You violated the AUP you signed when you hooked up with the ISP, or at least in their opinion you did. What type of connection does your fathers business have? ISDN/Dialup, DSL, fractional T1?
At any rate, Wired probably has a less restrictive leased link that they pay a ton for, and don't have anyone to answer to.
And there probably was a bit of a recourse. If sprint admins where doing their job they would have seen the scanning and fired off an email to abuse@wired.com asking them what the hell was going on.
Portscanning isn't illegal, per se. It's like loitering. It's not illegal unless theres a sign that says 'no loitering'.
Actually, the Saturn didn't die because of lack of 3D might - it was on par with PSX with a skilled enough coder.
There were a few factors that killed it's launch and doomed it:
- Sega CD and 32x left a sour taste in consumer's mouths. Two console 'addons' that were abandoned as soon as they hit the shelves. Sega was already murmuring about what would be dreamcast before Saturn was released. People didn't want to buy a console that would be obsolete in 3 weeks.
- They wanted to beat Sony to market. So they pushed the release date up 6 months or so. This killed them in 2 big ways,
1) major retailers had already placed their orders for the original launch date. They didn't want to buy them early at an inflated price. It only showed up in places like EB (which were much less ubiquitous at the time)
2) game developers werent ready, they were still working towards the original date. The effect was for that first 6 months, there were only 3 titles available. (Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA and Virtua Cop IIRC, could be confused)
It's not like PSX just hit the shelves and made huge waves. People expected more from Atari's Jaguar and even Trip Hawkins new 3DO than they did from this silly-looking Sony thing. More hardcore gamers were holding out for the then vaporware "UltraNintendo".
For the first year or two, PSX did lukewarm business and Saturn matched it head to head. In the end, Sony had more staying power.
PS2 components wear out as well, and in my experience, much faster than those of the PSX, and it's costlier to replace.
The PSOne is still in production and can be had for 40-50 bucks.
Backwards compatibility didnt help the Sega Genesis (which could through a cheap adaptor play Master System games), and was something Nintendo considered for both SNES and N64 and ultimately decided wouldn't be worthwhile - ie; would hurt the system by crippling it with legacy hardware more than it helped it.
Of course, this is probably a good educated guess to the answer of the parents question, they'll probably shoot down the idea again.
Sega learned their lesson, as they scrapped plans to make Saturn backwards compatible with Sega CD/32x and Dreamcast backwards compatible with Saturn. Of course, it was too late for them.
PS2s backwards compatibility hurts it, even if you only consider the fact that it still has only 2 controllers in an age where multiplayer stuff is all the rage.
I don't know of anyone personally who bought a PS2 to play PSX games. I know I have a library of about 100 PSX titles and have yet to even try one in the PS2.
>>Remember the censorship of Mortal Kombat I that Nintendo forced upon Acclaim?
Not to be a big N apologist, but the angry mommies forced that on Nintendo. They're more interested in selling games than censorship, and wrongfully assumed that their market was younger than it was.
And people forget that Mortal Kombat II shipped with all the original arcade content intact.
Your solution is great for you and me, if we were going to get a machine for our own personal use.
But it will never get linux out of the hands of geeks and onto the desktops of the grandmas and other nontechnical types of the world.
They not only dont know how to install an OS, they dont WANT to know. They dont want to know the difference between Debian, Slackware, Redhat, Gentoo, etc.. Heck, most dont even care about the difference between Windows and Linux.
They just want a machine they can plug in, turn on, and e-mail with. Right now that machine is either an Apple, or is running Windows. Linux (lindows in particular) is making inroads, but it's a long ways off until we see linux based eMachines sitting in bestbuy for 200$.
There's also the IT guy who needs to order a few hundred workstations, and really doesnt feel like setting an OS up on each one.
So there needs to be some real consolidation in the OS world. One 'OS' for the masses. Let the geeks and power users choose their own, but we need one base distrib for the Dells, eMachines, Gateways, IBMs to stick on for the home users.
It's the average Joe shopping for a computer that pays the Dells, Gateways, and eMachines bills.
Why would your windows machine need a reset button?
And before you respond with the typical 'it freezes and crashes wah wah', stop and think the cause of the crashes/freezes could very well be because you've been trashing the filesystem when you cycle power on it like that.
this sounds like a 'worst case scenario' type of analysis.
I'm not denying that the chip industry isnt doing Mother Nature any favors, but what exactly do these numbers mean?
I mean, I hear from environmentalist types that every glass of water you drink takes 2 glasses to wash and another 2 to rinse it. But, the water doesnt dissappear or become unusable. It makes its way back into the system.
So of 32 kg of water 'used', how much of that becomes contaminated to the point that it cant be re-used? If its a coolant that evaporates as steam, then I don't see the big deal. If its turned into toxic sludge with a half life measured in eons, then it probalby is.
And WRT to fossil fuels, are they directly used in manufacturing, or are we talking how much needs to be burned to create the electricity needed to manufacture? And why talk about fossil fuels, and not Uranium or solar/hydro/wind power? Because it gets more attention? Wouldnt kW/h would be a better measure? What matters is how much energy is expended.
I understand that we need to better watch and control our impact on the environment, but infactual data and meaningless statements like 'it takes 300 bananas to make a wingnut' don't help.
They don't want to make Kazaa pay only, they want to make Kazaa disappear, and all services like it, so they can replace it with their own 'music download' service.
Except their idea of an 'online service' is really just an online version of a retail store, without the added cost of producing the CDs and liner notes.
And they want to make sure that it's illegal for anyone else to license the songs and offer a competing service, much like they dont want stores selling used CDs, which offer a competing service to the handful of 'retail outlets' they have in their pockets.
The recording industry wont die, but it will evolve into something different. The "we must control everything from the artist's mouth to the consumer's walkman" business model simply cannot work in todays world.
Just because it didn't ship with windows doesn't mean it didnt exist, or wasnt easily installable if one wanted or needed it.
I mean shockwave and adobe acrobat reader dont ship with windows but they wind up on virtually everyones machine. (I know this is apples and oranges, but for the sake of my argument it's good enough that it's all fruit).
If there were Java applications that I wanted, I'd install the JVM. Heck, bundle the JVM with the app's installer or in the case of an applet, stick a little 'click here to install java' link in.
So whats the difference? Has the java community been sitting on their hands doing nothing, waiting until the JVM ships with windows? Is there a shipload of software waiting in the wings just waiting for the updated XP disks to ship?
Or does Suns implementation just stink on ice and we needed to mandate that MSFT come in and 'get it right'? (This is a deliberately absurd rhetorical question, not flamebate)
I really see no signifigance to this at all. How java gets onto the machines is irrelevant, it's how much developer mindshare the language recieves that will decide it's level of success.
I know that this is supposed to be some sort of goofy pro-Linux anti-MS troll, but I dont get it.. It's just incoherent. Are you saying that coders who use Windows are just too stupid to do it?
Anyways, if you'd RTFA, you'd notice that it simply doesnt compile natively under windows, but should be easily enough compiled against cygwin.
It's more than likely just a handful of ioctl() based disk routines that need to be translated to make it a C shared lib, and a tad of restructuring/jumptable management to make it a COM object or library style DLL.
Really not a big deal at all. Being a hotshot Linux hacker yourself, you'd already know that.
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>> I've got Adobe fonts, Bitstream fonts, Microsoft fonts
Possibly not legally, and definately not Free. Some fonts that ship with MS Office are explicitly for use with MS Office, etc. They do have a free (cost) pack of fonts for use in alternate web browsers, but whether or not it's OK to use them for linux I'm not sure (I know Redhat doesn't enable them by default). I'm not positive, but I think there's something about them being free for use only to liscensees of windows. All of which is MS's perogative, since they are their fonts.
Anyways, some Free (libre) fonts, if indeed they are *usable* and not garbage like 'Carebearz' or 'Stoner handwriting', make linux just a little bit more legitimate on the desktop than it did an hour ago. It still has lightyears to go, however.
While the constitution let states choose minimum drinking ages themselves, the feds threatened to withhold all transfer payments for upkeep of the highway systems unless they chose 21.
Video games that feature pornographic cutscenes fit right in there with any other form of pornography, and it should be illegal to sell it to minors. You'd think the industry would be capable of policing itself, or excersising a little moral judgement, but it isnt.
BMX XXX struck me as an obvious attempt to make a profit by selling softcore porn to minors wrapped in a cheesy video game. The sequel would feature bukakke and scat fetish scenes if they thought it would sell.
The violence stuff is a non issue to me, but selling sexually explicit material to children is a crime already, and if the current laws dont recognize the difference between Girls Gone Wild and BMX XXX, then they need amendment.
I dont buy all the 'videogame violence causes real life violence' rhetoric, but now we have irresponsible publishers trying to submarine pornography past parents (a la BMX XXX).
>> You should be with your kids for that kind of stuff anyways.
If you think I can be with my children 24 hours a day 7 days a week until they are 18, you're nuts.
>> Don't sue 7-11 because your kid is getting sex-ed from a magazine instead of you.
It's pornography. It's illegal to sell that to a minor. Even if it's submarined into a video game. I wouldnt sue 7-11, but I would make damn sure the clerk that sold it was arrested for distributing pornography to minors.
>> I'm a well educated graduate from high school some time ago.
I assumed otherwise from your original post.
>> Even today my mom hears updates from me now and then on my progress in the Warcraft3 ladder, and what the game is basically about, even if she has no idea how to play it. She also got a kick out of GTA Vice City and Conkers Bad Fur Day, and feels fine about my little sister playing them
You probably *are* a child, in fact. And by the sounds of it, a pretty lonely one who didnt get enough attention from Ma and Pa. You obviously wish they followed you around 24/7 watching you like a hawk for every single second of every single day until you were 18.
Shut the fuck up.
This bill says if I don't want my child to have a certain game, he cant have it. Some 14 year old zitnecked doofus working the register at Blockbuster cant sell it to him without my consent. It's MY decision, not his, and certainly not yours, so get over yourself.
And did you ever stop to think that getting that new prOmotion has more to do with putting food on the table than it does selfishness, as you'd imply?
Nothing is more aggravating than some self-righteous asshole with no children of his own telling others how to raise theirs.
If my kids want a game, I'll have to buy it for them. They wont be able to walk into EB and buy it without my knowledge. And if it's sold to them, without my knowledge or consent, the retailer will be the one responsible.
If your child goes to 7-11 for a slurpee, and the retailer sells him a copy of Jugs, is the parent still responsible?
And people without children should shut the fuck up and stop preaching about how others should raise theirs. Espescially when said people are still in high school.
Noone under the age of 17 may watch an R rated film unless accompanied by an adult, and I believe they may not purchase one either. It is a crime to admit someone under the age of 18 to an XXX rated film, or to sell, rent, give it to them.
With more and more games pushing the envelope closer to traditional porn, stuff like BMX XXX, GTA 3 or DOA Volleyball, this isn't surprising in the least.
Nielson and others have shown that upwards of 90% of the video game *players* are over 21, so this really shouldnt have much of an effect at all.
The ESRB has done a great job of rating games, and are much more descriptive than their TV and movie counterparts, but irresponsible retailers frankly ignore them.
I saw a kid who looked to be 9 or 10 buy a copy of BMX XXX from blockbuster the last time I was there. This game is just full of nudity (at about a playboy level), sexually explicit language and swearing. Left unchecked, the sequel will probably spiral into hardcore porn. It's a crappy game, and the nudity is a gimmick to sell it.
I generally cringe at new legislation, but the industry is incapable and unwilling to police itself. It's illegal and frankly wrong to sell pronography to little kids, even if it's submarined into a second rate Xtreme-SpOrtZ game.
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You violated the AUP you signed when you hooked up with the ISP, or at least in their opinion you did. What type of connection does your fathers business have? ISDN/Dialup, DSL, fractional T1?
At any rate, Wired probably has a less restrictive leased link that they pay a ton for, and don't have anyone to answer to.
And there probably was a bit of a recourse. If sprint admins where doing their job they would have seen the scanning and fired off an email to abuse@wired.com asking them what the hell was going on.
Portscanning isn't illegal, per se. It's like loitering. It's not illegal unless theres a sign that says 'no loitering'.
Or something.
Actually, the Saturn didn't die because of lack of 3D might - it was on par with PSX with a skilled enough coder.
There were a few factors that killed it's launch and doomed it:
- Sega CD and 32x left a sour taste in consumer's mouths. Two console 'addons' that were abandoned as soon as they hit the shelves. Sega was already murmuring about what would be dreamcast before Saturn was released. People didn't want to buy a console that would be obsolete in 3 weeks.
- They wanted to beat Sony to market. So they pushed the release date up 6 months or so. This killed them in 2 big ways,
1) major retailers had already placed their orders for the original launch date. They didn't want to buy them early at an inflated price. It only showed up in places like EB (which were much less ubiquitous at the time)
2) game developers werent ready, they were still working towards the original date. The effect was for that first 6 months, there were only 3 titles available. (Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA and Virtua Cop IIRC, could be confused)
It's not like PSX just hit the shelves and made huge waves. People expected more from Atari's Jaguar and even Trip Hawkins new 3DO than they did from this silly-looking Sony thing. More hardcore gamers were holding out for the then vaporware "UltraNintendo".
For the first year or two, PSX did lukewarm business and Saturn matched it head to head. In the end, Sony had more staying power.
PS2 components wear out as well, and in my experience, much faster than those of the PSX, and it's costlier to replace.
The PSOne is still in production and can be had for 40-50 bucks.
Backwards compatibility didnt help the Sega Genesis (which could through a cheap adaptor play Master System games), and was something Nintendo considered for both SNES and N64 and ultimately decided wouldn't be worthwhile - ie; would hurt the system by crippling it with legacy hardware more than it helped it.
Of course, this is probably a good educated guess to the answer of the parents question, they'll probably shoot down the idea again.
Sega learned their lesson, as they scrapped plans to make Saturn backwards compatible with Sega CD/32x and Dreamcast backwards compatible with Saturn. Of course, it was too late for them.
PS2s backwards compatibility hurts it, even if you only consider the fact that it still has only 2 controllers in an age where multiplayer stuff is all the rage.
I don't know of anyone personally who bought a PS2 to play PSX games. I know I have a library of about 100 PSX titles and have yet to even try one in the PS2.
>>Remember the censorship of Mortal Kombat I that Nintendo forced upon Acclaim?
Not to be a big N apologist, but the angry mommies forced that on Nintendo. They're more interested in selling games than censorship, and wrongfully assumed that their market was younger than it was.
And people forget that Mortal Kombat II shipped with all the original arcade content intact.
Your solution is great for you and me, if we were going to get a machine for our own personal use.
But it will never get linux out of the hands of geeks and onto the desktops of the grandmas and other nontechnical types of the world.
They not only dont know how to install an OS, they dont WANT to know. They dont want to know the difference between Debian, Slackware, Redhat, Gentoo, etc.. Heck, most dont even care about the difference between Windows and Linux.
They just want a machine they can plug in, turn on, and e-mail with. Right now that machine is either an Apple, or is running Windows. Linux (lindows in particular) is making inroads, but it's a long ways off until we see linux based eMachines sitting in bestbuy for 200$.
There's also the IT guy who needs to order a few hundred workstations, and really doesnt feel like setting an OS up on each one.
So there needs to be some real consolidation in the OS world. One 'OS' for the masses. Let the geeks and power users choose their own, but we need one base distrib for the Dells, eMachines, Gateways, IBMs to stick on for the home users.
It's the average Joe shopping for a computer that pays the Dells, Gateways, and eMachines bills.
ROFL... That's hilarious, Tarzan.
"Big business no care about the regular linux geek, they care only about the money. "
You just figured that out?
We want Linux to be a success - but we don't want businesses associated with it.
FreeBSD the next big success.. Hahaha..
Dude you need to bottle and sell that shit.
Because linux doesn't work as a desktop OS.
Just ask michael
Relax, it's just a joke. And it's funny 'cuz it's true.
Why would your windows machine need a reset button?
And before you respond with the typical 'it freezes and crashes wah wah', stop and think the cause of the crashes/freezes could very well be because you've been trashing the filesystem when you cycle power on it like that.
this sounds like a 'worst case scenario' type of analysis.
I'm not denying that the chip industry isnt doing Mother Nature any favors, but what exactly do these numbers mean?
I mean, I hear from environmentalist types that every glass of water you drink takes 2 glasses to wash and another 2 to rinse it. But, the water doesnt dissappear or become unusable. It makes its way back into the system.
So of 32 kg of water 'used', how much of that becomes contaminated to the point that it cant be re-used? If its a coolant that evaporates as steam, then I don't see the big deal. If its turned into toxic sludge with a half life measured in eons, then it probalby is.
And WRT to fossil fuels, are they directly used in manufacturing, or are we talking how much needs to be burned to create the electricity needed to manufacture? And why talk about fossil fuels, and not Uranium or solar/hydro/wind power? Because it gets more attention? Wouldnt kW/h would be a better measure? What matters is how much energy is expended.
I understand that we need to better watch and control our impact on the environment, but infactual data and meaningless statements like 'it takes 300 bananas to make a wingnut' don't help.
They don't want to make Kazaa pay only, they want to make Kazaa disappear, and all services like it, so they can replace it with their own 'music download' service.
Except their idea of an 'online service' is really just an online version of a retail store, without the added cost of producing the CDs and liner notes.
And they want to make sure that it's illegal for anyone else to license the songs and offer a competing service, much like they dont want stores selling used CDs, which offer a competing service to the handful of 'retail outlets' they have in their pockets.
The recording industry wont die, but it will evolve into something different. The "we must control everything from the artist's mouth to the consumer's walkman" business model simply cannot work in todays world.
BTW, what's this book about?
Just because it didn't ship with windows doesn't mean it didnt exist, or wasnt easily installable if one wanted or needed it.
I mean shockwave and adobe acrobat reader dont ship with windows but they wind up on virtually everyones machine. (I know this is apples and oranges, but for the sake of my argument it's good enough that it's all fruit).
If there were Java applications that I wanted, I'd install the JVM. Heck, bundle the JVM with the app's installer or in the case of an applet, stick a little 'click here to install java' link in.
So whats the difference? Has the java community been sitting on their hands doing nothing, waiting until the JVM ships with windows? Is there a shipload of software waiting in the wings just waiting for the updated XP disks to ship?
Or does Suns implementation just stink on ice and we needed to mandate that MSFT come in and 'get it right'? (This is a deliberately absurd rhetorical question, not flamebate)
I really see no signifigance to this at all. How java gets onto the machines is irrelevant, it's how much developer mindshare the language recieves that will decide it's level of success.
Give the man a cigar!!!
I know that this is supposed to be some sort of goofy pro-Linux anti-MS troll, but I dont get it.. It's just incoherent. Are you saying that coders who use Windows are just too stupid to do it?
Anyways, if you'd RTFA, you'd notice that it simply doesnt compile natively under windows, but should be easily enough compiled against cygwin.
It's more than likely just a handful of ioctl() based disk routines that need to be translated to make it a C shared lib, and a tad of restructuring/jumptable management to make it a COM object or library style DLL.
Really not a big deal at all. Being a hotshot Linux hacker yourself, you'd already know that.
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And I would doubt he played any role whatsoever in the decision.
But its great that now we can all remaster his original films and add our own awkward, out-of-place looking robots, aliens and spaceships.
I'll have Jar Jar and Indiana Jones doing the hoochie-coo on the roof of a car in American Graffiti.
>> I've got Adobe fonts, Bitstream fonts, Microsoft fonts
Possibly not legally, and definately not Free. Some fonts that ship with MS Office are explicitly for use with MS Office, etc. They do have a free (cost) pack of fonts for use in alternate web browsers, but whether or not it's OK to use them for linux I'm not sure (I know Redhat doesn't enable them by default). I'm not positive, but I think there's something about them being free for use only to liscensees of windows. All of which is MS's perogative, since they are their fonts.
Anyways, some Free (libre) fonts, if indeed they are *usable* and not garbage like 'Carebearz' or 'Stoner handwriting', make linux just a little bit more legitimate on the desktop than it did an hour ago. It still has lightyears to go, however.
While the constitution let states choose minimum drinking ages themselves, the feds threatened to withhold all transfer payments for upkeep of the highway systems unless they chose 21.
Video games that feature pornographic cutscenes fit right in there with any other form of pornography, and it should be illegal to sell it to minors. You'd think the industry would be capable of policing itself, or excersising a little moral judgement, but it isnt.
BMX XXX struck me as an obvious attempt to make a profit by selling softcore porn to minors wrapped in a cheesy video game. The sequel would feature bukakke and scat fetish scenes if they thought it would sell.
The violence stuff is a non issue to me, but selling sexually explicit material to children is a crime already, and if the current laws dont recognize the difference between Girls Gone Wild and BMX XXX, then they need amendment.
I dont buy all the 'videogame violence causes real life violence' rhetoric, but now we have irresponsible publishers trying to submarine pornography past parents (a la BMX XXX).
And that changes the issue.
>> You should be with your kids for that kind of stuff anyways.
If you think I can be with my children 24 hours a day 7 days a week until they are 18, you're nuts.
>> Don't sue 7-11 because your kid is getting sex-ed from a magazine instead of you.
It's pornography. It's illegal to sell that to a minor. Even if it's submarined into a video game.
I wouldnt sue 7-11, but I would make damn sure the clerk that sold it was arrested for distributing pornography to minors.
>> I'm a well educated graduate from high school some time ago.
I assumed otherwise from your original post.
>> Even today my mom hears updates from me now and then on my progress in the Warcraft3 ladder, and what the game is basically about, even if she has no idea how to play it. She also got a kick out of GTA Vice City and Conkers Bad Fur Day, and feels fine about my little sister playing them
Oh, I completely understand.
You spend 30,000 to sit and listen to 'Industry guys' talk about what makes a game fun. And you get a little certificate.
I know what goes into game design and development, and that's not what this will give you.
You're much better off with a Comp. Sci degree and some graphic arts courses to back it up.
This has been crafted to elicit high tuitions, not to create the future of the gaming industry.
You don't have children, do you?
You probably *are* a child, in fact. And by the sounds of it, a pretty lonely one who didnt get enough attention from Ma and Pa. You obviously wish they followed you around 24/7 watching you like a hawk for every single second of every single day until you were 18.
Shut the fuck up.
This bill says if I don't want my child to have a certain game, he cant have it. Some 14 year old zitnecked doofus working the register at Blockbuster cant sell it to him without my consent. It's MY decision, not his, and certainly not yours, so get over yourself.
And did you ever stop to think that getting that new prOmotion has more to do with putting food on the table than it does selfishness, as you'd imply?
Nothing is more aggravating than some self-righteous asshole with no children of his own telling others how to raise theirs.
This bill is about parental responsibility.
If my kids want a game, I'll have to buy it for them. They wont be able to walk into EB and buy it without my knowledge. And if it's sold to them, without my knowledge or consent, the retailer will be the one responsible.
If your child goes to 7-11 for a slurpee, and the retailer sells him a copy of Jugs, is the parent still responsible?
And people without children should shut the fuck up and stop preaching about how others should raise theirs. Espescially when said people are still in high school.
Noone under the age of 17 may watch an R rated film unless accompanied by an adult, and I believe they may not purchase one either. It is a crime to admit someone under the age of 18 to an XXX rated film, or to sell, rent, give it to them.
With more and more games pushing the envelope closer to traditional porn, stuff like BMX XXX, GTA 3 or DOA Volleyball, this isn't surprising in the least.
Nielson and others have shown that upwards of 90% of the video game *players* are over 21, so this really shouldnt have much of an effect at all.
The ESRB has done a great job of rating games, and are much more descriptive than their TV and movie counterparts, but irresponsible retailers frankly ignore them.
I saw a kid who looked to be 9 or 10 buy a copy of BMX XXX from blockbuster the last time I was there. This game is just full of nudity (at about a playboy level), sexually explicit language and swearing. Left unchecked, the sequel will probably spiral into hardcore porn. It's a crappy game, and the nudity is a gimmick to sell it.
I generally cringe at new legislation, but the industry is incapable and unwilling to police itself. It's illegal and frankly wrong to sell pronography to little kids, even if it's submarined into a second rate Xtreme-SpOrtZ game.
TCPA has nothing to do with DRM, outside of /. conspiracy theories.
You can implement DRM with or without a 'trustworthy' OS, and you can run non-DRM enabled media software under a TCPA compliant OS.