Really? The Commodore 64/128 blew the doors off of the Mac Quadra 900 and PowerBook 170? I never knew.
The Amiga did. And then some.
An oft-quoted number from Jack which is, as I'm sure you're well aware, highly suspect, as it would suggest a C64 in every fourth household in America. Jack's not the most trustworthy person to cite.
I'm not citing Jack, I'm citing Guinness, who don't generally just "take the guys word for it".
You do know that Commodore was sold worldwide, while Apple was mainly US based for most of the 80s, don't you?
Then again, one in every fourth home sounds about right for where I grew up.
The C64 probably sold around 1-2 million units.
Yeah, Apple fanboys love to make up stuff like that.
Have you not heard the story behind the Commodore 64? Jack Tremeil's venerable "computer for the masses, not the classes."
The thing was developed in TWO WEEKS. The OS took another TWO WEEKS.
In 1981.
And blew the doors off of anything Apple was selling. And kept blowing the doors off of Apple until 1992.
You all were playing Sticky Bear and Oregon Trail while I was playing, well, everything from Donkey Kong to Project Firestart.
And, oh yeah, it's still in Guinness for selling better than any other single PC ever. 30 million units were sold.
Apple doesnt deserve nearly the amount of admiration they get. They've always been a me-too company with hipster doofus appeal, all the way from the first kit computers to the iPod.
In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.
Heh, I've been modded troll for saying exactly that.
In Ms. Dyers FUD piece, she even says that during the last eruption in 1949, the volcano slid 13 feet, and it's been slowly sliding ever since.
It seems much more likely that it will slowly slide into the sea than crash down all at once, and we have the technology to make sure it does exactly that.
And despite her claims, it is being monitored by volcanologists and geologists from around the world. She and her colleagues are pissed they haven't gotten a billion-dollar cheque from the US to investigate it for them.
Sure, it could slowly erode and crumble into the Ocean over a couple centuries. We could easily make sure it does just that by just slowly blasting away at it 'til it's gone.
It wouldn't need to be completely evacuated. Most of the populated areas on the eastern seaboard is relatively "high", I'm on the coast but a good couple hundred feet above sea level at high tide.
We also dont live in villages of huts made out of sticks and grass that are easily swept away.
Unlike the folks in Singapore, I do not live in a grass hut. Although I'm right on the coast (Annapolis, MD), I'm about 200ft or so above sea level.
While I could experience a lot of damage and/or flooding, my house, my family and myself aren't in danger of getting sucked into the Chesapeake any time soon.
It would be terrible, but the loss of life probably wouldn't compare to last weeks event.
Nowhere on Earth is immune. It'll either be tornado, earthquake, tsunami, hurricane, drought, pestilence, disease... Of those, tsunami is the least likely.
It could not happen at all. The Canary Island volcano could just slowly slip into the sea, piece by piece, over centuries or millenia, and not come crashing down all at once.
IIRC, the TTL of an entry in iptables is a time_t value which is floating point, so an iptables based router would be doing a lot of trivial floating point work to decide which connections to keep.
I dunno, I got that from the coyotelinux (and other LRP based distros) minimum requirements, where it says you need an FPU (486DX/25 minimum requirement). I suppose that's just how they compiled their kernel.
Someone recompile and try it out on an SX and let me know.
The PPro didn't, but there was a Socket 7 CPU that did have MMX:
January 1997 saw the first major processor release from Intel since the Pentium Pro in 1995. The processor in question was the Intel Pentium MMX (or P55C to the technicaly minded). This was heralded by a loud advertising campaign which introduced us to the now imfamous dancing "Bunny People".
I'm not worried about scientists, I'm worried about the average boob who believes anything he sees on TV, because a "certified scientician" says so.
Like that Clonex or whoever, the UFO cult who claimed they cloned a human being. Despite the fact they couldn't even produce a photograph of the cloned baby, the media (thanks to a slow news week) plastered this "breakthrough" everywhere.
The average dope still thinks it's true.
People think that abortions cause breast cancer, because some born-again christian "scientist" said so (with nothing to back it up). People hear "science" and think it's true, they don't do the research to find out that this guy is alone in his belief.
Hell, every other day the media feeds us a story about "wine is good for you! it prevents cancer", and then the next day "wine is bad for you! it causes cancer!"
The problem is more with the media than the scientific community, I just worry about a giant collection of catchy scientific headlines for slow news days.
Another forum I found has this to say, which is interesting (take it with a grain of salt, I don't vouch for what "RatBoy" says)
Intel created an inferior version of the CPU in the SX, but remember they did the same thing with the 386 SX and DX. There was a nasty rumour that the 486 SX was created only because a batch of 486 chips had faulty FPUs and this was a way for Intel to sell damaged goods and still make some money on them. This rumour was helped out when Intel introduced the 487 math co-processor for the 486 SX. It turned out the 487 was really a 486 DX with one extra pin whose job it was to completely shutdown the 486 SX when you plugged the 487 into your motherboard next to the 486 SX!
A 487 math co-processor will turn it into (almost) an equivelant pentium.
Actually a 486+487 still has enough juice for a homebrewed linux firewall/router, and you can get boards with chips for a buck in the throwaway bin at my local computer shop.
Artificial benchmarks tend to exaggerate minor differences in speed that aren't noticable or relevant in human time.
The best analysis of whether you should upgrade is a subjective one. Sit down at the computer. Does it do what you want or not?
Benchmarks tell me my Radeon 9800 is horribly out of date and imply its too weak to play any modern games. But I know from experience, that's bullshit.
If you were paying attention, you'd have noted that not only is MSFT developing it's on AV tool but they also plan their own spyware scanner/remover.
Windows 3.0 had MSAV, are any/.ers old enough to remember that? They abandoned it, deciding it was too much work to maintain something that, at the time, wasn't viewed as a necessary compnent. And it wasn't needed, in a simpler, kinder, pre-internet world.
It's not just that people enjoy printed material, there's a trust factor.
I'd trust a trade magazine or reputable scientific journal before I'd trust something I saw on the 'web. For the same reason I'd trust Encyclopedia Britannica over Wikipedia.
Your DENON dvd player, no matter how much you paid for it, will never give you more than 720x480.
High-Def WMV9 can give you 1280x720 progressive or 1280x1080 interlaced.
My post isn't pro-microsoft at all, it's anti-moron.
Try and convice someone who just spent 75 grand on his home theatre that he should drive it with RCA video out cables or use it to watch old low resolution DVDs.
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Really? The Commodore 64/128 blew the doors off of the Mac Quadra 900 and PowerBook 170? I never knew.
The Amiga did. And then some.
An oft-quoted number from Jack which is, as I'm sure you're well aware, highly suspect, as it would suggest a C64 in every fourth household in America. Jack's not the most trustworthy person to cite.
I'm not citing Jack, I'm citing Guinness, who don't generally just "take the guys word for it".
You do know that Commodore was sold worldwide, while Apple was mainly US based for most of the 80s, don't you?
Then again, one in every fourth home sounds about right for where I grew up.
The C64 probably sold around 1-2 million units.
Yeah, Apple fanboys love to make up stuff like that.
It was portable and ran on batteries.
I'm just a little fed up of slashdot constantly acting as though Apple invented the computer single-handedly.
They spent the 80s playing catch-up to Commodore, and the 90s until present playing catch-up to Microsoft.
They've never invented anything. They just put it in a shiny case that matches your drapes.
machine-room.org lists both cassette systems as working at 300bps.
A stock 1541 got 4000bps, with a third party addon (Action Replay, Super Snapshot), it would hit 10kbps.
In short, you're full of it.
You wanna talk about firsts? Let's talk about firsts!
* 1st single board microcomputer - MOS KIM-1 (Commodore bought MOS tech within 6 months of KIM being released) and not the Apple Kit!
* Best selling computer in History - The Commodore 64 sold 30 million records and is in the Guinness Book of Records.
* 1st 1 million plus unit selling computer (VIC-20)
* 1st computer company to make $1 Billion dollars in Sales
* 1st multimedia computer (Amiga)
* 1st computer to have coprocessors (SuperPET)
* 1st true-multitasking system was Commodore Amiga not Apple!
* 1st mulitasking OS (Amiga)
* 1st portable (notebook) color computer - SX64
* 1st company to develope the DMA bus
* 1st portable hand-held calculator
* 1st LCD Display Golden Commodore 64
* 1st company to define the word "multimedia"
* 1st Digital Sine-Cosine generator
* 1st and only computer (Amiga) that can display multiple screens at different resolutions on a single monitor.
* 1st Computer used by average people (non-computer people) (Commodore 64)
* 1st Fluorecent Light Dimming Switch
* 1st Fluidtight doors opening/closing device
* 1st CD-ROM Video Game Machine
* 1st I/O to storage adressing and architechture scheme
* 1st CD-ROM Error Control scheme (cirs)
* 1st Joystick controller Commodore / MOS KIM1
* 1st Sitdown style videogame controller
* 1st mulitple linked video game controllers
* 1st Raster Monitor for video graphic displays
* 1st and only computer graphic subsystem that allows multiple bitplanes and bitdepths available on the screen at the same time
* 1st Sound Interface Chip - SID6581
* 1st company to develope the video/digital to/from analog convertor
* 1st company to develop "plug and play"
* 1st Object Oriented OS (Amiga)
* 1st hardware blitter objects (Amiga)
* 1st computer to have "genlock graphics" and overscan
What's Apple got? First PC to match your drapes? First to con morons into spending 500+ on a walkman?
And yet Commodore ran circles around them until the early 90s, despite the miracle of the GUI.
Have you not heard the story behind the Commodore 64? Jack Tremeil's venerable "computer for the masses, not the classes."
The thing was developed in TWO WEEKS. The OS took another TWO WEEKS.
In 1981.
And blew the doors off of anything Apple was selling. And kept blowing the doors off of Apple until 1992.
You all were playing Sticky Bear and Oregon Trail while I was playing, well, everything from Donkey Kong to Project Firestart.
And, oh yeah, it's still in Guinness for selling better than any other single PC ever. 30 million units were sold.
Apple doesnt deserve nearly the amount of admiration they get. They've always been a me-too company with hipster doofus appeal, all the way from the first kit computers to the iPod.
Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.
In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.
Heh, I've been modded troll for saying exactly that.
In Ms. Dyers FUD piece, she even says that during the last eruption in 1949, the volcano slid 13 feet, and it's been slowly sliding ever since.
It seems much more likely that it will slowly slide into the sea than crash down all at once, and we have the technology to make sure it does exactly that.
And despite her claims, it is being monitored by volcanologists and geologists from around the world. She and her colleagues are pissed they haven't gotten a billion-dollar cheque from the US to investigate it for them.
40km isn't that far to go.
An Olympic sprinter like Donovan Bailey can run >40km an hour. Even a fat geek like you could probably make it in two or three.
A lot of the seaboard is relatively high up, and hurricanes pose a much larger threat to these areas.
Sure, it could slowly erode and crumble into the Ocean over a couple centuries. We could easily make sure it does just that by just slowly blasting away at it 'til it's gone.
But that's not going to sell papers.
It wouldn't need to be completely evacuated. Most of the populated areas on the eastern seaboard is relatively "high", I'm on the coast but a good couple hundred feet above sea level at high tide.
We also dont live in villages of huts made out of sticks and grass that are easily swept away.
Unlike the folks in Singapore, I do not live in a grass hut. Although I'm right on the coast (Annapolis, MD), I'm about 200ft or so above sea level.
While I could experience a lot of damage and/or flooding, my house, my family and myself aren't in danger of getting sucked into the Chesapeake any time soon.
It would be terrible, but the loss of life probably wouldn't compare to last weeks event.
Nowhere on Earth is immune. It'll either be tornado, earthquake, tsunami, hurricane, drought, pestilence, disease... Of those, tsunami is the least likely.
It could not happen at all. The Canary Island volcano could just slowly slip into the sea, piece by piece, over centuries or millenia, and not come crashing down all at once.
IIRC, the TTL of an entry in iptables is a time_t value which is floating point, so an iptables based router would be doing a lot of trivial floating point work to decide which connections to keep.
I dunno, I got that from the coyotelinux (and other LRP based distros) minimum requirements, where it says you need an FPU (486DX/25 minimum requirement). I suppose that's just how they compiled their kernel.
Someone recompile and try it out on an SX and let me know.
The PPro didn't, but there was a Socket 7 CPU that did have MMX:
January 1997 saw the first major processor release from Intel since the Pentium Pro in 1995. The processor in question was the Intel Pentium MMX (or P55C to the technicaly minded). This was heralded by a loud advertising campaign which introduced us to the now imfamous dancing "Bunny People".
I'm not worried about scientists, I'm worried about the average boob who believes anything he sees on TV, because a "certified scientician" says so.
Like that Clonex or whoever, the UFO cult who claimed they cloned a human being. Despite the fact they couldn't even produce a photograph of the cloned baby, the media (thanks to a slow news week) plastered this "breakthrough" everywhere.
The average dope still thinks it's true.
People think that abortions cause breast cancer, because some born-again christian "scientist" said so (with nothing to back it up). People hear "science" and think it's true, they don't do the research to find out that this guy is alone in his belief.
Hell, every other day the media feeds us a story about "wine is good for you! it prevents cancer", and then the next day "wine is bad for you! it causes cancer!"
The problem is more with the media than the scientific community, I just worry about a giant collection of catchy scientific headlines for slow news days.
This site says different, it lists:
80487 Intel 487 SX CPGA SZ494, USA
Another forum I found has this to say, which is interesting (take it with a grain of salt, I don't vouch for what "RatBoy" says)
Intel created an inferior version of the CPU in the SX, but remember they did the same thing with the 386 SX and DX. There was a nasty rumour that the 486 SX was created only because a batch of 486 chips had faulty FPUs and this was a way for Intel to sell damaged goods and still make some money on them. This rumour was helped out when Intel introduced the 487 math co-processor for the 486 SX. It turned out the 487 was really a 486 DX with one extra pin whose job it was to completely shutdown the 486 SX when you plugged the 487 into your motherboard next to the 486 SX!
Either way, there was (is) a 487.
It all depends what's in your personal files.
For a lot of people, erasing their personal files is the worst thing an exploit could do.
A 487 math co-processor will turn it into (almost) an equivelant pentium.
Actually a 486+487 still has enough juice for a homebrewed linux firewall/router, and you can get boards with chips for a buck in the throwaway bin at my local computer shop.
Artificial benchmarks tend to exaggerate minor differences in speed that aren't noticable or relevant in human time.
The best analysis of whether you should upgrade is a subjective one. Sit down at the computer. Does it do what you want or not?
Benchmarks tell me my Radeon 9800 is horribly out of date and imply its too weak to play any modern games. But I know from experience, that's bullshit.
If you were paying attention, you'd have noted that not only is MSFT developing it's on AV tool but they also plan their own spyware scanner/remover.
/.ers old enough to remember that? They abandoned it, deciding it was too much work to maintain something that, at the time, wasn't viewed as a necessary compnent. And it wasn't needed, in a simpler, kinder, pre-internet world.
Windows 3.0 had MSAV, are any
Apache is not Linux
IIS is not Windows
What about the recent rash of tens of thousands of PHP based forums going down? Oh, that's PHPBB's fault, not Apaches.
But when a poorly written web-app running on IIS get's hacked, it's somehow Windows fault?
Most listed, especially in the top 10, are just trivial variations of a previous virus/worm.
So it's kind of like MAME supporting umpteen billion different rom sets, when most of them are clones or revisions of an original game.
You could probably release 100,000 variants of NetSky if you wanted to, just by embedding random payloads.
It's not just that people enjoy printed material, there's a trust factor.
I'd trust a trade magazine or reputable scientific journal before I'd trust something I saw on the 'web. For the same reason I'd trust Encyclopedia Britannica over Wikipedia.
Your DENON dvd player, no matter how much you paid for it, will never give you more than 720x480.
High-Def WMV9 can give you 1280x720 progressive or 1280x1080 interlaced.
My post isn't pro-microsoft at all, it's anti-moron.
Try and convice someone who just spent 75 grand on his home theatre that he should drive it with RCA video out cables or use it to watch old low resolution DVDs.