'm wrong?
I think you have possibly underestimated the growth of non-geek usage of iPlayer, 4OD, Sky Player and other source of high quality legal video downloads?
I was recently surprised to learn a lot of my non-geek acquaintances and family members use at least one of these services. One guy has even noticed his free upgrade to 10Mbit ADSL and the associated decrease in time to get episodes.
Agreed - even if you buy "sweet spot" rigs twice as often as the bleeding edge guy, on average over the time involved you will have a better gaming experience.
"Bleeding edge" guy is essentially paying for the R&D which makes our 2nd generation cards, motherboards and processors cheaper and less power hungry.
I have had a very similar experience - always being an AMD fan prior to this build (AthlonXP Barton was the last one) and now have a C2D E6750 which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
In my experience, I got fast DDR2 1066 RAM, lowered the FSB:CPU ratio, pushed the core voltage up to 1.4V and put the clock speed up to give about a 3.4 GHz clock speed, from the stock 2.6 GHz. Everything still runs happily like this, even on the stock cooler.
I even can feel the difference in Far Cry 2 with all the physics set to Very High.
Yes, you seem to have hit the nail on the head, that a current gen AMD/ATI card which I will be replacing in the new year is currently "being worked on".
This is the real problem, by the time good drivers come out, it will be verging on obselete in terms of high-end gaming.
If I wanted crappy graphics, I would go back to my 360 / PS3.
On a more positive note though, Deus Ex 2 is a right romp! I just replayed Deus Ex 2, Half Life and both Max Payne games recently, as I was abroad with only a laptop to play on.
XP cannot use DX10 and DX11's interfaces, so the publishers will be pressed to make the games require these interfaces, or at least look a lot worse without.
I think we all know by now most of Crysis' DX10 features were actually possible in the DX9 pipeline, some can even be hacked on easily.
The same will happen... XP will be retired by forcing it to become obselete.
PC is not going anywhere. Even if just for the fact for every hard core gamer there's a hundred office-bound Flash game players, flitting between Bejewelled and Facebook.
I play PS3 and 360, I think probably about 20 hours in the last month.
I have spent the rest of my gaming time playing CoD:WAW beta, Far Cry 2, the new Cobra 11 demo and GRID... all of them are a lot prettier on PC, I can swap happily between keyboard, mouse and 360 pad as required, and get the bonus of Teamspeak with my clan.
Consoles are OK, but I only have them for "console exclusive" titles. They'll never take my PC!;)
I have switched sides twice during that time, have had bad cards from both manufacturers during the last 5 years and will continue to now buy based on individual product reviews.
The landscape for most hi-tech products seems to change so quickly now, and suppliers / manufacturers change at such short notice that it is no longer possible to rely upon a vendor's name as a sign of quality.
In the worst cases, even the same product with the same part number is a different product with different performance characteristics a few months down the line. This happens a LOT in the USB flash drive market.
If that's how it is going to go, intuition seems to point towards the lowest cost per coverage still being fiber on the ground?
I would have thought the satellite solution is aimed at providing coverage to areas where the density of people on the ground is too low for base stations to make sense, which is where (certainly in the UK) we have the most problems at the moment.
We have a number of areas with no ADSL, and big mountains stopping the 2g/3g wireless networks where satellite could hopefully provide the remaining coverage.
As an early adopter, I would have thought you may by now have noticed it is called "Blu-ray", not "Blue ray", which sounds more like a lewd comedian!
Admittedly it is a ludicrous name, which probably is not helping uptake, I still hear a lot of people calling it "hd films" or "hd movies" and not being aware of the Blu-ray name.
I think you are right though, I enjoy occasional BD movies, and it is nice to see the better quality (in most cases). However, my mainstay is still definitely cheap DVDs!
I've always been of the mindset that my laptop has a power lead, so when I want to move things around quickly, I have no real issue plugging in a gigabit network cable from down the side of the couch.
I guess it's good for not having to run infrastructure though - rented places, student halls, or just making the house prettier!
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But I really loved my A7N8X Deluxe - I was gutted when its replacement didn't work with fast RAM.
I loved it so much I still have it as a toy file server - shame it eats more power than a C2D for a lot less performance!
I just started at stock speeds (ie DDR2 @ 800) with a standard multiplier and checked system stability with OCCT (better for multicore) to make sure everything was fine at stock and the temps were good.
Then just keep bumping it up nearer to 1066.
OCCT has been really helpful for identifying issues quickly for me, faster than Prime95 / memtest86+.
Yeah, the last Asus that worked well for me was an A7N8X Deluxe and even that had BIOS troubles in the early versions.
I had TWO Asus P35 based boards since then and both were returned as their DDR2 interfaces were not happy with Corsair Dominator XMS2 @ 1066. Admittedly, the Gigabyte board has the same issue - the Abit on the same chipset does not.
I'm gutted too, I currently have an Abit IP35 Pro, which is the only P35 chipset based board I could get to work with the Dominator DDR2-1066 I use!
I will be sad to see them go, I really like their recent parts. My motherboard overclocks fantastically, taking an E6750 from 2.66 GHz to 3.3 GHz with rock solid stability without having to shell out crazy money for the X38, X48 etc.
Notice what happens if you rotate an L shaped piece into an already occupied position?
Another great win for JavaScript.
Read paragraph two of the following...
http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/license.html
License does not mean "a pile of text", it is a abstract concept which grants or takes away one or more rights in an agreement with the holder of the rights.
If you have no license to a work, you are infringing copyright. If you have an explicit license which was legally agreed at purchase.
If you have don't have an explicit license, you have been given an implicit license to the copyrighted work, assuming whoever you bought it from has the right to offer you that.
My understanding is that the only license is usually the implicit license granted under copyright law. You purchased an object which contains copyright content. By purchasing said object, you were granted a license by the copyright holder to view the copyrighted content within, exactly the same as a book, for example. Copyright laws then grants you "fair use" of the copyrighted content, in cases where fair applies as described by the law and also grants you a right to make a sole backup copy of the protected content. So I think you purchased both? IANAL, so correct me if I'm wrong?
Funnily enough, I had this yesterday, only to discover THE MESSAGE IS RIGHT!
I plugged in the USB keyboard, the backlight came on, I pressed F1, and the machine booted.
Motherboard is an Abit IP 35 Pro with BIOS USB Keyboard support enabled for disbelievers who want to try it...
I think you have possibly underestimated the growth of non-geek usage of iPlayer, 4OD, Sky Player and other source of high quality legal video downloads?
I was recently surprised to learn a lot of my non-geek acquaintances and family members use at least one of these services. One guy has even noticed his free upgrade to 10Mbit ADSL and the associated decrease in time to get episodes.
Agreed - even if you buy "sweet spot" rigs twice as often as the bleeding edge guy, on average over the time involved you will have a better gaming experience.
"Bleeding edge" guy is essentially paying for the R&D which makes our 2nd generation cards, motherboards and processors cheaper and less power hungry.
I have had a very similar experience - always being an AMD fan prior to this build (AthlonXP Barton was the last one) and now have a C2D E6750 which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
In my experience, I got fast DDR2 1066 RAM, lowered the FSB:CPU ratio, pushed the core voltage up to 1.4V and put the clock speed up to give about a 3.4 GHz clock speed, from the stock 2.6 GHz.
Everything still runs happily like this, even on the stock cooler.
I even can feel the difference in Far Cry 2 with all the physics set to Very High.
Yes, you seem to have hit the nail on the head, that a current gen AMD/ATI card which I will be replacing in the new year is currently "being worked on".
This is the real problem, by the time good drivers come out, it will be verging on obselete in terms of high-end gaming.
If I wanted crappy graphics, I would go back to my 360 / PS3.
On a more positive note though, Deus Ex 2 is a right romp! I just replayed Deus Ex 2, Half Life and both Max Payne games recently, as I was abroad with only a laptop to play on.
Hope you enjoy DE2! :-)
I suspect MS will make it compare.
XP cannot use DX10 and DX11's interfaces, so the publishers will be pressed to make the games require these interfaces, or at least look a lot worse without.
I think we all know by now most of Crysis' DX10 features were actually possible in the DX9 pipeline, some can even be hacked on easily.
The same will happen... XP will be retired by forcing it to become obselete.
Steam et al are the future.
Quality indie games are helping.
PC is not going anywhere. Even if just for the fact for every hard core gamer there's a hundred office-bound Flash game players, flitting between Bejewelled and Facebook.
Hehe, I respectfully disagree...
I play PS3 and 360, I think probably about 20 hours in the last month.
I have spent the rest of my gaming time playing CoD:WAW beta, Far Cry 2, the new Cobra 11 demo and GRID... all of them are a lot prettier on PC, I can swap happily between keyboard, mouse and 360 pad as required, and get the bonus of Teamspeak with my clan.
Consoles are OK, but I only have them for "console exclusive" titles. They'll never take my PC! ;)
Photoshop's OK you know... Codeweavers have done a decent job of doing Adobe's hard work for them.
It's mainly the stuff that relies on quirky and new hardware or niche custom applications that cause the real problems for Linux.
He said "better" not "more".
Quality not quantity, sadly.
I love Linux, it's good for work, good for application and data servers, but for me, there is a problem.
I am a gamer and I like trying out new hardware. Both of these always pose problems under Linux.
Good stable drivers take time, and require the support of hardware vendors.
Sadly, this means I still have to own and use a copy of Windows XP or give up on games and toys. Ain't gonna happen!
I have switched sides twice during that time, have had bad cards from both manufacturers during the last 5 years and will continue to now buy based on individual product reviews.
The landscape for most hi-tech products seems to change so quickly now, and suppliers / manufacturers change at such short notice that it is no longer possible to rely upon a vendor's name as a sign of quality.
In the worst cases, even the same product with the same part number is a different product with different performance characteristics a few months down the line. This happens a LOT in the USB flash drive market.
Signed integer limit is +32767.
32768 is only possible in the - domain!
Did it not appear with the whole Active Desktop thing associated with IE4.0?
If that's how it is going to go, intuition seems to point towards the lowest cost per coverage still being fiber on the ground?
I would have thought the satellite solution is aimed at providing coverage to areas where the density of people on the ground is too low for base stations to make sense, which is where (certainly in the UK) we have the most problems at the moment.
We have a number of areas with no ADSL, and big mountains stopping the 2g/3g wireless networks where satellite could hopefully provide the remaining coverage.
However, without any advancements, we'd still have hordes of barbarians, which also leads to hundreds of thousands of dead people.
Without the tech, it's a much slower death too!
Definitely worth bearing in mind how much of the industrialisation we see in the world is purely a result of the first two world wars.
As an early adopter, I would have thought you may by now have noticed it is called "Blu-ray", not "Blue ray", which sounds more like a lewd comedian!
Admittedly it is a ludicrous name, which probably is not helping uptake, I still hear a lot of people calling it "hd films" or "hd movies" and not being aware of the Blu-ray name.
I think you are right though, I enjoy occasional BD movies, and it is nice to see the better quality (in most cases). However, my mainstay is still definitely cheap DVDs!
I too was confused by this - and would LOVE to see a sequel to the series of Little Big Adventure games.
The combination of an interesting world, a wide variety of puzzles, amusing diversions and some pretty amusing jokes works so well in LBA.
I replayed LBA2 last year - many games you get back out do not live up to the fond memories, however LBA2 was definitely worth getting back out.
If anyone who enjoys puzzle adventure action games has not played it (!) you really should do so!
I've always been of the mindset that my laptop has a power lead, so when I want to move things around quickly, I have no real issue plugging in a gigabit network cable from down the side of the couch.
I guess it's good for not having to run infrastructure though - rented places, student halls, or just making the house prettier!