You do realize the quote is from a self-admitted linux zealot, take it as such.
I could think of a million technical reasons not to release Linux desktops.
They all boil down to linux sucking as a desktop machine. Very few of their customers want it. How many linux dudes here are gettin' a Dell?
It's just not worth the cost to tweak a distro for their needs, then support it down the road. And how do you support it once people start recompiling their own kernels and userspace apps - not talking about corporate world here, but the average linux user?
The PC makers are driven by profits, not by Microsoft. Make preloading a linux desktop profitable, and watch the landscape change.
MS's tactics haven't stopped them from shipping linux on servers instead of 2003.
Pablum was indeed invented by doctors at the University of Toronto to come up with a proper, nutritionaly sound way to feed premature babies and help curb the infant mortality rate.
And while beads have been around forever, I figure only a Canadian would think to stick them in his ass.
It was the first modern computer to use a microprocessor.
That site credits a 1949 electromechanical deal as the first "computer". Why stop there? Why not go back further to purely mechanical peg-and-wheel adding machines?
Insulin, penicillin, pablum, telephones (ok people like to fight about that), snowmobiles (duh), anal beads.. All canadian inventions.
People also forget about canadian talent, and tend to assume they're american. Mary Pickford, America's Sweetheart, was Canadian. Eric Clapton (though british legally) grew up in Toronto, moving back to Britain when he was 18. Lorne Greene, Alex Trebek, Dan Rather (i might be wrong, but one of those news anchors is, they all look the same to me) All the SCTV and Kids in the Hall alumni, Lorne Michaels and many Sat. Night Live alumni.
Americans go "Dudley Do Right yuk yuk yuk" with no clue that Superman is Canadian (Joe Shuster, grandfather of Shuster from Wayne and Shuster fame - fame isn't the right word)
"A strongman in tights? It'll never fly!" A part of our heritage.
So long as distros like red hat are going to stick it all into a boxed product, and sell the whole thing as "linux", we can complain about those boxed apps as part of linux. Just like folks compain about mediaplayer as a windows problem.
Now, if they want to call it GheymOS (featuring the linux kernel), thats a whole different ballgame.
It's only faster if you have 8 CPUs, your single proc desktop box will be slower.
Which just reaffirms my belief that linux is becoming ever more firmly planted in the server world, and desktop linux is still just a hobby for the most part.
Do you get frustrated when the person in front of you stops in front of a ticket gate to fumble around in their wallet, trying to find their ticket, which they then proceed to put in the slot upside down? This will soon become a thing of the past.
Yeah, now they'll be fumbling for their smartcard, which they'll proceed to put in the slot upside down and backwards.
While this may affect the rights of the hated redcoats, I fail to see how it affects their rights "online".
Everyone keeps reciepts and records for years, and after you apply that data to tracking, I fail to see how it's useful.
Are the smart cards actually personalized? Do they know that Phil McBucktooth went from picadilly circus to the moors of wankershire on Oct 12th, or do they just know where card #5479013-31235234 is?
If not, this is no different than the EZ-Pass rf based toll-paying system we have in maryland.
You dont want VIA hardware for industrial applications. It's not like a plant manager is going to want the QC data acquisition device to fit into an ET dolls ass and make his eyes light up blue.
I wouldnt trust VIAs cheap stuff in an industrial setting, myself. I'd look at stuff from folks like Tyan or Crommel or others who make truly industrial FlexATX hardware.
These are geared for little multimedia HTPC types of applications.
I've never been all that impressed with mini-itx, because it's not much smaller than FlexATX, and has a lot less horsepower. But these suckers are small enough I could build a mini PC to fit into a drive bay.
I'm imagining one of those PSOne LCD's built into the side of my case, with a flexible keyboard attached beneath it, a little mini PC in there, and I could, umm, i dunno, I'll find someone in marketing to figure out what it's used for.
These things, afaik, can run on DC power - so running off batteries shouldn't be out of the question. They'll certainly fit in a laptop sized case. SODIMMS, laptop HDDs, half-height CDroms and stuff can be had.
As I see it, what keeps the DIY laptop scene from existing is the LCD video interface - there's just no real standard way to do it. Won't someone start mass producing laptop shells, complete with LCDs, inverters, and interface board?
I wonder what the Dells of the world would do if people could cobble together their own laptops. I read somewhere that portables are fast becoming the biggest chunk of the box brands profits.
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You do realize the quote is from a self-admitted linux zealot, take it as such.
I could think of a million technical reasons not to release Linux desktops.
They all boil down to linux sucking as a desktop machine. Very few of their customers want it. How many linux dudes here are gettin' a Dell?
It's just not worth the cost to tweak a distro for their needs, then support it down the road. And how do you support it once people start recompiling their own kernels and userspace apps - not talking about corporate world here, but the average linux user?
The PC makers are driven by profits, not by Microsoft. Make preloading a linux desktop profitable, and watch the landscape change.
MS's tactics haven't stopped them from shipping linux on servers instead of 2003.
when is somebody going to prosecute these people for fraud.
When there's actual evidence that fraud has occurred?
Execs excercise stock options all the time.
Now we switch to the government sanctioned french verses, just like I sang it in grade school!
Blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah
Pablum was indeed invented by doctors at the University of Toronto to come up with a proper, nutritionaly sound way to feed premature babies and help curb the infant mortality rate.
And while beads have been around forever, I figure only a Canadian would think to stick them in his ass.
Hockey wasn't invented in Canada, they brought that over from Europe.
But how many know that basketball was invented by french-canadian monks as something to entertain the orphans?
It was the first modern computer to use a microprocessor.
That site credits a 1949 electromechanical deal as the first "computer". Why stop there? Why not go back further to purely mechanical peg-and-wheel adding machines?
Insulin, penicillin, pablum, telephones (ok people like to fight about that), snowmobiles (duh), anal beads.. All canadian inventions.
People also forget about canadian talent, and tend to assume they're american. Mary Pickford, America's Sweetheart, was Canadian. Eric Clapton (though british legally) grew up in Toronto, moving back to Britain when he was 18. Lorne Greene, Alex Trebek, Dan Rather (i might be wrong, but one of those news anchors is, they all look the same to me) All the SCTV and Kids in the Hall alumni, Lorne Michaels and many Sat. Night Live alumni.
Americans go "Dudley Do Right yuk yuk yuk" with no clue that Superman is Canadian (Joe Shuster, grandfather of Shuster from Wayne and Shuster fame - fame isn't the right word)
"A strongman in tights? It'll never fly!" A part of our heritage.
Apparently it means the latest Britney Spears CD costs too much.
Slashdot has expanded my wordiness to unrelented new layers!
Lies, all lies.
Apple invented the personal computer.
Apple invented the GUI.
Apple invented the mouse.
Apple invented the disk drive.
Apple invented the CD burner.
Apple invented the DVD burner.
Apple invented the mp3 player.
Apple invented the LCD monitor.
Apple invented BSD Unix (with OSX)
Apple invented the idea of paying money for music online.
My mac owning friend assures me this is all true, and anyone who tells you different is a dirty liar!
So long as distros like red hat are going to stick it all into a boxed product, and sell the whole thing as "linux", we can complain about those boxed apps as part of linux. Just like folks compain about mediaplayer as a windows problem.
Now, if they want to call it GheymOS (featuring the linux kernel), thats a whole different ballgame.
1) Integrate seemless plug-in support into Mozilla.
Done and done! It's "seems less" useful than any other plug-in implementation I've seen. Or did you mean seamless?
It's only faster if you have 8 CPUs, your single proc desktop box will be slower.
Which just reaffirms my belief that linux is becoming ever more firmly planted in the server world, and desktop linux is still just a hobby for the most part.
Do you get frustrated when the person in front of you stops in front of a ticket gate to fumble around in their wallet, trying to find their ticket, which they then proceed to put in the slot upside down? This will soon become a thing of the past.
Yeah, now they'll be fumbling for their smartcard, which they'll proceed to put in the slot upside down and backwards.
And you'll be able to hunt them down later!
What a world we live in!
It's up to 2 percent faster in certain hand-picked benchmarks!
If all you're after is karma, just reaffirm the notion that linux is super-fantastic, and MSFT is teh ghey. Toss in an SCO reference.
You will never be "redundant or offtopic". Only Insightful and Interesting.
Thats all I can say!
Wowee wow wow wow!
It's slightly faster... TO THE EXTREME!!!
Well I cant RTFA if it aint working now, and noone has been polite enough to karma whore, can I?
Bitch and whine for pre-paid anonymous cards.
No, wear normal clothes so you blend in.
There's crazy people who ride the subways in their jammers all the time. I saw a guy with scooby doo jammers on the other day.
He was really easy to track because he looked like a buffoon.
While this may affect the rights of the hated redcoats, I fail to see how it affects their rights "online".
Everyone keeps reciepts and records for years, and after you apply that data to tracking, I fail to see how it's useful.
Are the smart cards actually personalized? Do they know that Phil McBucktooth went from picadilly circus to the moors of wankershire on Oct 12th, or do they just know where card #5479013-31235234 is?
If not, this is no different than the EZ-Pass rf based toll-paying system we have in maryland.
You dont want VIA hardware for industrial applications. It's not like a plant manager is going to want the QC data acquisition device to fit into an ET dolls ass and make his eyes light up blue.
I wouldnt trust VIAs cheap stuff in an industrial setting, myself. I'd look at stuff from folks like Tyan or Crommel or others who make truly industrial FlexATX hardware.
These are geared for little multimedia HTPC types of applications.
I've never been all that impressed with mini-itx, because it's not much smaller than FlexATX, and has a lot less horsepower. But these suckers are small enough I could build a mini PC to fit into a drive bay.
I'm imagining one of those PSOne LCD's built into the side of my case, with a flexible keyboard attached beneath it, a little mini PC in there, and I could, umm, i dunno, I'll find someone in marketing to figure out what it's used for.
This isn't offtopic you dopes.
These things, afaik, can run on DC power - so running off batteries shouldn't be out of the question. They'll certainly fit in a laptop sized case. SODIMMS, laptop HDDs, half-height CDroms and stuff can be had.
As I see it, what keeps the DIY laptop scene from existing is the LCD video interface - there's just no real standard way to do it. Won't someone start mass producing laptop shells, complete with LCDs, inverters, and interface board?
I wonder what the Dells of the world would do if people could cobble together their own laptops. I read somewhere that portables are fast becoming the biggest chunk of the box brands profits.
I agree.
If size is the problem, ditch the bulky dsub connector for something smaller, and make a simple external dongle.
Florida proved to us that we have a severe shortage of people who know how to count.
You do realize that voter fraud will get you a good long stretch in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, don't you?
The machines are just a tool within the system, they aren't the entire system. The sky isn't actually falling.
I believe the point was, it's the governments job ultimately. Truman said "the buck stops here". I think it was Truman. Anyhow.
All this is doing is helping the fingerpointing game so popular among civil servants. Bravo.
They build the machines to the specs the customer (your government) provides.