Sure, its caused annoyance for quite a few people, but I have lots of software on my computer that annoys me.
If Microsoft, or whoever, puts a feature? in their software that allows remote execution of arbitary code on that system, then, at the very least, they should publish a clear warning on the packaging of the product that states this. In this case, its not a bug thats being exploited, its a published and documented interface.
I see absolutely nothing illegal about using these features, and, since the user of the software doesn't 'own' it anyway, they have only 'licensed' it from Microsoft, doesn't that mean the only one who should be able to 'sue for damages' is Microsoft?
And, as one poster stated earlier, if you leave the keys in the ignition, how can you reasonably expect your car to stay in one place?
I guess i'm one of the 'STUDY programming?' crowd, i don't want to go to school and learn how to do various operations on binary numbers and examine the relative efficiencies of various sorting routines, and the like. Basically, i don't really care.
Perl is a language that I can understand, and that I can use. The idea of manually allocating memory and typing variables just seems stupid to me.
I'm don't consider myself a 'good' coder, hell, i don't even consider myself a 'coder', but Perl is the one language i've come across so far that really lets me do what i want to do without having to think too hard about it. I can solve problems using it, and i can solve them quickly.
I'm primarily a 3D artist who happened to find himself wearing a hat with 'web programmer & sys admin' written on it.
I guess if programming is all you do, then you can afford to get anal about syntactic structures and style, and you can spend hours trying to squeeze out those extraneous clock cycles from your routines.
But when you have a bunch of servers to run, 3 or 4 e-commerce sites to build within the month, a shitload of mac-using designers throwing their hands in the air and screaming 'oh god its not working, fix it now!' and all you really want to do is go home and animate the Linux Penguin or something, well, let me tell you that C/C++ is just not an option.
but as it is, i'm stuck with a warez copy of LW and an overclocked Celeron. The warez copy of Lightwave works perfectly, and my Celeron performs identically to a P2 of the same clock speed.
Of course, there are a lot of people who warez the software, and never actually *use* it.
But creating good artwork with this type of software comes from hard work and talent. Nothing else. Warez never is, was or will be a substitute for the above, and just because i 'borrowed' my tools, doesn't mean i don't know how to use them.
How do you think anybody actually learns to do this stuff?
Magically loaded workstations just fall out of the sky into the laps of 'those that are worthy'?
When the most powerful computer in the world runs on commodity Pentium processors, available under no export restrictions whatsoever.
Sure, it has over 9000 of them, but neither the chips themselves, nor the technology to make interconnects of the required speeds, nor the algorithms to make large-scale distributed applications are under any controls whatsoever.
It makes no sense to make it illegal to buy a Cray mainframe when you can build a computer with similar power from parts that any major PC manufacturer will ship to you no questions asked.
Sure, ASCI Red has lots of custom hardware, but i seriously doubt that the Chinese, Soviets, Indians or any other reasonably developed country in the world are incapable of building or sourcing this type of hardware.
Sure, it's cheaper to buy a pre-built system from a US manufacturer, but if China wants to simulate nuclear explosions, then they'll do it. And theres not much the US Government can do to stop them.
I don't see the problem, they seem to think it's alright to have nukes sitting round in their own back yard, but no-one else gets to play?
Making the PSX-2 illegal to export is just plain ridiculous, if theres sufficient demand in the market, illegal (according to US law) clones will simply be manufactured in Taiwan or Korea for the Chinese market.
Copyright and Patent law? Look at the situation with software in Asia.
Why try and put export controls on technology that is inherently uncontrollable?
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Sure, its caused annoyance for quite a few people, but I have lots of software on my computer that annoys me.
If Microsoft, or whoever, puts a feature? in their software that allows remote execution of arbitary code on that system, then, at the very least, they should publish a clear warning on the packaging of the product that states this. In this case, its not a bug thats being exploited, its a published and documented interface.
I see absolutely nothing illegal about using these features, and, since the user of the software doesn't 'own' it anyway, they have only 'licensed' it from Microsoft, doesn't that mean the only one who should be able to 'sue for damages' is Microsoft?
And, as one poster stated earlier, if you leave the keys in the ignition, how can you reasonably expect your car to stay in one place?
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-Pete
I guess i'm one of the 'STUDY programming?' crowd, i don't want to go to school and learn how to do various operations on binary numbers and examine the relative efficiencies of various sorting routines, and the like. Basically, i don't really care.
Perl is a language that I can understand, and that I can use. The idea of manually allocating memory and typing variables just seems stupid to me.
I'm don't consider myself a 'good' coder, hell, i don't even consider myself a 'coder', but Perl is the one language i've come across so far that really lets me do what i want to do without having to think too hard about it. I can solve problems using it, and i can solve them quickly.
I'm primarily a 3D artist who happened to find himself wearing a hat with 'web programmer & sys admin' written on it.
I guess if programming is all you do, then you can afford to get anal about syntactic structures and style, and you can spend hours trying to squeeze out those extraneous clock cycles from your routines.
But when you have a bunch of servers to run, 3 or 4 e-commerce sites to build within the month, a shitload of mac-using designers throwing their hands in the air and screaming 'oh god its not working, fix it now!' and all you really want to do is go home and animate the Linux Penguin or something, well, let me tell you that C/C++ is just not an option.
And if you say any different, my machine-gun wielding penguin is gonna come get ya!
I don't mean to flame you, your points about the unlikelihood of Maya being open sourced are valid but:
Just because an artist uses a broken warez copy of a piece of software on a Celeron means that he/she can't create cool artwork.
Hell, if i got paid to do this stuff, then i would have no problem buying a loaded SGI box running IRIX + Maya etc.
but check it:
http://www.spunk.co.nz/tux.gif
http://www.spunk.co.nz/ork.jpg
http://www.faultline.gen.nz/dwarf001.jpg
but as it is, i'm stuck with a warez copy of LW and an overclocked Celeron. The warez copy of Lightwave works perfectly, and my Celeron performs identically to a P2 of the same clock speed.
Of course, there are a lot of people who warez the software, and never actually *use* it.
But creating good artwork with this type of software comes from hard work and talent. Nothing else. Warez never is, was or will be a substitute for the above, and just because i 'borrowed' my tools, doesn't mean i don't know how to use them.
How do you think anybody actually learns to do this stuff?
Magically loaded workstations just fall out of the sky into the laps of 'those that are worthy'?
When the most powerful computer in the world runs on commodity Pentium processors, available under no export restrictions whatsoever.
Sure, it has over 9000 of them, but neither the chips themselves, nor the technology to make interconnects of the required speeds, nor the algorithms to make large-scale distributed applications are under any controls whatsoever.
It makes no sense to make it illegal to buy a Cray mainframe when you can build a computer with similar power from parts that any major PC manufacturer will ship to you no questions asked.
Sure, ASCI Red has lots of custom hardware, but i seriously doubt that the Chinese, Soviets, Indians or any other reasonably developed country in the world are incapable of building or sourcing this type of hardware.
Sure, it's cheaper to buy a pre-built system from a US manufacturer, but if China wants to simulate nuclear explosions, then they'll do it. And theres not much the US Government can do to stop them.
I don't see the problem, they seem to think it's alright to have nukes sitting round in their own back yard, but no-one else gets to play?
Making the PSX-2 illegal to export is just plain ridiculous, if theres sufficient demand in the market, illegal (according to US law) clones will simply be manufactured in Taiwan or Korea for the Chinese market.
Copyright and Patent law? Look at the situation with software in Asia.
Why try and put export controls on technology that is inherently uncontrollable?