If you can think of a way to get him out without killing him, then I'm all for it, but so far our only options are to leave him there until he decides to move out, or detach him and let him die.
so then you would be for a law which bans abortion but guarentees a woman the right to a c section when the baby is mature enough to survive on its own (say 36 weeks?). After all I have just provided you with a way to get the baby out on a set time table no matter what the beby wants.
BTW the babby aint gonna stay in there until they are good and ready, after 42 weeks the placenta starts to die off and if the baby aint born it will follow.
How so? Lets say as a laptop its completely worthless in three years uts still going to be worth 99.9 percent of its value (and thats assuming diamonds and gold dont appreciate. Compare that to a 4k dell which will lose 99.9 % of its value in that time frame.
Dont get me wrong, I am a huge fan of China. They have the most people, so it makes sense that they would pollute more than other nations.
Hey other than rolling over their own people with tanks they are a great member of the world community;).
Of course they should be gien leway on how much pollution they put out they are a huge nation but they are not even trying to be responsable. Its not so much that I mind what was in Kyoto but, as you say, its a fix for western guilt junkies. Go back to your nations and instiitute laws at that level you dont need the international community to clean your own house for you so why give them the keys.
Fighter planes dont run on Ethanol, so whatever.
They dont run on coal either but thats the major source of pollution they are putting out.
Regarding Kyoto, I could not agree more. Exempting the fastest Growing Economy (and Polluter) in the world made that treaty a joke. But say what you want about the Chinese they have stones, they were preyed upon by foreign interest for hundreds of years and they dont bend to them anymore.
Wish I had mod points, this sums it up pretty nicely. There are enough skeptics out there (on man made Global Warming) that they should not be labelled kooks but we can all Agree Pollution is pretty bad! I am very much a fan of alternaitve fuels for dozens of reasons but Golbal Warming is not in the top 5 because frankly A guy who could not pass geology in college (Al Gore) does not hold alot of wieght to me.
Lets talk about how alternative renewable fuels could reduce global conflict, correct health issues caused by pollutents, improve our quality of life, make our lifestyles more sustainable, and leave a better planet to the following generations. Lets fund the hell out of WindFarms, Solar Energy, Wave Energy (Ocean), Hydrogen, BioFuels based on areas we can agree on.
Truth be known Engineers generally make better programmers. I think a they tend to be much more systematic in their approach to problem solving and are better trained at being a small part of a big project. A comp SCI major will rip out code at an impressive clip but the knowledge under the hood and the ability to adapt is limited.
In the beginning of the twentieth century, the United States had really free immigration laws.
People were denied entry for everything from whopping caugh to severe myopia. If you were in no condition to provide for yourself (this is before welfare, food stamps,....) or if no American would take care of your provision you were sent back on the boat you came in on. America in 1900 had a huge demand for labor that it could not fill so if you were healthy enough to work you were sent here and, other than a public education for your kids, got little from the Government.
Then people got racist and tightened the immigration laws.
Up until a few years ago construction jobs were choice jobs! Working your way through college? Construction has a seasonal peak. Are you not college material? Construction can provide a middle class life. Its not until contractors and companies started to depress wages with illegal labor that construction jobs suddenly became 'jobs Americans wont do'.
Summer harvesting jobs also used to be good labor for High shcool kids in rural areas but we can pay illegals below the minimum wage off the books so we will do that as well.
Frankly Im sick of this notion that (1) People are entitled to come here illegally, (2) Companies are entitled to cheap labor, (3) Manual labor should be low paying, (4) That the US has not *always* had restrictions on Immigration.
Democrats want the illegals for votes, Neo-Cons want them to break unions, And Limo-Liberals want them to clean their homes. Really is only moderate middle class Americans who are losing out.
Yea they have to live in a world where pay is not just based on time served but on merit... They might be real upset to join the rest of the owrking world..
"The problem, of course, is that these people don't object to vaccines."
Wow, drive by stupidity... Many people object to vaccines irregardless of the nature of the disease..
So youre comparing a vaccination to a broken leg? hey I can play bad analogy..
I totally think the state should be able to dictate who can even have kids, afterall why let people who are prone to genetic diseases reproduce it society thats important. Actually given the population problem we should have the government mandate abortions after the second kid (or to be more civil just tie the tubes after a second baby is born)./sarc
A broken leg is an injury, lack of a vacinniation is *not* an injury and if you want to open the door for the state to make medical decisions for individules move somewhere like China where they already do that.
Any vaccine (or medication, for that matter) can be thought safe for decades, and only later found to have side effects.
Exactly the point, let parents make this decision if, when the kid is 18, she wants to do it without permission its then her call
How many girls and women do you want to get cancer while you wait for your illusory certainty?
Its amazing how you acknowledge that this vaccine can have terrible side effects and then try to make the OP look as if they want people to get cancer, heck the OP did not say this should not be available he shae not mandatory.
This skepticism, if it call be called that, could be raised over the flu shot, typhoid, rubella, or any number of other shots now given. But the skepticism isn't raised, because the only reason this is controversial is that the religious right is muddying the waters, just like they do over condoms, sex-ed, and so on.
What?!?! There are many very large and vocal groups who raise the issue of vaccination safety all the time. I for one only had my daughters get the vaccinations for the diseases that could kill an infant during their first year. Why the hell would I give my 3mo daughter a heb-b vaccine? Your claim that nobody is saying anything about other vaccines is either deceipt or stupidity.
Hi Mao nice to meet you. Dang them people for having Religious faith and their own beleifes they wish to pass on, we should round up their kids into state orphanges so they cant be taught their parents beliefs, theyll be better servants of the state that way.
A way to instill them with fear for there entire lives, and a way for people to manipulate them and abuse them.
Uh huh, right instead lets have the state schools teach them to fear Global Warming their whole lives, or intolerance, so long as is its a state sanctioned and secular point of view its a mercy to teach it..
The moment any religeon appraoches anyone that didn't specifically ask, that religeon should be outlawed
Does this count the freaks who protest animal cruelty outside of KFC?
The idea was you can practice religeon, but not interfere with government, the wall between Church and state is falling.
And what good does having Government in peoples personal lives telling them what they can teach their kids in regards to faith helps the wall between church and state?
There is no legitimate medical opposition to this.
Yes beacuse tested drugs *never* end up having long term unknown side effects.
The opposition is coming from the fucking imbeciles who thinks it's good to threaten children, even their own, with cancer to keep them from having sex.
Or from people who just dont want the state dictating their kids medical care!
Nobody here is against Merck making the vaccine or people giving to their kids what they are against is the federal government mandating what vaccines you give your kids. HPV is not polio, its not transmitted through the air and like it or not a kids sexual education should be the pervue of the parents. I am *really* against the state run by George Bush (or Obama, or Rudy, or Hillary) making medical decisions for me as a parent.
I find it funny that all these 'one less' commercials mention HPV and how great the vaccine is but neglect to infrom people of how you get HPV...
Your take is wrong, this is coming from someone who lived that life and found every justification under the sun for it. It was not until I wised up and stopped liveing that lifestyle until I realized how damagin both to myself and the woman of the hour it really was.
In totality the Bible clearly comes out against premarital sex.
I dont prefer any one but I like the NAS. I have no problem with the KJV and when doing a detailed study (rather than just my daily quiet time) I read more than one translation and usually reference the greek and hebrew from which is was drawn.
It is excluded as Fornication which is by definition the act of sex outside of marriage. "
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
I'm sorry how many have you been through? what qualifies you to say that most pre-marriage classes dont include information about Sex? Among the Christians I know and have discussed pre marriage counseling with (five or six couples) all of them dealt as much with sex as anything else.
Any biblical based marriage counseling will tell you that its a wonderful gift, and physical and spiritual bond, and an experience more pleasurable than most anything else you can do. What snarks off people who bash chriustians as prudes is the belief that sex by nature forms a spiritual bond (ie you are tied to the person you have sex with) and thus is *only* ok in marriage.
"'Gaming devices like the Wii and the PSP aren't just for fun games anymore. You're able to surf the net, chat with friends, email, and view porn because of its internet access. Kids know this but parents don't!"
Im not saying that parents should ban the Wii or assume their kids are pr0n freaks because they use one but parents should be away that the game console their kids have allow them to browse the internet, chat with lord knows who and yes, view objectionable material (depending on what you consider to be objectionable).
How sad is it when a scientist sees something for the first time and rather than say 'I have no clue whay this is happening, I should study the reason this is happening' says 'This might be because of gloabal working, I should go look for a link'.
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so then you would be for a law which bans abortion but guarentees a woman the right to a c section when the baby is mature enough to survive on its own (say 36 weeks?). After all I have just provided you with a way to get the baby out on a set time table no matter what the beby wants.
BTW the babby aint gonna stay in there until they are good and ready, after 42 weeks the placenta starts to die off and if the baby aint born it will follow.
How so? Lets say as a laptop its completely worthless in three years uts still going to be worth 99.9 percent of its value (and thats assuming diamonds and gold dont appreciate. Compare that to a 4k dell which will lose 99.9 % of its value in that time frame.
Hey other than rolling over their own people with tanks they are a great member of the world community ;).
Of course they should be gien leway on how much pollution they put out they are a huge nation but they are not even trying to be responsable. Its not so much that I mind what was in Kyoto but, as you say, its a fix for western guilt junkies. Go back to your nations and instiitute laws at that level you dont need the international community to clean your own house for you so why give them the keys.
Fighter planes dont run on Ethanol, so whatever.
They dont run on coal either but thats the major source of pollution they are putting out.
Regarding Kyoto, I could not agree more. Exempting the fastest Growing Economy (and Polluter) in the world made that treaty a joke. But say what you want about the Chinese they have stones, they were preyed upon by foreign interest for hundreds of years and they dont bend to them anymore.
Wish I had mod points, this sums it up pretty nicely. There are enough skeptics out there (on man made Global Warming) that they should not be labelled kooks but we can all Agree Pollution is pretty bad! I am very much a fan of alternaitve fuels for dozens of reasons but Golbal Warming is not in the top 5 because frankly A guy who could not pass geology in college (Al Gore) does not hold alot of wieght to me. Lets talk about how alternative renewable fuels could reduce global conflict, correct health issues caused by pollutents, improve our quality of life, make our lifestyles more sustainable, and leave a better planet to the following generations. Lets fund the hell out of WindFarms, Solar Energy, Wave Energy (Ocean), Hydrogen, BioFuels based on areas we can agree on.
Truth be known Engineers generally make better programmers. I think a they tend to be much more systematic in their approach to problem solving and are better trained at being a small part of a big project. A comp SCI major will rip out code at an impressive clip but the knowledge under the hood and the ability to adapt is limited.
In the beginning of the twentieth century, the United States had really free immigration laws.
People were denied entry for everything from whopping caugh to severe myopia. If you were in no condition to provide for yourself (this is before welfare, food stamps, ....) or if no American would take care of your provision you were sent back on the boat you came in on. America in 1900 had a huge demand for labor that it could not fill so if you were healthy enough to work you were sent here and, other than a public education for your kids, got little from the Government.
Then people got racist and tightened the immigration laws.
Oh yea there was no real racism in the 1800's.
Up until a few years ago construction jobs were choice jobs! Working your way through college? Construction has a seasonal peak. Are you not college material? Construction can provide a middle class life. Its not until contractors and companies started to depress wages with illegal labor that construction jobs suddenly became 'jobs Americans wont do'. Summer harvesting jobs also used to be good labor for High shcool kids in rural areas but we can pay illegals below the minimum wage off the books so we will do that as well. Frankly Im sick of this notion that (1) People are entitled to come here illegally, (2) Companies are entitled to cheap labor, (3) Manual labor should be low paying, (4) That the US has not *always* had restrictions on Immigration. Democrats want the illegals for votes, Neo-Cons want them to break unions, And Limo-Liberals want them to clean their homes. Really is only moderate middle class Americans who are losing out.
Yea they have to live in a world where pay is not just based on time served but on merit... They might be real upset to join the rest of the owrking world..
Right.... Its not like 50% of women have had sex with more than one partner and HPV is not easily transmitted during just about any kind of sex.
"The problem, of course, is that these people don't object to vaccines." Wow, drive by stupidity... Many people object to vaccines irregardless of the nature of the disease..
So youre comparing a vaccination to a broken leg? hey I can play bad analogy.. I totally think the state should be able to dictate who can even have kids, afterall why let people who are prone to genetic diseases reproduce it society thats important. Actually given the population problem we should have the government mandate abortions after the second kid (or to be more civil just tie the tubes after a second baby is born). /sarc
A broken leg is an injury, lack of a vacinniation is *not* an injury and if you want to open the door for the state to make medical decisions for individules move somewhere like China where they already do that.
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Any vaccine (or medication, for that matter) can be thought safe for decades, and only later found to have side effects.
Exactly the point, let parents make this decision if, when the kid is 18, she wants to do it without permission its then her call
How many girls and women do you want to get cancer while you wait for your illusory certainty?
Its amazing how you acknowledge that this vaccine can have terrible side effects and then try to make the OP look as if they want people to get cancer, heck the OP did not say this should not be available he shae not mandatory.
This skepticism, if it call be called that, could be raised over the flu shot, typhoid, rubella, or any number of other shots now given. But the skepticism isn't raised, because the only reason this is controversial is that the religious right is muddying the waters, just like they do over condoms, sex-ed, and so on.
What?!?! There are many very large and vocal groups who raise the issue of vaccination safety all the time. I for one only had my daughters get the vaccinations for the diseases that could kill an infant during their first year. Why the hell would I give my 3mo daughter a heb-b vaccine? Your claim that nobody is saying anything about other vaccines is either deceipt or stupidity.
Hi Mao nice to meet you. Dang them people for having Religious faith and their own beleifes they wish to pass on, we should round up their kids into state orphanges so they cant be taught their parents beliefs, theyll be better servants of the state that way.
A way to instill them with fear for there entire lives, and a way for people to manipulate them and abuse them.
Uh huh, right instead lets have the state schools teach them to fear Global Warming their whole lives, or intolerance, so long as is its a state sanctioned and secular point of view its a mercy to teach it..
The moment any religeon appraoches anyone that didn't specifically ask, that religeon should be outlawed
Does this count the freaks who protest animal cruelty outside of KFC?
The idea was you can practice religeon, but not interfere with government, the wall between Church and state is falling.
And what good does having Government in peoples personal lives telling them what they can teach their kids in regards to faith helps the wall between church and state?
Yes beacuse tested drugs *never* end up having long term unknown side effects.
The opposition is coming from the fucking imbeciles who thinks it's good to threaten children, even their own, with cancer to keep them from having sex.
Or from people who just dont want the state dictating their kids medical care!
Yes these are real problems, kind like the problem of having the government make medical decisions for people instead of letting them make their own..
Nobody here is against Merck making the vaccine or people giving to their kids what they are against is the federal government mandating what vaccines you give your kids. HPV is not polio, its not transmitted through the air and like it or not a kids sexual education should be the pervue of the parents. I am *really* against the state run by George Bush (or Obama, or Rudy, or Hillary) making medical decisions for me as a parent. I find it funny that all these 'one less' commercials mention HPV and how great the vaccine is but neglect to infrom people of how you get HPV...
Your take is wrong, this is coming from someone who lived that life and found every justification under the sun for it. It was not until I wised up and stopped liveing that lifestyle until I realized how damagin both to myself and the woman of the hour it really was. In totality the Bible clearly comes out against premarital sex.
It is very clearly addressed as fornication!
I dont prefer any one but I like the NAS. I have no problem with the KJV and when doing a detailed study (rather than just my daily quiet time) I read more than one translation and usually reference the greek and hebrew from which is was drawn.
It is excluded as Fornication which is by definition the act of sex outside of marriage. " "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
I'm sorry how many have you been through? what qualifies you to say that most pre-marriage classes dont include information about Sex? Among the Christians I know and have discussed pre marriage counseling with (five or six couples) all of them dealt as much with sex as anything else. Any biblical based marriage counseling will tell you that its a wonderful gift, and physical and spiritual bond, and an experience more pleasurable than most anything else you can do. What snarks off people who bash chriustians as prudes is the belief that sex by nature forms a spiritual bond (ie you are tied to the person you have sex with) and thus is *only* ok in marriage.
And until such time as parents have taught their kids good judgement might it not be a sound idea to keep poor influences out of their lives?
"'Gaming devices like the Wii and the PSP aren't just for fun games anymore. You're able to surf the net, chat with friends, email, and view porn because of its internet access. Kids know this but parents don't!" Im not saying that parents should ban the Wii or assume their kids are pr0n freaks because they use one but parents should be away that the game console their kids have allow them to browse the internet, chat with lord knows who and yes, view objectionable material (depending on what you consider to be objectionable).
How sad is it when a scientist sees something for the first time and rather than say 'I have no clue whay this is happening, I should study the reason this is happening' says 'This might be because of gloabal working, I should go look for a link'.