No, you don't have the trojan, but it's reporting people who are scanning your PC to see if it's there.
Subseven is a very real backdoor app, like BackOrifice. Once it's on your machine someone can connect to it and basically do whatever they want remotely. It's an 8th graders hacking tool.
You really are getting scanned by those 8th graders 140 times a day, hoping the trojan might be there.
Try joining a large chatroom on irc and see how many people auto-scan you.
>> How bad do they fret over the fact that many, many servers running inheirently insecure operating systems are being replaced by an operating system that has no need for them?
They already monitor linux networks, apache webservers, and the like. Windows isn't inherently instable, nor is Linux inherently stable.
They get hired to not so much look for obscure buffer exploits in media player, but an intrusion by someone on an improperly setup ftp account (I see lots of 'pubs' full of warez running linux), a guessed/socially engineered password, or even an inside job.
There's more to security than the 'I Love You' virus.
"It reminds me of something Roblimo wrote about the other day over at NewsForge, where he was standing in the software aisle of CompUSA looking at rows and rows of applications that exist to fix some deficiency with Windows. What will these companies do when Linux takes over?"
Why, the aisle will fill with products to fix the deficiencies in Linux. It already exists in virtual form in sites like freshmeat or linux.org.
When linux becomes a big enough force to become a tempting target, people will start looking for holes, and find them too. Bank on that.
When people talk about linux being 'completely secure and perfect', it's usually part of their OSS political agenda.
"If data is transmitted, she can see that, too -- and not only when it is moved by outsiders. Symantec has caught insiders improperly sending pre-merger details and pre-earnings data and has reported those findings to the employees' bosses."
I'm sure they sign some NDAs and whatnot, but it might be awful tempting for a 30-40k a year 'analyst' to take that ball and run with it.
Your 20+ years of experience aren't worth jack in a field that reinvents itself on a daily basis. Maybe you stay current, maybe you dont.
I'm reminded of a guy I worked with, who had decades of experience, and knew all kinds of stuff about the System/36. He worked the old system and I worked the PCs. One day I was taking apart one of the managers systems to install a CD-R burner, he looks at it and goes "What the hell is that thing? You can WRITE CDS!??? Why do we need to write CDs? We dont sell music here.".
The S/36 is long gone from that office, and so is he. It was pathetic, a guy who once made 6 figures easily bought my beat up cutlass supreme for 300 bucks. He still drives it, too. Oh, and he moved back in with his mom.
Of course I've known the other extreme - a guy I work with now is in his 50s and is the first to pick up on every new tech to come down the pike.
So I guess my point is, that this is a field where experience in years doesn't necessarily mean anything. You just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get kicked up into management where you're expected to know nothing.
Government mandated certification would be bad (and idiotic), but there are certifications. You can get a little rubber stamp from Intel/AMD/Dell/HP/Whoever as an 'authorized dealer and repair guy'.
This is why the geniuses at Best Buy can open an eMachines PC to upgrade the RAM without voiding the warranty, and I can't.
The certification stuff is already there for those who want to embark on the high-paying lucrative career of installing video cards in people's Dells.
Maybe I'm going to sign a linux kernel, and only add my own signature to my trusted list. Now nothing will run on my machine that I haven't signed.
I understand all the knee-jerk 'the sky is falling' reactions - this is slashdot, after all - but can't anyone see the benefit of knowing that next time Eunice the Twit in accounting opens a "hilarious" e-mail, she won't bring every machine in the network to a halt?
But 'family folks' aren't the target of this. Business/military/government workstations are. A large corporation just might replace some or all of it's more crucial systems for the promise that they'll never lose another week or two of productivity because some nitwit in accounting opened an e-mail that read "I love you".
No, you as the system admin build a list of who you 'trust' and who you dont, much like SSL. There's no central signing authority. You can compile your own code and sign it. You can remove microsoft from the list of trusted signers. You can shut the whole damn thing off as a BIOS option. You can trust 'anyone' or nobody.
>> I bought something from Philips once, and I never will again. There are better, cheaper, properly supported alternatives for just about anything Philips makes
But you have to admit, it's getting better; it's getting better all the time.
>> I hit menu, down to 'search by song title', right, typed in 'mac' hit right, and chose 'Macerena' (a long forgotton MP3 in my collection) and hit play... it's too smooth.
>> MP3 CDs / MP3-Pro CDs / CD-Rs / CD-RWs are all supported, however it doesn't seem to like any of the CD-Rs that I burn. They seem to work fine in other players, but when I stick any of them into my streamium, it gets confused and won't eject the CD unless I unplug the power cord and plug it back in (the power button doesn't work in this situation). CD-RWs surprisingly work just fine.
Sounds very much like the el-cheapo drives in the XBox. They handle CD-RW and choke on CD-R. And Phillips makes them (along with Thomson and Samsung).
While that's fine for an XBox, it seems unacceptable that a piece of audio gear would have an cheapo CD drive.
>>He's probably not advertising it as a "brand new product concept" either.
You haven't seen the commercial, have you? You'd think it was developed by NASA using technology from outer-space.
It's just how the game of marketing is played. You don't go to CES and say "Yeah, we go this thingy. It's been done before and it's pretty lame to tell the truth"
As has been said, it's good for everyone but the developer.
It's good for aministrators, it's good for people who sell 'how to' books, it's good for consultants and vendors, it's good for big corps like IBM to cut development costs.
But the developers work for free. Even linus has to take a job at Transmeta to make ends meet.
>> I'll say it again. Rendezvous is gonna change the world.
It won't change nothing if it's proprietary and doesn't play nice with other OS's (Windows included).
I think people are getting fairly fed up with artificial barriers between mac/windows/linux on the same network. I know I am.
Why isn't there an open source package that just makes it easy to share folders/files/printers across all platforms? Like Samba, but without being a cloned MS tech?
You want to connect it to your Mac?!
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No wonder your TiVo thinks you're gay./me waves bye-bye to some karma.
Well the 'whole new product concept' refers to the Spot technology as a whole, the watch is just the flagship.
And if you read the interview, it's clear they expect the market for this thing to be as a novelty gift to geeks, I doubt they expect anyone to buy it out of necessity.
I have a plastic bass that flaps it's tail and sings a corny parody of "take me to the river". The technology there doesn't impress me either, and the sound quality is nowhere near taht my MP3 discman. So therefore the person who invented and marketed it must be some kind of idiot, right? Wrong, I bet he's rolling in cash.
I'm just saying that every product that hits the shelves doesn't have to be mind-blowingly high tech and innovative.
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Hmm. Not quite what I'm after.
Maybe I could do a case mod involving one of the disneyland teacups?
And "Chocolate Teapot" is an anagram of "that a lot o pee to cc"
No, you don't have the trojan, but it's reporting people who are scanning your PC to see if it's there.
Subseven is a very real backdoor app, like BackOrifice. Once it's on your machine someone can connect to it and basically do whatever they want remotely. It's an 8th graders hacking tool.
You really are getting scanned by those 8th graders 140 times a day, hoping the trojan might be there.
Try joining a large chatroom on irc and see how many people auto-scan you.
>> How bad do they fret over the fact that many, many servers running inheirently insecure operating systems are being replaced by an operating system that has no need for them?
They already monitor linux networks, apache webservers, and the like. Windows isn't inherently instable, nor is Linux inherently stable.
They get hired to not so much look for obscure buffer exploits in media player, but an intrusion by someone on an improperly setup ftp account (I see lots of 'pubs' full of warez running linux), a guessed/socially engineered password, or even an inside job.
There's more to security than the 'I Love You' virus.
"It reminds me of something Roblimo wrote about the other day over at NewsForge, where he was standing in the software aisle of CompUSA looking at rows and rows of applications that exist to fix some deficiency with Windows. What will these companies do when Linux takes over?"
Why, the aisle will fill with products to fix the deficiencies in Linux. It already exists in virtual form in sites like freshmeat or linux.org.
When linux becomes a big enough force to become a tempting target, people will start looking for holes, and find them too. Bank on that.
When people talk about linux being 'completely secure and perfect', it's usually part of their OSS political agenda.
"If data is transmitted, she can see that, too -- and not only when it is moved by outsiders. Symantec has caught insiders improperly sending pre-merger details and pre-earnings data and has reported those findings to the employees' bosses."
I'm sure they sign some NDAs and whatnot, but it might be awful tempting for a 30-40k a year 'analyst' to take that ball and run with it.
They monitor networks of linux and mac machines too. They're basically a service that sits and reads firewall logs for you.
Your 20+ years of experience aren't worth jack in a field that reinvents itself on a daily basis. Maybe you stay current, maybe you dont.
I'm reminded of a guy I worked with, who had decades of experience, and knew all kinds of stuff about the System/36. He worked the old system and I worked the PCs. One day I was taking apart one of the managers systems to install a CD-R burner, he looks at it and goes "What the hell is that thing? You can WRITE CDS!??? Why do we need to write CDs? We dont sell music here.".
The S/36 is long gone from that office, and so is he. It was pathetic, a guy who once made 6 figures easily bought my beat up cutlass supreme for 300 bucks. He still drives it, too. Oh, and he moved back in with his mom.
Of course I've known the other extreme - a guy I work with now is in his 50s and is the first to pick up on every new tech to come down the pike.
So I guess my point is, that this is a field where experience in years doesn't necessarily mean anything. You just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get kicked up into management where you're expected to know nothing.
Government mandated certification would be bad (and idiotic), but there are certifications. You can get a little rubber stamp from Intel/AMD/Dell/HP/Whoever as an 'authorized dealer and repair guy'.
This is why the geniuses at Best Buy can open an eMachines PC to upgrade the RAM without voiding the warranty, and I can't.
The certification stuff is already there for those who want to embark on the high-paying lucrative career of installing video cards in people's Dells.
Who says the trusted OS has to come from MSFT?
Maybe I'm going to sign a linux kernel, and only add my own signature to my trusted list. Now nothing will run on my machine that I haven't signed.
I understand all the knee-jerk 'the sky is falling' reactions - this is slashdot, after all - but can't anyone see the benefit of knowing that next time Eunice the Twit in accounting opens a "hilarious" e-mail, she won't bring every machine in the network to a halt?
But 'family folks' aren't the target of this. Business/military/government workstations are. A large corporation just might replace some or all of it's more crucial systems for the promise that they'll never lose another week or two of productivity because some nitwit in accounting opened an e-mail that read "I love you".
No, you as the system admin build a list of who you 'trust' and who you dont, much like SSL. There's no central signing authority. You can compile your own code and sign it. You can remove microsoft from the list of trusted signers. You can shut the whole damn thing off as a BIOS option. You can trust 'anyone' or nobody.
Jumpers?
The whole thing will be a BIOS option, just like the P3 serial number was.
This thing will probably stay in the corporate/military domain forever. I see a ton of added complexity to the OS that Joe User wouldn't deal with.
There's a potential for abuse in pretty much any new technology, but I can also see when and where a 'trusted OS' will be a huge step forward.
'Untrusted' hardware will exist so long as there's a market for it. I see no reason to get too worked up over it.
If the commercial ran only 4 seconds longer:
"It couldn't get much worse"
>> I bought something from Philips once, and I never will again. There are better, cheaper, properly supported alternatives for just about anything Philips makes
But you have to admit, it's getting better; it's getting better all the time.
>> I hit menu, down to 'search by song title', right, typed in 'mac' hit right, and chose 'Macerena' (a long forgotton MP3 in my collection) and hit play... it's too smooth.
The Maca-frikkin-rena. G-Zuz.
Kill yourself for humanity's sake.
>> MP3 CDs / MP3-Pro CDs / CD-Rs / CD-RWs are all supported, however it doesn't seem to like any of the CD-Rs that I burn. They seem to work fine in other players, but when I stick any of them into my streamium, it gets confused and won't eject the CD unless I unplug the power cord and plug it back in (the power button doesn't work in this situation). CD-RWs surprisingly work just fine.
Sounds very much like the el-cheapo drives in the XBox. They handle CD-RW and choke on CD-R. And Phillips makes them (along with Thomson and Samsung).
While that's fine for an XBox, it seems unacceptable that a piece of audio gear would have an cheapo CD drive.
>>He's probably not advertising it as a "brand new product concept" either.
You haven't seen the commercial, have you? You'd think it was developed by NASA using technology from outer-space.
It's just how the game of marketing is played. You don't go to CES and say "Yeah, we go this thingy. It's been done before and it's pretty lame to tell the truth"
True, but it'd still be the exception and not the rule.
WTF is with /. today? "Plain Old Text" formats as HTML, the Preview button posts? You are TeH SuCK
Yeah, I never had any printing issues with linux.
I'm being sarcastic, btw.
Yeah, I've never had any printing difficulties under linux. /SARCASM
As has been said, it's good for everyone but the developer.
It's good for aministrators, it's good for people who sell 'how to' books, it's good for consultants and vendors, it's good for big corps like IBM to cut development costs.
But the developers work for free. Even linus has to take a job at Transmeta to make ends meet.
>> I'll say it again. Rendezvous is gonna change the world.
It won't change nothing if it's proprietary and doesn't play nice with other OS's (Windows included).
I think people are getting fairly fed up with artificial barriers between mac/windows/linux on the same network. I know I am.
Why isn't there an open source package that just makes it easy to share folders/files/printers across all platforms? Like Samba, but without being a cloned MS tech?
No wonder your TiVo thinks you're gay. /me waves bye-bye to some karma.
Well the 'whole new product concept' refers to the Spot technology as a whole, the watch is just the flagship.
And if you read the interview, it's clear they expect the market for this thing to be as a novelty gift to geeks, I doubt they expect anyone to buy it out of necessity.
I have a plastic bass that flaps it's tail and sings a corny parody of "take me to the river". The technology there doesn't impress me either, and the sound quality is nowhere near taht my MP3 discman. So therefore the person who invented and marketed it must be some kind of idiot, right? Wrong, I bet he's rolling in cash.
I'm just saying that every product that hits the shelves doesn't have to be mind-blowingly high tech and innovative.