Please think of the children... exactly what the hell are you talking about? Respect them for not serving their customers in the US? Decisions for the Japanese market are mutually exclusive to decisions in the US market. Sharp is either being stupid or bribed by M$ to stay out of the market. Either way, it's anti-consumer.
There's no disagreement on fair use here. If you own a song, you can do whatever you want with it. That's the more important issue at stake.
When music for sale is simply taken, that's stealing.
I'm more concerned about fair use. When you decide it's ok to steal, the record company positions become harder and the government doesn't listen. It's the people taking music without paying for it that are going to destroy fair use.
If you pay for music, you give the more money to work against their customers. If you steal the music, you undermine the legitimate fair use arguments.
Of course fair use is a civil right. You bought the song, you can transfer it to whatever you want. We don't disagree on this point. But you _bought_ the music. Our civil disobedience friend has no intention of doing that. If I'm selling something and somebody takes it for free then that's stealing.
I think it's very important for the fair use advocates to distance themselves from idiots who justify their actions as some pseudo-political philosophy. If we allow their position into the message, fair use will eventually be lost forever.
Corporations won't budge and government won't listen unless the "civil disobedience" crowd knocks it off with the thefts and bs vitriol.
Corporations want to make money and government would rather not have to do anything about anything. Fair use and p2p technology is too important to allow these clowns in the discussion.
Civil disobedience? You spit on everyone that has risked life and limb for actual social problems. The music industry's tactics don't qualify or even logically lead to taking their music as civil disobedience.
Stealing food because the government only gives food to certain groups is a valid trigger for civil disobedience. Stealing music is stupid.
If you want the music industry's garbage, give them their asking price. If you suspect illegal cartel behavior, file a lawsuit. Stealing is not an option.
Chancellor Gorkon, you have a very... theoretical... view of what happened after these hurricanes. In theory, yes, mobile towers are going to be driven in by trucks and corporate America will save the day.
Trees and poles have a very definitive and stubborn way of shutting down civilization when they act in unison. As for your roof comment, I'm tempted to tell you to fsck off because everyone in my neighborhood had severe roof damage. _Still_ has severe roof damage. The subsequent rains utterly destroyed some houses because of the existing roof damage.Further north of here is still in the stone age. Further west of here is back in the Jurassic era.
When the eye of a hurricane blows through your place, give me a call immediately after the winds die down and tell me how safe and wonderful your life is. After all, when corporations are there to protect you, there's nothing to worry about.
I'm not putting any more energy into this post. You deserve -1 Flamebait.
You obviously weren't in the path of any hurricanes this summer. I have a gsm phone and it, along with everybody else, was effectively dead within an hour of constant 120 mph winds. It remained useless for days afterwards. The cell phone network can't deal with disasters.
Yes, you are correct that I am using Linux but I also paid the Microsoft tax for xp pro so that's $1500 altogether. Microsoft barely survived the last upgrade cycle because Linux doesn't have suitable voice dictation(crossover doesn't run DragonDictate) to go primetime yet and there's the annoying wireless network setup hassle, lack of (my) printer driver, etc. Only a few issues remain before Linux gets the whole drive.
Back to the Mac. It's a nice machine. I just think it's too expensive and doesn't age well. If OS X went to the x86, I wouldn't switch. Not because of animosity against Apple, but because I'm against the concept of a commercial OS--or at least against the Microsoft vision of it.
Operating systems should be public utilities along with word processing, spreadsheets and email, etc should never be commercial. Think of the roads. We all pay for them through "neighborhood effects"--a capitalist concept. It's for the greater good that they are publicly accessible & maintained and improved. Road technology and software have progressed at the same rate which is to say almost not at all.
Why do we keep falling for the same crap over and over? How much better would Word 2003 be over Word 6(over 10 years ago) if Microsoft didn't break it to sell new versions. The real innovation was multitasking. What would be left for Microsoft if they didn't have a wonderful position as the OS proprietor?
I see Apple as being equally evil. Atleast with Apple, they don't pretend to allow competitors in their core areas. The other good thing about Apple is that if anyone can kill the concept of the Operating System, they can. I just don't think they will. They'll continue to sell hardware at 300% markup and focus on the elitist market.
You haven't shopped for a computer lately, have you?
AMD 64 2800 512MB 256 MB ATI 9600 120 GB SATA HD Sony DVD burner Sony DVD player USb2 (8) Firewire (2) Bunch of various cf slots Venus 12 fan 350 watt 30 amp power supply Gigabit LAN 24 channel audio
Geez, what else?... completely tricked out in a Lian-Li PC 61 case _with_ no-valid-purpose biohazard case window and case lighting for $850.
Add my 16msec 17in flat panel and it's $1300. I assume your $600 price isn't with the monitor but I thought I'd factor it in anyway.
It runs like a dream. Orders of magnitude superior to the G5.
Now, you won't get this from IBM, Dell or any other retailer because they have to factor warranty and customer service. Like everything else in life, if you know what you're doing, you won't pay out the ass.
So is your figure retail or diy? Most Mac users can't comprehend diy and pay a premium for their ignorance.
It's funny except that your comment has an historical precedent...
During the French Revolution, the Committee of Public Safety beheaded people that "did not want to be free." Not surprisingly, this interim government of the Jacobin were the first "terrorists."
Terrorism started as a tool of government. Now, everybody can be a terrorist. Yay for the democratization of terror.
I have no doubt that these Indymedia assholes would try a Committee of Public Safety given half a chance.
I use Thunderbird. I like it. I've had resistance on switching people from Outbreak. They know it isn't safe but they won't leave the PIM functions.
I haven't used it in a couple years now. I separated myself from Outbreak PIM dependency by using my cellular phone instead. That argument convinces some... mostly the people that just want a task list and a basic calendar.
Thunderbird gets shot down for something email clients aren't supposed to do. Microsoft has made a powerful association in many minds that email program == personal information manager. Thunderbird does its job perfectly and it's superior to Outbreak. It's just a tough sale.
Firefox, in contrast, is like shooting fish in a barrel. Do you want to stop corporations from automatically installing Spyware? Do you want to stop popup windows? Nobody says no to those questions. I think everybody knows that Internet Explorer has major problems. They just need to hear about an alternative from someone they trust.
Email, specifically personal information management, can be mission critical for people which is why it annoys the fsck to see the Calendar Project in the exact same spot it's been in for years. They might have renamed it Sunbird but it's the same useless program and interferes with Thunderbird adoption.
FireFox would have won if you didn't team it up with Thunderbird. Thunderbird is not anywhere near as useful or user friendly as Outbreak. I'm not sure what kind of drugs the Mozilla foundation is smoking but, without a PIM, Thunderbird is useless for your average office computer user.
Sunbird is going nowhere and hasn't advanced for awhile. Until somebody cares about that project, I suggest people refrain from promoting Thunderbird for the masses.
Everyone that gets introduced to Firefox likes it. Bringing Thunderbird is like hanging out with a stinky person: a guaranteed way to not make friends and not influence anybody.
You haven't seen the robots walking around? Up until Kerry performance on Monday, I was concerned that Bush might walk his way into a legitimate win. The problem is still there. People exist that like Bush. I can't figure it out and if I could, I'd stop it so spare the personal insult. Your post actually was _idiotic_ because it didn't take reality into account. Of course, if Bush can rig one election, he can rig two. He also hasn't ruled out martial law in the event of a SpanisH October Surprise. Guess what? We can be on the same side and I can tell you that you are missing the bigger picture. Maybe I should have said that instead of calling you an idiot. For that, I apologize.
You're an idiot. I don't like Bush either but, if he wins, he won't win by some conspiracy. It's an inexplicable yet indisputable fact that a dangerous percentage of the country _likes_ Bush just because they want to like their leader.
Perhaps the most important application here is improving terrestrial Aeronautics. NASA seems to have long forgotten the Aeronautics part of their acronym and, as a result, aviation technology continues to be stuck in the 60s.
Paul Allen probably uses Linux. This was his money sponsor the project. If you feel the need to attach any corporation to the money, try his basketball team,the Portland Trailblazers.
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Try "win award you shall."
He did. That's all he said all night. It absolutely closed the door on any remote chance of voting for Bush.
Please think of the children... exactly what the hell are you talking about? Respect them for not serving their customers in the US? Decisions for the Japanese market are mutually exclusive to decisions in the US market. Sharp is either being stupid or bribed by M$ to stay out of the market. Either way, it's anti-consumer.
There are two different issues here:
1. Fair use
2. Stealing music
There's no disagreement on fair use here. If you own a song, you can do whatever you want with it. That's the more important issue at stake.
When music for sale is simply taken, that's stealing.
I'm more concerned about fair use. When you decide it's ok to steal, the record company positions become harder and the government doesn't listen. It's the people taking music without paying for it that are going to destroy fair use.
If you pay for music, you give the more money to work against their customers. If you steal the music, you undermine the legitimate fair use arguments.
Of course fair use is a civil right. You bought the song, you can transfer it to whatever you want. We don't disagree on this point. But you _bought_ the music. Our civil disobedience friend has no intention of doing that. If I'm selling something and somebody takes it for free then that's stealing.
I think it's very important for the fair use advocates to distance themselves from idiots who justify their actions as some pseudo-political philosophy. If we allow their position into the message, fair use will eventually be lost forever.
Corporations won't budge and government won't listen unless the "civil disobedience" crowd knocks it off with the thefts and bs vitriol.
Corporations want to make money and government would rather not have to do anything about anything. Fair use and p2p technology is too important to allow these clowns in the discussion.
Civil disobedience? You spit on everyone that has risked life and limb for actual social problems. The music industry's tactics don't qualify or even logically lead to taking their music as civil disobedience.
Stealing food because the government only gives food to certain groups is a valid trigger for civil disobedience. Stealing music is stupid.
If you want the music industry's garbage, give them their asking price. If you suspect illegal cartel behavior, file a lawsuit. Stealing is not an option.
Chancellor Gorkon, you have a very... theoretical... view of what happened after these hurricanes. In theory, yes, mobile towers are going to be driven in by trucks and corporate America will save the day.
Trees and poles have a very definitive and stubborn way of shutting down civilization when they act in unison. As for your roof comment, I'm tempted to tell you to fsck off because everyone in my neighborhood had severe roof damage. _Still_ has severe roof damage. The subsequent rains utterly destroyed some houses because of the existing roof damage.Further north of here is still in the stone age. Further west of here is back in the Jurassic era.
When the eye of a hurricane blows through your place, give me a call immediately after the winds die down and tell me how safe and wonderful your life is. After all, when corporations are there to protect you, there's nothing to worry about.
I'm not putting any more energy into this post. You deserve -1 Flamebait.
You obviously weren't in the path of any hurricanes this summer. I have a gsm phone and it, along with everybody else, was effectively dead within an hour of constant 120 mph winds. It remained useless for days afterwards. The cell phone network can't deal with disasters.
Brilliant! This is one /. meme that I'll be singing all week. I'm disappointed that the person chose to be AC.
About 750 million cubic hogsheads.
Yes, you are correct that I am using Linux but I also paid the Microsoft tax for xp pro so that's $1500 altogether. Microsoft barely survived the last upgrade cycle because Linux doesn't have suitable voice dictation(crossover doesn't run DragonDictate) to go primetime yet and there's the annoying wireless network setup hassle, lack of (my) printer driver, etc. Only a few issues remain before Linux gets the whole drive.
Back to the Mac. It's a nice machine. I just think it's too expensive and doesn't age well. If OS X went to the x86, I wouldn't switch. Not because of animosity against Apple, but because I'm against the concept of a commercial OS--or at least against the Microsoft vision of it.
Operating systems should be public utilities along with word processing, spreadsheets and email, etc should never be commercial. Think of the roads. We all pay for them through "neighborhood effects"--a capitalist concept. It's for the greater good that they are publicly accessible & maintained and improved. Road technology and software have progressed at the same rate which is to say almost not at all.
Why do we keep falling for the same crap over and over? How much better would Word 2003 be over Word 6(over 10 years ago) if Microsoft didn't break it to sell new versions. The real innovation was multitasking. What would be left for Microsoft if they didn't have a wonderful position as the OS proprietor?
I see Apple as being equally evil. Atleast with Apple, they don't pretend to allow competitors in their core areas. The other good thing about Apple is that if anyone can kill the concept of the Operating System, they can. I just don't think they will. They'll continue to sell hardware at 300% markup and focus on the elitist market.
You haven't shopped for a computer lately, have you?
AMD 64 2800
512MB
256 MB ATI 9600
120 GB SATA HD
Sony DVD burner
Sony DVD player
USb2 (8)
Firewire (2)
Bunch of various cf slots
Venus 12 fan
350 watt 30 amp power supply
Gigabit LAN
24 channel audio
Geez, what else?... completely tricked out in a Lian-Li PC 61 case _with_ no-valid-purpose biohazard case window and case lighting for $850.
Add my 16msec 17in flat panel and it's $1300. I assume your $600 price isn't with the monitor but I thought I'd factor it in anyway.
It runs like a dream. Orders of magnitude superior to the G5.
Now, you won't get this from IBM, Dell or any other retailer because they have to factor warranty and customer service. Like everything else in life, if you know what you're doing, you won't pay out the ass.
So is your figure retail or diy? Most Mac users can't comprehend diy and pay a premium for their ignorance.
Porn, pot are keys to NASA salvation
The intent was to help NASA but with this brave new world of private space industry, I'm sure the ideas can be adopted.
It's funny except that your comment has an historical precedent...
During the French Revolution, the Committee of Public Safety beheaded people that "did not want to be free." Not surprisingly, this interim government of the Jacobin were the first "terrorists."
Terrorism started as a tool of government. Now, everybody can be a terrorist. Yay for the democratization of terror.
I have no doubt that these Indymedia assholes would try a Committee of Public Safety given half a chance.
I use Thunderbird. I like it. I've had resistance on switching people from Outbreak. They know it isn't safe but they won't leave the PIM functions.
I haven't used it in a couple years now. I separated myself from Outbreak PIM dependency by using my cellular phone instead. That argument convinces some... mostly the people that just want a task list and a basic calendar.
Thunderbird gets shot down for something email clients aren't supposed to do. Microsoft has made a powerful association in many minds that email program == personal information manager. Thunderbird does its job perfectly and it's superior to Outbreak. It's just a tough sale.
Firefox, in contrast, is like shooting fish in a barrel. Do you want to stop corporations from automatically installing Spyware? Do you want to stop popup windows? Nobody says no to those questions. I think everybody knows that Internet Explorer has major problems. They just need to hear about an alternative from someone they trust.
Email, specifically personal information management, can be mission critical for people which is why it annoys the fsck to see the Calendar Project in the exact same spot it's been in for years. They might have renamed it Sunbird but it's the same useless program and interferes with Thunderbird adoption.
FireFox would have won if you didn't team it up with Thunderbird. Thunderbird is not anywhere near as useful or user friendly as Outbreak. I'm not sure what kind of drugs the Mozilla foundation is smoking but, without a PIM, Thunderbird is useless for your average office computer user.
Sunbird is going nowhere and hasn't advanced for awhile. Until somebody cares about that project, I suggest people refrain from promoting Thunderbird for the masses.
Everyone that gets introduced to Firefox likes it. Bringing Thunderbird is like hanging out with a stinky person: a guaranteed way to not make friends and not influence anybody.
Glad we could work out our differences. Peace.
You haven't seen the robots walking around? Up until Kerry performance on Monday, I was concerned that Bush might walk his way into a legitimate win. The problem is still there. People exist that like Bush. I can't figure it out and if I could, I'd stop it so spare the personal insult. Your post actually was _idiotic_ because it didn't take reality into account. Of course, if Bush can rig one election, he can rig two. He also hasn't ruled out martial law in the event of a SpanisH October Surprise. Guess what? We can be on the same side and I can tell you that you are missing the bigger picture. Maybe I should have said that instead of calling you an idiot. For that, I apologize.
You're an idiot. I don't like Bush either but, if he wins, he won't win by some conspiracy. It's an inexplicable yet indisputable fact that a dangerous percentage of the country _likes_ Bush just because they want to like their leader.
Now you can declare salespeople to be terrorists.
See? It isn't that bad.
Perhaps the most important application here is improving terrestrial Aeronautics. NASA seems to have long forgotten the Aeronautics part of their acronym and, as a result, aviation technology continues to be stuck in the 60s.
You jest. Who talks about Kitty Hawk?
Paul Allen probably uses Linux. This was his money sponsor the project. If you feel the need to attach any corporation to the money, try his basketball team,the Portland Trailblazers.
I'm sure the chicken and goat population is much lower today. It takes a lot of animal sacrifice to overcome Miami's "virtue." :)
Welcome to the Roughnecks.
We're gonna clean out the systems outlying The Microsoft Family of Trojans one title at a time. Tomorrow we hit XP.
After Fleet glasses the OS, Linux mops up.